@MrTheProffessa yes he did .. When did he not? He didnt go off babbling like a fool about god and making himself look pathetic , he spoke with wisdom and spoke in a way they could understand
yes they were hatin, haters gonna hate. its not fair nor is it right that a majority of the population can prevent a small minority of people from getting equal rights. if i love another man and wish to marry him i should have the exact same rights as if i married a women. please tell me how me being gay in anyway hurts you physically or financially?
Thank God for Lou Engle, we need more men and woman who will not compromise in the area of sexual perversion. I'm not saying that we should hate gay people, but I am saying that we should love the things that God loves and hate the things that He hates. We must abolish all sexual perversion if expect God to bless America.
Thank God for Lou Engle, we need more men and women in America who will stand for truth and not compromise in the area of sexual perversion. I'm not saying that we should hate gays, but I am saying that we do need to love the things that God loves and hate the things that He hates. God does not hate gay people, but He does hate the sin. We must abolish all sexual perversion if we expect God to bless America.
I don't think what Lou Engle said about those who voted for prop was "hating" on gay marriage. I BEG TO DIFFER!!!! (watch the documentary call "8: The Mormon Proposition) Those who did vote for Prop 8 CLEARLY had a HATE ON GAYS agenda...
I absolutely respect Lou Engle and what he's doing with The Call, but many times the fired up Spirit Filled Christian is still affected by what he or she has been brought up from... usually that the teaching of homosexuality is WRONG.
I don't think what Lou Engle said about those who voted for prop was "hating" on gay marriage. I BEG TO DIFFER!!!! (watch the documentary call "8: The Mormon Proposition) Those who did vote for Prop 8 CLEARLY had a HATE ON GAYS agenda...
I absolutely respect Lou Engle and what he's doing with The Call, but many times the fired up Spirit Filled Christian is still affected by what he or she has been brought up from... usually that the teaching of homosexuality is WRONG.
I dont think that Lou is against gay people but i think lou is speaking against sexual imorality which in the bible states is a sin outside the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman Jesus loves everybody but hates sin and what it does to people and I know Lou would invite anyone to dinner and talk about the love that Jesus talk so much about not condem you Gods mercy and peace and grace to all
the height of scientific achievement - Get a man to become pregnant with another man, and then abort the baby 2 weeks before its born. thats the type of crap you get from a society who cant put a man on mars yet thinks they know how the universe started.
If some of you knew what kind of man of God Lou Engle was, you would watch some of your comments. Gay marriage is not right end of story. Not being for gay rights has nothing to do with condemnation it has to do with God's holy word end of story.
If some of you knew what kind of man of God Lou Engle was, you would watch some of your comments. Gay marriage is not right end of story. Not being for gay rights has nothing to do with condemnation it has to do with God's holy word end of story.
@chadhorn - here is the height of scientific achievement - get a man pregnant with another man, and then abort the baby while its in the fathers womb. thats the kind of crap you get from a godless society.
@chadhorn Jesus has appeared to me before and ive been called Israel by Him. just because you dont know God doesnt mean everyone on earth is in your shoes. peace.
I love Lou Engle he is such a man of God, filled with God's Holy Spirit. Lol "union" Right Molly that the def. has been changed for marriage, people want to do their own thing and not follow the Holy God and that is sad...
Molly clearly won this debate. Lou keeps weakly quoting "the word of God" which was of course written by men. And for all you sheeple who want to use the "holy spirit" excuse, please keep your fiction to yourself.
this "ideaI" is so awful and wrong there is no need to argue about it...ppl argue their ideals all the time and don't care about ne1 else's opininion...scientifically speaking homosexuality does not work...society/civilization cannot be sustained w/ 2 persons of the same sex...it takes opposites = 1 female and 1 male PERIOD, say wut u want but the answers are already in the bible!
@chewbaccaisderka007 You don't know the first thing about science, if you did you would know there are documented cases of homosexuality in up to 1500 species.
God bless you Lou keep fighting the Great fight of faith...history repeats itself just like in Sodom & Gomorrah...the flesh NEVER learns...Lou is a man of God and please do not EVER compare him with hitler...he IS a man of GOD!
Lou Engle's idea of a proper American society is repulsive. He acts as if he is okay with gay people as long as they don't try to get married but look at his sermons. He actually encourages homosexuals to stay in the closet and "let the Bible kill them" rather than just accept themselves for who they are.
Lou Engle can go fuck himself. Crocodrile tears from an international criminal. This criminal worked in Uganda to pass the kill all gays bill. Engle should be put in a trial at an international court for trying to start a genocide.
Lou Engle, even his style of speaking, is not unlike Hitler. He is a most dangerous man. It is alarming that news organizations are giving him air time. Haven't they studied into his beliefs and teachings. There would be extermination of homosexuals. Other targeted groups would follow. Whenever the church has gained control of the state, intolerance and persecution have been the sure result. His talk of religious liberty is a cover - he would bring bloodshed and genocide without any doubt.
ein abartiger mensch, jeder guter christ sollte dieses schwein jagen, wegen solchen deppen wird religion in wahn gezogen, er ist nichts anderes als ein nazi, ein dummer demagoge, aber naja gibt ja genug jenseits des teiches
If you wanna ban gay marriage, fine, go ahead. But on the way, make sure you outlaw adultery and divorce - the real threats to straight marriag. Larry King getting married 8 times, Britney spears annulling her marriage in 3 days and teenagers getting pregnant at the age of 13 have nothing to do with gay people... Straight folks need to fix their problems first... only then can they get onto their moral high horses and pontificate on how immoral the gays are...
