MP3's even at a high bit rate don't compare to cd's. Compression has killed music quality IMHO and artist today are concerned more with the song being loud than having good clean dynamic range . As for vinyl I like the warm crisp sound of it too, but to say it's superior to digital in all cases is a stretch. It all comes down to the source material and how it was mixed. Taking a mono flat sounding song full of tape hiss and remastering it isn't always a bad thing.
The mp3 is compressed from the master in stereo with more Volume and is not played in open air.The 45 is uncompressed maybe even mono and it is played in a open room. So this test is not fair and full of sh$t.Most of you people need to see a ear doctor.Vinyl has a warmer bass (makes the hair of the back of your neck go up) and it has a more clear mid-range ( you can feel the Guitar being plucked as if you were there) but the highs suck. Mp3 has good sound over all but has no soul or presence.
@6262323 the highs suck with the wrong stylus. for years i used a conical stylus and thought "boy the highs are fucking garbled on vinyl". then i upgraded to an elliptical stylus and a far better cartridge and was blown away by how good the highs actually are. you need a stylus precise enough to read the whole groove - a basic conical won't do that
Guess what? The quality is slightly different, and I admit vinyl sounds better, but vinyl records skip and need a lot of care. Not that cds should be exposed to dust, but are much easier to care for and navigate the tracks
Wait, you're trying to prove that vinyl is superior by making us listen to a vinyl record... recorded by a computer... and then converted to a digital format, uploaded to youtube, and compressed accordingly?
I'm sorry, but your argument is invalid.
Don't get me wrong, i do love my vinyl records, but... this just makes the logic-interpreting portion of my brain hurt. :(
The sound that we hear on the Vinyl is digital too. Every video on youtube has digital soung, the analog original sound has has to pass trough a digitalization process made by a codec that could be lossy (MP3, AAc, WMA, OGG) or lossless (FLAC, WAV). But anyway, for streaming purposes and efficacity of the transmission, it is lossy codecs that are used and at a very low bitrate (48kbps or 64kbps) so quality is bad in any circumstances, and that example is mistaken.
Producers produce music to sound the best on the equipment of the day. This isn't an analog vs digital issue to my ears as much as a modern mix. If you remastered the old tracks using new analog equipment, it would sound closer to the digital version than the old 4 track mix. This is a shite mix by the way, too much separation.
Everything on YouTube is basically mp3 or wav(sampled), so analog vs digital has more to do with the recording process.
I don't know.. I prefer the digital version, sounds more refined and clean, the higher pitches pop out.... I'm an audiophile and I can promise vinyl does sound better in real life but in this example I think it fails... let's not forget SACD's are pretty crisp too.
IMO MP3's are okay for listening at a low volume BUT if you turn up the music to a high volume, people will discover that the music file is full of holes. MP3's are clearly inferior to vinyl records.
All that prooves is the signal strength was too high on the digital remaster unless you did it, so there are alot of idiots in the record industry. The original recording on reel to reel of this was a piece of shit recording anyway, but then again its such a shit song who cares.
Decent music luckily is mastered digitally by people who know what they are doing like Pink Floyd.
You fucking dumb ass, not only is CD vastly superior to vinyl (which anyone with an oz of common sense will realise), on youtube it is automatically converted to digital so it's not an analogue recording anymore.
CD is superior to vinyl in every way - you'll just have to live with it. I'm presuming from your false logic that you simply don't wish to part with your large record collection.
I already did a Digitals vs Vinyl thing at home, and It's really noticible, here it isn't because you have the mp3 at it's best, while vinyl here depends on the quality of your camera, I'd say, Do it again, but recording your mp3 one with a camera too.
- Both are digital. Anything played over the internet is digital.
- The record is noisy. So it should not be used for the comparison. No two records sound the same. Use a well made Parlophone pressing.
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Other:
- Was the record cleaned?
- What is the associated gear? Digital players can vary wildly in sound quality. The same is true for turntables, cartridges, tonearms, and phono stages.
Pointless video!You say you don't own the video with the record spinning. So you can't compare the two different formats with this video as they were recorded with two different recorders. Sound recording equipment can make a big different to sound as can, the sound system the vinyl is playing from, (needles, turntable, amp, speakers used). Mp3's also have different levels of quality, depending on where the mp3 was recorded from, sample rate, bit rate, etc then you have wav even better quality.
I seriously hate these pretentious fuckers that say vinyl is just worlds ahead of MP3 and the quality is light years better. Dude, there is literally no fucking difference. I'm an avid music head who appreciates such a wide variety of music as well as a jazz musician myself. I have an incredible ear for detail and can name any pitch based off sound. However, I can tell little to NO difference between the two formats. People completely exaggerate these claims and just look like ostentatious cocks
Mp3's are ok, but it;s pretty much obselete. also it's hard to notice any difference since Youtube compresses the audio into 64 kbps I think, which is shite. mp3 has to die eventually, you won't last 18 more years!! in conclusion: Vinyl is best, Cd's are solid, lossless formats like FLAC are good, and mp3 goes into the waste bin since it's a wannabe replica of the original recording, meh, it's still convinient for ipods and blah.
yes here it's all digital, but in this video sound better mp3 cuz you have recorded the vinyl audio with camera mic! -.- i think that vinyl is the best but u have to record it good! and also the analog have to be listen in analog, with a special format named "our ears" ;)
But youtube is digital! The only way to tell the difference is to actually be there! but yeah, vinyl is far superior to digital. I mean the music is right there,in the vinyl, physically etched in to the record! To me, buying a record is like actually taking the band home with you and have them play in you'r living room! You just can't beat that. CDs are for hearing the music,vinyl is for listening to the music.
@morrismagic08 yes, because sound is mechanical. The CD PCM WAV coding protocol chops the sounds, so you lose all the precious ripple (the harmonics, higher frequencies giving detail to lower sounds even in the bass) necessary to reproduce the sound properly. Even CDs nowadays are cheaper-made, considering the invasion of amateurs in the music business. Don't burn your master with your computer. In the 80s, advantages of CD were portability and lower need of care: marketing used other arguments
Here's the deal: People who only give a shit about the most popular thing at the moment and listen to nothing else have no need for vinyl. They don't care about the music in general. They care about the image - and once that music is no longer popular they'll toss it aside like it's a piece of garbage. People who really care about the music and the sound quality they're getting - they buy vinyl.
