Great stuff! Thank you! Almost as good as the final released song! Everyone will remember the "dit-dit" beautifully described by Baxterbather below was continued by the Rolling Stones in "Under My Thumb".
@HighFlyinByrd it's a beach boys/LA nod. usually either just two notes (a mid-high note and its octave on a different string) or a very spartan chord way up the neck. It still sounds fresh here; "don't worry baby" had just been released. notice it doesn't change except during the part where the end of a stanza would be. this way it implies a dramatic lift without delivering one and re-enforces the back-beat as well, making a folk ballad a swinging bach pop archetype. designed for dancing.
Yes, that is someone from the wrecking crew making that "dit dit" on the Rhythm Guitar. McGuinn was the only Byrd allowed to play an instrument on this song because he had the most experience and was a better musician. And the rest is history.
Insiders told me that Glenn Campbell, Hal Blaine, Carol Kaye & another musician were called in because Columbia execs didn't think the Byrds' playing would sell the track after hearing them playing it. The initial single was the studio musicians, but later pressings were the Byrds, due to Terry's insisting, and the album cut is the Byrds playing. The execs had to admit the studio musicians were no better. (rumor?)
yeah, because both the a and b side of their first single were by the wrecking crew, and those 2 versions are also on their first albums, you only have the 64 demos by the byrds doing it in a studio.
and well, the wrecking crew are legends, they played most of the 60s stuff of the beach boys under brian wilsons leading, they played pet sounds, califronia girls, good vibrations and so on.
Again, from most of the comments below, including those of the person who posted this take, Crosby wasn't there. Do you believe otherwise? If so, why?
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Well, if what most everybody else is saying below is correct (and I b/v that it is) Crosby didn't play on this track. The only Byrd to do so way McGuinn. And btw that don't sound like a mandolin to me. I'll go w/ the six string response.
The 'dit dit' sounds like a mandolin. McGuinn played mandolin (that's where he got the idea of playing the 12-string w/ steel picks), This is live studio and I don't hear rythmn guitar, maybe they have Crosby playing the rudimentary 'dit dit' on a mandolin..?
Okay...I'll try this again. Will someone tell me WHO and/or what instrument is playing the "dit dit" in the background. It is I assume a guitar. Is it the 12 string? Is it McGuinn? Or not? I really don't care who...but for me that dit dit makes the song
Thank you. So lets go one step further for a lazy person like me...who is playing it again? And btw, I really really, really, (did I say REALLY) appreciate you putting this up. I HAVE passed it on:>) Again, that "dit, dit" really "turns me..." back "all those years ago". Thanks again
@HIghFlyinByrd Yes the guitar accent is done by the session guy. Sounds alot like the Beach Boys backing for "Don't Worry Baby", also a wrecking crew job.
@HIghFlyinByrd Yes the guitar accent is done by the session guy. Sounds alot like the Beach Boys backing for "Don't Worry Baby", also a wrecking crew job.
I love it when Melcher says, "ah lets do another. It doesn't feel right" Ah...how sixties!
Someone is striking a chord and there is heavy echo on it. Sounds like a 6 string electric. Very percussive. Today it would be a synth sampler keyboard doing a percussive symphony strike.
It seems like they hit the strings then mute it or it has echo and compression or something. On the downbeats?? The Wrecking Crew did this on other songs?? Don't Worry Baby by the Beach Boys aka Brian Wilson & The Wrecking Crew?? or another BB song??
6 string with echo. You can hear it at 16 seconds. Played by one of the Wrecking Crew on the downbeats. Watch the TV studio videos where they are lip synching the music and you can see Crosby faking it. It is a very stacatto precussive effect. I am not sure how the seesion player is muting it after they hit the chord. I heard this before in possibly a Beach Boy songs because all these groups in CA used the Wrecking Crew. The record company probably insisted on it.
@LTF6161 - I think it's Mr Crosby him self. It sounds as if hes playing high pitch chords very staccato on this take, live hes probably playing them more ordinarily fashion, still very staccato. It would be a humbucker pickup, what brand of guitar is hard to hear, 6 string.
Wow...this runs counter to everything else on this thread...including by the person who put it up. Considering what I have read on this thread, I have serious doubts that Crosby was even there.
Roger (Jim ) McGuinn was the only member of the Byrds who played on this song. The studio moguls wanted to have their own muscians play on this. The same stidio musicians who played on the Beach Boys songs, that's why this sounds a lot like "Don't worry baby". An interesting sideline, a woman played the bass.
Roger (Jim) McGuinn was the only member of the Byrds who played on this recording. The studio moguls had their own contract studio musicians play. The same bunch that did some of the Beach Boys sound tracks, that's why it sounds just like "Don't worry baby". A sideline, a woman played the bass.
Hal Blaine, a good friend of mine, and Wrecking Crew Drummer, on well over 50,000 tunes, including this one, told me the "dit dit" is in fact a guitar. He was the drummer on the session. He cannot for sure remember who played the "dit dit" in the background. It could have been McGuinn....it more probably was Glen Campbell. That's what he recalls.....a session done 45 years ago.
@LTF6161 McGuinn is the only Byrd playing on the track (obviously on the 12-string). Members of the Wrecking Crew backing McGuinn were: Jerry Cole (rhythm guitar), Larry Knechtel (bass), Hal Blaine (drums), and Leon Russell (electric piano). Of course, the vocals were added later.
@LTF6161 McGuinn is the only Byrd playing on the track (obviously on the 12-string). Members of the Wrecking Crew backing McGuinn were: Jerry Cole (rhythm guitar), Larry Knechtel (bass), Hal Blaine (drums), and Leon Russell (electric piano). Of course, the vocals were added later. Jerry's rhythm chops were directly influenced by the Beach Boys' "Don't Worry Baby".
@LTF6161- It was probably the Gretsch guitar that Crosby can be seen playing in many of the clips of the birds. The Ric 12 string played the intro lick as well as all the guitar parts in the left channel on your PC/computer in this video.
@LTF6161 That "dit dit" is played by Jerry Cole. Larry Knechtel is on bass. Hal Blaine is on drums, and Leon Russell is on electric piano. Terry Melcher is producing.
