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  • What do peopole think about being more effective to strike with using the roundhouse? Ball of the foot, instep or shin?

    

  • @Scott111188 for me kicking with the instep is the best. Ball of foot can be good because it can travel past the guard, but its risky, also I think its too hard to do with shoes. It seems that after conditioning, the shin becomes really good, but I don't do it and was never thought how to use the shin.. I guess it really depends on the height, distance and if your fighting barefoot.

  • Mawashi geri is not easy at all. :( At least for me.

  • @CRAzY0N31 same for me...but anyone can learn it eventualy.

  • GREAT!

  • Superb demonstration of techniques!

  • que estilo de karate do es?

  • @fernando17c classic shotokan

  • @ismailalmaleki ok gracias, sin duda el mejor estilo de karate do tanto por su filosofía como su estilo tradicional

  • Все понятно, хуле

  • mother of god

  • 3:43 Mawashi Keri at zero distance !!!!!!

  • Fantastic technique!

  • superb demo....

  • mean

  • wtf should i do to have leg work like he has! o.o

  • 3:03 blows my mind

  • @Yamtendo nice one !

  • ossu! sensei

  • Normalmente es con el empeine aunque a la hora de dar pueden ser otras partes pero aqui en forma demostrativa debe de ser con empeine en su forma original

  • @arieldp73 Se golpea con el koshi para que sea penetrante. En torneos se golpea con el empeine para que no sea tan contundente y no lastimar, aunque igual noquean. Dependiendo de la distancia se puede usar la canilla que también es efectiva, pero que no te pongan un codo porque te quebrás.

    Esta mawashi es perfecta, nunca vi una mejor ejecutada. Tengamos en cuenta que estamos viendo a uno de los más grandes maestros actuales. Y que esto es karate.

  • it would be very nice if so could upload a version with english undertitle!! (:

  • @FiKiNiOLKA just learn japanese ;)

  • @FiKiNiOLKA He said to use the ball of your foot rather than kick flat footed. I think that's what he said. I don't speak Japanese lol.

  • foarte tare frate

  • ._. acaso esta patada no es con el empeine?

  • @andrealoztam depende, a zonas blandas es con la punta

  • el mawashi se pega con canilla no con el cochi -.- con cochi te puedes fracturar .. la mejor manera y enrealidad la mas efectiva es pegar el mawashi con la canilla ;) saludos

  • @MegaSwool hahaha hombre, ese es Kagawa sensei, sabe mas karate que todos los que comentamos en youtube juntos xD!, dependiendo de los estilo se pega diferente, pero esta patada es mucho mas efectiva que la otra pero claro mucho mas dificil de realizar..

    De las 2 formas se puede realizar esa patada

  • @tropochito obvio que hay muchas maneras de pegar la patada mawashi ... pero sigo con mi afirmación de que el con canilla es mucho mas efectivo .. yo practico full contact y como te digo esas son las que terminan haciendo ko. ;) salu2 :D

  • great master.oss!!!

  • Nice, but you should keep the guard up before, during and after the kick execution.

  • @Matamune87

    at least you watched the first few seconds dickhead. Do you even know who this man is? maybe you could train with him and show him a thing or two. You know your name matamune could be roughly translated as pussy tits. That cracks me up. Good luck with your guard and sorry for calling you a dickhead.

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  • @mtc7 I have seen all the video and I know who is he, my friend. The mine was only a technical comment and I haven't insult nobody, neither Kagawa nor you ^_^ The mawashigeri technique is good but in a fight you must pull up the guard. But even if the mawashigeri technique was wrong and I said "this is wrong", this don't make me a "dickhead", but a objective person who don't say "WHOOOAAAAHHHH AWESOMEEEEE" only because his name is Kagawa! For example this technique: watch?v=t19qFxQVMKM IS WRONG!