@NeoTStyle What the fuck is your problem? If you don't agree with me, that's fine, I don't give a shit, but you don't have to act like a complete fucking asshole.
@NeoTStyle What makes my opinion retarded? The fact that you don't agree with it? I already said I don't give a shit if you disagree with me. I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is that you choose to just throw around insults instead of acting like an adult and offering your counter argument and having a civil debate.
He's saying that people who listen to Mp3s are plebeians who only listen to popular mainstream tripe, and that people who listen to vinyl are the ones that are sophisticated and really care about the music
If you don't see what's wrong with this statement then you're just as retarded as him tbh.
@NeoTStyle No, that's not what I said. Re-read the comment again. I said that people who only listen to something because it's popular have no need for vinyl which is why vinyl will in no way become a dominant format for music again. At no point did I categorize all people who listen to Mp3s as "plebeians who only listen to popular mainstream tripe". You went an twisted my words.
@NeoTStyle You have a case of what as known as "selective hearing", meaning that you take a person's words and twist them into your own definition. For example: a person says "I think that mystery book we had to read for English class was so dumb". Then you turn around and say "He said that mystery books are dumb and anybody that reads mystery books is an idiot!"
@JandBMan312 You make a good point here. I'll be turning 26 years old next month and I still go out and purchase CDs. I also have a growing vinyl collection that I refuse to part with. I don't currently have a turntable though :-( If CDs are discontinued in the near future, I sure hope there will be placed online where I can download LOSSLESS music files. MP3 is a format that is primarily concerned with convenience, not audio fidelity. I'll listen to MP3s on my iPod but nothing else.
There would be a noticeable difference in sound quality if one was to hook up a high-end turntable and a high end cd player to a really good stereo andthen do the comparisons. The 45 version will clearly lose because the treble and bass sounds on vinyl just could not hold and reproduce what's supposed to be there. Some of the sound differences IS that the 45 is mono and the CD is stereo. The CD sounded too tinny and the 45 too muffled. Neither one won, in my book, based on what the video has.
I certainly agree that vinyl is the superior format, but this video does a terrible job of making this point. First, you're comparing the original to a remaster, which makes any assessment of the comparative sound completely pointless (it sounds different because it IS different), then you are converting analogue sound to a digital format, immediately losing anything gained from analogue. And then you upload it to youtube, which has super-terrible audio compression, which ruins both audio files!
@ygoroliveira Make a photocopy of a document, photocopy it again... What happens? The first photocopy looks better than it's copy, even if the whole process is digitized. Your argument is not complete.
@kerebaka It's not an argument, it's just the truth. Once you convert an analogic source to digital, you loose information. That's it. And no, the photocopy process is not all digital. There is no digital paper, @kerebaka.
@ygoroliveira and I agree with you, it's better to hear the difference where it plays. But when you re-digitize the sound, it gets poorer (because it's twice-chopped) than the real mechanical sound from a Long-Play then compressed (less than the first source)...
@ygoroliveira They will if they have ears. The problem with cd's are not that they are digital, it's that they are overcompressed and clipped now days. The main problem is the mastering process, not the medium. 80's cd's sound great.
Vinyl rips can be done at higher bit and sample rates than cd's, and sound way better.
brilliant, could you do this with lollipop-chordettes please because i hear that song on vinyl so much and it would be interesting to hear the difference
Analog vs Digital is like the difference between playing a guitar through a vintage tube amp or a solid state amp. Analog is clearly warmer, like the tubes amps of the past. The current '09 CD remasters are much better though and have (almost) closed the gap
I love vinyl but you picked an already low quality song and compared a miced recording to a recording of a direct line feed. The difference will NOT be heard correctly at all.
Obviously we can't hear how vinyl really sounds, because Youtube videos are in digital format. We can hear the difference though. Compressed DC music is horrible.
@JustAFocus Not NOW. But at the time those were recorded AND when you edited the video AND the quality of the sound equipment. Don't get me wrong, I prefer vinyl but I don't think there is as big a difference as you portrayed.
I've often thought that this may be part of the reason that I find much of modern music so grating and annoying. Even this classic song sounds harsh and grating on digital. Also if I look at the waveforms of my old vinyl records vs. almost any modern pop/rock release, it's a matter of a medium-gained recording with nuances compared to an absolute WALL of sound. It literally looks like a solid wall. So it sounds annoying. Well, that and the fact that most new music just plain sucks anyway.
I actually CAN hear a difference, and the vinyl sounds way more pleasant. The digital version sounds very tinny and even a little distorted. The reason vinyl/analogue mediums are better quality is because with a digital recording, only so much audio information is stored per second, which is known as the "bitrate". So any audio information in between is lost on an MP3, whereas on vinyl, it records/plays EVERYTHING.
Unless you have an Audiophile quality sound setup you won't be able to tell the difference between a high quality lossy (e.g. MP3) file and CD/FLAC. Any difference you think you can hear on your crappy iPod dock or PC speakers is psychological. Most people ranting on a about FLAC/lossless just want to feel superior. A Vinyl will probably sound different anyway, because it has a 'warmer' sound generally, plus a CD copy (and thus MP3) copy will likely (& should) be mastered differently.
@robertruizjr100 well I thinh that the vinyl is better but you took the audio from WABC77 , and I think he has problem with splatter an sibilance with that stantoon cartridge that he is using
@spencerphreak true, unless he grabs a 200 gram record to compare the high quality mp3 to. For me mp3 is more portable, but records just sound warmer and fuller, if that makes sense.
@netando yeah it does. It will also depend on how the source of the MP3 was made, most likely from a CD. The best comparison would be a modern recording, going out directly to vinyl and CD and high-quality MP3, then compare those directly.
Ok, MP3 sounds better. Thanks. And even for a better sound, you have to go with Apple Lossless. A M A Z I NG. That + B&W (Bowers & Wilkins) is the closest you'll get to music sex. Simply amazing. Anyone agree..thumbs up.
