We're not suppose to live by the ten commandments .. That's why Jesus died for us is because He knew we would not be abile to fallow them .... We're suppose to live by grace not by the law !!! The law is old news
theres a god, a living one an alpha and the omega. and this fact cant just easily understand by those people, who dont seek god. simply because man dont want to turn against wickedness. peace bye
@abyjrc It's rather wisdom. Agnostics aknowledge the fact that they are not all-knowing and that there are many things about the world they do not know. It is always possible that there are aditional facts that you don't know yet, but that are important to understand how things really are. So agnostics believes are assumptions made on their current knowledge and experience which you believe in until you learn new facts that point out at what things your believes were wrong. It's just smart.
this dude doesn't have any knowledge to argue. I mean you can have a 100% true belief ,but that doesn't mean you can argue it. This guy has been an agnostics for a year! he should put himself still for let's say much longer time before arguing ! i'm not talking about the existence of God am just talking about the way he argued
@TheAJMAL2 If only these Atheists were exposed to Imam Al-Ghazzali's arguments for the existence of God. They should all read Said Nursi's Risale-i-Nur which explains these arguments very well. Also, the idea that cause and effect falls apart at the quantum level isn't entirely true. New evidence shows that there is such thing as reverse causality at the quantum level, but more than that - virtual particles come into and out of existence because of the quantum vacuum (they still have a basis).
@EnjoiningKnowlege More than that though, the proofs developed by the Kalaam scholars does not depend on there being any actual causal powers in matter, or of causality between material events. In fact, this goes to support the idea that all is the Will of Allah, and what we see as "causality" between material events are merely correlations. Finally, what the lady mentioned about not being able to reason about things outside of the universe, this is just old logical positivism which was killed.
All 3 of you individuals have brilliant minds.That being said, God would be proud that you are using your free will and the right to speak on how you feel, Its called Human nature. If your out driving down a road an its foggy out an you cant see, does that mean the road is not there? It's just unfortunate that you guys lack the word faith, And for that you will NOT be punished, But you shall receive NO REWARD. God is Love, Kindness, And Happiness. In order to FIND Him... Just look past the Fog
Listen to you, speaking on you're imaginary friends behalf......but it's only tolerable when children do it.
So we won't be punished?! What a relief! Of course I new that because none of that is R E A L. Can you imagine being judged and punished not for how you live or what you do but for what you BELIEVE?!
Your assertion that we just need to look for god........how do you think most of us got here?!
If you don't know 100% for sure you're not dead, what CAN you be sure of?
That's silly. Death has been defined and what you and I are is NOT dead. If you're not sure you're dead or not, I don't know what to tell you.
And proof of what? Gods? I just told you. They are beings imagined by men. They are storybook characters.
The earth believed to be FLAT is NOT a being. Besides, have you ever heard of the flat earth society? Currently there are people who believe that the earth is FLAT.
what i dont understand is whys it so important to disprove the existance of a god? maybe there is maybe theres not. why not let people believe what they believe, why the notion to force your own beliefs on someone else. When the fact is NOONE Knows for 100% sure, NOONE alive anyway
@Razorokc I know 100% for sure gods don't exist. Neither do any other mythical beings. Why? Because they are a product of the human mind. They are made up stories to explain what was unexplainable at the time the story was first told. And many of these stories are harmful! They're divisive, judgmental and not conducive to harmony among all.
And I don't get why so many, atheists included, exempt the GOD myth from other myths that people claim with absolute certainty don't exist.
@BastEternal thats just it you dont know and cant know 100% , youre not dead. you believe what you believe becuase you were tuaght it or coninced of it, wheres your proof? Just cause you believe something doesnt mean that something is the way you think it is. people believed for years that the earth was flat, they were 100% sure. they were wrong. The only way to be sure of smething is to see it with your eyes, hear it with yor ears and exsperience it for yourself.
Leprechauns don't exist. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
The leprechaun myth was perpetuated by the Irish; Tuatha de Danann. It's folklore. Ancient Greeks believed in Zeus - they made up all sorts of stories to explain thunder, why the sun rose and set, the seasons, etc. Science has discredited Zeus and his gang.
Stop exempting GODS or any other myth from absolute certainty. Science has done a great job discrediting countless superstitions - why is God still being exempt?
If you are making a living out of this arrogance, then I believe you have lost the deal, I bear witness that theirs no god besides Allah and Mohammad is his messenger
You have failed to prove your claim that a personal or non-personal god exists, as one can NOT infer that the laws of nature are proof of the existence of gods. The laws of nature do NOT prove gods exist. The laws of nature need NOT have been created by a designer, NOR must they have embody the intent or purpose of a supernatural willful being. Your logic is flawed.
BTW. Einstein did not believe in gods. Google: Einstein papers sold England
God is an everlasting and eternal, self-existent, omnipresent, united, good, just, omniscient, unchanging, omnipotent, creative, intelligent, personal, and Supreme being. The evidence for such a being is demonstrated in my video “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God.”
Do you believe in god, yet have no evidence to prove your claim? Have you seen the truth that conciousness is the source of all life and matter, yet no one will believe you? Would you like to know how to stop a physicist in his tracks? Well you've come to the right place. The one thing you need to say, to make any physicist STFU and GTFO is......... WHAT ABOUT THE MEASUREMENT PROBLEM BITCH? Yeah, thats right, the measurement problem.
Do you have a measurement problem? What is your argument against (or for) the existence of God. I have arguments to support my claim that a being such as "God" exists. What is your argument?
Religious people ask for proof that god does not exist to atheists? Still they have no proof that he exists. Often I hear the universe could not have started out of nothing. Could then god start out of nothing? Why is it ok when it is god? And not ok when it is the universe? The reply is often. He work in mysterious ways, or we don't know that yet. The last one is the one I like the best. Because it is similar to my opinion. Accept that you don't know something till you learn it. Thats life.
I don't believe everything that people say, Pastor or not. No matter who you are or what title you have, my responsibility is to test what everyone says and find out if its true or not.
It's interesting to me that so many people view Christianity as a means of just getting into Heaven. Is that what it looks like? Does a Christian look like someone who is struggling and striving to get into Heaven?
...then we have been doing a poor job of presenting the truth. I know Christians who could care less if there is a Heaven or not, because thats not what it's about; it's so much more than a reward at the end. There's something deeper inside each of us that cries out to be near to the one who created us. And his desire is to be near to us. It's not just an emotional satisfation, but he can satisfy the depths of our souls. Something that nothing else, no one else, can touch.
@aKat627 but he can satisfy the depths of our souls, Something that nothing else, no one else, can touch.
Not true at all, Love has moe power than he/she does.
And not everbody cries out to be near this so called creator that some ppl seem to cling onto even they though they think he/she is all caring and what not.
@aKat627 That same debate can for God too, just because the Bible says something, does in no way mean it too be true.
And there are ones that want to be near to him/her, but how can someone want to be near him.her if him/her might not be nothing to begin with? i dunno, but i cant do that to somethig imaginary if it is.
@joehardysr Who said it was a he? The Bible? Haven't you heard, The Keys of Enoch is the new bible, combining science and god into one. Order within the next 20 mins and get 2 copies for only $19.99 with free shipping and handling.
Who said it was an it? You? Haven't you heard that sound reasoning is better than empty rhetoric? I present my case for God in “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God.” What is your case?
@joehardysr The Keys of Enoch is my case. God is more of a universal term rather than a title. God is everything, the entire collective conciousness as a whole. We are all co creators. The measurement problem is the fact that atoms only appear when being measured by a conciously aware observer. This means that atoms might not actually be there if we didn't look for them. So maybe the universe is here because concious beings are.
Shakmastershake, does "The Keys of Enoch" make the claims you make? I present my case for God and show how it is consistent with a biblical understanding of God. You may attempt to address my arguments, showing that my conclusions are unsound. But I doubt that any of your attempts would show that I did not prove the existence of a being commonly referred to as "God."