@LTF6161 This is late, but I'd say a six-string guitar playing high chord shapes with palm muting and reverb- apparently this was borrowed form the arrangement of Don't Worry Baby by the Beach Boys as some of the musos had been on both sessions
@LTF6161 I guess the "dit dit" you're referring to (I can hear it sometimes too) is Jerry Cole from the Wrecking Crew who played electric guitar on this recording, "backing" McGuinn.
McGuinn, Jerry Cole and Bill Pittman on guitars, Larry Knechtel on bass, Hal Blaine on drums and Leon Russell on electric piano (which was left out of the final mix). They also played on the flip side " I Knew I'd Want You". Terry Melcher was the producer. The musicians were told to try and capture the feel of the Beach Boys' "Don't Worry Baby".The Byrds played on "Turn Turn Turn." The union sheet for this session (and many others) is on The Wrecking Crew movie website.
I absolutely love the music from the 60's because I was raised on the music from the 50's and 60's. Of all of the songs I have ever heard this has got to be the best song I have ever heard. It always amazes me that Dillon wrote it , but it took these guys to really bring it home. I wish I could sit down and talk with McGuinn sometime about their music.
Such beautiful music, even without vocals. If you search Youtube, you will find many backing tracks of classic 60's songs which sound amazing. Nowhere Man by the Beatles is another great one. What a time to be an artist/musician!
According to Roger. this and Turn, Turn, Turn were the only two songs done with studio musicians... the recording companies weren't taking chances back then...
No, only this song and the B side song of the 45 record "I Knew I'd Want You" were done by Roger and the "studio crew" with Roger, David and Gene singing on both.
Hey, the Beach Boys never were thought of as actual musicians in terms of playing ability. Brian was a genious at songwriting and arranging, and they were all incredible vocalists.
HighFlyinByrd - wow - amazing to hear the track seperate from the voices - many thanks - I wish I had seen this before I did a cover - yeah the Dylan original is packed with great poetry but Producer Terry Melcher made a great decision there. Started The Byrds out with a Number One. Always loved this song since I was a kid. Pop in and see my cover - not a patch on The Byrds - What a sound ! All the Best.
Let me try that again. Is the dit...dit off of another guitar or IS that McGuinn on the 12 string. Again, please forgive my musical ignorance. Just curious.
@LTF6161 Breaking the sound down it sounds like McGuin is doing some finger picking on the 12- which gives it a fuller sound, while Crosby is adding what you call the "dit-dit" up stroke on his Gretsch. Chris Hillman ( Bass ) is doing some sort of two note bass playing octives of 5ths.
Again, according to most of the comments below, including those of HighFlyinByrd who put this track up, Crosby and Hillman were not there. With the exception of McGuin, this was put together by session musicians known as the "Wrecking Crew". Unless you have info to the contrary, I am strongly inclined to believe this.
McGuinn or Wrecking Crew playin', what's the importance. Great 12-string sounds in the style of the 60's over 7 minutes, that's all what counts. Fabulous....
The bass and drum riffs sound like a Beach Boys song. Roger was a pretty accomplished guitarist at that time with his picking style. His timing sounds a just slightly off at times.
Was this recorded at Capitol Records Studio 1 in LA? If they had good management in CA - they would probably be told you are going to use the Wrecking Crew or else. "You want a #1 record?" This is a great historical archive here.
@HIghFlyinByrd I hear a total of 3 electrics, 2 rhythm and Roger's. So Roger is in the left and who is emulating Roger in the right?
So anyone who knows the Wrecking crew, and the history of this song, knows that you have Jerry Cole on guitar for starts. I read it was Jerry Cole who did Rogers part in this, but you claim Roger does play his part. Which channel is Tommy Tedesco ? is Glen in there? Is that Carol Kaye on bass? Who's vocal from engineer both? great post, thanks
Never knew it was the Wrecking Crew. Seems obvious now when I think about it. So is that Carol Kaye and Hal Blaine? Apparently this was their make-or-break single and after it was a hit they were allowed to play on their own records.
I love this kind of thing...........................
where you only hear certain parts of a song without hearing the wholething complete.
I've been doing that alot recently with my CD player. I just plug the headphones ina little bit (not the whole way) and I can get a variety of different sounds (drums and bass only, horns and background vocals only, certain parts that can't be heard AT ALL when everything is put together).
There are two little bands around the business end of your headphone jack. Each band picks up one of the two signals that make up a stereo recording and sends it to one of the two headphones. FYI :)
What's even more cool is with mon stuff like the Byrds music and The Beatles' earlier albums, you can use the left or right channel knob and just hear the vocals or guitars. Kinda cool to hear that stuff. I did that with a lot of my Tom Petty CDs to just hear the guitar lines to play along with it.
Very little bass on the first half of the vid,...the last 3 minutes sound similar to the original backing track...I have got an even more basic backing session of this cut on vinyl
No, alot of people think that the Wrecking Crew played on this song, but only Hal Blaine and Jerry Cole played on this track. The rest of the Wrecking rew did not. The bass player for this sessions name is Larry Knechtel who was a session bassist.
Larry Knechtel was not just a session bassist, he played piano on Bridge Over Troubled Water, and lead guitar on Guitar Man for Bread (who he was also a member of)
No, they play on "Turn, Turn, Turn." It was this song and the b-side which is "I Knew I'd Want You." After that the band said they wanted to play their instruments or cut no record at all. "Turn Turn Turn" was recorded by the band, but it took them something like 50+ takes to get it right.
McGuinn also borrowed guitar lick "dit...dit" off the Beach Boys "Don't worry baby".
That's anther reason it sounds "The Beach boys".
The Byrds could play and did on the next records ,but as it's been said already, the studio wanted product quick. The Byrds were young and new and went along . THE BYRDS ARE GREAT!!!
This is fantastic - when I first heard Mr Tambourine Man and The Byrds back in 1965 it blew me away and it still does today! There is something in that 12 string Rickenbauer "same old sound" that McGuinn developed that is simply heavenly - thankyou to whoever posted this.