Even a mono vinyl single sounds better than a ripped stereo mp3. That is what i found out after listening. Make this compare in 10 years i will wounder if the mp3 will still work. The vinyl will work for another 50 years if you take care of it.
Your Vinyl sample from WABC77's 45 was a AM MONO radio play version, intentionally mixed for low bandwidth play on AM radio, not a fair comparison to a STEREO MP3 (poorly ripped as it was)..
doesn't matter the bitrate, the point is, vinyl sounds warmer/more natural/more real BECAUSE 1. the "SAMPLE RATE" is in REAL TIME, 2. the wave form is un-natural and sounds harsh to the human ear because of the shape of the waveform, and 3. what's the matter with you, can't you tell it's better!!??
So there, I said it, I believe it, and that settles it.
The vinyl is an original MONO recording. Your mp3 is remixed in STEREO. Apples and oranges right there. There is terrible artifacting in the mp3. If you can't hear that, you shouldn't be gouging these things. The record sounds better, and it's all irrelevant because youtube audio is digitized and compressed just like mp3, so it's all oranges anyway.
Vinyl always wins, but it´s hard to realise that through my computer. But on my hifi it´s another story... digital has no soul when you´re used to analogue
good, mp3 may be the best for the human ear but some sounds you can't hear you can feel via bass etc... and then i don't choose MP3 listen to HIFI very loudly and you get the difference.
Also i hate this remasterings. It is only destroying the old tune.... and it is sold with 'better quality' they say. It's just the effects they put on that make it may sound better but not better in quality way.
I don't care if MP3's and CD's are better than a vinyl in terms of sound. Nothing will beat having a huge album cover, and that sensation of "Putting the needle on it."
My turntable had a moving coil cartridge and it sounds ALOT better than digital mp3. For some reason the mp3 can't deliver the fluid transparent sound with a higher end like the vinyl, but remember the mp3 is fairly young in comparing with the turn table. I'm sure that somkind of research is going on with the mp3 to deliver the warmth sound of the vinyl. Mabe in 20 years or so this problem will be solved.
all that being said, the vinyl clearly has the better mastering. the bass is tighter and the mids are correctly EQ'd giving it what people call the "warm" sound. The CD has some obnoxious treble boost and the way the bass is EQd is absolutely hilarious.
"analog" vs. "digital" is mostly a distraction from the real issue. what matters most is the MASTERING. sure, analog has its advantages just like digital does. the fact that its on vinyl is not what makes it sound better, it's the coincidence that most vinyls have better mastering: better EQ, no compression/clipping/excessive hard limiting, etc.
proper and easy way to prove LP is superior format to CD is find a really good pressing for the lP and use same recording on CD with good CD mastering.
THEN using high end LP playback gear as well as high end CD gear, Do the
AB comparison. LP will win the "which sounds more real" contest every time.
@hifisapi what if the CD has a better mastering than the vinyl? Like almost any of the Audio Fidelity remaster CDs? then in those cases, CD slaughters vinyl. You can't say vinyl is better just because it typically has the better mastering most of the time.
I own many Beatles original 1st edition Records and other artists and I also have ever Beatles song on MP3 for itunes. I can tell you one thing, MP3 may be easier to handle but Vinyl sounds way more rich. Unless you find one all scratched up and or dusty. Just clean the dust off if that is the problem and it is a beauty. I should puts some vids of my Beatles Records on youtube.
I do personally agree that vinyl sounds better than digital, but the 45 RPM you're using sounds monophonic, whereas the mp3 is stereophonic. Try using a stereo vinyl version of "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" and then see how it sounds. It should REALLY knock the socks off of the digital then.
@ftbnubs123 I agree.The vinyl is in mono no question the vinyl is the closest to the orig format being it was on a tape then transferd to vinyl i guess cd is handy and the mp3 but if you own a sony walkman with a metal tape.Then your talikin my kinda sound.
My favorite music hobby is converting my mother's old vinyl records to CD and MP3. I always reduce the volume of the pops and clicks while maintaining the analog warmth in my digital conversions. The software that I always use to convert my mother's old vinyl records to CD and MP3 is Roxio LP and Tape Assistant, which is included in Roxio Easy VHS to DVD.
@looneytunesfreak u cant retain vinyl warmth in mp3, its imposable. the reason u get the warmth is because the frequency range is much broader than mp3
@Robot0Ninja thats not true. mp3 has a frequency response that excedes the capacity of human hearing. the reason mp3 sucks is because its a lossy codec
@mechanicaloverload mp3 has a 20 Hz to 20,000Hz frequency range at best, and thats only if u rip it at a bit rate of 1411 kbps, though most are at 160 kbps which has a 20Hz to 17,000Hz frequency range. the human ear of a young person has a frequency range of 20Hz to 20,000Hz. and more young people listen to mp3 because studies show younger people tend to illegally download songs, usually a 160 kbps bit rate mp3. mp3 exceeds human frequnecy response at older ages who listen to actual cds, usually
@Robot0Ninja thats not entirely true. the frequency range of mp3 is 20 to 22050 Hz and this holds for 320 kpbs. But you are correct that at the lower bitrates, the frequency response is reduced at higher frequencies, but there is typically no information present in music above 17kHz anyway. This is especially true on most vinyl records.
The analog has a more faithful reproduction, wider frequency range! You barely hear the instruments on that mp3!! Only screechy pumped up treble voice.
though I totally 100% prefer vinyl over an MP3 at any given day,I hate to say this test is far from an accurate comparison. You need to record them on the same recording medium and play back at the same perceptive loudness. Comparing it with a video that is shot somewhere else with an amplifier in between vs a very low bitrate MP3 (and not mentioning the rate either) will give too much biased results.