@joehardysr HAHA We are beings of light bro. God is a term to describe all light. Megenta if you will. The material world is the 3rd dimension and we are going to the 5th. The bible oof today is not the original bible, so how do we know its true. The one thing that says it's not true, is that we are supposed to fear god, obey his demands, and if we dont, we go to hell. Hell doesn't even exist, so how would we go to it.
Shakmastershake, you are redefining "God." Good luck to ya!
Why concern yourself with questions such as "What does the original Bible say?," "How do you know what it says?" and "Will hell ever exist?" We are dealing with the existence or nonexistence of God.
Kalam Cosmological Argument
1) Whatever began to exist had a cause.
2) The universe began to exist.
3) Therefore the universe had a cause.
Whatever exists either began to exist or always existed, even God.
@joehardysr Dude, Keys of Enoch, look it up. How about david wilcock, drunvalo melchizadek, team light. God isn't a being, god is everything, we all have a piece of it. We've already proved that the universe is a cycle. At one point, it will collapse on itself, only to re distribute through space. Conciousness was not created by the universe, it was always there. There is no beginning or no end.
Shakmastershake, you are making claims that you do not support.
“We've already proved that the universe is a cycle” (Shakmastershake).
Exactly who has proven that the universe is a cycle? Is this a prevailing view accepted in a particular community? Which community holds this as a prevailing view?
Does everything constitute God or does a piece of everything God?
If “Conciousness was not created by the universe,” but “was always there,” is consciousness material?
@joehardysr How come you don't have evidence? You can't use the bible as evidence, because it has been re interpreted many times over the years. Is the earth 6000 years old. No. The sphinx at Giza is a perfect model of the constellation leo, and it points to where the constellation of our age rises. Leo hasn't risen in that spot for 15000 years. The pyramids are on a 45* angle, and the last time orion was on a 45* angle was 15000 years ago. Oh yeah, dinosaurs, explain that.
@joehardysr The big bang theory is what created the universe, yet it is still a theory. In stephen hawkings new book, he says that universes are created by a wave like effect of 2 universes hitting against eachother, which means that it is a cycle. But, that only works in the 3rd dimension where time governs. Time does not govern 5d. If the bible isn't your evidence, then what is?
@joehardysr In Hawings new book The Grand Design, he states that there is no need for god because we have physics and that physics alone creates the universe. He also states that there is a wave pattern of other universes that flop against eachother creating more universes in a never ending cycle. But that ultimately leads to the same question, who or what created the first universe, if there is a first.
Answers such as "The universe is just there" is not a statement backed by science. They threw out the steady state theory a long time ago. Something must have been special about the first [set of] universe[s] in a multiverse or metaverse. It seems like Hawkings unhjustifiably dismises God.
@joehardysr He does unjustifiably dismiss god. He accidentally disproved what he was trying to prove. I watched the video on your channel, which has some good points. I don't doubt the existance of god at all. I just have a different view on it. I know that all matter is energy condensed to a slow vibrational state which we call the 3rd dimension. Accessing the 5th requires you to activate the pineal gland, which secretes dmt to your brain
So, if a being brought the universe into existence, then we know that being must be timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. Pure energy cannot exist; there is no energy without mass.
Without objects there can be no force, without forces there can be no potential to do work, without the potential to do work there can be no energy. Thus, energy cannot exist without mass and, therefore, pure energy (generated or existing energy without mass, in a natural sense) cannot exist.
@joehardysr Once it is activated, you can secrete DMT at will, bringing you to the higher dimensions. Everything is designed by the mind. It made a system that is so hard to break into or out of, it's just perfect.
Pure energy cannot exist; there is no energy without mass.
Without objects there can be no force, without forces there can be no potential to do work, without the potential to do work there can be no energy. Thus, energy cannot exist without mass and, therefore, pure energy (generated or existing energy without mass, in a natural sense) cannot exist.
This eliminates the existence of an eternal universe and leaves the best known candidate for such a being—God.
Shakmastershake, I am not sure what you mean. This is how I unsderstand God to be:
God is an everlasting and eternal, self-existent, omnipresent, united, good, just, omniscient, unchanging, omnipotent, creative, intelligent, personal, and Supreme being.
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist” (Stephen Hawking, The Grand Design).
My video “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God” shows that self-creation and creation by nothing is impossible. See Section [C] Establishing Causality.
@joehardysr I'm just gunna let you wait and see then. We don't have much of a wait left anyways. The universe is made up of pure energy that comes from pure conciousness. We create the space around us because the universe responds to our thoughts. Thats how the law of attraction works. We are co creators, and god, megenta, all light is just everything in existence, including the higher and highest dimensions.
@joehardysr The Mind is a collective conciousness, which is god. God has always existed as a higher form of conciousness that forms matter energy by thinking. There are much higher dimensions than the one we call reality. I watched the videos on your channel, did you watch any of the pnes I sent you?
"So, did energy create the mind or did the mind create energy (which is part of the mind)?"
From your statement:
"God has always existed as a higher form of conciousness that forms matter energy by thinking."
It seems as if you are conceding that God has created matter and energy. If God did create matter and energy and preceded it then God is immaterial and not energy.
@Shakmaster..We can raise precisely the same objection against the atheists and ask them, "If we follow the chain of causality back, we will ultimately reach the primary cause. Let us say that cause is not God, but matter. Tell us who created primary matter. You who believe in the law of causality, answer us Ws: if matter is the ultimate cause of all things, what is the cause of matter?
You say that the source of all phenomena is matter-energy; what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?"
@1tabligh The highest form of conciousness. I would say, all minds in the universe are connected to one mind, a hive mind. The hive mind would be the creator and our own minds would be co-creators. The hive mind makes the base set of rules and laws whereas our own minds manipulate the materials around us via the law of attraction. I believe the universe to be of an infinite cycle. The big bang came from another universe, a star that sucked in matter until it became a black hole.
@1tabligh The matter from the black hole popped out in a parallel universe to create more stars which turn into more black holes and create more matter in other universes. Either this has gone on for an infinite amount of time because of some sort of collective conciousness, or whatever was the one who decided to create, ultimately sacrificed itself for the universes to be.
Since the chain of causality cannot recede into infinity, they can answer only that matter is an eternal and timeless entity for which no beginning can be posited: matter is non-created, has no beginning or end, and its being arises from within its own nature.
This means that the materialists accept the principle of eternity and non-origination; they believe that all things arose out of eternal matter and that being arises from within the very nature of matter, without any need for a creator
@1tabligh My stance is, everything has always been here because of the existance of the higher demensions, and that what we call the universe which consists of 3 spatial dimentions, is just part of a mathematical equation. We are concious observers experiencing life in 3d through meat suits. The mind is seperate from the body which means it's origin is not of this place we live in.
@Shak..In just the same way that atheist regards matter as eternal, believers in God attribute eternity to God. Belief in an eternal being is then common to materialist and religious philosophers: both groups agree that there is a primary cause, but believers in God regard the primary cause as wise, all-knowing, and possessing the power of decision and will, whereas in the view of the materialists, the primary cause has neither consciousness, intelligence, perception, nor the power of decision.
Thus, the removal of God in no way solves the problem posed by eternal being.
Moreover, matter is the locus for motion and change, and its motion is dynamic and situated within its own essence. Now, essential motion is incompatible with eternity, and matter and essential stability are two mutually exclusive categories that cannot be fused in a single locus.
@1tabligh I am a spiritualist. I believe we are concious observers and co creators. Sub atomicaly, atoms appear when being measured or observed. Follow that rule up to what we see around us means that it is only there because we observe and believe it to be real. The brain cannot tell the difference between experience, memory or imagination. Only the concious observer has the ability to tell the difference. That means our origins are of pure divinity and not of the 3rd demension
@Shakmastershake Eternity means stability and immutability of essence, the impossibility of cessation, but matter/energy is in its essence a compendium of forces and potentialities; it is relativity itself, totally caught up in living and dying.