@electricguitarplayr Love is love and is selfless by its nature. Hatred is hatred even if it's called Christian. People like you lead others to suicide. You are damned and deserve to burn in hell.
@electricguitarplayr The bible also says for you to stone your children if they disrespect you, but I don't see anybody endorsing that. It also guidelines how to own a slave. This society obviously picks and chooses to begin with, but here we put our foot down between what consenting adults do with each other? THIS is important? Your book is obviously flawed.
@Poeticnuisance Slavery in Rome was not race based like it was in the south. Slaves in Rome could buy their freedom and most people voluntarily became slaves to pay off debts. And since Jesus died on the cross shed His blood for our sins and rose from the dead the Old Testament requirement to stone children is not needed now. Jesus fulfilled the laws requirements. Both Old and New Testaments condemn homosexuality.
@electricguitarplayr Fine. If you want to use that apology, the new testament also condemns lying, hypocrisy, murder, adultery, etc... And yet we look the other way when our favorite politicians and/or evangelists are guilty of these things, while they start wars and breed domestic hatred and violence. But homosexuals? Oh no... we need to take special care that they are dealt with. After all, faggotry causes hurricanes and earthquakes and terrorist attacks. We can't have that, can we?
@electricguitarplayr I'm sorry, but Jesus didn't come to set up a red white and blue army to bar people from sinning or thinking or... whatever else this "movement" is trying to accomplish. If you want to believe that something is a sin, that is your right. But it is not your right to mandate something based on your religion, any more than it would be the right of Islam to decree I was the property of somebody else. If this changes, then free society will cease to function.
@Poeticnuisance That is an old testament law. When Jesus died on the cross, not only did he break the bondage of sin, but he created a new covenenant. He fullfilled the law. This is why Christians don't have to sacrifice an animal at that alter for their sins. Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. Those laws are no longer in affect. You obviously don't know what my book says.
@electricguitarplayr - stop quoting banalities from the Old testament. There is not a single verse in the New Testament that proscribes homosexuality. And it still wouldn't matter... coz America's a SECULAR country...the bible's views are irrelevant when it comes to matters of public policy...
@pondy107 Romans 1:27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. The New Testament does condemns homosexuality . And there is no historical evidence that America is a secular country. The founders were mostly Christian men.
@electricguitarplayr - I was wrong. I accept... The New Testament does in fact allude to homosexual behavior... I guess I should've said JESUS NEVER CONDEMNED HOMOSEXUALITY... The first and fourteenth Amendment are implicit in their support for secularism and Thomas Jefferson, one of the Founding Fathers of Democracy in the United States harped on the importance of the separation of Church and State and has ever since immortalized the phrase...
@electricguitarplayr - And I still stand by what I said..."the bible's views are irrelevant when it comes to matters of public policy..." Coz if we were to refer to the Bible while deciding on matters of morality, 80 - 90% of our women will have to be stoned to death for not remaining virgins till they get married and the rest of them will have to be condemned for wearing clothes with 2 fabrics...All our men will have to be condemned to die for their sins of lust, greed, sloth or adultery...
@pondy107 All those things were written in the Old Testament. Jesus fulfilled the requirement that women be stoned and men die. Now that Jesus paid the price for our sins all you need to do is ask Him to forgive you and make Him Lord of your life and He will save you.
@electricguitarplayr - If you wanna ban gay marriage, fine, go ahead. But on the way, make sure you outlaw adultery and divorce - the real threats to straight marriag. Larry King getting married 8 times, Britney spears annulling her marriage in 3 days and teenagers getting pregnant at the age of 13 have nothing to do with gay people... Straight folks need to fix their problems first... only then can they get onto their moral high horses and pontificate on how immoral the gays are...
@electricguitarplayr - So... by your warped logic... I guess gay people can also go out n screw around, do drugs, get stoned, drunk or even married and then just go to church on Sundays n say a lil' prayer and the good lord will forgive them ??? My this is neat !!! And I guess you conveniently chose to ignore my repudiation of your "America is a Christian Nation" theory...
Everyone send your kids to be raped by Lou Engle and his gay pedophile friends (The Call DC 2000 Board of Directors) - being raped by these guys in childhood is brutally cruel - Lou Engle's organization is nothing but a terrorist organized crime cartel hiding in plain sight.
Funny thing,.. the HIGHEST rate of divorce and child abuse is in the Bible Belt states of Texas and Oklahoma ... the LOWEST rate of divorce is .. you guessed it, Massachusetts; the first state to legalize gay marriage People like Lou Engle don't have a leg to stand on. Increasingly people are seeing the Fundamentalist/Evangelical movement for what it is.
@LyinOfJudah - Dude... if you get angry... they've achieved their goal... don't give them the satisfaction of having pissed you off... love you for your pro - gay views...
Decreased loneliness, isolation and mental illness.
Longer life-spans.