  • @Matamune87 There is nothing wrong with that technique at all. One of the best YokoGeri Kekomi you will see, my friend. Do you know what kick he's doing? understand what he is saying? I'm sure you know Mirco. Please look at his guard when he does his superb mawashigeri. I would argue that it is physically counter productive to hold your arms in any kind of upright guard position and achieve the power that one would be aiming for. However... I concede. You are no dickhead. Best wishes to you.

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  • @mtc7 The mawashi geri is good I said. Yoko geri no. Unfortunately I don't know japanese language and I can't understand what he is saying, but when you throw a kick you have to be sure to control your balance. If your opponent is far and you want hit him with YokoGeri Kekomi, you have to slide the support foot on the ground and not loss balance falling forward like Kagawa Sensei does. If you fall your opponent will hit you with the energy of his strike and the energy of your falling like a...

  • @mtc7 ...frontal collision between two cars. This is why this way to trow a kick is very dangeorus, specially with a kick easy to parry like the jodan yoko geri. If I hit you with a YokoGeri Kekomi like Kagawa does, is sufficient to step back (or parry) and hit me while I'm falling forward to send me in the world of dreams with the half of my teeth on the ground.

  • @Matamune87 im pretty sure hes just showing you the technique and position for the leg and foot. Hes not worry about guard at the moment.

  • @ducati78 yeah, you're right^^

  • it looks so easy...

  • Buen Sensei.

  • people use closed captions into engligh there funny as heck xD

  • my karate kick is way better check it out. search roberto wraith karate kick

  • @robertowraith1993 So I checked out your video. Afterward, I searched "drunk douche bag with no sense of dignity or self respect" and the same video came up! Way to go jackass.

  • @AeroSharkTech you're just piss off cos you cant kick as good as me

  • @robertowraith1993 I can't talk from as ass as good as you either.

  • @AeroSharkTech absolutely brilliant im gonna remember that one, pffft.

  • @robertowraith1993 Glad you approve, because your opinion has value...

  • Insame!!! i want to do that xD!

  • DAMN!!! He hits with his toes!!!

  • u can just look at his belt and u know how good he is...damn he is so incredible...how old is he? i give him like hmm 45 max 50 yrs old

  • @maestrularmelor no kidding, when the guy's wearing a black belt that actually white due to so much use you know he's gotta be one of the best. I myself have practiced Karate in the past, now I practice Aikido; But Kagawa sensei videos make my love for Karate emerge again.

  • HI!

    mi tecnica preferida

  • HI!

  • Great technique. The classic mawashi geri something I struggled with all my life.

  • perfect techniqe..

  • lol. after rising the knee kick happens in one frame of video.

  • sa cest mawashi geri

  • Phenomenal (^_^)

  • He could kick a bear in the mouth.

  • i wouldn't stand it if an old whoever-the-fuck-he-would-be-g­uy kicked my head with his fucking feet without warning. even if he warns i'd be pissed off.

    thumbs up if you demand respect from EVERYONE

  • friggon.

  • Nice video!!

  • When doing a mawashi geri I would personally prefer using the shin because of the larger impact area that it gives you.

  • @WNxWolfinator yeah absolutely, but it depends on what you're trying to do. going by the 'one hit one kill' principle, you use the ball of the foot for breaking power (greater force/area) otherwise if the impact area is large, it'll dissipate the overall force. try breaking more then a couple of boards with a shin instead of the ball of the foot and the difference becomes clear. the effort required to break is less.

  • Hell, I wish I could do that!

  • @GojuBob karate dojo and in time you will

  • perfect technique !

  • @jetset808: he says in the video that you can also use the shin. Obviously it's up to the practitioner to decide, which one is more comfortable for them. When the ball of the foot is used then the roundhouse kick has a bit more a 'thrust' flavour in the end, while the shin is the typically circular motion.

  • Its not his flexibility that is amazing to me it his the strength he has to hold his kicks and kick so high slowly just pure power

  • Wow! Onegai Shimasu! Onegai Shimasu! XD Oh well, I would just as well assume that this is taking place in Japan so I will not be training with him anytime soon :PI guess watching and learning from video will do for now *grin* Agreed. Subtitling would be awesome!