@joehardysr You may ask what 5d is. It is where you go when you sleep, you just don't remember because of the huge amounts of DMT that your brain releases. After practicing meditation and astral projection, you activate the chakra system enabling a clean flow of energy through your body. Over a period of a few months, you reconnect to your higher selves, there are 14. You can gain access to your Koshick records, and review everything in your past lives. Either I'm right, or all of us be crazy
@joehardysr There are millions of people that astral project, me being one of them. Some of us can remote view locaitons, without have been there in the first place. It works because we are part of a collective conciousness with a single mind, and the material world is a mental projection. It is stored in our brains like a map. Would you like me to forward you to some ascended masters?
@joehardysr When you separate the neutrons in a atom, the remain energetically connected, no matter how far apart they are. So we are all energetically connected with eachother, the planet, the galaxy, the universe, the multiverse and so on. We are all one and we are all god.
@joehardysr Get a copy of the keys of enoch and read it. It explains the existance of god on a scientific and quantum level. I don't need proof to know that the universe is purely made up of conciousness.
Shakmastershake, you need to be able to present a case from the evidence you have encountered. If what you read really helped you should ve able to present a case.
What on earth does it matter how you justify as these atheists do the world is governed by logic? We're not talking about this worldly understanding, we're not by these atheist's very admission. To decide something isn't outside your mind or isn't in motion is to close your mind to atheism, contarary to science I feel. What on earth does it matter when we're talking about how something outside the universe works how your belief within it functions adequately? Absolute rubbish.
So when we get to before the big bang or outside the far reaches of our universe that's when evidence has no bearing on anything...aaaahhhhhhhh ok .. Well god is some might suggest outside those far reaches that by the token of science could exist/will always exist in some form if only the far reaches of our imagination. The difference between our imagination and our truth and our reality and our evidence I think are easily distinguishable even by logic's evidential doctrine.
the caller had a much more pen mind and the people answering were closed mind and especially the women was both ignorant and felt that she had to put people below her and prove their ignorance through rediculous comments.
I am just curious... what is it like to live a life that denies the existance of God? What does it feel like? What does it look like? What does it mean, if there is no God?
I know Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit of Truth and I spend the time to get closer to Him every day. I know what it's like to have Him, so I'm just wondering what it feels like without Him?
@aKat627 I am currently agnostic. When I was younger, I just believed what anybody told me. I used to feel happy that I would go to a better life when I was done with this one. You have to understand that you cannot base your entire life on a book. I now feel more free to enjoy my life to the fullest. If Jesus makes you happy, so be it. As long as you don't harm anyone, it is fine. I like to be a good person, not to please god, but to make myself happy. I feel free without religion.
@aKat627 yes i used to be a christian and im kindof starting to belive that god exist but the only think holding me back is just exactly what wee talking about.. if i were a christian then i couldnt do anything that i like to do because almost everything i do breaks those stupid ass 10 comandments...
@CocoKing238 at the same time in breaking these ten commandments you are basically doing something wrong that u shouldnt be doing at all...so it would be breaking your sense of morals that we all instinctively know which means someone had to install those morals of right and wrong someone who is an infinite being who was always there...thererfore god does exist
Agnostic definition as was defined by T.H. Huxley, the man who coined the term that means one should not profess to a belief in something that cannot be proven.
@TheDannyw429 I am not denying the existence of god as I am agnostic, but I do not believe that that portion of religion is true. When you whole-heartedly believe something, your body will react to that as if it were true. If you hypnotized into thinking you are drowning, you will gasp for air and struggle to move upwards. You could even die, just because your brain believes it. And of course there are a few who just want to look like they are going to heaven. :)
I love astronomy and I'm a christian, but at the end where they start talking about the possibility of other universes and all that stuff about the laws of this universe not applying outside of the big bang so can't assume cause and affect kind of makes me laugh. I could quite easily say that sounds more wild than saying there is a god that made everything. They've never been to this place or seen anything of it. At least through history people claimed to of been in contact with a living god.
@Scott111188 Actually those multiverse scenarios have a mathematical basis, and a lot of quantum hypotheses have been predicted by mathematics only to be confirmed years later by experimentation. Can you say the same is true for your "personal god" hunch? I don't think so.
GOD really is real though, he just has a alcohol problem hes been in AA for the past 765,000 kazillionbagillion years, but he's coming back an i know for a fact cuz he text me so this morning, i tried to text him back but his daytime minutes ran out, he told me to inform the rest of us, that hes waiting for the gas prices to drop , then he will come but he also said it might take a while cuz of his bum knee & gout, {SuUUupERCallifrAGIListIKspikdyalllLyDOShuisSt} the spirit is so strong WHEW!
@SnipersScope55 Actually, your insults aside, I asked about Christianity. I did not ask about any other religion. What? Are you afraid of the words coming out of your mouth? Do you not wish to own your own beliefs?
I'll ask yet again the simple question! Are Atheists Anti-Christian? Don't talk about "all religions". It's a simple question.
@plbuster No, atheism doesn't include antitheism: It's not a requirement for the atheism concept.
However, antitheists are basically anti-christians in the same way they are anti-islam and anti-any-religion-you-can-imagine. Which is a rational position to take, given the track record of religions worldwide.
@SnipersScope55 I did not ask about theism, religion, allah, ghosts, or your particular supernatural beliefs. I asked "Are these people saying that atheists are Anti-Christian?" Are Atheists anti-Christian. Do they seek the suppression, elimination, or destruction of Christianity?
I was able to glean from your comment that Atheists reject Christ.
@SnipersScope55 So, they don't believe in God. Ok. I can figure that out for myself. I asked "Are these people saying that atheists are Anti-Christian?" and "Do they reject Christ?". Rather simple questions, really.
Strong's says what you claim about it being fruit. But it doesn't say ANYTHING about a historical age. The greeks didn't have this concept at the time.
@adam3251: Independently of word you are using, the words are information, and it´s necessary interpret them in own context. In the contrary case, you would need to ask to person who wrote the document to understand what each word mean. Obviously, this would be nonsense. Besides, the translating of ancient manuscripts would be impossible from your viewpoint.
@Leivinn20 Words have meanings, friend. All I want is a standard by which we can judge the meaning of words. It is disingenuous to alter a meaning of a phrase to bolster a theological position.
@adam3251 : Ok, then Aristotle never existed and the Spanish is not a language coming from latin, and the latin language never was used by Romans. You are going need quite lot of evidence for proving your point.
@adam3251: Ok, I understand your point. One word can to change the sense of one sentence. But I respond that: There is a lot of evidence exposed in museums and private collections around the world, even Dead Sea Scrolls. The Bible is the most copied book along the history, there are different versions coming from different centuries.
Great! finally we can to believe that Jesus was not a liar, thanks to science, long as science is not wrong again?!?!?!?!.. Jesus comes back soon please, we need you. Amen.
@adam3251 : There are several kind of generation; biological generation, historic generation, technological generation, for instance: likely, you belong to computers generation, it mean: that your brain is "conditionated" for using of PC as helper.
@Leivinn20 So which generation was Jesus referring to? Words have meanings and you can't change them. There is no word in Aramaic for generation that can be construed to mean thousands of years.
@adam3251: The New Testament was wrote in Greek, "generation" (gennēma = ghen'-nay-mah) means by analogy produce (literally or figuratively) fruit, generation. In Matthew 3: 7Jesus couldn´t had been talking about a specific biological generation because had Pharisees and Sadducees born during different years. It means they were of different aged. Therefore Jesus was talking on historic generation.
@adam3251 : In fact, Jews and Christians are still here, on the Earth. Keep in mind, Jesus told these word to Jews and his own disciples. This implicate that we are the last historical generation. No matter which quote from Bible, it´s constant.
how about the penis's come out from your asses and talk to people as if you actually respect them. You give fuel to the stereotype. thanks know-it-alls
PLEASE HELP ---- get a black sharpie or pen and cross the word god off all of your money. OR well anything else but def the money. Putting things right. Pass this on.PLEASE HELP ---- get a black sharpie or pen and cross the word god off all of your money. OR well anything else but def the money. Putting things right. Pass this on.