Decreased drug and alcohol dependence.
Read The spirit Level: How more equal societies benefit EVERYONE. The facts are indisputable. And the USA is fast becoming the least developed country in the developed world, socially.
On the other hand, if a Man and Man gets married there is no public value.
BULLSHIT.
You don't even have a cohesive society; just a bunch of miserable individuals grasping for the cash they can get. Americans are such f**king barbarians. No wonder you have the highest inequality, abortion, drug-abuse, rape, obesity, murder, assault, metal-illness and child poverty rates in the developed world. And your life expectancy is lower than Greece's.
Single heterosexual people pay taxes too. There are tax breaks for a MAN and a WOMAN to get married and bring children into this world. I am ALL FOR IT!!! On the other hand, if a Man and Man gets married there is no public value. To that end, no tax benefits should be extended for them to exist as a married couple. I don't care if you give each other a ring simply for the sake of saying 'we are married' but you shouldn't cost the citizens anything more than a single person.
What's wrong with you gay people? Seriously!! I don't care if your gay but I don't want to pay for it as a taxpayer. As a couple you can't reproduce!!! You are of no benefit to society other than simply existing. Save the tax money for the people that CAN bring kids into this world. I've met adopted kids by gay people. They arn't normal!!! Get off your high horse and simply exist without marriage.
@t5998mc What the hell kind of STUPID comment was that .. as a tax payer you don't want to pay for people being gay. Do you have any idea how DUMB that comment is? I agree the tax money should come from you breeders who are apparently a benefit to society .. Gay people should not have to pay taxes.
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God, I fucking hate Lou Engle with his stupid crybaby voice. I can't wait to hear how crybabyish it gets when gay marriage is legalized in all 50 states, and everyone realizes how stupid his phony god is.
I concur. I feel simultaneously incredibly sorry for the guy, obviously mentally and emotionally disabled, and hate, him fucking up so many kids and youth with his sick ideas and techniques.
you know, I believe that homosexality is sin.. it's clear in the bible.. but they can choose whethere they want to sin or not.. why don't we just let them get married?
It is not about taking something away from them but rather standing for rightouesness & holiness. For example. the government is coming to us & asking the people what we want & if we vote for sin then we are having felowship w/ the kingdon of darkness & shaking hands w/ the deciever who distorts everything that God design to be Pure. That is why. That is like asking Paul "why dont we just let the guy who is sleeping w/ his farthers wfie alone.1 cor 5.
@umovelikeiwant2 guess what, why do you say "you're willing to allow the people around you to revel in their sins" ummm ok, how do we not allow them to revel in their sins? please tell me i'm fascinated to know...
christianity is NOT a religion. it's the only truth there is. god exists, and hes alive. if you disagree with him, too bad, its really up to you. free will.
and yes, lou did say that this was his mistake on COMPROMISING with the world's definition AGAINST what jesus said at onething 08. i was very touched. we all make mistakes. truth is, oh jesus is so near
Also, I think Lou was a bit nervous. After all, (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think he'd ever been on a major network before and he was hard pressed for time. The circumstances were detrimental to his rhetorical skills. This had to be the key reason for his slip up on civil unions. As he made clear at Onething just a couple days ago, GAY CIVIL UNIONS ARE NOT OK.
I really wish Lou Engle wouldn't have argued so much from the religeous side of this debate. Alot of people automatically stigmatize anyone who aproaches politics from a religeous standpoint. He could have just pointed out that the definition of marriage has been completely the same throughout the ENTIRE HISTORY OF EARTH!!! It's just wrong to redefine somethng that has had the same meaning for everyone, reguardless of nationality (or, ironically, sexual orientaton) for all of history until now.
Funny how gay marriage supporters seem so vent up with anger and hate towards people who have contrary views...and they accuse people faith as being narrow-minded.
It is quite a simple thing to understand for those opposing gay marriage.
Just keep your noses out of other peoples personal lives. If two people of the same-sex want to make the same commitment that a straight couple, then what is that your personal. Wow two gay men get married. HArdly the end of civilisation is it.
I am only surprised Lou Engle didnt start doing his pigeon impressions during this. A true prophet? Bullshit.
I've had turds coming out of my ass who are more prophetic.
OK Mr. "wenger1972", I think we've had enough of your coarse language. If you actually want to make a point that has any impact upon those who hear it, try to sound like you have some iota of cooth and intelligence.
Funny, how 35,000 people from the CALL. Also, if you are against homosexuality then you are hated by most. The discrimination is against those who stand against it.
The reason a boy and a girl sharing a bathroom is disgusting is simple. The law now says that anyone can "declare" themself a different gender and then use different gender restrooms. Perverts love this law. Oooh...they think, "I'll call myself a girl and go hang out in the girls bathroom and watch little girls go pee. You must be joking me if you honestly don't know. If you were born with a penis...you are a man. If you were born with a vagina you are a woman, case closed.
@WhyAreYouPMSing so do you throw out the 10 commandments or something???? Christians should follow the whole bible dude, regardless, its the same God bro
What is a "man" and what is a "woman"? Is it appearance? Genitals? Chromosomes? Personal feeling? It's a dicey question. If it's appearance then transsexuals could marry the same sex under the law. If it's genitals then where does that leave vasectomy, hysterectomy or gender reassignment patients? If it's chromosomes then where does that leave Klinefelter's syndrome individuals (1 in 500 people have a XXY combination rather than a XX or a XY combination)? Can they marry either gender?
