So a quick bit of "dirty research" shows that like oil, which is in many friendly nations, but most of the reserves are in the countries that hate the "Western World" (Middle East, Iran, Russia) and is running out (peak oil), Lithium is also found in a number of nations in small portions, but the bulk is in China and is in a limited supply that can barely keep up with computers and cell phones without cars.
So we are hitting peak Lithium, too. Green can't work if we are out of it.
Hey, all you pro- Lithium Ion battery tech, ask yourselves where all the Lithium exists in the world... and how it's mined.
Now ask yourself: How often do batteries have to be changed when charged normally (not ideally)?
It's shown that the electrical production can be made more clean... but so can ICE. What hasn't been proven yet is if the storage of electricity can be more efficient that the storage of energy in hydro-carbon.
The world waits, but does it do nothing while it does so?
Refining a gallon of gasoline requires about 6 to 7.5kWh worth of energy. You could drive about 30 miles with an electric car with that alone. If the most analyses would take that into account, there would be no debate at all. Electric is just so much cleaner.
@lupzter78 "Refining a gallon of gasoline requires about 6 to 7.5kWh worth of energy. You could drive about 30 miles with an electric car with that alone"
You can equate refining gas to using electricity. You must equate refining gas to producing electricity and burning gas to using electricity.
Apples to Apples.
"Electric is just so much cleaner"
Burning gas and Nat. gas to create electricity...
Apples to apples.
Now compare the wind powered electricity to sail powered cars.
@joshthecartoonguy Even when powered by the current US grid, electric cars are still cleaner than even the cleanest gasoline cars. See our emission summary at pluginamerica org/images/EmissionsSummary pdf (replace spaces with .)
@pluginamerica Two of those analyses found that America having all electric cars (while powered by coal) would decreace CO2 by 0%. The other ones claimed there would be a decrease of 17%-59%. So, best case scenario, electric cars' CO2 emissions would be 41% of gas'. Your own study admits the data is mixed on whether electric will decrease or increase pollutants. Maybe the next commercial should say "I'm electric I profit from destroying the planet too, but not quite as much as gas! . . . Maybe."
@joshthecartoonguy 41% would be less than half-- pretty big reduction. Your worst case scenario, all electricity coming from coal, isn't the case now and will only be less true in the future.
Smart&Safe headphone conduct the sound from cell phone conversations and music through a hollow tube filled with air, without metal wires. This is scientifically proven to reduce the electromagnetic radiation reaching the user’s sensitive ear and brain area by up to 98%
eletric cars where lounched in USA, when cell phones even wheren't used a lot.
but unfortunatly those cars where so good, that oil companies collected all cars and threw them away. as i know there is at least 1 left in some museum.
Looks like this video was the inspiration for the newest Renault Z.E. advertisement that just came out. Unfortunately I can't seem to post the link here. Search for The electric life.
These people should be slapped in the head. I might be halfway willing to maybe consider possibly thinking for a second that electric cars aren't completely retarded if we would use nuclear power instead of redundant coal power. (Not that I have a problem with coal power other than it's more expensive than nuclear power)
wow, so ilogical, i don't even know where to begin, what idiot designed this commercial? first gasoline powered engines don't emit that many fumes, second where do you think electricity comes from, do your research. third what do cell phones have to do whith cars?
@MinecraftAce Even when charged by the US's current grid (~50% coal powered), electric vehicles are still cleaner than a Prius. Your house uses more electricity than your electric car would. You should consider purchasing green power from your utility, so your house (and eventually car) can be powered by clean, renewable electricity.
Great Advertisment but I resent the relation of Electric Cars to Apple Computers, being an EV enthusiast who is also a user of PC's. A better relation would be, carriages to horseless carriages, sail power to steamships, fax machines to email. All of these would be as Internal Combustion Engine Vehicles to pure Electric Traction vehicles.
My hybrid's batteries are about 10 years old. My mileage has dropped. I'm getting about 60 mpg with a little over 200k miles on the Insight. Its paid for itself. Honda has been dragging its feet getting its BEV to market. While I'd love to get a Honda pure electric, I'm looking at a Nissan Leaf. I also live on the Great Lakes where we have wind powered electric cooperatives.
ok..thats just stupid..first off a nitro rc motor used for this puts out smoke you wont even see at those rpms
untill they figure out how to make batterys that are NOT harmfull to the enviroment to make all electric cars they are actualy 4x more harmfull to the enviroment to make i wont even get into the fact the cars are NOT bio degradeable
the footprint put on the planet by 1 so called "green" car is still worse than a FLEET of good restore a classic and come out ahead
@Sh0rtlife Li-Ion batteries are not harmful to the environment; Lithium is non toxic. No cars (that I know of) are biodegradable, but Li-Ion batteries are 100% recyclable (when was the last time you recycled a gallon of gas).