PLEASE HELP ---- get a black sharpie or pen and cross the word god off all of your money. OR well anything else but def the money. Putting things right. Pass this on.
guys it is one god and i believe in it,wo sand his son to die for os,and he rose from the dead,if you guys dont believe in him it is in you hand,istill love you all :) and dont worry if i dont reply you comments
One can never "prove" there is no God they can only scoff , or simply not believe our testimony that we know him and he has changed our hearts and how we now think. By the way, concerning the big bang or the first great cause, I sense a little "tacking into the wind" with comments like laws no longer apply pre -big bang. Keep on tacking !
@AishaBad You ask a question: "is world wide atheism your long term objective ?" and then you proceed, assuming that the answer is "yes." What might be hard for you to understand is that atheists are not part of a worldwide cabal with an agenda.
@JellyBird12 1st god make that place for the demon,2st yes god is a god of love AND justice to,catolics like prech wat the ppl like that way ppl allways say god is a loving god but de dint finish say wat more god is,and if you say why ppl go that place,it is in you hand to choose,believe in jesus you saver and turn you back for sin or still doing you wickedness and that is the place for the one's who won follow his own ting
@ishopwarrior So somebody who doesnt believe in him/her goes to hell? thats not a loving god at all, and made that place for demons/ who you kiddin? who says that all demons are evil? and if he made it for demons, why would he send his own childern that he supposedly loves there? Following your own thing, doesnt make you bad or a sinner, with all the shit happening around the world, you really believe that All Loving part.
@JellyBird12 And why would a loving god send non-believers to hell,
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He does not, but you choose to go there by your own free will!
The question of man's religious accountability, the sending of the Prophets, the proclamation of divine messages, and the principle of resurrection and judgment—all these rest on man's free will and choice in the acts he performs.
It would be completely meaningless were God, on the one hand, to compel men to do certain things and, on the
@JellyBird12 "Say: O my servants! who have acted extravagantly against their own souls, do not despair of the mercy of God; surely God forgives the faults altogether; surely He is the Forgiving the Merciful."
How can you delude yourself and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh Being Delusional, and Rational are to very different things, your gonna sprout what exists, yet not one person has ever prooved other wise, im not saying he does, and im not saying he doesnt, i dont no, but im not just gonna say it does because theres a church for it, thats just ignorant, and your gonna tell me otherwise? yeah, thats proof he exists..because i say he does................
@JellyBird12 Before he enters the realm of science and knowledge with all its concerns, man is able to perceive certain truths by means of these innate perceptions. But after entering the sphere of science and philosophy and filling his *brain* with various proofs and deductions, he may forget his natural and innate perceptions or begin to doubt them. It is for this reason that when man moves beyond his innate nature to delineate a belief, differences begin to appear.
One of the most destructive and misleading factors in thoughts concerning God is to restrict one's thought to the "logic" of the empirical sciences and to *fail* to recognize the *limits* and boundaries of that "logic".
Is that which is necessary in essence and which is considered the first source of existence matter itself or something else beyond the limits of matter?
@1tabligh Still waiting for proof, a book, nor a sentament is proof, are you really gonna believe in something when someone tells you too? i could say im jesus himself, would you believe me? by your logic you would...
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Deluded atheist looks at the world with BOTH eyes *closed* and, as a result, are unable to answer ALL the questions!
Is that which is necessary in essence and which is considered the first source of existence matter itself or something else beyond the limits of matter?
@1tabligh Im not odging any questions, you come at me with some religious shit, yet you havent, nor has anybody given a SHRED of proof this person exists, not a single piece of evidence, yet you want ppl to follow you in you so called rightious path? and beyond the limits of matter, might be a person, might be a machine, no one has the answer, but dont expect ppl to believe in something just because some 1 says its true from a book, Ps, im not an athiests, nor a christian, i folow NO religion
What a bunch of f*cking mumbo jumbo! Go to law school you fools!
shizzleman8 2 weeks ago
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If there truly is a god then why is there so much war? Hail atheism!!!
Wieditleestisgek666 1 month ago
We're not suppose to live by the ten commandments .. That's why Jesus died for us is because He knew we would not be abile to fallow them .... We're suppose to live by grace not by the law !!! The law is old news
aireal55 2 months ago
The argument the caller is putting across is called the Cosmological Argument. Cause and effect.
We just did this in R.S. lol thought I'd stick it out there.
LarkaDawg 2 months ago
The problem with those believing in god is each believes his god is the god.
When u believe strongly enough in anything, that becomes 'real'.
smellyfry 3 months ago
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who believes in dark matter? thats invisible :)
philos4r 5 months ago
theres a god, a living one an alpha and the omega. and this fact cant just easily understand by those people, who dont seek god. simply because man dont want to turn against wickedness. peace bye
FlavioAngPanday 5 months ago
Blah blah blah! God exists, and all creation bears witness to His glory. Repent or perish.
kevinwhitetfb 6 months ago
Agnostic means that they are not certain of anything. Is it fear? fear of been proven wrong?
abyjrc 7 months ago
@abyjrc It's rather wisdom. Agnostics aknowledge the fact that they are not all-knowing and that there are many things about the world they do not know. It is always possible that there are aditional facts that you don't know yet, but that are important to understand how things really are. So agnostics believes are assumptions made on their current knowledge and experience which you believe in until you learn new facts that point out at what things your believes were wrong. It's just smart.
Yora21 7 months ago
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I can prove God is real. I found the Garden of Eden He created. Look at my Videos.
downyourtube 8 months ago
this dude doesn't have any knowledge to argue. I mean you can have a 100% true belief ,but that doesn't mean you can argue it. This guy has been an agnostics for a year! he should put himself still for let's say much longer time before arguing ! i'm not talking about the existence of God am just talking about the way he argued
mdamal93 8 months ago
Advice for Antonio: Look into Islam and you will find all your answers. Just try reading the Quran at least once with an open heart.
Advice for Tracie and Russell: Go outside and look around.
TheAJMAL2 9 months ago
@TheAJMAL2 If only these Atheists were exposed to Imam Al-Ghazzali's arguments for the existence of God. They should all read Said Nursi's Risale-i-Nur which explains these arguments very well. Also, the idea that cause and effect falls apart at the quantum level isn't entirely true. New evidence shows that there is such thing as reverse causality at the quantum level, but more than that - virtual particles come into and out of existence because of the quantum vacuum (they still have a basis).
EnjoiningKnowlege 8 months ago
@EnjoiningKnowlege More than that though, the proofs developed by the Kalaam scholars does not depend on there being any actual causal powers in matter, or of causality between material events. In fact, this goes to support the idea that all is the Will of Allah, and what we see as "causality" between material events are merely correlations. Finally, what the lady mentioned about not being able to reason about things outside of the universe, this is just old logical positivism which was killed.
EnjoiningKnowlege 8 months ago
All 3 of you individuals have brilliant minds.That being said, God would be proud that you are using your free will and the right to speak on how you feel, Its called Human nature. If your out driving down a road an its foggy out an you cant see, does that mean the road is not there? It's just unfortunate that you guys lack the word faith, And for that you will NOT be punished, But you shall receive NO REWARD. God is Love, Kindness, And Happiness. In order to FIND Him... Just look past the Fog
Sadyouarex 9 months ago
@Sadyouarex
Listen to you, speaking on you're imaginary friends behalf......but it's only tolerable when children do it.
So we won't be punished?! What a relief! Of course I new that because none of that is R E A L. Can you imagine being judged and punished not for how you live or what you do but for what you BELIEVE?!
Your assertion that we just need to look for god........how do you think most of us got here?!
easyas314 9 months ago
religion is death insurance.
jayroalvarez 9 months ago
If you don't know 100% for sure you're not dead, what CAN you be sure of?
That's silly. Death has been defined and what you and I are is NOT dead. If you're not sure you're dead or not, I don't know what to tell you.
And proof of what? Gods? I just told you. They are beings imagined by men. They are storybook characters.
The earth believed to be FLAT is NOT a being. Besides, have you ever heard of the flat earth society? Currently there are people who believe that the earth is FLAT.