Only Roger played on this track. Roger, David and Gene sang on this and the b-side. The musicians, except Roger's 12-string, are all session musician.
This is part of a bootleg compilation called "Journals". Along with McGuinn were Larry Knechtel on bass (who just died), Jerry Cole on rhythm guitar (a la "Don't Worry Baby"), Hal Blaine on drums, and Leon Russell on electric piano (mixed out of the eventual released recording). The Journals compilation features all 22 takes during this session, the 22nd being the take of choice with the tambourine and vocals mixed in later. Numerous other outtakes of other Byrds tunes are featured in Journals.
It is amazing to me the grief the Monkees' got for revealing they used session musicians on their first two albums, while bands like the Byrds and Beach Boys kept quiet and were lauded for their" musicianship. I love the Byrds--be it the Byrds or the Wrecking Crew--but there was a lot of posing goin on in the sixties. Personally, I don't care HOW or WHO make the music as long as I like it.
wonderful stuff, even tho this was studio musicians backing roger and not the byrds it sounds sooooo good. this can easily stand alone without lyrics. Classic, thanks so much
I'm a huge Byrds fan myself, but it shouldn't be too be surprising how good it sounds ... without the Wrecking Crew, it likely would have taken twice as long to sound half as good.
Studio musicians at that time were the cream of the crop, seasoned pros who'd been in the business years longer than the 20-somethings in most bands of the day. They just didn't have "the look."
Studio musicians were like the record company's insurance policy ... they got it done, done right and done quickly.
The reason it sounds like Beach Boys backing tracks is because the same studio musicians played on the Beach Boys recordings. This group of studio players was called The Wrecking Crew. Being a drummer, I only remember that the drummer is Hal Blaine. They also did most of Sonny and Cher's hits (The Beat Goes On, etc.). And The Turtles, too. Probably much more that I don't know about. Go to Hal Blaine's myspace page and he has a list of recordings/artists they did.
I seem to recall coming across an account of this recording session--the session musicians had just done "Don't Worry Baby" the night before for the Beach Boys, and they incoroprated the same shuffle beat and guitar syncopation on this cut...
The Tambourine man in Greenwich Village where Dylan lived was the drug dealer. You heard the tambourine outside, you ran downstairs and scored. A lil ol' NY history.
This is a really cool video. I listen to music constantly and I think I first heard this somewhere around 1965 and of all the music that I have heard this has remained my favorite song. To this day it sometimes gives me chills to listen to it. Dylan wrote some great songs, but he could never pull them off like some of the others, like The Byrds and Hendrix did. Thanks to whoever posted this video.
According to the liner notes of the compilation Never Before, this song and I Knew I'd Want You were recorded Jan. 20 1965 at Columbia Studios. Terry Melcher was the producer, Ray Gerhardt was the engineer.
Roger McGuinn - 12 string guitar
Jerry Cole - rhythm guitar
Larry Knechtel - bass
Leon Russell - electric piano
Hal Blaine - drums
Vocals were dubbed later by McGuinn and David Crosby
Up until now, I've always found the fact that Leon Russell played electric piano on this to be a bit curious, because on the finished product, you can't really hear any electric piano at all. Without the vocals, however, it is slightly audible, mixed at about 3 o'clock when you listen on headphones.
This song always use to confuse me, I mean what is a tambourine man and how can he play a song? It sounded ridiculous, what does he do, shake a tambourine and sing? It was only later that I realized what Dylan meant was he was wasted after partying all night, and a guy was shaking a bunch of coins in his hand for the jukebox, probably in a bar after drinking all night. I mean read the lyrics, that`s exactly what he is talking about. He is wasted after a hard night of partying in the morning.
this is gold..I think this insight will also show what costs them so much money , working in up in the studio, Im sure columbia billed them to death..nowdays if you ever go in, have ya stuff tight before you go,not that THIS could have been avoided given the period of the day back then.
It's really great to hear a bit of the original evolution that went into making one of my all-time favorite songs from childhood. So hard to believe this was more than 40 years ago...almost sounds like it was recorded yesterday!
Whoa, historical recording session. Thanks for posting this.
I was around back then and this song had a huge impact here in California. I was a child, but I remember driving up the Coast highway and my older siblings just going nuts over this song and how pretty it sounded even to me. LOL - of course my parents didn't "dig it."
I thought this was gonna be fake, thx for posting it.
Man the guys making music back then had such skill and a real ear for music. "It feels a little slow" and it did. Man its a shame that amazing musical period from the late 50's to the early 80's couldnt have lasted forever.
I just realized if you sing along with this track, the missing last verse is on the backing track. Try it and all of a sudden you'll realize this is longer
Anybody know why The Byrds and The Turtles ommitted the last verse an Mr. Tambourine and It Ain't Me Babe? For you buffs, Hal Blaine on drums, Terry Melcher behind the tape deck
Great stuff! Thank you! Almost as good as the final released song! Everyone will remember the "dit-dit" beautifully described by Baxterbather below was continued by the Rolling Stones in "Under My Thumb".
tyrntyrntyrn 2 months ago
@HighFlyinByrd it's a beach boys/LA nod. usually either just two notes (a mid-high note and its octave on a different string) or a very spartan chord way up the neck. It still sounds fresh here; "don't worry baby" had just been released. notice it doesn't change except during the part where the end of a stanza would be. this way it implies a dramatic lift without delivering one and re-enforces the back-beat as well, making a folk ballad a swinging bach pop archetype. designed for dancing.
baxterbather 2 months ago
Sounds like barre chords on a Nasville tune six-string
F100ScottyG 4 months ago
lovely stereo
sparkaloid 4 months ago
To whoever posted this, THANK YOU!!!!
pre9120 7 months ago
Touched by God
LTF6161 8 months ago
Nice, good for Karaoke
DeanCarrot 8 months ago
The sound of Byrds meets Donovan 2011:
Michael Moeller - Where the wind blows
Its just wonderfull!
datchanin 8 months ago
one of the best stereo tracks I have heard
sparkaloid 9 months ago
Yes, that is someone from the wrecking crew making that "dit dit" on the Rhythm Guitar. McGuinn was the only Byrd allowed to play an instrument on this song because he had the most experience and was a better musician. And the rest is history.