Can you cite where you are getting the 4X more harmful number and the fleet of classic cars vs 1 new car numbers. I hadn't heard those statistics.
@Sh0rtlife Let's pretend that it is "actually 4x more harmful to the environment" to make battery cars. Now that the cars are made... what if the gasoline car is 8x more harmful to the environment to operate? We have to look at the whole picture to determine what is better or worse for the environment. Making the cars is just one part. I have no idea where you are getting your statistics, but after studying EVs for ten years, I've not run across anything relevant that supports your assertions.
@Sh0rtlife Batteries aren't harmfull to the environment, lead acid and Nimh are but lithium can be dumped under current laws if you really want, but they will be recycled or used for other purposes
So a quick bit of "dirty research" shows that like oil, which is in many friendly nations, but most of the reserves are in the countries that hate the "Western World" (Middle East, Iran, Russia) and is running out (peak oil), Lithium is also found in a number of nations in small portions, but the bulk is in China and is in a limited supply that can barely keep up with computers and cell phones without cars.
So we are hitting peak Lithium, too. Green can't work if we are out of it.
bsabruzzo 4 days ago
Hey, all you pro- Lithium Ion battery tech, ask yourselves where all the Lithium exists in the world... and how it's mined.
Now ask yourself: How often do batteries have to be changed when charged normally (not ideally)?
It's shown that the electrical production can be made more clean... but so can ICE. What hasn't been proven yet is if the storage of electricity can be more efficient that the storage of energy in hydro-carbon.
The world waits, but does it do nothing while it does so?
bsabruzzo 4 days ago
Electricity: "Hello, I'm and electric"
Gas: "And I'm how he is created"
Seems like there is a big missing piece.
bsabruzzo 4 days ago
yes, but cars and phones are completely different things altogether.
fairyheli2 1 month ago
I'm sick and tired of these "vs." commercials. It's gotten to the point where it's unoriginal as heck.
HermitMongoose 1 month ago
Whoever thought the concept for this commercial was funny or though provoking was way off the mark.
2332Hunter 5 months ago
Refining a gallon of gasoline requires about 6 to 7.5kWh worth of energy. You could drive about 30 miles with an electric car with that alone. If the most analyses would take that into account, there would be no debate at all. Electric is just so much cleaner.
lupzter78 5 months ago
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@lupzter78 "Refining a gallon of gasoline requires about 6 to 7.5kWh worth of energy. You could drive about 30 miles with an electric car with that alone"
You can equate refining gas to using electricity. You must equate refining gas to producing electricity and burning gas to using electricity.
Apples to Apples.
"Electric is just so much cleaner"
Burning gas and Nat. gas to create electricity...
Apples to apples.
Now compare the wind powered electricity to sail powered cars.
Apples...
bsabruzzo 4 days ago
Where does the electric energy come from? Doesn't it come from burning coal and pumping stuff into the atmosphere, same as gas?
joshthecartoonguy 6 months ago
@joshthecartoonguy Even when powered by the current US grid, electric cars are still cleaner than even the cleanest gasoline cars. See our emission summary at pluginamerica org/images/EmissionsSummary pdf (replace spaces with .)
pluginamerica 6 months ago 5
@pluginamerica Two of those analyses found that America having all electric cars (while powered by coal) would decreace CO2 by 0%. The other ones claimed there would be a decrease of 17%-59%. So, best case scenario, electric cars' CO2 emissions would be 41% of gas'. Your own study admits the data is mixed on whether electric will decrease or increase pollutants. Maybe the next commercial should say "I'm electric I profit from destroying the planet too, but not quite as much as gas! . . . Maybe."
joshthecartoonguy 5 months ago
@joshthecartoonguy 41% would be less than half-- pretty big reduction. Your worst case scenario, all electricity coming from coal, isn't the case now and will only be less true in the future.
acceptgrace3 2 months ago
rc car motor attached to a cell phone, not cheap gas is like $20 per gallon
ice1200man 6 months ago
woah woah, whered he get my cell fone
hevyweps321 8 months ago
I hope Mitsubishi, Nissan and Renault paid you some royalties for using your great idea.
bgdexter 8 months ago
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Smart&Safe headphone conduct the sound from cell phone conversations and music through a hollow tube filled with air, without metal wires. This is scientifically proven to reduce the electromagnetic radiation reaching the user’s sensitive ear and brain area by up to 98%
SmartAndSafe 8 months ago
eletric cars where lounched in USA, when cell phones even wheren't used a lot.
but unfortunatly those cars where so good, that oil companies collected all cars and threw them away. as i know there is at least 1 left in some museum.
amfikz 8 months ago 2
I CAN'T HEAR YOU! CAN YOU REPEAT THAT?!?!
jtmjtm2001 8 months ago
Looks like this video was the inspiration for the newest Renault Z.E. advertisement that just came out. Unfortunately I can't seem to post the link here. Search for The electric life.
pilootdotcom 9 months ago
wow great video! i like the play on the mac vs pc commercials. hope you check out our plug in 100% electric vehicle videos sometime soon
GGTelectric1 9 months ago
great video. very funny play on the mac vs pc commercials. how you check out our videos of our plug in 100% electric cars
GGTelectric1 9 months ago
this is so stupid and unoriginal i want to vomit. try making up your own idea for a commercial and not blatantly ripping off apple.