BastEternal 10 months ago
what i dont understand is whys it so important to disprove the existance of a god? maybe there is maybe theres not. why not let people believe what they believe, why the notion to force your own beliefs on someone else. When the fact is NOONE Knows for 100% sure, NOONE alive anyway
Razorokc 10 months ago
@Razorokc I know 100% for sure gods don't exist. Neither do any other mythical beings. Why? Because they are a product of the human mind. They are made up stories to explain what was unexplainable at the time the story was first told. And many of these stories are harmful! They're divisive, judgmental and not conducive to harmony among all.
And I don't get why so many, atheists included, exempt the GOD myth from other myths that people claim with absolute certainty don't exist.
BastEternal 10 months ago
@BastEternal thats just it you dont know and cant know 100% , youre not dead. you believe what you believe becuase you were tuaght it or coninced of it, wheres your proof? Just cause you believe something doesnt mean that something is the way you think it is. people believed for years that the earth was flat, they were 100% sure. they were wrong. The only way to be sure of smething is to see it with your eyes, hear it with yor ears and exsperience it for yourself.
Razorokc 10 months ago
Leprechauns don't exist. There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
The leprechaun myth was perpetuated by the Irish; Tuatha de Danann. It's folklore. Ancient Greeks believed in Zeus - they made up all sorts of stories to explain thunder, why the sun rose and set, the seasons, etc. Science has discredited Zeus and his gang.
Stop exempting GODS or any other myth from absolute certainty. Science has done a great job discrediting countless superstitions - why is God still being exempt?
BastEternal 10 months ago
THE WOMAN GOES IN IM WITH HER, FUCK IF U DONT AGREE WITH ME
SecDorz 10 months ago
If you are making a living out of this arrogance, then I believe you have lost the deal, I bear witness that theirs no god besides Allah and Mohammad is his messenger
Munzer1977 10 months ago
You have failed to prove your claim that a personal or non-personal god exists, as one can NOT infer that the laws of nature are proof of the existence of gods. The laws of nature do NOT prove gods exist. The laws of nature need NOT have been created by a designer, NOR must they have embody the intent or purpose of a supernatural willful being. Your logic is flawed.
BTW. Einstein did not believe in gods. Google: Einstein papers sold England
yourtreat2 10 months ago
God is an everlasting and eternal, self-existent, omnipresent, united, good, just, omniscient, unchanging, omnipotent, creative, intelligent, personal, and Supreme being. The evidence for such a being is demonstrated in my video “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God.”
joehardysr 1 year ago
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Do you believe in god, yet have no evidence to prove your claim? Have you seen the truth that conciousness is the source of all life and matter, yet no one will believe you? Would you like to know how to stop a physicist in his tracks? Well you've come to the right place. The one thing you need to say, to make any physicist STFU and GTFO is......... WHAT ABOUT THE MEASUREMENT PROBLEM BITCH? Yeah, thats right, the measurement problem.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Do you have a measurement problem? What is your argument against (or for) the existence of God. I have arguments to support my claim that a being such as "God" exists. What is your argument?
joehardysr 1 year ago
Religious people ask for proof that god does not exist to atheists? Still they have no proof that he exists. Often I hear the universe could not have started out of nothing. Could then god start out of nothing? Why is it ok when it is god? And not ok when it is the universe? The reply is often. He work in mysterious ways, or we don't know that yet. The last one is the one I like the best. Because it is similar to my opinion. Accept that you don't know something till you learn it. Thats life.
Norwayflex89 1 year ago
@Norwayflex89
Norwayflex89, there is no necessity that God must be created.
Anything that exists either always existed or was created. This applies to any physical object or God. Here are the logical options:
1) Nothing produced something.
2) Something created itself.
3) Something was created by something else.
4) Something always existed.
Now, for reasons I have stated in my video “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God” choice 1 and 2 are impossible.
This leaves 3 and 4.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr He cannot be created. Still he is created. Ironic.
Nr.1 make god weird?
Nr.2 God : Win / Universe : win
nr.3 God Win : Universe : win
Nr.4 God : ? / Universe : ?
Norwayflex89 1 year ago
@Norwayflex89
It's weird how you assume that God is created since I never stated that. As portrayed by the Bible, God always existed.
Let me state it again: Anything that exists either always existed or began to exist.
The biblical claim isn't that God wasn't created but always existed.
1) Either I always existed or I began to exist.
2) Either the universe always existed or it began to exist.
3) Either God always existed or God began to exist.
Self-creation by any being is impossible.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@Craig1839
I don't believe everything that people say, Pastor or not. No matter who you are or what title you have, my responsibility is to test what everyone says and find out if its true or not.
It's interesting to me that so many people view Christianity as a means of just getting into Heaven. Is that what it looks like? Does a Christian look like someone who is struggling and striving to get into Heaven?
aKat627 1 year ago
@aKat627 .....Yes...
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12
...then we have been doing a poor job of presenting the truth. I know Christians who could care less if there is a Heaven or not, because thats not what it's about; it's so much more than a reward at the end. There's something deeper inside each of us that cries out to be near to the one who created us. And his desire is to be near to us. It's not just an emotional satisfation, but he can satisfy the depths of our souls. Something that nothing else, no one else, can touch.
aKat627 1 year ago
@aKat627 but he can satisfy the depths of our souls, Something that nothing else, no one else, can touch.
Not true at all, Love has moe power than he/she does.
And not everbody cries out to be near this so called creator that some ppl seem to cling onto even they though they think he/she is all caring and what not.
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12
It's interesting that you recognize love as the most powerful thing because the bible says "God is Love".
Without believing in a God, how do YOU know love is the most powerful thing? How do you measure it?
Okay, i take that back... maybe not "everyone" cries out to be "near" -- but i know that those are the ones He is looking for
aKat627 1 year ago
@aKat627 That same debate can for God too, just because the Bible says something, does in no way mean it too be true.
And there are ones that want to be near to him/her, but how can someone want to be near him.her if him/her might not be nothing to begin with? i dunno, but i cant do that to somethig imaginary if it is.
JellyBird12 1 year ago
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@JellyBird12
What do you believe?
aKat627 1 year ago
@aKat627 I do not no..
JellyBird12 1 year ago
my face and palm are sore from so much contact with each other
2nDoppelganger 1 year ago
@2nDoppelganger
Yes, He exists!
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr Okay...
2nDoppelganger 1 year ago
@joehardysr No she does exist. It does exist.
Norwayflex89 1 year ago
@Norwayflex89
Why is there a "No"?
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr Who said it was a he? The Bible? Haven't you heard, The Keys of Enoch is the new bible, combining science and god into one. Order within the next 20 mins and get 2 copies for only $19.99 with free shipping and handling.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Who said it was an it? You? Haven't you heard that sound reasoning is better than empty rhetoric? I present my case for God in “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God.” What is your case?
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr The Keys of Enoch is my case. God is more of a universal term rather than a title. God is everything, the entire collective conciousness as a whole. We are all co creators. The measurement problem is the fact that atoms only appear when being measured by a conciously aware observer. This means that atoms might not actually be there if we didn't look for them. So maybe the universe is here because concious beings are.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, does "The Keys of Enoch" make the claims you make? I present my case for God and show how it is consistent with a biblical understanding of God. You may attempt to address my arguments, showing that my conclusions are unsound. But I doubt that any of your attempts would show that I did not prove the existence of a being commonly referred to as "God."
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr HAHA We are beings of light bro. God is a term to describe all light. Megenta if you will. The material world is the 3rd dimension and we are going to the 5th. The bible oof today is not the original bible, so how do we know its true. The one thing that says it's not true, is that we are supposed to fear god, obey his demands, and if we dont, we go to hell. Hell doesn't even exist, so how would we go to it.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, you are redefining "God." Good luck to ya!
Why concern yourself with questions such as "What does the original Bible say?," "How do you know what it says?" and "Will hell ever exist?" We are dealing with the existence or nonexistence of God.
Kalam Cosmological Argument
1) Whatever began to exist had a cause.
2) The universe began to exist.
3) Therefore the universe had a cause.