TheStratman2617 9 months ago
The AFM contract for this session appears in the Song List section of the Wrecking Crew documentary film site (wreckingcrewfilm).
kingsfordish 10 months ago
What was exactly wrong with "Take 20". Sounds damn near perfect to me.
LTF6161 11 months ago
Insiders told me that Glenn Campbell, Hal Blaine, Carol Kaye & another musician were called in because Columbia execs didn't think the Byrds' playing would sell the track after hearing them playing it. The initial single was the studio musicians, but later pressings were the Byrds, due to Terry's insisting, and the album cut is the Byrds playing. The execs had to admit the studio musicians were no better. (rumor?)
hoggjazz 1 year ago
@hoggjazz
"Insiders" doesn't cut it. Name names...or be silent.
LTF6161 11 months ago
@LTF6161
this is roger with the wrecking crew.
it#s pretty well known that the studio and melcher weren't impressed with their instrumental skills and so hired the wrecking cre.
only roger palys here.
OropherThranduil 11 months ago
@hoggjazz
yeah, because both the a and b side of their first single were by the wrecking crew, and those 2 versions are also on their first albums, you only have the 64 demos by the byrds doing it in a studio.
and well, the wrecking crew are legends, they played most of the 60s stuff of the beach boys under brian wilsons leading, they played pet sounds, califronia girls, good vibrations and so on.
OropherThranduil 11 months ago
12 strings guitar...That's how heaven sounded like back in the 60s
matt29ottobre 1 year ago
Well produced music that no longer exists anymore.
drummingface 1 year ago
funny, mcguinn references this video in his lecture at uc berkeley which you can find on you tube, he gives a background on this recording
HE KNOWS YOU EXIST!!!1
scotfreak 1 year ago
Again, from most of the comments below, including those of the person who posted this take, Crosby wasn't there. Do you believe otherwise? If so, why?
LTF6161 1 year ago
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supersondessixties 1 year ago
Great listen...along with McGuinn's 12-string Rickenbacker work, the Wrecking Crew were phenomenal!! I wonder if that's Terry Melcher producing...
pdorn777 1 year ago
@perfuzz
After listening again, it does sound like it may be a six-string played way up high (killing the played stings) by Crosby...
SaddleCat1 1 year ago
@SaddleCat1
Well, if what most everybody else is saying below is correct (and I b/v that it is) Crosby didn't play on this track. The only Byrd to do so way McGuinn. And btw that don't sound like a mandolin to me. I'll go w/ the six string response.
LTF6161 1 year ago
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The 'dit dit' sounds like a mandolin. McGuinn played mandolin (that's where he got the idea of playing the 12-string w/ steel picks), This is live studio and I don't hear rythmn guitar, maybe they have Crosby playing the rudimentary 'dit dit' on a mandolin..?
SaddleCat1 1 year ago
This was recorded January 20, 1965 sometime between 10am-1pm (from contract listed on Roger McGuinn's website).
steve7138 1 year ago
I love the unmistakeable sound of the Rickenbacker
lorenzothebestpisa2 1 year ago
This is mind-blowing... Wow.
DavadSteel 1 year ago
This is great sound for so long ago.
teresababe87 1 year ago
Okay...I'll try this again. Will someone tell me WHO and/or what instrument is playing the "dit dit" in the background. It is I assume a guitar. Is it the 12 string? Is it McGuinn? Or not? I really don't care who...but for me that dit dit makes the song
LTF6161 1 year ago
@LTF6161 6-string guitar, I reckon. Can't say for sure though.
HIghFlyinByrd 1 year ago
@HIghFlyinByrd
Thank you. So lets go one step further for a lazy person like me...who is playing it again? And btw, I really really, really, (did I say REALLY) appreciate you putting this up. I HAVE passed it on:>) Again, that "dit, dit" really "turns me..." back "all those years ago". Thanks again
LTF6161 1 year ago
@HIghFlyinByrd Yes the guitar accent is done by the session guy. Sounds alot like the Beach Boys backing for "Don't Worry Baby", also a wrecking crew job.
powergirl901 1 year ago
@HIghFlyinByrd Yes the guitar accent is done by the session guy. Sounds alot like the Beach Boys backing for "Don't Worry Baby", also a wrecking crew job.
I love it when Melcher says, "ah lets do another. It doesn't feel right" Ah...how sixties!
powergirl901 1 year ago
@HIghFlyinByrd yeah, and what is the chords for that dit dit hahah
jaqua524 6 months ago
@HIghFlyinByrd I think so it´s the 6-string of David Crosby.
mjkleingeld 3 months ago
@HIghFlyinByrd I think so it´s the 6-string of David Crosby.
mjkleingeld 3 months ago
@LTF6161
Someone is striking a chord and there is heavy echo on it. Sounds like a 6 string electric. Very percussive. Today it would be a synth sampler keyboard doing a percussive symphony strike.
It seems like they hit the strings then mute it or it has echo and compression or something. On the downbeats?? The Wrecking Crew did this on other songs?? Don't Worry Baby by the Beach Boys aka Brian Wilson & The Wrecking Crew?? or another BB song??
Franzko787 1 year ago
@Franzko787
Thanks!
LTF6161 1 year ago
@LTF6161
6 string with echo. You can hear it at 16 seconds. Played by one of the Wrecking Crew on the downbeats. Watch the TV studio videos where they are lip synching the music and you can see Crosby faking it. It is a very stacatto precussive effect. I am not sure how the seesion player is muting it after they hit the chord. I heard this before in possibly a Beach Boy songs because all these groups in CA used the Wrecking Crew. The record company probably insisted on it.
Franzko787 1 year ago
@LTF6161 - I think it's Mr Crosby him self. It sounds as if hes playing high pitch chords very staccato on this take, live hes probably playing them more ordinarily fashion, still very staccato. It would be a humbucker pickup, what brand of guitar is hard to hear, 6 string.
perfuzz 1 year ago
@LTF6161 -- Thats Dave Crosby -- he played little else on this track so it seems.