  • @michurusan He was in the UK in the Spring JKA training cores.

  • 0:47 wtf the bag can levitate? :-D

  • @TheMrGunjah i dropped my mouth when i saw that

  • @TheMrGunjah it is hanging on the ceiling, guy is holding to prevent it from swinging

  • @20nineaug94 im jokin´ meeen

    

  • @TheMrGunjah In Japan everything is possible..

  • @Nemke91BG Except beatin' The U.S in a war. ANd We proved that.

  • @Nemke91BG for those who work a lot everything is possible ;-)

  • why not just use the shin?

  • @jetset808 because the traditional method is to do it with the ball of the foot.

  • @Elwing88 cool.. i'm gonna stick with kickboxing then

  • Impresionante!

  • it'll be grat to have it subtitled :D

  • feels great to train under him:D:D

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  • Muss man mit eigenen Augen sehen ! Der Lehrgang in Berlin war super !

  • I couldn't even do that in my dreams.

  • i will try to put a vidio on id like to see your comments it may be some time

  • he's so casual about it like "ya I've got my leg bent in fifteen diferent directions moving at speeds that could exceed a military aircraft at takeoff but still powerful enough to break every bone in your body even if i choose not to its no big deal"so awesome i love martial arts.

  • Can do the same here :D

  • One of the most amazing mawashi geri I've ever seen

  • Beautifully done!

  • my thought s go to japan and surruonding areas

  • thumps up if you were like its a flying bag for just an instant

  • これは鍛錬してなかったらできないけりだね^^;

  • @goozooman If your opponent is taller than you, which in his case would be fairly frequent.

  • thumbs up if you don't know if the man is promoting the newest soap for white clothing.

  • he is f*cking awesome!!!

  • 25 foggets!

  • I'm brown belt and still working on my mawashi geri 'coz I have a problem with my hips. I would so like to do mawashi geri like Kagawa sensei!

  • at mawasi geri, we firstly raise our foot same as we do at mae geri. After dat, we turn it to left(turning our basefoot at 180 degrees)and just after dat we stretch it, punch, we exhale and then come back im kamae... At least dats how we do it on fudokan shotokan...

  • It's really a shame that the highest rated comments on this video simply note Kagawa Sensei's flexibility. While it's a wonderful attribute to admire, superior flexibility can be attained by many martial artists- and no offense to those who are this flexible- I can't even measure up to this kind of stretching- but seriously, this man's technique, as a whole, is truly impeccable.

  • @highkick4 Oss!

  • this kind of kick can break yous fingers so that i prefer yoko tobi geri  or ura mawashi

  • kagawa the best for me

  • Good kick, but people should really practice it going through the target and putting the foot down via your leg rebounding off your opponent's head or guard. Instead people practice and otherwise good kick pulling it which changes the motion you're trying to practice.

  • I can kick high but I need to work for the flexibility, balance, and control that this guy has. Simply amazing.

  • @tman229 Ultra slow kihon training, that's the key

  • @PnutButter1986 Kihon/kata training with weights. I wear 20lb armor, 10lbs on each leg, 5 lbs on each arm, shoulder pads that weigh 10lbs each and boots that weigh another 5lbs each and a 10lb belt. It's gravity training, it's hectic and it gets results. I got that idea from dragonball z except I have no futuristic chamber.

  • @JosephVanbelleghem Not fast I hope? Still I'm intrigue by this idea. What products did you use and where can I check them out?

  • @warriorfire8103 I over exagerated the weight, it sounds more like its knights armor from medieval times lol. My outfit in total weights 30lbs. You can buy ankle weights, belt weights, weighted gloves at sports check. The armor you can buy at opsgear (internet and it ships from america) and buy separate weights to put into the vest. Shoulder pads I'm currently looking for but a backback would work well.