At least compare a mono 45 to an mp3 track that is in mono next time.
utterlysimple 2 days ago
I vinyl is in mono, but even so, I like it better.
davidst489 3 days ago
MP3's even at a high bit rate don't compare to cd's. Compression has killed music quality IMHO and artist today are concerned more with the song being loud than having good clean dynamic range . As for vinyl I like the warm crisp sound of it too, but to say it's superior to digital in all cases is a stretch. It all comes down to the source material and how it was mixed. Taking a mono flat sounding song full of tape hiss and remastering it isn't always a bad thing.
billybassman21 3 weeks ago
@billybassman21 who cares? you're missing the point in music! enjoy it and stop being a complete tool!
djstarscream 3 weeks ago
and is it me or is the vinyl the mono mix?
guitarbassdrumsetc 3 weeks ago
How can you make a decision based on a shit quality YouTube video?
underthenorthernstar 1 month ago
The mp3 is compressed from the master in stereo with more Volume and is not played in open air.The 45 is uncompressed maybe even mono and it is played in a open room. So this test is not fair and full of sh$t.Most of you people need to see a ear doctor.Vinyl has a warmer bass (makes the hair of the back of your neck go up) and it has a more clear mid-range ( you can feel the Guitar being plucked as if you were there) but the highs suck. Mp3 has good sound over all but has no soul or presence.
6262323 1 month ago
@6262323 the highs suck with the wrong stylus. for years i used a conical stylus and thought "boy the highs are fucking garbled on vinyl". then i upgraded to an elliptical stylus and a far better cartridge and was blown away by how good the highs actually are. you need a stylus precise enough to read the whole groove - a basic conical won't do that
newfuckingwave 1 week ago
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6262323 1 month ago
Guess what? The quality is slightly different, and I admit vinyl sounds better, but vinyl records skip and need a lot of care. Not that cds should be exposed to dust, but are much easier to care for and navigate the tracks
HuntertheHacker 2 months ago
Oh my God the record sounds way better than the mp3! The mp3 sounds like warmed over dog sh*T!!!!
Sc0teeBe318 2 months ago
Wait, you're trying to prove that vinyl is superior by making us listen to a vinyl record... recorded by a computer... and then converted to a digital format, uploaded to youtube, and compressed accordingly?
I'm sorry, but your argument is invalid.
Don't get me wrong, i do love my vinyl records, but... this just makes the logic-interpreting portion of my brain hurt. :(
minivanmegafun 2 months ago 3
The sound that we hear on the Vinyl is digital too. Every video on youtube has digital soung, the analog original sound has has to pass trough a digitalization process made by a codec that could be lossy (MP3, AAc, WMA, OGG) or lossless (FLAC, WAV). But anyway, for streaming purposes and efficacity of the transmission, it is lossy codecs that are used and at a very low bitrate (48kbps or 64kbps) so quality is bad in any circumstances, and that example is mistaken.
Estiedegangdelaids 2 months ago
vinyl is more fun to play
beatlesnut007 2 months ago
Producers produce music to sound the best on the equipment of the day. This isn't an analog vs digital issue to my ears as much as a modern mix. If you remastered the old tracks using new analog equipment, it would sound closer to the digital version than the old 4 track mix. This is a shite mix by the way, too much separation.
Everything on YouTube is basically mp3 or wav(sampled), so analog vs digital has more to do with the recording process.
crimsontidercom 2 months ago
I don't know.. I prefer the digital version, sounds more refined and clean, the higher pitches pop out.... I'm an audiophile and I can promise vinyl does sound better in real life but in this example I think it fails... let's not forget SACD's are pretty crisp too.
vaughanweather 3 months ago
Vinyl has shitty distortion, fags call it "warmth"
kirbienstien 3 months ago
@kirbienstien ...10 years old ?
thenoti1 3 months ago
As much as I love vinyl, it sounds like such a chore making sure the quality is good and all.
BiIk0n11 3 months ago
@BiIk0n11 Just shut up little boy, you are an ignorant fool.
Corrupt5358 3 months ago
@Corrupt5358 You have yet to back it up.I think you are the little boy, to the person who uploads Lazy Town videos. Shut the fuck up and die.
BiIk0n11 3 months ago
IMO MP3's are okay for listening at a low volume BUT if you turn up the music to a high volume, people will discover that the music file is full of holes. MP3's are clearly inferior to vinyl records.
MegaTmarshall 3 months ago
All that prooves is the signal strength was too high on the digital remaster unless you did it, so there are alot of idiots in the record industry. The original recording on reel to reel of this was a piece of shit recording anyway, but then again its such a shit song who cares.
Decent music luckily is mastered digitally by people who know what they are doing like Pink Floyd.
Corrupt5358 3 months ago
@Corrupt5358 I don't even know where it would be possible to start with you.
joethulhuz 2 months ago
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You fucking dumb ass, not only is CD vastly superior to vinyl (which anyone with an oz of common sense will realise), on youtube it is automatically converted to digital so it's not an analogue recording anymore.
CD is superior to vinyl in every way - you'll just have to live with it. I'm presuming from your false logic that you simply don't wish to part with your large record collection.
Grow up!
Corrupt5358 3 months ago
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Corrupt5358 3 months ago
It's pretty much the same reason guitarists prefer to record with a tube amp as opposed to a solid state.
Super2ube 3 months ago
I already did a Digitals vs Vinyl thing at home, and It's really noticible, here it isn't because you have the mp3 at it's best, while vinyl here depends on the quality of your camera, I'd say, Do it again, but recording your mp3 one with a camera too.
lirfrank 3 months ago
I wish my surface noise ridden 45 was as good as this one! Thanks.
martyw34 3 months ago
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Nobody will notice any difference, everything here is digital. - and crap
MrFactoryworker 3 months ago
Well, using MONO turntable (or record) will definitely sound worse than stereo CD - that's the main difference I hear.
Parkinson9999 3 months ago
the fact of Record a Youtube Video, make the audio from the vinyl a digital track.
so, the Past Masters are , Make of the ORIGINAL MASTERS track of the beatles and RE-Mastered .
Feloleal 3 months ago
Conclusions:
- Both songs uploaded with serious distortion.
- Both are digital. Anything played over the internet is digital.
- The record is noisy. So it should not be used for the comparison. No two records sound the same. Use a well made Parlophone pressing.
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Other:
- Was the record cleaned?
- What is the associated gear? Digital players can vary wildly in sound quality. The same is true for turntables, cartridges, tonearms, and phono stages.
NoEgg4u 3 months ago 7
wtf y did u record vinyl in mono? totally useless vid
djpio707 3 months ago
vinyl all the way for me....