A great job all round by this group . Most inventive and the best arrangement for many a year. They get my Salute. Cheers jt
westjt 1 year ago
@westjt
Wow...this runs counter to everything else on this thread...including by the person who put it up. Considering what I have read on this thread, I have serious doubts that Crosby was even there.
LTF6161 1 year ago
Roger (Jim ) McGuinn was the only member of the Byrds who played on this song. The studio moguls wanted to have their own muscians play on this. The same stidio musicians who played on the Beach Boys songs, that's why this sounds a lot like "Don't worry baby". An interesting sideline, a woman played the bass.
MSSathome 1 year ago
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Roger (Jim) McGuinn was the only member of the Byrds who played on this recording. The studio moguls had their own contract studio musicians play. The same bunch that did some of the Beach Boys sound tracks, that's why it sounds just like "Don't worry baby". A sideline, a woman played the bass.
MSSathome 1 year ago
@LTF6161 that's David Crosby on a Gretsch ... sounds like a bird chirpping.
McGuinn is playing the lead line on the Ric 12
markusm52 1 year ago
@LTF6161
Hal Blaine, a good friend of mine, and Wrecking Crew Drummer, on well over 50,000 tunes, including this one, told me the "dit dit" is in fact a guitar. He was the drummer on the session. He cannot for sure remember who played the "dit dit" in the background. It could have been McGuinn....it more probably was Glen Campbell. That's what he recalls.....a session done 45 years ago.
Hope this helps.
allegradrums 1 year ago
@allegradrums
Thanks!
LTF6161 1 year ago
@allegradrums
Gawd . . . Hal Blaine. I can't imagine being Hal Blaine. The weight of the music history that he's experienced would just crush me.
greenrate 1 year ago
@LTF6161 I'm going to say that it's either some really high notes on a Hammond organ or perhaps some sort of Farfisa, etc
warpcore 1 year ago
@LTF6161 McGuinn is the only Byrd playing on the track (obviously on the 12-string). Members of the Wrecking Crew backing McGuinn were: Jerry Cole (rhythm guitar), Larry Knechtel (bass), Hal Blaine (drums), and Leon Russell (electric piano). Of course, the vocals were added later.
ChicagoKid5 1 year ago
@LTF6161 McGuinn is the only Byrd playing on the track (obviously on the 12-string). Members of the Wrecking Crew backing McGuinn were: Jerry Cole (rhythm guitar), Larry Knechtel (bass), Hal Blaine (drums), and Leon Russell (electric piano). Of course, the vocals were added later. Jerry's rhythm chops were directly influenced by the Beach Boys' "Don't Worry Baby".
ChicagoKid5 1 year ago
@LTF6161- It was probably the Gretsch guitar that Crosby can be seen playing in many of the clips of the birds. The Ric 12 string played the intro lick as well as all the guitar parts in the left channel on your PC/computer in this video.
TurgeonFan77132 1 year ago
@LTF6161 That "dit dit" is played by Jerry Cole. Larry Knechtel is on bass. Hal Blaine is on drums, and Leon Russell is on electric piano. Terry Melcher is producing.
It's most likely a 6 string guitar.
marantz79 1 year ago
@marantz79
Thank you very much! Yours is the best explanation I have received. Again, Thanks!
LTF6161 1 year ago
@LTF6161
It's a Rick 12
sparkledrive01 11 months ago
@sparkledrive01
It seems there is some disagreement here
LTF6161 11 months ago
@LTF6161 This is late, but I'd say a six-string guitar playing high chord shapes with palm muting and reverb- apparently this was borrowed form the arrangement of Don't Worry Baby by the Beach Boys as some of the musos had been on both sessions
gibb253 11 months ago 2
@gibb253
happens to everybody.
nice to know that others also know about the music of the wrecking crew.
OropherThranduil 11 months ago
@LTF6161 sounds like some string tap drum instrument. sounds wierd maybe, check out Hammerd Dulcimer maybe. It must be someting similiar.
AWSKAR 9 months ago
@LTF6161 I guess the "dit dit" you're referring to (I can hear it sometimes too) is Jerry Cole from the Wrecking Crew who played electric guitar on this recording, "backing" McGuinn.
SeymourSycamore 7 months ago
@LTF6161 the dit dit is that classic 60's fender amp reverb set to high..the coils resonated like that.... 6 string rythm
55artsy 6 months ago
@55artsy
Thank you.
LTF6161 4 months ago in playlist LTF6161's Favorited Videos
@LTF6161 the tambourine... ;o)
arabrabish 5 months ago
@LTF6161 chill
jaqua524 4 months ago
Excellent band from the 60's ....Always felt good to hear them !!! 5*****
Twinkle3067 1 year ago
McGuinn, Jerry Cole and Bill Pittman on guitars, Larry Knechtel on bass, Hal Blaine on drums and Leon Russell on electric piano (which was left out of the final mix). They also played on the flip side " I Knew I'd Want You". Terry Melcher was the producer. The musicians were told to try and capture the feel of the Beach Boys' "Don't Worry Baby".The Byrds played on "Turn Turn Turn." The union sheet for this session (and many others) is on The Wrecking Crew movie website.
RP50 1 year ago
McGuinn, Larry Knechtal (bs) Hal Blaine (dr), Leon Russell (elec piano barely there)
Popping guitar is ? I think the studio sheet is on McGuinns site.
12347771 1 year ago
I absolutely love the music from the 60's because I was raised on the music from the 50's and 60's. Of all of the songs I have ever heard this has got to be the best song I have ever heard. It always amazes me that Dillon wrote it , but it took these guys to really bring it home. I wish I could sit down and talk with McGuinn sometime about their music.
pre9120 1 year ago
Such beautiful music, even without vocals. If you search Youtube, you will find many backing tracks of classic 60's songs which sound amazing. Nowhere Man by the Beatles is another great one. What a time to be an artist/musician!
aimtrue45 1 year ago
According to Roger. this and Turn, Turn, Turn were the only two songs done with studio musicians... the recording companies weren't taking chances back then...
mstax 1 year ago
No, only this song and the B side song of the 45 record "I Knew I'd Want You" were done by Roger and the "studio crew" with Roger, David and Gene singing on both.
greenylespaul 1 year ago
Hey, the Beach Boys never were thought of as actual musicians in terms of playing ability. Brian was a genious at songwriting and arranging, and they were all incredible vocalists.
uswmsa41 1 year ago
hal blaine on the drums, carol kaye on the bass, mcguinn on the guitar.
although the only "byrd" to play on this track was mcguinn its still a byrds song as far as i'm concerned
spoilerfixuk 1 year ago
Is this an actual recording before the song was released?