Whatever exists either began to exist or always existed, even God.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr Dude, Keys of Enoch, look it up. How about david wilcock, drunvalo melchizadek, team light. God isn't a being, god is everything, we all have a piece of it. We've already proved that the universe is a cycle. At one point, it will collapse on itself, only to re distribute through space. Conciousness was not created by the universe, it was always there. There is no beginning or no end.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, you are making claims that you do not support.
“We've already proved that the universe is a cycle” (Shakmastershake).
Exactly who has proven that the universe is a cycle? Is this a prevailing view accepted in a particular community? Which community holds this as a prevailing view?
Does everything constitute God or does a piece of everything God?
If “Conciousness was not created by the universe,” but “was always there,” is consciousness material?
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr How come you don't have evidence? You can't use the bible as evidence, because it has been re interpreted many times over the years. Is the earth 6000 years old. No. The sphinx at Giza is a perfect model of the constellation leo, and it points to where the constellation of our age rises. Leo hasn't risen in that spot for 15000 years. The pyramids are on a 45* angle, and the last time orion was on a 45* angle was 15000 years ago. Oh yeah, dinosaurs, explain that.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Have I used the Bible as evidence that there is a God? Where?
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr The big bang theory is what created the universe, yet it is still a theory. In stephen hawkings new book, he says that universes are created by a wave like effect of 2 universes hitting against eachother, which means that it is a cycle. But, that only works in the 3rd dimension where time governs. Time does not govern 5d. If the bible isn't your evidence, then what is?
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, the big bang theory describes the process of expansion of the universe as we know it. The theory did not create the universe.
Where did the 2 universes hitting each other come from?
I present evidence in my video “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God.”
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr In Hawings new book The Grand Design, he states that there is no need for god because we have physics and that physics alone creates the universe. He also states that there is a wave pattern of other universes that flop against eachother creating more universes in a never ending cycle. But that ultimately leads to the same question, who or what created the first universe, if there is a first.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Answers such as "The universe is just there" is not a statement backed by science. They threw out the steady state theory a long time ago. Something must have been special about the first [set of] universe[s] in a multiverse or metaverse. It seems like Hawkings unhjustifiably dismises God.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr He does unjustifiably dismiss god. He accidentally disproved what he was trying to prove. I watched the video on your channel, which has some good points. I don't doubt the existance of god at all. I just have a different view on it. I know that all matter is energy condensed to a slow vibrational state which we call the 3rd dimension. Accessing the 5th requires you to activate the pineal gland, which secretes dmt to your brain
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
So, if a being brought the universe into existence, then we know that being must be timeless, spaceless, and immaterial. Pure energy cannot exist; there is no energy without mass.
Without objects there can be no force, without forces there can be no potential to do work, without the potential to do work there can be no energy. Thus, energy cannot exist without mass and, therefore, pure energy (generated or existing energy without mass, in a natural sense) cannot exist.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr Once it is activated, you can secrete DMT at will, bringing you to the higher dimensions. Everything is designed by the mind. It made a system that is so hard to break into or out of, it's just perfect.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Pure energy cannot exist; there is no energy without mass.
Without objects there can be no force, without forces there can be no potential to do work, without the potential to do work there can be no energy. Thus, energy cannot exist without mass and, therefore, pure energy (generated or existing energy without mass, in a natural sense) cannot exist.
This eliminates the existence of an eternal universe and leaves the best known candidate for such a being—God.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr How do you see god, might I ask? As in how does god exist in your system?
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, I am not sure what you mean. This is how I unsderstand God to be:
God is an everlasting and eternal, self-existent, omnipresent, united, good, just, omniscient, unchanging, omnipotent, creative, intelligent, personal, and Supreme being.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the Universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the Universe exists, why we exist” (Stephen Hawking, The Grand Design).
My video “GOD IS: Evidence for the Existence of God” shows that self-creation and creation by nothing is impossible. See Section [C] Establishing Causality.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr I'm just gunna let you wait and see then. We don't have much of a wait left anyways. The universe is made up of pure energy that comes from pure conciousness. We create the space around us because the universe responds to our thoughts. Thats how the law of attraction works. We are co creators, and god, megenta, all light is just everything in existence, including the higher and highest dimensions.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
My question to you is this, then, Shakmastershake.
What is energy?
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr Part of the mind that creates everything. Time is only a 3rd dimensional concept
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
So, did energy create the mind or did the mind create energy (which is part of the mind)?
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr The Mind is a collective conciousness, which is god. God has always existed as a higher form of conciousness that forms matter energy by thinking. There are much higher dimensions than the one we call reality. I watched the videos on your channel, did you watch any of the pnes I sent you?
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
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@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, my question was:
"So, did energy create the mind or did the mind create energy (which is part of the mind)?"
From your statement:
"God has always existed as a higher form of conciousness that forms matter energy by thinking."
It seems as if you are conceding that God has created matter and energy. If God did create matter and energy and preceded it then God is immaterial and not energy.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@Shakmaster..We can raise precisely the same objection against the atheists and ask them, "If we follow the chain of causality back, we will ultimately reach the primary cause. Let us say that cause is not God, but matter. Tell us who created primary matter. You who believe in the law of causality, answer us Ws: if matter is the ultimate cause of all things, what is the cause of matter?
You say that the source of all phenomena is matter-energy; what is the cause and origin of matter-energy?"
1tabligh 10 months ago
@1tabligh The highest form of conciousness. I would say, all minds in the universe are connected to one mind, a hive mind. The hive mind would be the creator and our own minds would be co-creators. The hive mind makes the base set of rules and laws whereas our own minds manipulate the materials around us via the law of attraction. I believe the universe to be of an infinite cycle. The big bang came from another universe, a star that sucked in matter until it became a black hole.
Shakmastershake 10 months ago
@1tabligh The matter from the black hole popped out in a parallel universe to create more stars which turn into more black holes and create more matter in other universes. Either this has gone on for an infinite amount of time because of some sort of collective conciousness, or whatever was the one who decided to create, ultimately sacrificed itself for the universes to be.
Shakmastershake 10 months ago
Since the chain of causality cannot recede into infinity, they can answer only that matter is an eternal and timeless entity for which no beginning can be posited: matter is non-created, has no beginning or end, and its being arises from within its own nature.
This means that the materialists accept the principle of eternity and non-origination; they believe that all things arose out of eternal matter and that being arises from within the very nature of matter, without any need for a creator
1tabligh 10 months ago
@1tabligh My stance is, everything has always been here because of the existance of the higher demensions, and that what we call the universe which consists of 3 spatial dimentions, is just part of a mathematical equation. We are concious observers experiencing life in 3d through meat suits. The mind is seperate from the body which means it's origin is not of this place we live in.
Shakmastershake 10 months ago
@Shak..In just the same way that atheist regards matter as eternal, believers in God attribute eternity to God. Belief in an eternal being is then common to materialist and religious philosophers: both groups agree that there is a primary cause, but believers in God regard the primary cause as wise, all-knowing, and possessing the power of decision and will, whereas in the view of the materialists, the primary cause has neither consciousness, intelligence, perception, nor the power of decision.
1tabligh 10 months ago
Thus, the removal of God in no way solves the problem posed by eternal being.
Moreover, matter is the locus for motion and change, and its motion is dynamic and situated within its own essence. Now, essential motion is incompatible with eternity, and matter and essential stability are two mutually exclusive categories that cannot be fused in a single locus.
1tabligh 10 months ago
Whatever is stable and immutable in its essence cannot accept movement and change within that essence.
How do atheists, who believe that matter is accompanied by its antithesis, justify the eternity of matter/energy?
1tabligh 10 months ago
@1tabligh Are you suggesting that I am an atheist, because if you are, you are very much mistaken.
Shakmastershake 10 months ago
@Shakmastershake Then who are you?
1tabligh 10 months ago
@1tabligh I am a spiritualist. I believe we are concious observers and co creators. Sub atomicaly, atoms appear when being measured or observed. Follow that rule up to what we see around us means that it is only there because we observe and believe it to be real. The brain cannot tell the difference between experience, memory or imagination. Only the concious observer has the ability to tell the difference. That means our origins are of pure divinity and not of the 3rd demension
Shakmastershake 10 months ago
@Shakmastershake Eternity means stability and immutability of essence, the impossibility of cessation, but matter/energy is in its essence a compendium of forces and potentialities; it is relativity itself, totally caught up in living and dying.