Is that Zuckerberg at 6:10
aboyer1013 1 month ago
Lou Engle was a coward in this video. He pulled a Joel Osteen. He didn't answer any questions. He didn't stand for the Gospel. Pittiful.
MrTheProffessa 1 month ago
@MrTheProffessa yes he did .. When did he not? He didnt go off babbling like a fool about god and making himself look pathetic , he spoke with wisdom and spoke in a way they could understand
unpopulardorkz 3 weeks ago
yes they were hatin, haters gonna hate. its not fair nor is it right that a majority of the population can prevent a small minority of people from getting equal rights. if i love another man and wish to marry him i should have the exact same rights as if i married a women. please tell me how me being gay in anyway hurts you physically or financially?
evb4mvp 2 months ago
Thank God for Lou Engle, we need more men and woman who will not compromise in the area of sexual perversion. I'm not saying that we should hate gay people, but I am saying that we should love the things that God loves and hate the things that He hates. We must abolish all sexual perversion if expect God to bless America.
intercessor34123 2 months ago
Thank God for Lou Engle, we need more men and women in America who will stand for truth and not compromise in the area of sexual perversion. I'm not saying that we should hate gays, but I am saying that we do need to love the things that God loves and hate the things that He hates. God does not hate gay people, but He does hate the sin. We must abolish all sexual perversion if we expect God to bless America.
intercessor34123 2 months ago
This man is fucking stupid
aldopatsy12 4 months ago
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I don't think what Lou Engle said about those who voted for prop was "hating" on gay marriage. I BEG TO DIFFER!!!! (watch the documentary call "8: The Mormon Proposition) Those who did vote for Prop 8 CLEARLY had a HATE ON GAYS agenda...
I absolutely respect Lou Engle and what he's doing with The Call, but many times the fired up Spirit Filled Christian is still affected by what he or she has been brought up from... usually that the teaching of homosexuality is WRONG.
LOVE is the bottom line
crazyazn4christ 4 months ago
I don't think what Lou Engle said about those who voted for prop was "hating" on gay marriage. I BEG TO DIFFER!!!! (watch the documentary call "8: The Mormon Proposition) Those who did vote for Prop 8 CLEARLY had a HATE ON GAYS agenda...
I absolutely respect Lou Engle and what he's doing with The Call, but many times the fired up Spirit Filled Christian is still affected by what he or she has been brought up from... usually that the teaching of homosexuality is WRONG.
LOVE is the bottom line
crazyazn4christ 4 months ago
Ah, I see that the Pharisees are alive an well. Bloody hypocrites.
nerikull 6 months ago
Thank God for you, Lou. The majority of Americans are with you on this. We stand with the words of God. That will never change.
bingococonut 8 months ago
christians- all i ask is to test everything lou engle says. i believe this man is a false prophet
Idontlikecoffeepie 8 months ago
@Idontlikecoffeepie
Name someone you believe is a true prophet. I bet you don't believe anyone is a true one.
pedrochang91 5 months ago
I dont think that Lou is against gay people but i think lou is speaking against sexual imorality which in the bible states is a sin outside the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman Jesus loves everybody but hates sin and what it does to people and I know Lou would invite anyone to dinner and talk about the love that Jesus talk so much about not condem you Gods mercy and peace and grace to all
mahalangboy 9 months ago
this man i anti-gay idiot and a lousy christian
Metasand 9 months ago
the height of scientific achievement - Get a man to become pregnant with another man, and then abort the baby 2 weeks before its born. thats the type of crap you get from a society who cant put a man on mars yet thinks they know how the universe started.
allrza 10 months ago
Lou you are fucking clueless.. There is still no valid reason to ban gay marriage.. Not a single valid argument
richstpete 10 months ago
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Still no valid reason to ban gay marriage.. Not a single valid argument
richstpete 10 months ago
@banger818 Yeah Ok Loser.. Pssst.. news flash banger.. there is no god..
richstpete 10 months ago
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If some of you knew what kind of man of God Lou Engle was, you would watch some of your comments. Gay marriage is not right end of story. Not being for gay rights has nothing to do with condemnation it has to do with God's holy word end of story.
khiett0404 10 months ago
If some of you knew what kind of man of God Lou Engle was, you would watch some of your comments. Gay marriage is not right end of story. Not being for gay rights has nothing to do with condemnation it has to do with God's holy word end of story.
khiett0404 10 months ago
if everyone was gay, humanity would be extinct.
allrza 10 months ago
@allrza Oh brother.. get a clue
richstpete 10 months ago
@richstpete if everyone was gay, humanity would be extinct.
allrza 10 months ago
@allrza Do you have a brain? What if the next generation were all woman or all men?
richstpete 10 months ago
@richstpete i said, "if everyone was gay, humanity would be extinct." how dont i have a brain now?
allrza 10 months ago
@allrza Bad English
Nolancre 6 months ago
I believe she just called us young people stupid.