TheImperialElite73 1 year ago
Thanks very much for sharing this.
13loomisst 1 year ago
If only, If only IF ONLY there was a "My Back Pages" outtake like this!!
?HighFlyinByrd, come on now,- (or else I'll reveal you're TRUE identity!)
Hmmm....
tony22745 1 year ago
this song is awesome even without the vocals..i am sooooo loving it
hippie1964 1 year ago
Fabuloso registro musical .Buena calidad y excelente grupo.
quiscor 1 year ago
HighFlyinByrd - wow - amazing to hear the track seperate from the voices - many thanks - I wish I had seen this before I did a cover - yeah the Dylan original is packed with great poetry but Producer Terry Melcher made a great decision there. Started The Byrds out with a Number One. Always loved this song since I was a kid. Pop in and see my cover - not a patch on The Byrds - What a sound ! All the Best.
BransMusicAndVideos 1 year ago
" Didnt feel right"...Felt right to me...
knowallcity 1 year ago
Video no.
Sound in Stereo ist Super.
Peki1946 1 year ago
They heard this in Nam.
happymana 1 year ago
Tommy Tedesco, Hal Blaine, Joe Osborne. I love The Byrds.
Knugabug 2 years ago
Is the "dit...dit" off another guitar or that Mcguin on the 12 string ? Please forgive my ignorance.
LTF6161 2 years ago 6
Let me try that again. Is the dit...dit off of another guitar or IS that McGuinn on the 12 string. Again, please forgive my musical ignorance. Just curious.
LTF6161 2 years ago
I believe that's David Crosby's part.
kevinkmny 1 year ago
@LTF6161 a sitar?
Heavyfanatic 1 year ago
@Heavyfanatic
I think it is a bit early for a sitar, lol! Thanks
LTF6161 1 year ago
@LTF6161 Breaking the sound down it sounds like McGuin is doing some finger picking on the 12- which gives it a fuller sound, while Crosby is adding what you call the "dit-dit" up stroke on his Gretsch. Chris Hillman ( Bass ) is doing some sort of two note bass playing octives of 5ths.
Keyboardman88 1 year ago
@Keyboardman88
Again, according to most of the comments below, including those of HighFlyinByrd who put this track up, Crosby and Hillman were not there. With the exception of McGuin, this was put together by session musicians known as the "Wrecking Crew". Unless you have info to the contrary, I am strongly inclined to believe this.
LTF6161 1 year ago
@LTF6161
it's jerry cole on rythm guitar.
you can notcie that those little dit dits sound EXACTLY like the solo from the beach boys don#t worry baby, on which Jerry also played guitar.
OropherThranduil 11 months ago
@OropherThranduil Hi, sorry I've just repeated what you said-I hadnt scrolled down and seen your comment.
gibb253 11 months ago
@LTF6161 The dit dit is one of two 6 string guitars played by Bill Pittman & Jerry Cole. McGuinn Plays the 12 string throughout the entire song.
scottmacband 9 months ago
@LTF6161 @LTF6161 If you watch the byrds from 1965 performing on TV it looks like Crosby playing a 6 string Gretsch guitar.
digitalflowerpicture 6 months ago
McGuinn or Wrecking Crew playin', what's the importance. Great 12-string sounds in the style of the 60's over 7 minutes, that's all what counts. Fabulous....
WGlitscher 2 years ago
That was awesome! 7 minutes of jingle jangle instead of 2! Thank you!
As someone said, you don't get a more "60s sound" than McGuinn on his guitar!
Best wishes, PPZ
turntyrn 2 years ago 6
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axeblaster1000 2 years ago
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axeblaster1000 2 years ago
Mcguinn only plays the intro-.
So, someone from Wrecking Crew is my guirar hero after all!
Very fab intro though.
And this week I get my 12 string...
Mark Lemon
Village Green Machine
Clarksville1000 2 years ago
No no no no no, McGuinn plays every 12 string you hear in this song—1. And all throughout.
HIghFlyinByrd 2 years ago 3
I did hear or read him say in an interview he was allowed the intro but the other guy played the rest. A bitter pill to swallow I know.
Great playing whoever it is!
Clarksville1000 2 years ago
The bass and drum riffs sound like a Beach Boys song. Roger was a pretty accomplished guitarist at that time with his picking style. His timing sounds a just slightly off at times.
Was this recorded at Capitol Records Studio 1 in LA? If they had good management in CA - they would probably be told you are going to use the Wrecking Crew or else. "You want a #1 record?" This is a great historical archive here.
Franzko787 1 year ago
@HIghFlyinByrd I hear a total of 3 electrics, 2 rhythm and Roger's. So Roger is in the left and who is emulating Roger in the right?
So anyone who knows the Wrecking crew, and the history of this song, knows that you have Jerry Cole on guitar for starts. I read it was Jerry Cole who did Rogers part in this, but you claim Roger does play his part. Which channel is Tommy Tedesco ? is Glen in there? Is that Carol Kaye on bass? Who's vocal from engineer both? great post, thanks
freqazoidiac 1 year ago
@freqazoidiac The engineer on that session is Terry Melcher...Doris Day's son. Awesome session!! Take care....gigmiester101
gigmiester101 1 year ago
@gigmiester101 not the engineer the Producer
genericgeorge 5 months ago
@HIghFlyinByrd must be larry knetel on bass before he made bread with bread but who plays the off beat "chinks" on guitar ?
spacepatrolman 1 year ago
Never knew it was the Wrecking Crew. Seems obvious now when I think about it. So is that Carol Kaye and Hal Blaine? Apparently this was their make-or-break single and after it was a hit they were allowed to play on their own records.
jon1156 2 years ago
Oh, this is a treasure...music then was just magical.