1tabligh 10 months ago
@joehardysr You may ask what 5d is. It is where you go when you sleep, you just don't remember because of the huge amounts of DMT that your brain releases. After practicing meditation and astral projection, you activate the chakra system enabling a clean flow of energy through your body. Over a period of a few months, you reconnect to your higher selves, there are 14. You can gain access to your Koshick records, and review everything in your past lives. Either I'm right, or all of us be crazy
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
You say, "Either I'm right, or all of us be crazy." Are these two options at least mutually exclusive? I don't think so.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr There are millions of people that astral project, me being one of them. Some of us can remote view locaitons, without have been there in the first place. It works because we are part of a collective conciousness with a single mind, and the material world is a mental projection. It is stored in our brains like a map. Would you like me to forward you to some ascended masters?
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
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@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, I don't need you to do something spectacular. I just need you to answer the question I aske previously:
You say, "Either I'm right, or all of us be crazy." Are these two options at least mutually exclusive? I don't think so.
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr When you separate the neutrons in a atom, the remain energetically connected, no matter how far apart they are. So we are all energetically connected with eachother, the planet, the galaxy, the universe, the multiverse and so on. We are all one and we are all god.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, did you always know you were God?
joehardysr 1 year ago
@joehardysr Get a copy of the keys of enoch and read it. It explains the existance of god on a scientific and quantum level. I don't need proof to know that the universe is purely made up of conciousness.
Shakmastershake 1 year ago
@Shakmastershake
Shakmastershake, you need to be able to present a case from the evidence you have encountered. If what you read really helped you should ve able to present a case.
joehardysr 1 year ago
What on earth does it matter how you justify as these atheists do the world is governed by logic? We're not talking about this worldly understanding, we're not by these atheist's very admission. To decide something isn't outside your mind or isn't in motion is to close your mind to atheism, contarary to science I feel. What on earth does it matter when we're talking about how something outside the universe works how your belief within it functions adequately? Absolute rubbish.
fredbloggs02 1 year ago
So when we get to before the big bang or outside the far reaches of our universe that's when evidence has no bearing on anything...aaaahhhhhhhh ok .. Well god is some might suggest outside those far reaches that by the token of science could exist/will always exist in some form if only the far reaches of our imagination. The difference between our imagination and our truth and our reality and our evidence I think are easily distinguishable even by logic's evidential doctrine.
fredbloggs02 1 year ago
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fredbloggs02 1 year ago
the caller had a much more pen mind and the people answering were closed mind and especially the women was both ignorant and felt that she had to put people below her and prove their ignorance through rediculous comments.
MrJewJake 1 year ago
I am just curious... what is it like to live a life that denies the existance of God? What does it feel like? What does it look like? What does it mean, if there is no God?
I know Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit of Truth and I spend the time to get closer to Him every day. I know what it's like to have Him, so I'm just wondering what it feels like without Him?
aKat627 1 year ago
@aKat627 I am currently agnostic. When I was younger, I just believed what anybody told me. I used to feel happy that I would go to a better life when I was done with this one. You have to understand that you cannot base your entire life on a book. I now feel more free to enjoy my life to the fullest. If Jesus makes you happy, so be it. As long as you don't harm anyone, it is fine. I like to be a good person, not to please god, but to make myself happy. I feel free without religion.
itouch1234567 1 year ago
@itouch1234567
How do you know what is true? or do you believe that their can be more than one truth?
aKat627 1 year ago
@aKat627 it feels great! I dont have to spend every day worrying and striving to please sombody else (god) I can do things that I enjoy doing.
CocoKing238 1 year ago
@CocoKing238
i dont spend my time worrying or striving to please God, I know He already delights in me--I dont need to worry about loosing His favor.
Were you Christian in the past? and now you feel more free?
aKat627 1 year ago
@aKat627 yes i used to be a christian and im kindof starting to belive that god exist but the only think holding me back is just exactly what wee talking about.. if i were a christian then i couldnt do anything that i like to do because almost everything i do breaks those stupid ass 10 comandments...
CocoKing238 8 months ago
@CocoKing238 at the same time in breaking these ten commandments you are basically doing something wrong that u shouldnt be doing at all...so it would be breaking your sense of morals that we all instinctively know which means someone had to install those morals of right and wrong someone who is an infinite being who was always there...thererfore god does exist
krunchyftw 5 months ago
@aKat627 and so yeas you feel WAY MORE free as an athiest
CocoKing238 8 months ago
Agnostic definition as was defined by T.H. Huxley, the man who coined the term that means one should not profess to a belief in something that cannot be proven.
lalabon01 1 year ago
I've got proof. Why do people get the holy spirit in church huh? They can't be all faking it. That's some proof for ya. Think about it.
TheDannyw429 1 year ago
@TheDannyw429 I am not denying the existence of god as I am agnostic, but I do not believe that that portion of religion is true. When you whole-heartedly believe something, your body will react to that as if it were true. If you hypnotized into thinking you are drowning, you will gasp for air and struggle to move upwards. You could even die, just because your brain believes it. And of course there are a few who just want to look like they are going to heaven. :)
itouch1234567 1 year ago
I love astronomy and I'm a christian, but at the end where they start talking about the possibility of other universes and all that stuff about the laws of this universe not applying outside of the big bang so can't assume cause and affect kind of makes me laugh. I could quite easily say that sounds more wild than saying there is a god that made everything. They've never been to this place or seen anything of it. At least through history people claimed to of been in contact with a living god.
Scott111188 1 year ago
@Scott111188 Actually those multiverse scenarios have a mathematical basis, and a lot of quantum hypotheses have been predicted by mathematics only to be confirmed years later by experimentation. Can you say the same is true for your "personal god" hunch? I don't think so.
Murdulo 1 year ago
You will find answer of all your questions in the Quran................
2redpapers 1 year ago
GOD really is real though, he just has a alcohol problem hes been in AA for the past 765,000 kazillionbagillion years, but he's coming back an i know for a fact cuz he text me so this morning, i tried to text him back but his daytime minutes ran out, he told me to inform the rest of us, that hes waiting for the gas prices to drop , then he will come but he also said it might take a while cuz of his bum knee & gout, {SuUUupERCallifrAGIListIKspikdyalllLyDOShuisSt} the spirit is so strong WHEW!
blackwoodjankins 1 year ago
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plbuster 1 year ago
@SnipersScope55 Actually, your insults aside, I asked about Christianity. I did not ask about any other religion. What? Are you afraid of the words coming out of your mouth? Do you not wish to own your own beliefs?
I'll ask yet again the simple question! Are Atheists Anti-Christian? Don't talk about "all religions". It's a simple question.
plbuster 1 year ago
What, no retort? No ketschy slogan? No beating around the bush? Too hard a question to answer?
Are Atheists Anti-Christian?
plbuster 1 year ago
@plbuster No, atheism doesn't include antitheism: It's not a requirement for the atheism concept.
However, antitheists are basically anti-christians in the same way they are anti-islam and anti-any-religion-you-can-imagine. Which is a rational position to take, given the track record of religions worldwide.
Murdulo 1 year ago
@SnipersScope55 I did not ask about theism, religion, allah, ghosts, or your particular supernatural beliefs. I asked "Are these people saying that atheists are Anti-Christian?" Are Atheists anti-Christian. Do they seek the suppression, elimination, or destruction of Christianity?