MrDemilord 3 months ago
if you are real listener i think you will know VINYL IS THE BEST ...ANALOG IS THE BEST TOO
MadokaCatty 3 months ago
This is beyond retarded. The vinyl one is in mono and the mp3 is in stereo!
TheJonnyMidnight 4 months ago
Pointless video!You say you don't own the video with the record spinning. So you can't compare the two different formats with this video as they were recorded with two different recorders. Sound recording equipment can make a big different to sound as can, the sound system the vinyl is playing from, (needles, turntable, amp, speakers used). Mp3's also have different levels of quality, depending on where the mp3 was recorded from, sample rate, bit rate, etc then you have wav even better quality.
TheOriginalChill 4 months ago
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PAMAROSHOUSE 4 months ago
I seriously hate these pretentious fuckers that say vinyl is just worlds ahead of MP3 and the quality is light years better. Dude, there is literally no fucking difference. I'm an avid music head who appreciates such a wide variety of music as well as a jazz musician myself. I have an incredible ear for detail and can name any pitch based off sound. However, I can tell little to NO difference between the two formats. People completely exaggerate these claims and just look like ostentatious cocks
Cornbreadddd 4 months ago
@Cornbreadddd if cou can't tell the difference between vinyl and mp3, you are deaf :/
kainthevampireduck 3 months ago
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Cornbreadddd 4 months ago
Mp3's are ok, but it;s pretty much obselete. also it's hard to notice any difference since Youtube compresses the audio into 64 kbps I think, which is shite. mp3 has to die eventually, you won't last 18 more years!! in conclusion: Vinyl is best, Cd's are solid, lossless formats like FLAC are good, and mp3 goes into the waste bin since it's a wannabe replica of the original recording, meh, it's still convinient for ipods and blah.
Weareonenation303 4 months ago
yes here it's all digital, but in this video sound better mp3 cuz you have recorded the vinyl audio with camera mic! -.- i think that vinyl is the best but u have to record it good! and also the analog have to be listen in analog, with a special format named "our ears" ;)
Orlas92 4 months ago
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Orlas92 4 months ago
But youtube is digital! The only way to tell the difference is to actually be there! but yeah, vinyl is far superior to digital. I mean the music is right there,in the vinyl, physically etched in to the record! To me, buying a record is like actually taking the band home with you and have them play in you'r living room! You just can't beat that. CDs are for hearing the music,vinyl is for listening to the music.
morrismagic08 5 months ago
@morrismagic08 yes, because sound is mechanical. The CD PCM WAV coding protocol chops the sounds, so you lose all the precious ripple (the harmonics, higher frequencies giving detail to lower sounds even in the bass) necessary to reproduce the sound properly. Even CDs nowadays are cheaper-made, considering the invasion of amateurs in the music business. Don't burn your master with your computer. In the 80s, advantages of CD were portability and lower need of care: marketing used other arguments
kerebaka 3 months ago
Viva la vinyl
h879xx 5 months ago
Here's the deal: People who only give a shit about the most popular thing at the moment and listen to nothing else have no need for vinyl. They don't care about the music in general. They care about the image - and once that music is no longer popular they'll toss it aside like it's a piece of garbage. People who really care about the music and the sound quality they're getting - they buy vinyl.
JandBMan312 5 months ago 22
@JandBMan312
Yeah that's actually completely wrong you stupid cunt.
NeoTStyle 3 months ago
@NeoTStyle What the fuck is your problem? If you don't agree with me, that's fine, I don't give a shit, but you don't have to act like a complete fucking asshole.
JandBMan312 2 months ago
@JandBMan312
If you're gonna voice your retarded opinion then be ready for someone to call you out on it.
NeoTStyle 2 months ago
@NeoTStyle What makes my opinion retarded? The fact that you don't agree with it? I already said I don't give a shit if you disagree with me. I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is that you choose to just throw around insults instead of acting like an adult and offering your counter argument and having a civil debate.
JandBMan312 2 months ago
@NeoTStyle In what possible way is he wrong? I really don't understand how ANY small section of his comment varies in any way from the exact truth.
joethulhuz 2 months ago
@joethulhuz
He's saying that people who listen to Mp3s are plebeians who only listen to popular mainstream tripe, and that people who listen to vinyl are the ones that are sophisticated and really care about the music
If you don't see what's wrong with this statement then you're just as retarded as him tbh.
NeoTStyle 2 months ago
@NeoTStyle I'm not an idiot, I read it. He's generalizing, and I think pretty much anyone could agree with that generalization. It's not definitive.
joethulhuz 2 months ago
@NeoTStyle No, that's not what I said. Re-read the comment again. I said that people who only listen to something because it's popular have no need for vinyl which is why vinyl will in no way become a dominant format for music again. At no point did I categorize all people who listen to Mp3s as "plebeians who only listen to popular mainstream tripe". You went an twisted my words.
JandBMan312 2 months ago
@NeoTStyle You have a case of what as known as "selective hearing", meaning that you take a person's words and twist them into your own definition. For example: a person says "I think that mystery book we had to read for English class was so dumb". Then you turn around and say "He said that mystery books are dumb and anybody that reads mystery books is an idiot!"
JandBMan312 2 months ago
@JandBMan312 so true
Reid52 3 months ago
@JandBMan312 You make a good point here. I'll be turning 26 years old next month and I still go out and purchase CDs. I also have a growing vinyl collection that I refuse to part with. I don't currently have a turntable though :-( If CDs are discontinued in the near future, I sure hope there will be placed online where I can download LOSSLESS music files. MP3 is a format that is primarily concerned with convenience, not audio fidelity. I'll listen to MP3s on my iPod but nothing else.
revokdaryl1 2 months ago
@JandBMan312 the most popular thing is vinyl ;_;
I don't have a record player or any vinyl records, but I wish I had.