Suzywriter 2 years ago 3
@Suzywriter I agree. I think music today has gone downhill. The music that came from the '60s is great stuff!
kathCT 1 year ago
I'm so glad that they changed the bass line in the intro.
DonJack1776 2 years ago 2
I saved this one after only 0:32 seconds.
I love this kind of thing...........................
where you only hear certain parts of a song without hearing the wholething complete.
I've been doing that alot recently with my CD player. I just plug the headphones ina little bit (not the whole way) and I can get a variety of different sounds (drums and bass only, horns and background vocals only, certain parts that can't be heard AT ALL when everything is put together).
r5t6y12 2 years ago 2
There are two little bands around the business end of your headphone jack. Each band picks up one of the two signals that make up a stereo recording and sends it to one of the two headphones. FYI :)
jon1156 2 years ago
What's even more cool is with mon stuff like the Byrds music and The Beatles' earlier albums, you can use the left or right channel knob and just hear the vocals or guitars. Kinda cool to hear that stuff. I did that with a lot of my Tom Petty CDs to just hear the guitar lines to play along with it.
TurgeonFan77132 2 years ago
This is great stuff! Thanks. The Byrds are the second best; after the Beatles that is.
johnman898 2 years ago
At about 4.45 you can also hear tape print through. fascinating stuff.
PaulNeedsMusic 2 years ago
Very little bass on the first half of the vid,...the last 3 minutes sound similar to the original backing track...I have got an even more basic backing session of this cut on vinyl
wellallright48 2 years ago
Did Carol Kaye play bass guitar on this?
kathCT 2 years ago
No, alot of people think that the Wrecking Crew played on this song, but only Hal Blaine and Jerry Cole played on this track. The rest of the Wrecking rew did not. The bass player for this sessions name is Larry Knechtel who was a session bassist.
fatcatbuzz 2 years ago
Larry Knechtel was not just a session bassist, he played piano on Bridge Over Troubled Water, and lead guitar on Guitar Man for Bread (who he was also a member of)
tonyrivers 2 years ago
I heard McGuinn say that this and "Turn Turn Turn" were the only 'studio musician' tracks the Byrds put out...
mstax 2 years ago
No, they play on "Turn, Turn, Turn." It was this song and the b-side which is "I Knew I'd Want You." After that the band said they wanted to play their instruments or cut no record at all. "Turn Turn Turn" was recorded by the band, but it took them something like 50+ takes to get it right.
fatcatbuzz 2 years ago 2
McGuinn also borrowed guitar lick "dit...dit" off the Beach Boys "Don't worry baby".
That's anther reason it sounds "The Beach boys".
The Byrds could play and did on the next records ,but as it's been said already, the studio wanted product quick. The Byrds were young and new and went along . THE BYRDS ARE GREAT!!!
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UP1310 2 years ago
This is fantastic - when I first heard Mr Tambourine Man and The Byrds back in 1965 it blew me away and it still does today! There is something in that 12 string Rickenbauer "same old sound" that McGuinn developed that is simply heavenly - thankyou to whoever posted this.
UP1310 2 years ago
studio musicians? which players are session people anyway? i'm hearing guitar, drums, bass, etc. now, if there were horns in there...
deemilieu 2 years ago
Only Roger played on this track. Roger, David and Gene sang on this and the b-side. The musicians, except Roger's 12-string, are all session musician.
fatcatbuzz 2 years ago
what an amazing find...who released this anyway? certainly not anyone associated with the byrds.
deemilieu 2 years ago
This is part of a bootleg compilation called "Journals". Along with McGuinn were Larry Knechtel on bass (who just died), Jerry Cole on rhythm guitar (a la "Don't Worry Baby"), Hal Blaine on drums, and Leon Russell on electric piano (mixed out of the eventual released recording). The Journals compilation features all 22 takes during this session, the 22nd being the take of choice with the tambourine and vocals mixed in later. Numerous other outtakes of other Byrds tunes are featured in Journals.
ChicagoKid5 2 years ago
It is amazing to me the grief the Monkees' got for revealing they used session musicians on their first two albums, while bands like the Byrds and Beach Boys kept quiet and were lauded for their" musicianship. I love the Byrds--be it the Byrds or the Wrecking Crew--but there was a lot of posing goin on in the sixties. Personally, I don't care HOW or WHO make the music as long as I like it.
LTF6161 2 years ago
Well it was only on this song that studio musicians were used, and it's b-side, I believe.
And The Beach boys, well, Brian had harps and horns and three different types of guitars going on, so...yeah!
HIghFlyinByrd 2 years ago
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darvon63 2 years ago
wonderful stuff, even tho this was studio musicians backing roger and not the byrds it sounds sooooo good. this can easily stand alone without lyrics. Classic, thanks so much
gqkindofguy 2 years ago
I'm a huge Byrds fan myself, but it shouldn't be too be surprising how good it sounds ... without the Wrecking Crew, it likely would have taken twice as long to sound half as good.
Studio musicians at that time were the cream of the crop, seasoned pros who'd been in the business years longer than the 20-somethings in most bands of the day. They just didn't have "the look."
Studio musicians were like the record company's insurance policy ... they got it done, done right and done quickly.
bellier20 2 years ago 2
Right you are k4nbc.This is what Dylan was referencing when he wrote this classic,after having spent time in the Village.
50marioD 2 years ago
A;most all future Hal of Famers (or should be) ...
Timeless sound - like the Beach Boys backing tracks from mid-60's...
Got any more instrumental tracks?
{Click BB45s for rare Beach Boys video playlist}
BB45s 2 years ago
The reason it sounds like Beach Boys backing tracks is because the same studio musicians played on the Beach Boys recordings. This group of studio players was called The Wrecking Crew. Being a drummer, I only remember that the drummer is Hal Blaine. They also did most of Sonny and Cher's hits (The Beat Goes On, etc.). And The Turtles, too. Probably much more that I don't know about. Go to Hal Blaine's myspace page and he has a list of recordings/artists they did.
jmcphail2 2 years ago
Wonder why they didn't put this kind of stuff on the reissues? They didn't really use a lot of bonus tracks considering how long a CD can be.