  • @warriorfire8103 you can buy a helmet there as well, just to help with your neck muscles. I believe there is a lot more and if you know how to knit you can customize it more. I'm currently looking for shoulder pads I can cut open then sow back together.

  • Just reminds me how inflexible I am. That's why I find this kick so tough.

  • 全然破壊力、すさまじくないじゃん。全然動いてないし、サンドバ­ッグ持ってる兄ちゃん。

  • Kagawa Sensei in all videos is technically one, if not the best i've ever seen.

  • It is very detail and flexibility...

  • Crazy balance and flexibility!!!!

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  • @roijroij well you shouldnt play with your food anywayz...

  • @SlempiPempi hahaha I failed xD foot xD

  • for me its the hardest kick

  • kagawa-sensei is a friend of nagaki-sensei. and the daughter of nagaki-sensei is a friend of mine :)

  • i have been trying to master this kick fr a long time.my instep is still swollen.its nt easy.

  • i thougth that it wasnt with the ball of the foot

  • @Lpfan374 There are different types of mawashi geri kick's, and this is one of them.

  • Wow, really great flexibility. 

  • 足の甲じゃなくて爪先で蹴るのか。やられたら死にそうだなあ

  • この人、最初弱そうに見えたけどよく見るとメチャクチャ強そう!­

  • yeaaa i like it ;)

  • id rather use my shin in mawashi geri 

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  • Damn thats and old school shotokan round kick. Cant get anymore old school than that! haha

  • why would I wanna kick like this?

  • @monkfg The smaller and harder area will make a stronger impact (the footpad) and thus it is deadlier. It's actually kind of logical :)

    //mmacritic

  • @monkfg If you've never kicked with this portion of your foot while doing a Mawashi Geri, start by using a soft target and hip-level kicks. @1:10 he even says to "take caution" when striking with this portion of the foot. Another part of the technique to take special note of is the pivioting of the base foot. If you don't pivot and you throw a strong kick, you have a good chance of dislocating your knee.

  • @monkfg Maybe for example because you could kick around the opponent's guard to the ear region easily? ...

  • With this part of the leg it hurts like shit.

    We don't do that in batlles well because.. It's too dangerous XD

  • awesome flexibility!

  • @MrAtteTanskanen It isn't just his flexibility, it is his leg control and balance which are really impressive. That guy is a master.

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  • @MrAtteTanskanen this guy is flexible but i have seen betters then this one

  • really insane flexibility

  • @aoshi3000 you want flexability look up shin chul kang.

  • i watch alot of the jka instructors and am so impressed with the level of flexiability ! its something 2 b v jealous of am a 3rd dan with the kugb and always envy they muscle control and flexiablity alot of the top instructors show

  • amazing! wsaniale kopie!

  • I wish I could kick like him :D amazing. standing chest to chest and kicking him in the head with MAWASHI GERI and with superb control.. it's just amazing :)

  • you can do the MAWASHI GERI in both ways. with the top of your foot (like when kicking a football) is used mostly since it's more gentle to the opponent and it's easier to hit the target. but if you really have to stop the attack and take the opponent out you use the bottom of your toes like in MAE GERI and hit him in the kidneys. but we cant do that in training coz we dont want to hurt our karateka friends do we?

  • Kagawa, a pure legend !

  • This is good for kickboxers too :D I was in a short kickboxing -beginner's class and it was very similar to karate (2 years of YuiShinKai-style, it's a pretty rare style).

  • Very nice, Kagawa Sensei has amazing technique and power...

  • Dam, someone translate plz

  • It typical shotokan way of doing it. The foot stops at the face, there is no circular motion. It really not practical in a real life situation when you want hurt someone. Energy should keep going through the head so its transfered on impact... I recommend Bas Rutten video about leg kicks...he knows his bussiness...

  • A real Karateka don't want to hurt anyone.