And now your comment made me think. Do I really want vinyl? Isn't the music itself the most important?
nge1301 1 month ago
There would be a noticeable difference in sound quality if one was to hook up a high-end turntable and a high end cd player to a really good stereo andthen do the comparisons. The 45 version will clearly lose because the treble and bass sounds on vinyl just could not hold and reproduce what's supposed to be there. Some of the sound differences IS that the 45 is mono and the CD is stereo. The CD sounded too tinny and the 45 too muffled. Neither one won, in my book, based on what the video has.
ladero1954 5 months ago
I certainly agree that vinyl is the superior format, but this video does a terrible job of making this point. First, you're comparing the original to a remaster, which makes any assessment of the comparative sound completely pointless (it sounds different because it IS different), then you are converting analogue sound to a digital format, immediately losing anything gained from analogue. And then you upload it to youtube, which has super-terrible audio compression, which ruins both audio files!
mattresssurveyor 5 months ago
Nobody will notice any difference, everything here is digital.
ygoroliveira 6 months ago 51
@ygoroliveira
Right. In this video, the MP3 sounds better than the vinyl.
Alantgv 4 months ago
@ygoroliveira Make a photocopy of a document, photocopy it again... What happens? The first photocopy looks better than it's copy, even if the whole process is digitized. Your argument is not complete.
kerebaka 3 months ago
@kerebaka It's not an argument, it's just the truth. Once you convert an analogic source to digital, you loose information. That's it. And no, the photocopy process is not all digital. There is no digital paper, @kerebaka.
ygoroliveira 3 months ago
@ygoroliveira the sound is no longer digital when it comes to your ears, there is no digital air...
kerebaka 3 months ago
@ygoroliveira and I agree with you, it's better to hear the difference where it plays. But when you re-digitize the sound, it gets poorer (because it's twice-chopped) than the real mechanical sound from a Long-Play then compressed (less than the first source)...
kerebaka 3 months ago
@ygoroliveira They will if they have ears. The problem with cd's are not that they are digital, it's that they are overcompressed and clipped now days. The main problem is the mastering process, not the medium. 80's cd's sound great.
Vinyl rips can be done at higher bit and sample rates than cd's, and sound way better.
JoeyDrunko 2 months ago
brilliant, could you do this with lollipop-chordettes please because i hear that song on vinyl so much and it would be interesting to hear the difference
TheJuicyfruitx 6 months ago
fuck you nigger vinyl is the best
suhrtz 6 months ago
Analog vs Digital is like the difference between playing a guitar through a vintage tube amp or a solid state amp. Analog is clearly warmer, like the tubes amps of the past. The current '09 CD remasters are much better though and have (almost) closed the gap
vegavairbob 6 months ago
you are an idoit please kill yourself
Biotoasts 6 months ago
mp3 wins
TheMichael408 6 months ago
I love vinyl but you picked an already low quality song and compared a miced recording to a recording of a direct line feed. The difference will NOT be heard correctly at all.
immadodgeguy 7 months ago
Obviously we can't hear how vinyl really sounds, because Youtube videos are in digital format. We can hear the difference though. Compressed DC music is horrible.
Taaplari 7 months ago
All those digital remasters usually suck. BTW, that 45 is in mono, so wtf...
hytlerson 7 months ago
How can you tell if we're listening on DIGITAL. We need to be there and hear the vinyl LIVE, as it is.
princepersia1 7 months ago
>You don't know anything about equalizers do you?
Chubtoaster 7 months ago
@Chubtoaster No amount of equalizer fiddling will fix brick wall DRC.
JustAFocus 7 months ago
@JustAFocus Not NOW. But at the time those were recorded AND when you edited the video AND the quality of the sound equipment. Don't get me wrong, I prefer vinyl but I don't think there is as big a difference as you portrayed.
Chubtoaster 7 months ago
@Chubtoaster Sorry, not really getting your point at all.
JustAFocus 7 months ago
I've often thought that this may be part of the reason that I find much of modern music so grating and annoying. Even this classic song sounds harsh and grating on digital. Also if I look at the waveforms of my old vinyl records vs. almost any modern pop/rock release, it's a matter of a medium-gained recording with nuances compared to an absolute WALL of sound. It literally looks like a solid wall. So it sounds annoying. Well, that and the fact that most new music just plain sucks anyway.
JustAFocus 7 months ago
the vinyl is perfect. the balance between the left and right speakers is off with the mp3.
mrbetamax95 7 months ago
as an sound tech I can hear the goods on both. The highs sound nicer on mp3
mainly vocals, but vinyl has the superior low and mid range.
pabdrummer 7 months ago
@pabdrummer I bet on a rega p3 or higher audiophile table the highs would be as good or better.
Crushstation 7 months ago
@pabdrummer more than likely
pabdrummer 7 months ago
I actually CAN hear a difference, and the vinyl sounds way more pleasant. The digital version sounds very tinny and even a little distorted. The reason vinyl/analogue mediums are better quality is because with a digital recording, only so much audio information is stored per second, which is known as the "bitrate". So any audio information in between is lost on an MP3, whereas on vinyl, it records/plays EVERYTHING.
Matrix803 8 months ago
vinyls are epic! CDs are terrible! the Beatles are AWESOM!!!
tbakersapphire 8 months ago
vinyls are epic! CDs are terrible!
tbakersapphire 8 months ago
Unless you have an Audiophile quality sound setup you won't be able to tell the difference between a high quality lossy (e.g. MP3) file and CD/FLAC. Any difference you think you can hear on your crappy iPod dock or PC speakers is psychological. Most people ranting on a about FLAC/lossless just want to feel superior. A Vinyl will probably sound different anyway, because it has a 'warmer' sound generally, plus a CD copy (and thus MP3) copy will likely (& should) be mastered differently.
FudgeCube 8 months ago
sorry ...then tell me...
diegolagos33 8 months ago
la unica diferencia es el uso de un buen ecualizador en el vinilo lo que superara el formato digital sin duda
diegolagos33 8 months ago
Please ...use a equalizer from the vinyl and the tell me!!
diegolagos33 8 months ago
lossless digital music > all analog formats
0neofthem 9 months ago
@0neofthem You're an ass.
koalanuggets45 8 months ago
@koalanuggets45 dont have better things to do moron?