Jnorrisclay 9 months ago
These people should be slapped in the head. I might be halfway willing to maybe consider possibly thinking for a second that electric cars aren't completely retarded if we would use nuclear power instead of redundant coal power. (Not that I have a problem with coal power other than it's more expensive than nuclear power)
Thatsinteresting 10 months ago
wow, so ilogical, i don't even know where to begin, what idiot designed this commercial? first gasoline powered engines don't emit that many fumes, second where do you think electricity comes from, do your research. third what do cell phones have to do whith cars?
quelt4 10 months ago
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Butchmedic 10 months ago
Enough with the iPhone spoofs already. Get your own idea.
unclebike 1 year ago 2
Ya'll didn't pay much for this ad... did you?
esreagan 1 year ago
Does no one realize that the world's electricity is fueled by fossil fuels? Unless you're charging the battery with a solar charger, it's no better.
MinecraftAce 1 year ago
@MinecraftAce Even when charged by the US's current grid (~50% coal powered), electric vehicles are still cleaner than a Prius. Your house uses more electricity than your electric car would. You should consider purchasing green power from your utility, so your house (and eventually car) can be powered by clean, renewable electricity.
giantquesadilla 1 year ago
@giantquesadilla Actually the US grid was around 45% coal as of last year.
JRP3 10 months ago
But electric cars are slow and they create more pollution than gas cars, and the batteries always end up in landfills right?
Oh, hang on, wrong.
bored1980 1 year ago
Great Advertisment but I resent the relation of Electric Cars to Apple Computers, being an EV enthusiast who is also a user of PC's. A better relation would be, carriages to horseless carriages, sail power to steamships, fax machines to email. All of these would be as Internal Combustion Engine Vehicles to pure Electric Traction vehicles.
YouCubed22 1 year ago
@YouCubed22 Except oh yeah they're slow and hideous.
Thatsinteresting 10 months ago
My hybrid's batteries are about 10 years old. My mileage has dropped. I'm getting about 60 mpg with a little over 200k miles on the Insight. Its paid for itself. Honda has been dragging its feet getting its BEV to market. While I'd love to get a Honda pure electric, I'm looking at a Nissan Leaf. I also live on the Great Lakes where we have wind powered electric cooperatives.
c33r0k33 1 year ago 2
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c33r0k33 1 year ago
In a street race, off the line, from a red light, like we all do, everyday, late for work. I'll take electric.
fearfullpeople 1 year ago 2
ok..thats just stupid..first off a nitro rc motor used for this puts out smoke you wont even see at those rpms
untill they figure out how to make batterys that are NOT harmfull to the enviroment to make all electric cars they are actualy 4x more harmfull to the enviroment to make i wont even get into the fact the cars are NOT bio degradeable
the footprint put on the planet by 1 so called "green" car is still worse than a FLEET of good restore a classic and come out ahead
Sh0rtlife 1 year ago
@Sh0rtlife Li-Ion batteries are not harmful to the environment; Lithium is non toxic. No cars (that I know of) are biodegradable, but Li-Ion batteries are 100% recyclable (when was the last time you recycled a gallon of gas).
Can you cite where you are getting the 4X more harmful number and the fleet of classic cars vs 1 new car numbers. I hadn't heard those statistics.
giantquesadilla 1 year ago 10
@Sh0rtlife Let's pretend that it is "actually 4x more harmful to the environment" to make battery cars. Now that the cars are made... what if the gasoline car is 8x more harmful to the environment to operate? We have to look at the whole picture to determine what is better or worse for the environment. Making the cars is just one part. I have no idea where you are getting your statistics, but after studying EVs for ten years, I've not run across anything relevant that supports your assertions.
darelldd 1 year ago 10
@Sh0rtlife Batteries aren't harmfull to the environment, lead acid and Nimh are but lithium can be dumped under current laws if you really want, but they will be recycled or used for other purposes
eldictator1 1 year ago
These videos are awesome!!!!
Nichen 1 year ago
Hilarious! Very funny video, keep them coming!
energynownews 1 year ago