Nolancre 6 months ago
@allrza two gay people can't have children. it takes straight people to make gay people.
chadhorn 4 months ago
@chadhorn - here is the height of scientific achievement - get a man pregnant with another man, and then abort the baby while its in the fathers womb. thats the kind of crap you get from a godless society.
allrza 4 months ago
@allrza fear of the unknown kills more than any abortions ever will. repeating yourself won't make your point less moot. just sayin'...
chadhorn 3 months ago
@chadhorn Jesus has appeared to me before and ive been called Israel by Him. just because you dont know God doesnt mean everyone on earth is in your shoes. peace.
allrza 3 months ago
I love Lou Engle he is such a man of God, filled with God's Holy Spirit. Lol "union" Right Molly that the def. has been changed for marriage, people want to do their own thing and not follow the Holy God and that is sad...
JesusGodHolySpirit3 11 months ago
LOU ENGLE = GUILTY OF THE MURDER OF DAVID CATO IN UGANDA
LifterWill 1 year ago
Molly clearly won this debate. Lou keeps weakly quoting "the word of God" which was of course written by men. And for all you sheeple who want to use the "holy spirit" excuse, please keep your fiction to yourself.
johnjhuff 1 year ago
Yeah, he's totally gay.. go fuck yourself lou
richstpete 1 year ago
this "ideaI" is so awful and wrong there is no need to argue about it...ppl argue their ideals all the time and don't care about ne1 else's opininion...scientifically speaking homosexuality does not work...society/civilization cannot be sustained w/ 2 persons of the same sex...it takes opposites = 1 female and 1 male PERIOD, say wut u want but the answers are already in the bible!
chewbaccaisderka007 1 year ago
@chewbaccaisderka007 You don't know the first thing about science, if you did you would know there are documented cases of homosexuality in up to 1500 species.
hschan4 1 year ago
God bless you Lou keep fighting the Great fight of faith...history repeats itself just like in Sodom & Gomorrah...the flesh NEVER learns...Lou is a man of God and please do not EVER compare him with hitler...he IS a man of GOD!
chewbaccaisderka007 1 year ago
Lou rocks the house.. The house of God.. Filled with the Holy Spirit..
waytruthlife777 1 year ago
NO, This is a man who serves The Living God. And the Lord is with him.
Khoprayer 1 year ago
Not another bible-thumping homophobe.
thatsmyrail 1 year ago
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NO, This is a man who serves The Living God. And the Lord is with him.
Khoprayer 1 year ago
How much do you wanna bet Lou "wrestles with homosexual urges" - just sayin...there's bit of obsession going on. This man is dangerous.
Mams31383 1 year ago
Lou Engle's idea of a proper American society is repulsive. He acts as if he is okay with gay people as long as they don't try to get married but look at his sermons. He actually encourages homosexuals to stay in the closet and "let the Bible kill them" rather than just accept themselves for who they are.
Skepticktok 1 year ago
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Skepticktok 1 year ago
Lou Engle can go fuck himself. Crocodrile tears from an international criminal. This criminal worked in Uganda to pass the kill all gays bill. Engle should be put in a trial at an international court for trying to start a genocide.
ToquiGambit 1 year ago
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We must and shall Reclaim America For Christ !
Lou Enge for Congress !!!
montsyblackmadonna 1 year ago
GOOOO LOUUUUU!!!!
izzyvulaca 1 year ago 11
i feel as if lou is filled with the holy spirit god bless u lou
scottyi88 1 year ago
@scottyi88 No Scotty he's not. I bet he;d like to be filled with a hard dick and some hot jizz though.
richstpete 1 year ago
Lou Engle, even his style of speaking, is not unlike Hitler. He is a most dangerous man. It is alarming that news organizations are giving him air time. Haven't they studied into his beliefs and teachings. There would be extermination of homosexuals. Other targeted groups would follow. Whenever the church has gained control of the state, intolerance and persecution have been the sure result. His talk of religious liberty is a cover - he would bring bloodshed and genocide without any doubt.
thelastcrisis 1 year ago
ein abartiger mensch, jeder guter christ sollte dieses schwein jagen, wegen solchen deppen wird religion in wahn gezogen, er ist nichts anderes als ein nazi, ein dummer demagoge, aber naja gibt ja genug jenseits des teiches
Schattentanz686 1 year ago
Go Lou!!!!
MtelH 1 year ago
Religion is disgusting.
matcotech 1 year ago
If you wanna ban gay marriage, fine, go ahead. But on the way, make sure you outlaw adultery and divorce - the real threats to straight marriag. Larry King getting married 8 times, Britney spears annulling her marriage in 3 days and teenagers getting pregnant at the age of 13 have nothing to do with gay people... Straight folks need to fix their problems first... only then can they get onto their moral high horses and pontificate on how immoral the gays are...
pondy107 1 year ago
This Prick Engle,is playing at GOD he is an Evil money making freak and needs to be exterminated
richardJG36 1 year ago
Is this the same guy in Jesus Camp? The one who had a boner for the kid Levi?
TheMuziekmann 1 year ago
If the fundies want to hold another anti-gay rally in San Diego, tell him to bring plenty of body bags.
LyinOfJudah 1 year ago
Lou Engle says that gays should let the Bible murder them. Lou Engle is a slithering piece of shit who leads people to suicide.