    Keep watching Bas Rutten videos and forget karate

  • @laracolmenero thats bull and you know it, I know tradition is important in karate and I respect that, I trained karate for 8 years so I know what I'm talking about, but even in self defense you need to disable your opponent and you inevitably have to hurt him and this is not the best way to do it. I'm not saying Bas Rutten is all knowing or that I am, but he is a good example cause I'm sure he has more real life fighting experience. than this guy, with all do respect to him, of course.

  • @belgradebobcat916 Where you are wrong is is that in Shotokan all the power is concentrated on the inner moment of the impact, not all the way, otherwise you lose power. If the foot stops 1 inch further, the head literally explodes. Moreover, when hitting life points you don't need so much power to knock someone down.

  • @whereischarly I respectfully disagree.

  • @belgradebobcat916 You misunderstand the principles of Shotokan completely. The idea of this kick done this way is to learn follow through as necessary. Whether you follow through to the ground on other side is irrelevant, energy is transferred by the time you reach the other side of body part. With this method you are prepared for a flurry of follow-up techniques. Follow-through kick leaves you vulnerable for too long. That is when I have nailed people, repeatedly! They are too slow.

  • @torro454 Let me correct the last statement in my bottom post: A better way of stating it would be to say the technique over comits you, thereby it takes longer, leaving you volnerable. Best Regards!

  • @torro454 Yeah but the idea is not to throw this kick unless you know it's gonna hit. That's what mae geri and other "fast" moves are for. You will NEVER throw this kick as your opening move. That's just stupid. Hit them twice in the face with some punches then follow up with this coming straight at their ribs and you'll drop them for sure (maybe even kill).

  • @mauiboynokaoi  you are so ignorant , this is perfection .

  • @ELLEWOO Isn't that what I just said? Go back and read that comment over again. The kick is great and it will take a guy out in one shot, but torro was implying that it was "too slow". All I was saying is that speed isn't important if you know you're gonna hit.

  • @mauiboynokaoi I do not understand how you know you are going to hit some one, unless you are sparing someone far less skilled than you. Other than defense, what is the purpose. You could just as easily make a mistake about your opponent’s skill level and miss. So I don't understand what you are trying to say. Best Regards.

  • @mauiboynokaoi @mauiboynokaoi Thanks for your response. True. Mae Geri can be used in many ways however, not just to head like in video. You must shift, otherwise you'll get your head taken off. Yes, I have used that combo many times you described, and had it used on me. My experience is that it is highly dependent on the skill of your opponent on how well it works. But proper timing, and placement, it can be devastating! I am not referring to a follow-through kick however. Regards.

  • @torro454 Mae geri is front snap kick. It's all about speed. It's the equivalent of a jab with your leg. Mawashi geri is a large-arc "roundhouse" kick the equivalent of a boxer's right hook. Just as in boxing, they both have their uses; the jab to set up a stronger hit/hit them as they're coming at you and the right hook to take them out when they're off balance and can't defend themself just like mae geri and mawashi respectively.

  • @mauiboynokaoi Thanks for the explanation. It's the follow through roundhouse I don't quite understand. The way Kagawa Sensei demonstrates the technique is the way I learned it. I am quite aware of the applications of both techniques. Both are considered snap techniques. What you describe is closer to a rotating thrust, which I don't quite understand the physics, or mechanics of. A Mawashe geri and starts like Mae geri and rotates over at the last moment. Can be quite fast, and powerful.

  • @torro454 We refer to that mawashi as "Tokunaga's mawashi geri" as students under Tokunaga sensei were the only ones to learn it in our style. Everyone else fires the "full mawashi" that is depicted in this video. This is the traditional mawashi and has very little sporting application but can be very effective at snapping knees in a real fight. The only thing about this vid I don't like is that he's kicking for the head.

  • @torro454 @mauiboynokaoi Interesting application, true it is good for knees. In Shotokan Mawashi geri is used during sparing quite effectively, including the head. The Tokunaga's mawash Geri I still don't grasp the physics of it, it seems that you are relying on rotational velocity which would be minimal and limited applicati