0neofthem 8 months ago
@0neofthem not at all
koalanuggets45 8 months ago
@koalanuggets45 I concur. Good quality vinyl> "lossless" digital format.
fabers92 8 months ago
@fabers92 thank you
because we all know that there's really no such thing as lossless
then it would be analog by definition
koalanuggets45 8 months ago
@koalanuggets45 Precisely, Mr nuggets.
fabers92 8 months ago
vinyl sounds best tbh
BillieJean900 9 months ago
Vinyl is the BEST!
Vitrax98 9 months ago
By the way, the sound in this video was encoded to mp3...
colter13 9 months ago
@robertruizjr100 well I thinh that the vinyl is better but you took the audio from WABC77 , and I think he has problem with splatter an sibilance with that stantoon cartridge that he is using
MrAlexprm 9 months ago
well now you're comparing a good vinyl with a crappy MP3. Try a good quality MP3 at a large rate, and it will sound a lot better.
spencerphreak 9 months ago
@spencerphreak true, unless he grabs a 200 gram record to compare the high quality mp3 to. For me mp3 is more portable, but records just sound warmer and fuller, if that makes sense.
netando 9 months ago
@netando yeah it does. It will also depend on how the source of the MP3 was made, most likely from a CD. The best comparison would be a modern recording, going out directly to vinyl and CD and high-quality MP3, then compare those directly.
spencerphreak 9 months ago
I like cassettes or 8 track tape sound
stripes5150 9 months ago
You can still notice that vinyl is better, even through a computer
Siany71 10 months ago
@Siany71 You are correct. You can still notice, actually pretty easily, that Vinyl is a better format than MP3.
Lockemeister 9 months ago
The guys who think MP3 sounds better than FLAC, CD or even vinyl must have ear defect.
VikkiFixx 10 months ago
Stupidest video ever?
liampdc 11 months ago
Ok, MP3 sounds better. Thanks. And even for a better sound, you have to go with Apple Lossless. A M A Z I NG. That + B&W (Bowers & Wilkins) is the closest you'll get to music sex. Simply amazing. Anyone agree..thumbs up.
LeakedFiles101 11 months ago
I liked the MP3 version more.
GranKnight87 1 year ago
Even a mono vinyl single sounds better than a ripped stereo mp3. That is what i found out after listening. Make this compare in 10 years i will wounder if the mp3 will still work. The vinyl will work for another 50 years if you take care of it.
frusty62 1 year ago
You convinced me that vinyl sounds like shit and it's for losers that are stuck in the 70s. thanks.
pornojack 1 year ago
i hated nthat i had to go cd i am glad vinyl is making a come back i will never part with my vinyl
perryclouse1 1 year ago
It is very apparent when the two formats are mixed that digital is like a harsh whip to the human ears, while vinyl a sexual caress. Vinyl 4ever!
1kydde2 1 year ago
VINYL WINS
ADKIc3mAnX36O 1 year ago
holy shit there's a huge difference. Vinyl all the way baby
tdcollector 1 year ago
Your Vinyl sample from WABC77's 45 was a AM MONO radio play version, intentionally mixed for low bandwidth play on AM radio, not a fair comparison to a STEREO MP3 (poorly ripped as it was)..
olddisneylandtickets 1 year ago
A digital remaster of the vinyl at a low bitrate wont sound better of fucking course. Recent music sounds no different on vinyl or cd.
sneaker177 1 year ago
Doesn't matter @ all.
This is digital and youtube made it sound worse.
shadowoflightvideo 1 year ago
vinyl wins, but this video is digital and youtubes compression probably uses mp3 or similar compression to mp3 anyway
d3vfuzz 1 year ago
What bit rate mp3? MUST be 228 or HIGHER for fair comparison plus lets also hear it in FLAC (Free Lossless Audio Codec) BTW great song.
BluSk0rpi0n 1 year ago
doesn't matter the bitrate, the point is, vinyl sounds warmer/more natural/more real BECAUSE 1. the "SAMPLE RATE" is in REAL TIME, 2. the wave form is un-natural and sounds harsh to the human ear because of the shape of the waveform, and 3. what's the matter with you, can't you tell it's better!!??
So there, I said it, I believe it, and that settles it.
playguitarlars 1 year ago
Man .. beatles is not 320kbps .. try it on any new tune .. that was released around summer this year or earlier dunno ..
Pito7432 1 year ago
any one who likes vinyls better than CDs thumbs up this
P.S. i'm trying to prove my brother wrong
megarocker100 1 year ago
Judging by an overly compressed video on an overly compressed stream from Youtube ;)
666xfreak 1 year ago 2
DC sounds harsh that overwhelms the ears. vinyl it's warm and cozy. On vinyl you hear every detail of the song unlike CD's lt's just noise.
djverdugo7 1 year ago
does vinyl sound better than FLAC or WAV?
drionshk 1 year ago
On what planet does the vinyl sound better than the digital recording?
tenkins 1 year ago
vinyl always wins, but this test proves nothing
HomeMadeVinyl 1 year ago
it depends of the quality of mp3. you mp3 quality is too bad so you have to download another son with better quelity
pipaaaaaa1 1 year ago
The vinyl is an original MONO recording. Your mp3 is remixed in STEREO. Apples and oranges right there. There is terrible artifacting in the mp3. If you can't hear that, you shouldn't be gouging these things. The record sounds better, and it's all irrelevant because youtube audio is digitized and compressed just like mp3, so it's all oranges anyway.
CraigTube 1 year ago
Vinyl always wins, but it´s hard to realise that through my computer. But on my hifi it´s another story... digital has no soul when you´re used to analogue
djbeatroot 1 year ago
I liek the MP3 better, its in stereo!
Albee213 1 year ago
good, mp3 may be the best for the human ear but some sounds you can't hear you can feel via bass etc... and then i don't choose MP3 listen to HIFI very loudly and you get the difference.
Also i hate this remasterings. It is only destroying the old tune.... and it is sold with 'better quality' they say. It's just the effects they put on that make it may sound better but not better in quality way.
KSX387Database 1 year ago
all i gotta say for digital is that nyquist's theorem must be true, sounds that way to me anyway.