LyinOfJudah 1 year ago
Life's too short to keep two people in love from getting married.
dsalazar19 1 year ago
@dsalazar19 Theyre love is unholy in the eyes of God. They must repent. Homosexuality in an abomination(Leviticus 18:22)
electricguitarplayr 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr Love is love and is selfless by its nature. Hatred is hatred even if it's called Christian. People like you lead others to suicide. You are damned and deserve to burn in hell.
LyinOfJudah 1 year ago
@LyinOfJudah That is what the Bible says.
electricguitarplayr 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr the United States isn't run according to your bible. If you want to live in a theocracy, move to Iran.
LyinOfJudah 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr The bible also says for you to stone your children if they disrespect you, but I don't see anybody endorsing that. It also guidelines how to own a slave. This society obviously picks and chooses to begin with, but here we put our foot down between what consenting adults do with each other? THIS is important? Your book is obviously flawed.
Poeticnuisance 1 year ago
@Poeticnuisance Slavery in Rome was not race based like it was in the south. Slaves in Rome could buy their freedom and most people voluntarily became slaves to pay off debts. And since Jesus died on the cross shed His blood for our sins and rose from the dead the Old Testament requirement to stone children is not needed now. Jesus fulfilled the laws requirements. Both Old and New Testaments condemn homosexuality.
electricguitarplayr 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr Fine. If you want to use that apology, the new testament also condemns lying, hypocrisy, murder, adultery, etc... And yet we look the other way when our favorite politicians and/or evangelists are guilty of these things, while they start wars and breed domestic hatred and violence. But homosexuals? Oh no... we need to take special care that they are dealt with. After all, faggotry causes hurricanes and earthquakes and terrorist attacks. We can't have that, can we?
Poeticnuisance 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr I'm sorry, but Jesus didn't come to set up a red white and blue army to bar people from sinning or thinking or... whatever else this "movement" is trying to accomplish. If you want to believe that something is a sin, that is your right. But it is not your right to mandate something based on your religion, any more than it would be the right of Islam to decree I was the property of somebody else. If this changes, then free society will cease to function.
Poeticnuisance 1 year ago
@Poeticnuisance That is an old testament law. When Jesus died on the cross, not only did he break the bondage of sin, but he created a new covenenant. He fullfilled the law. This is why Christians don't have to sacrifice an animal at that alter for their sins. Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice. Those laws are no longer in affect. You obviously don't know what my book says.
cuzik37 6 months ago
@electricguitarplayr - stop quoting banalities from the Old testament. There is not a single verse in the New Testament that proscribes homosexuality. And it still wouldn't matter... coz America's a SECULAR country...the bible's views are irrelevant when it comes to matters of public policy...
pondy107 1 year ago
@pondy107 Romans 1:27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. The New Testament does condemns homosexuality . And there is no historical evidence that America is a secular country. The founders were mostly Christian men.
electricguitarplayr 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr - I was wrong. I accept... The New Testament does in fact allude to homosexual behavior... I guess I should've said JESUS NEVER CONDEMNED HOMOSEXUALITY... The first and fourteenth Amendment are implicit in their support for secularism and Thomas Jefferson, one of the Founding Fathers of Democracy in the United States harped on the importance of the separation of Church and State and has ever since immortalized the phrase...
pondy107 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr - And I still stand by what I said..."the bible's views are irrelevant when it comes to matters of public policy..." Coz if we were to refer to the Bible while deciding on matters of morality, 80 - 90% of our women will have to be stoned to death for not remaining virgins till they get married and the rest of them will have to be condemned for wearing clothes with 2 fabrics...All our men will have to be condemned to die for their sins of lust, greed, sloth or adultery...
pondy107 1 year ago
@pondy107 All those things were written in the Old Testament. Jesus fulfilled the requirement that women be stoned and men die. Now that Jesus paid the price for our sins all you need to do is ask Him to forgive you and make Him Lord of your life and He will save you.
electricguitarplayr 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr - If you wanna ban gay marriage, fine, go ahead. But on the way, make sure you outlaw adultery and divorce - the real threats to straight marriag. Larry King getting married 8 times, Britney spears annulling her marriage in 3 days and teenagers getting pregnant at the age of 13 have nothing to do with gay people... Straight folks need to fix their problems first... only then can they get onto their moral high horses and pontificate on how immoral the gays are...
pondy107 1 year ago
@electricguitarplayr - So... by your warped logic... I guess gay people can also go out n screw around, do drugs, get stoned, drunk or even married and then just go to church on Sundays n say a lil' prayer and the good lord will forgive them ??? My this is neat !!! And I guess you conveniently chose to ignore my repudiation of your "America is a Christian Nation" theory...
pondy107 1 year ago
Is it just me, or does Lou Engle sound like he's on the verge of tears every time he talks? Mellow out, dude, it's gonna be alright.
FourthDerivative 1 year ago
Everyone send your kids to be raped by Lou Engle and his gay pedophile friends (The Call DC 2000 Board of Directors) - being raped by these guys in childhood is brutally cruel - Lou Engle's organization is nothing but a terrorist organized crime cartel hiding in plain sight.
bloomingdedalus 1 year ago
Funny thing,.. the HIGHEST rate of divorce and child abuse is in the Bible Belt states of Texas and Oklahoma ... the LOWEST rate of divorce is .. you guessed it, Massachusetts; the first state to legalize gay marriage People like Lou Engle don't have a leg to stand on. Increasingly people are seeing the Fundamentalist/Evangelical movement for what it is.