I was able to glean from your comment that Atheists reject Christ.
plbuster 1 year ago
Uh...still not following the conversation in the video.
plbuster 1 year ago
@SnipersScope55 So, they don't believe in God. Ok. I can figure that out for myself. I asked "Are these people saying that atheists are Anti-Christian?" and "Do they reject Christ?". Rather simple questions, really.
plbuster 1 year ago
This conversation doesn't make sense. Are these people saying that atheists are anti-Christian? Do they reject Christ?
plbuster 1 year ago
Strong's says what you claim about it being fruit. But it doesn't say ANYTHING about a historical age. The greeks didn't have this concept at the time.
adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251: Independently of word you are using, the words are information, and it´s necessary interpret them in own context. In the contrary case, you would need to ask to person who wrote the document to understand what each word mean. Obviously, this would be nonsense. Besides, the translating of ancient manuscripts would be impossible from your viewpoint.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 Words have meanings, friend. All I want is a standard by which we can judge the meaning of words. It is disingenuous to alter a meaning of a phrase to bolster a theological position.
adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251 : Ok, then Aristotle never existed and the Spanish is not a language coming from latin, and the latin language never was used by Romans. You are going need quite lot of evidence for proving your point.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 I don't think we are on the same page here. I never made any of those claims.
adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251: Ok, I understand your point. One word can to change the sense of one sentence. But I respond that: There is a lot of evidence exposed in museums and private collections around the world, even Dead Sea Scrolls. The Bible is the most copied book along the history, there are different versions coming from different centuries.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
Great! finally we can to believe that Jesus was not a liar, thanks to science, long as science is not wrong again?!?!?!?!.. Jesus comes back soon please, we need you. Amen.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 He said he would be back in one generation. How long are you going to wait?
adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251 : There are several kind of generation; biological generation, historic generation, technological generation, for instance: likely, you belong to computers generation, it mean: that your brain is "conditionated" for using of PC as helper.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 So which generation was Jesus referring to? Words have meanings and you can't change them. There is no word in Aramaic for generation that can be construed to mean thousands of years.
adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251: The New Testament was wrote in Greek, "generation" (gennēma = ghen'-nay-mah) means by analogy produce (literally or figuratively) fruit, generation. In Matthew 3: 7Jesus couldn´t had been talking about a specific biological generation because had Pharisees and Sadducees born during different years. It means they were of different aged. Therefore Jesus was talking on historic generation.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@Leivinn20 Citation please.
adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251 : In fact, Jews and Christians are still here, on the Earth. Keep in mind, Jesus told these word to Jews and his own disciples. This implicate that we are the last historical generation. No matter which quote from Bible, it´s constant.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
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adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251 Strong is not a neutral source. I need a neutral citation.
adam3251 1 year ago
@adam3251 : What do you mean " neutral source"?, as far as I know the scientists have different opinions according to own worldview.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
@adam3251 : I used Strong dictionary.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
how about the penis's come out from your asses and talk to people as if you actually respect them. You give fuel to the stereotype. thanks know-it-alls
howardTheman7 1 year ago
PLEASE HELP ---- get a black sharpie or pen and cross the word god off all of your money. OR well anything else but def the money. Putting things right. Pass this on.PLEASE HELP ---- get a black sharpie or pen and cross the word god off all of your money. OR well anything else but def the money. Putting things right. Pass this on.
party489 1 year ago
PLEASE HELP ---- get a black sharpie or pen and cross the word god off all of your money. OR well anything else but def the money. Putting things right. Pass this on.
party489 1 year ago
guys it is one god and i believe in it,wo sand his son to die for os,and he rose from the dead,if you guys dont believe in him it is in you hand,istill love you all :) and dont worry if i dont reply you comments
ishopwarrior 1 year ago
@ishopwarrior *facepalm*
NathanWubs 1 year ago
One can never "prove" there is no God they can only scoff , or simply not believe our testimony that we know him and he has changed our hearts and how we now think. By the way, concerning the big bang or the first great cause, I sense a little "tacking into the wind" with comments like laws no longer apply pre -big bang. Keep on tacking !
real012 1 year ago
@AishaBad You ask a question: "is world wide atheism your long term objective ?" and then you proceed, assuming that the answer is "yes." What might be hard for you to understand is that atheists are not part of a worldwide cabal with an agenda.
thirtysilver 1 year ago
What's up with the camera work?
IanEColeman 1 year ago
Why would a loving god create hell in the first place?
And why would a loving god send non-believers to hell, when there's no evidence of his existence, other than hearsay?
Does he like watching people suffer? is he a sadist?
Doesn't sound like a loving god to me, sounds like a man-made god.
JellyBird12 1 year ago 6
@JellyBird12 1st god make that place for the demon,2st yes god is a god of love AND justice to,catolics like prech wat the ppl like that way ppl allways say god is a loving god but de dint finish say wat more god is,and if you say why ppl go that place,it is in you hand to choose,believe in jesus you saver and turn you back for sin or still doing you wickedness and that is the place for the one's who won follow his own ting
ishopwarrior 1 year ago
@ishopwarrior So somebody who doesnt believe in him/her goes to hell? thats not a loving god at all, and made that place for demons/ who you kiddin? who says that all demons are evil? and if he made it for demons, why would he send his own childern that he supposedly loves there? Following your own thing, doesnt make you bad or a sinner, with all the shit happening around the world, you really believe that All Loving part.
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12 yes,and it is in you hand wat to believe or not
ishopwarrior 1 year ago
@ishopwarrior And its in your hands not to be ignorant and believe such triffle about that All Goodness part.
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12 And why would a loving god send non-believers to hell,
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He does not, but you choose to go there by your own free will!
The question of man's religious accountability, the sending of the Prophets, the proclamation of divine messages, and the principle of resurrection and judgment—all these rest on man's free will and choice in the acts he performs.
It would be completely meaningless were God, on the one hand, to compel men to do certain things and, on the
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh Jeesus Christ, this was 5months ago, I really couldnt give a rats ass anymore.
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12 "Say: O my servants! who have acted extravagantly against their own souls, do not despair of the mercy of God; surely God forgives the faults altogether; surely He is the Forgiving the Merciful."
The Quran: [39:53]
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh In The Name of Allah, That A-Hole, Shut The Fuk Up Already, not interested anymore.
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12 not interested anymore.
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Then stay in YOUR delusions!
How can you delude yourself and believe that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh No scientist says that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons produced themselves. You are deluded if you think so.
atheistram 1 year ago
@1tabligh Being Delusional, and Rational are to very different things, your gonna sprout what exists, yet not one person has ever prooved other wise, im not saying he does, and im not saying he doesnt, i dont no, but im not just gonna say it does because theres a church for it, thats just ignorant, and your gonna tell me otherwise? yeah, thats proof he exists..because i say he does................
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12 Before he enters the realm of science and knowledge with all its concerns, man is able to perceive certain truths by means of these innate perceptions. But after entering the sphere of science and philosophy and filling his *brain* with various proofs and deductions, he may forget his natural and innate perceptions or begin to doubt them. It is for this reason that when man moves beyond his innate nature to delineate a belief, differences begin to appear.
1tabligh 1 year ago
God and Empirical Logic.
One of the most destructive and misleading factors in thoughts concerning God is to restrict one's thought to the "logic" of the empirical sciences and to *fail* to recognize the *limits* and boundaries of that "logic".
Is that which is necessary in essence and which is considered the first source of existence matter itself or something else beyond the limits of matter?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh Still waiting for proof, a book, nor a sentament is proof, are you really gonna believe in something when someone tells you too? i could say im jesus himself, would you believe me? by your logic you would...
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12
Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Deluded atheist looks at the world with BOTH eyes *closed* and, as a result, are unable to answer ALL the questions!
Is that which is necessary in essence and which is considered the first source of existence matter itself or something else beyond the limits of matter?
1tabligh 1 year ago
@1tabligh Im not odging any questions, you come at me with some religious shit, yet you havent, nor has anybody given a SHRED of proof this person exists, not a single piece of evidence, yet you want ppl to follow you in you so called rightious path? and beyond the limits of matter, might be a person, might be a machine, no one has the answer, but dont expect ppl to believe in something just because some 1 says its true from a book, Ps, im not an athiests, nor a christian, i folow NO religion
JellyBird12 1 year ago
@JellyBird12 Is it at all feasible to regard all the geometry, functioning and movement of the universe as the outcome of matter in its ignorance?
1tabligh 1 year ago