SkankBangertonsays 2 years ago
I seem to recall coming across an account of this recording session--the session musicians had just done "Don't Worry Baby" the night before for the Beach Boys, and they incoroprated the same shuffle beat and guitar syncopation on this cut...
namgoz 2 years ago
Wasn't Don't Worry Baby released in 64?
perfuzz 2 years ago
I guess that high-pitched guitarish sound is the rhythm guitar? I've heard tons of versions of this, but this is the only one with that sound in it.
kingmevideos 2 years ago
It's in the album version, except it's in the right side and I guess it's not as quite as noticeable as here
HIghFlyinByrd 2 years ago
@HIghFlyinByrd Ok, HighFlyinByrd...who are you? Have we got an insider here?
Suzywriter 1 year ago
@Suzywriter Negatory ;)
HIghFlyinByrd 1 year ago
The Tambourine man in Greenwich Village where Dylan lived was the drug dealer. You heard the tambourine outside, you ran downstairs and scored. A lil ol' NY history.
k4nbc 2 years ago
This is a really cool video. I listen to music constantly and I think I first heard this somewhere around 1965 and of all the music that I have heard this has remained my favorite song. To this day it sometimes gives me chills to listen to it. Dylan wrote some great songs, but he could never pull them off like some of the others, like The Byrds and Hendrix did. Thanks to whoever posted this video.
pre9120 2 years ago
According to the liner notes of the compilation Never Before, this song and I Knew I'd Want You were recorded Jan. 20 1965 at Columbia Studios. Terry Melcher was the producer, Ray Gerhardt was the engineer.
Roger McGuinn - 12 string guitar
Jerry Cole - rhythm guitar
Larry Knechtel - bass
Leon Russell - electric piano
Hal Blaine - drums
Vocals were dubbed later by McGuinn and David Crosby
russallert 2 years ago 2
no gene clark?!?
mloaks 2 years ago
so byrd's version was released before dylan's?
embran 2 years ago
According to wikipedia the Byrds released it before Dylan.I'm surprised.
listerone 2 years ago
No. :(
dbailey62 2 years ago
Up until now, I've always found the fact that Leon Russell played electric piano on this to be a bit curious, because on the finished product, you can't really hear any electric piano at all. Without the vocals, however, it is slightly audible, mixed at about 3 o'clock when you listen on headphones.
IDLERACER 2 years ago
The Leon Russel piano was mixed out of the final release.
AjaxEddiefan 2 years ago
Este vídeo me empieza a enseñar música.Tengo para rato.Gracias.
ucaradios 2 years ago
This song always use to confuse me, I mean what is a tambourine man and how can he play a song? It sounded ridiculous, what does he do, shake a tambourine and sing? It was only later that I realized what Dylan meant was he was wasted after partying all night, and a guy was shaking a bunch of coins in his hand for the jukebox, probably in a bar after drinking all night. I mean read the lyrics, that`s exactly what he is talking about. He is wasted after a hard night of partying in the morning.
Edhallick 2 years ago
Keep playing that 12 string Roger!
sayhey24man 2 years ago 2
this is gold..I think this insight will also show what costs them so much money , working in up in the studio, Im sure columbia billed them to death..nowdays if you ever go in, have ya stuff tight before you go,not that THIS could have been avoided given the period of the day back then.
MrBruceBarham 2 years ago
I concur, this is GOLD! Thank you so much for posting it.
telstar61 2 years ago
This is solid GOLD to me. I love this song and I love hearing the instrumental development of it!
steveinbelgium 2 years ago
No scratch vocals?
richstout 3 years ago
this is so cool. The day a classic was born!
xxxredmoonatnoonxxx 3 years ago 4
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haha bob dylan wrote it jerk
strawberEfieldz4ever 3 years ago
who said anything about who wrote it
bulldogman59 2 years ago 4
Like a lost world.
tfmuch 3 years ago
It's really great to hear a bit of the original evolution that went into making one of my all-time favorite songs from childhood. So hard to believe this was more than 40 years ago...almost sounds like it was recorded yesterday!
pdorn777 3 years ago 3
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This is video for YouTube!! You ought to let folks know that this ain't a video!!!
desertdwllr 3 years ago
Oh shut the hell up. This is great to hear and see with my mind.
Thanks for posting this great moment in musical history!
frankothemountain 3 years ago 9
Dude, shut the fuck up already. Nobody cares if it isn't a video. They just want to hear the music. You act like a fucking child about it.
watchika 3 years ago 7
This "Dont Worry Baby" version of Mr.Tambourine man really gives the final version a run for it's money. Not sure if it's second best!
knowallcity 3 years ago 4
Whoa, historical recording session. Thanks for posting this.
I was around back then and this song had a huge impact here in California. I was a child, but I remember driving up the Coast highway and my older siblings just going nuts over this song and how pretty it sounded even to me. LOL - of course my parents didn't "dig it."
donnaperrault 3 years ago 3
Amazing the whole track was done at once. Melcher is great too.
skydogz1 3 years ago 5
One of my YOUTUBE "favorites". The whole Don't Worry Baby/Mr Tambourine Man/ sound is etheral.....
knowallcity 3 years ago
I thought this was gonna be fake, thx for posting it.
Man the guys making music back then had such skill and a real ear for music. "It feels a little slow" and it did. Man its a shame that amazing musical period from the late 50's to the early 80's couldnt have lasted forever.
Eric13Bravo 3 years ago 4
Very cool! thnx for the post, sounds great without vocals
dragnetter 3 years ago 2
I just realized if you sing along with this track, the missing last verse is on the backing track. Try it and all of a sudden you'll realize this is longer
rockerdude59 3 years ago
Anybody know why The Byrds and The Turtles ommitted the last verse an Mr. Tambourine and It Ain't Me Babe? For you buffs, Hal Blaine on drums, Terry Melcher behind the tape deck
and for those who don't know, Terry is Doris
Day's son.
rockerdude59 3 years ago