LifterWill 1 year ago
Thank God for Lou Engle
CauseSimeonCan 1 year ago
@CauseSimeonCan go fuck yourself you inbred fundie piece of shit.
LyinOfJudah 1 year ago
@LyinOfJudah - Dude... if you get angry... they've achieved their goal... don't give them the satisfaction of having pissed you off... love you for your pro - gay views...
pondy107 1 year ago
Lou Engle is going to be an accessory to murder, maybe mass murder, very soon.
steerpike66 1 year ago
Some of the benefits of gay marriage.
Increased happiness and social justice.
A stronger, more cohesive community.
Decreased loneliness, isolation and mental illness.
Longer life-spans.
Decreased drug and alcohol dependence.
Read The spirit Level: How more equal societies benefit EVERYONE. The facts are indisputable. And the USA is fast becoming the least developed country in the developed world, socially.
Everyone is happier and less violent than you.
steerpike66 1 year ago
On the other hand, if a Man and Man gets married there is no public value.
BULLSHIT.
You don't even have a cohesive society; just a bunch of miserable individuals grasping for the cash they can get. Americans are such f**king barbarians. No wonder you have the highest inequality, abortion, drug-abuse, rape, obesity, murder, assault, metal-illness and child poverty rates in the developed world. And your life expectancy is lower than Greece's.
Richest people: socially bottom of the heap.
steerpike66 1 year ago
Single heterosexual people pay taxes too. There are tax breaks for a MAN and a WOMAN to get married and bring children into this world. I am ALL FOR IT!!! On the other hand, if a Man and Man gets married there is no public value. To that end, no tax benefits should be extended for them to exist as a married couple. I don't care if you give each other a ring simply for the sake of saying 'we are married' but you shouldn't cost the citizens anything more than a single person.
t5998mc 1 year ago
How does a tax break COST anyone anything? The gays couple just don't file separately? I thought you people didn't LIKE taxes.
How do gay married couples COST anyone anything? BENEFITS? Nearly all the Major Fortune 5oo companies ALREADY OFFER GAY SPOUSAL BENEFITS.
steerpike66 1 year ago
Lou Engle is going to find himself in serious danger if he precipitates a pogrom against homos in Uganda.
Crimes against humanity will not go unpunished.
steerpike66 1 year ago
What's wrong with you gay people? Seriously!! I don't care if your gay but I don't want to pay for it as a taxpayer. As a couple you can't reproduce!!! You are of no benefit to society other than simply existing. Save the tax money for the people that CAN bring kids into this world. I've met adopted kids by gay people. They arn't normal!!! Get off your high horse and simply exist without marriage.
t5998mc 1 year ago
What about gays who pay taxes? What, you think homos don't pay taxes like every other American. You pay taxes you get the rights :ALL OF THEM.
Reproduction is the only way you can be useful to society? Wow. We'd better euthanise everyone who can't have kids or doesn't want to.
steerpike66 1 year ago
@t5998mc What the hell kind of STUPID comment was that .. as a tax payer you don't want to pay for people being gay. Do you have any idea how DUMB that comment is? I agree the tax money should come from you breeders who are apparently a benefit to society .. Gay people should not have to pay taxes.
LifterWill 1 year ago
Go Lou Engle thanks for standing up Foe God
jptl2 1 year ago
We will stand on truth!! Let the Word of God be our knowledge. In God We Trust!
undertheblood777 1 year ago
Lou Engle wrote that "the most dangerous terrorist is not Islam but God." Google it.
xTHExENEMYx 1 year ago
@xTHExENEMYx -- Would you like to put that statement in its right context (which I've heard already)? That would help when ppl read your replies.
Have a nice day :)
alexlovesbella07 1 year ago
gay marriage isnt right
SuperJboots 2 years ago
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F**k Lou Engle and ignorant people like him.
mikesinner69 2 years ago
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God, I fucking hate Lou Engle with his stupid crybaby voice. I can't wait to hear how crybabyish it gets when gay marriage is legalized in all 50 states, and everyone realizes how stupid his phony god is.
451ianDragonist 2 years ago
I concur. I feel simultaneously incredibly sorry for the guy, obviously mentally and emotionally disabled, and hate, him fucking up so many kids and youth with his sick ideas and techniques.
hyperseauton 2 years ago
I am a Christian and I did not/do not support Prop 8.
An issue majorly missunderstood by Christians. (with a really good heart)
Very sad.
Metaphor987 2 years ago
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Earthtobella12345 2 years ago
Jesus is the Lord!!!!!!!!!!
KENIOsoccer 2 years ago
Thank you captain obvious.