UnchainTheNight1 1 year ago
I don't care if MP3's and CD's are better than a vinyl in terms of sound. Nothing will beat having a huge album cover, and that sensation of "Putting the needle on it."
milodaman2 1 year ago
My turntable had a moving coil cartridge and it sounds ALOT better than digital mp3. For some reason the mp3 can't deliver the fluid transparent sound with a higher end like the vinyl, but remember the mp3 is fairly young in comparing with the turn table. I'm sure that somkind of research is going on with the mp3 to deliver the warmth sound of the vinyl. Mabe in 20 years or so this problem will be solved.
toltec13 1 year ago
don't forget that the CD version is take from the stereo master tape!
you have got the MONO vinyl version
no way to compare it!
Killmoehre 1 year ago
all that being said, the vinyl clearly has the better mastering. the bass is tighter and the mids are correctly EQ'd giving it what people call the "warm" sound. The CD has some obnoxious treble boost and the way the bass is EQd is absolutely hilarious.
mechanicaloverload 1 year ago
"analog" vs. "digital" is mostly a distraction from the real issue. what matters most is the MASTERING. sure, analog has its advantages just like digital does. the fact that its on vinyl is not what makes it sound better, it's the coincidence that most vinyls have better mastering: better EQ, no compression/clipping/excessive hard limiting, etc.
mechanicaloverload 1 year ago
proper and easy way to prove LP is superior format to CD is find a really good pressing for the lP and use same recording on CD with good CD mastering.
THEN using high end LP playback gear as well as high end CD gear, Do the
AB comparison. LP will win the "which sounds more real" contest every time.
hifisapi 1 year ago
@hifisapi what if the CD has a better mastering than the vinyl? Like almost any of the Audio Fidelity remaster CDs? then in those cases, CD slaughters vinyl. You can't say vinyl is better just because it typically has the better mastering most of the time.
mechanicaloverload 1 year ago
You can never compare the quality between a mp3 and a vinyl over Youtube lol.
A vinyl have better sound then mp3 but it also has artifacts and I just can't stand the artifacts from the vinyl so I prefer mp3 320kbps.
My ultimate choice would be lossless FLAC though. And since all music is processed digitally now days there's no better format then lossless
ToxeCryz 1 year ago
Personally I disagree.... I perfer the digital
deYbarrondo 1 year ago
Whatever.
looneytunesfreak 1 year ago
I own many Beatles original 1st edition Records and other artists and I also have ever Beatles song on MP3 for itunes. I can tell you one thing, MP3 may be easier to handle but Vinyl sounds way more rich. Unless you find one all scratched up and or dusty. Just clean the dust off if that is the problem and it is a beauty. I should puts some vids of my Beatles Records on youtube.
tjsmith51 1 year ago
I do personally agree that vinyl sounds better than digital, but the 45 RPM you're using sounds monophonic, whereas the mp3 is stereophonic. Try using a stereo vinyl version of "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" and then see how it sounds. It should REALLY knock the socks off of the digital then.
ftbnubs123 1 year ago
@ftbnubs123 I agree.The vinyl is in mono no question the vinyl is the closest to the orig format being it was on a tape then transferd to vinyl i guess cd is handy and the mp3 but if you own a sony walkman with a metal tape.Then your talikin my kinda sound.
radiotubes 1 year ago
My favorite music hobby is converting my mother's old vinyl records to CD and MP3. I always reduce the volume of the pops and clicks while maintaining the analog warmth in my digital conversions. The software that I always use to convert my mother's old vinyl records to CD and MP3 is Roxio LP and Tape Assistant, which is included in Roxio Easy VHS to DVD.
looneytunesfreak 1 year ago
@looneytunesfreak u cant retain vinyl warmth in mp3, its imposable. the reason u get the warmth is because the frequency range is much broader than mp3
Robot0Ninja 1 year ago
@Robot0Ninja thats not true. mp3 has a frequency response that excedes the capacity of human hearing. the reason mp3 sucks is because its a lossy codec
mechanicaloverload 1 year ago
@mechanicaloverload mp3 has a 20 Hz to 20,000Hz frequency range at best, and thats only if u rip it at a bit rate of 1411 kbps, though most are at 160 kbps which has a 20Hz to 17,000Hz frequency range. the human ear of a young person has a frequency range of 20Hz to 20,000Hz. and more young people listen to mp3 because studies show younger people tend to illegally download songs, usually a 160 kbps bit rate mp3. mp3 exceeds human frequnecy response at older ages who listen to actual cds, usually
Robot0Ninja 1 year ago
@Robot0Ninja thats not entirely true. the frequency range of mp3 is 20 to 22050 Hz and this holds for 320 kpbs. But you are correct that at the lower bitrates, the frequency response is reduced at higher frequencies, but there is typically no information present in music above 17kHz anyway. This is especially true on most vinyl records.
mechanicaloverload 1 year ago
mp3 vs vinyl is no comparison. Musepack on the other hand is a digital encoding that is actually enjoyable.
codic3s 1 year ago
Not a valid comparison.
BarneyFife00 1 year ago
The analog has a more faithful reproduction, wider frequency range! You barely hear the instruments on that mp3!! Only screechy pumped up treble voice.
Snoopysboobies 1 year ago
Digital sounds like I'm standing where the mic should be. Vinyl sounds like I'm off in the stands somewhere.
Digital has a much better sound. I don't hear any "warmth" just shitty quality like a 24kbps recorded song.
blasphimus 1 year ago
though I totally 100% prefer vinyl over an MP3 at any given day,I hate to say this test is far from an accurate comparison. You need to record them on the same recording medium and play back at the same perceptive loudness. Comparing it with a video that is shot somewhere else with an amplifier in between vs a very low bitrate MP3 (and not mentioning the rate either) will give too much biased results.
seismiq 1 year ago
VINYL
vinylloung 1 year ago
wow, the mp3 sounded distorted and like it was playing through a tweeter lol and the vinyl sounded more "mid range" and "expansive"
0UT3RL1M1T5 1 year ago
Something like this cannot be done on youtube or done with any other digital media, you have to be there to hear it for yourself. Period.
thornygravy 1 year ago
this is great you can tell the difernce between vinyl vs,. mp3.
lowdeeze 1 year ago
I love vinyl
watchitnz 1 year ago
Back to ANALOG! :)
zozo76hun 1 year ago