AsianMarck 2 years ago
you know, I believe that homosexality is sin.. it's clear in the bible.. but they can choose whethere they want to sin or not.. why don't we just let them get married?
imaftergodsheart 2 years ago
It is not about taking something away from them but rather standing for rightouesness & holiness. For example. the government is coming to us & asking the people what we want & if we vote for sin then we are having felowship w/ the kingdon of darkness & shaking hands w/ the deciever who distorts everything that God design to be Pure. That is why. That is like asking Paul "why dont we just let the guy who is sleeping w/ his farthers wfie alone.1 cor 5.
jonyrock777 2 years ago
how can you say your after God's heart when you're willing to allow the people around you to revel in their sins???
umovelikeiwant2 2 years ago
@umovelikeiwant2 guess what, why do you say "you're willing to allow the people around you to revel in their sins" ummm ok, how do we not allow them to revel in their sins? please tell me i'm fascinated to know...
NCH509 2 years ago
christianity is NOT a religion. it's the only truth there is. god exists, and hes alive. if you disagree with him, too bad, its really up to you. free will.
and yes, lou did say that this was his mistake on COMPROMISING with the world's definition AGAINST what jesus said at onething 08. i was very touched. we all make mistakes. truth is, oh jesus is so near
sai663xtr3m3 3 years ago
I am not homosexual myself but why caring what other people do consensually? Besides, who has less abortions than homosexual?
RationalEmotive 3 years ago
Also, I think Lou was a bit nervous. After all, (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think he'd ever been on a major network before and he was hard pressed for time. The circumstances were detrimental to his rhetorical skills. This had to be the key reason for his slip up on civil unions. As he made clear at Onething just a couple days ago, GAY CIVIL UNIONS ARE NOT OK.
metaldrummer5000 3 years ago
Go back to Jesus Camp!
RationalEmotive 3 years ago
I really wish Lou Engle wouldn't have argued so much from the religeous side of this debate. Alot of people automatically stigmatize anyone who aproaches politics from a religeous standpoint. He could have just pointed out that the definition of marriage has been completely the same throughout the ENTIRE HISTORY OF EARTH!!! It's just wrong to redefine somethng that has had the same meaning for everyone, reguardless of nationality (or, ironically, sexual orientaton) for all of history until now.
metaldrummer5000 3 years ago
Go Lou!!! I completely agree! Marriage is for a MAN and a WOMAN! That's the way God created it!
WhyAreYouPMSing 3 years ago
Lou Engle admitted at onething08 in Kansas City that he did not truly mean that he is okay with a civil union.
AznHalfBloodz 3 years ago
no wonder this nation is crumbling, judgment is at our door
ug121 3 years ago
Funny how gay marriage supporters seem so vent up with anger and hate towards people who have contrary views...and they accuse people faith as being narrow-minded.
genrevel 3 years ago
It is quite a simple thing to understand for those opposing gay marriage.
Just keep your noses out of other peoples personal lives. If two people of the same-sex want to make the same commitment that a straight couple, then what is that your personal. Wow two gay men get married. HArdly the end of civilisation is it.
I am only surprised Lou Engle didnt start doing his pigeon impressions during this. A true prophet? Bullshit.
I've had turds coming out of my ass who are more prophetic.
wenger1972 3 years ago
OK Mr. "wenger1972", I think we've had enough of your coarse language. If you actually want to make a point that has any impact upon those who hear it, try to sound like you have some iota of cooth and intelligence.
metaldrummer5000 3 years ago
Funny, how 35,000 people from the CALL. Also, if you are against homosexuality then you are hated by most. The discrimination is against those who stand against it.
fiveeagles 3 years ago
Go Lou, surely a prophet is amongst us.
AvshalomTube 3 years ago
Go back to Jesus Camp, dude!
RationalEmotive 3 years ago
The reason a boy and a girl sharing a bathroom is disgusting is simple. The law now says that anyone can "declare" themself a different gender and then use different gender restrooms. Perverts love this law. Oooh...they think, "I'll call myself a girl and go hang out in the girls bathroom and watch little girls go pee. You must be joking me if you honestly don't know. If you were born with a penis...you are a man. If you were born with a vagina you are a woman, case closed.
mirrorlessmusic 3 years ago
Polygamy is in the Bible. Why is Lou opposed to polygamy? Is it just because it's another convenient thing to scare people wtih?
rg0057 3 years ago
because that's Old Test. Bible and we don't follow that because Jesus came to the earth
WhyAreYouPMSing 3 years ago
@WhyAreYouPMSing so do you throw out the 10 commandments or something???? Christians should follow the whole bible dude, regardless, its the same God bro
NCH509 2 years ago
@rg0057 where is polygamy in the bible? its a CULT! you weirdo...
NCH509 2 years ago
a boy sharing a bathrom with a girl?! - oh nooo!!! IT'S THE END OF THE WOOOORLD!!!
7hkey 3 years ago
What is a "man" and what is a "woman"? Is it appearance? Genitals? Chromosomes? Personal feeling? It's a dicey question. If it's appearance then transsexuals could marry the same sex under the law. If it's genitals then where does that leave vasectomy, hysterectomy or gender reassignment patients? If it's chromosomes then where does that leave Klinefelter's syndrome individuals (1 in 500 people have a XXY combination rather than a XX or a XY combination)? Can they marry either gender?
bailorgr 3 years ago
my prop 8 protest is tomorrow :)
webmike720 3 years ago
Thank you for showing how masive the protest where a lot of people didnt even cover this story
depfox 3 years ago