Henry Wallace was at worst a Stalinist traitor, at best a clown manipulated by bloodthirsty mass-murderers to advance Communism around the world and in the United States.
The employment rolls of his Agricultural Adjustment Administration during the 1930's were loaded with Stalin agents, and he never stopped from defending any spy during his lifetime. His and other descriptions of the trip he took thru the Soviet Union are at the same time laughable and almost horrifying.
@RuflessRecords I guess all of his ideas of racial and gender equality, fears of people hurting the environment and ideas of creating an agreeable foreign policy background was bad for America too. Not to mention he was an agricultural revolutionary that completely redesigned how Americans, and more specifically Iowans, farm and operate. Also, he was highly trusted by FDR, heading foreign policy committees and discussions. Yup, what an ass. (sarcasm).
Henry Wallace on Stalin's Gulags where millions of innocent people were murdered or worked to death, after visiting one on an overseas trip as Sec of State:
They are "a combination of the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) and the Hudson's Bay Company".
Must be nice being in a death camp in a slave nation like the USSR and have free citizens from other places come over and describe the death camp as wonderful.
why not base the Wallace Global Fund on wallace's post-korean war attitudes, after he discovered he was being used and denounced stalin? it took a lot of courage for him to leave the progressive party and put the final nail in the coffin of organized old left stalinism, which i think is his true lasting legacy
@pushups2345 He was always aware of the socialists, also asking them to leave him alone and run their own candidate for the elections, thereby most likely getting him up to 3 million more votes. The communists destroyed Wallace.
@bookhound63 Yes. Very true. That's why the conservative attack on Marxism and socialism is so ludicrous and furthermore undoubtedly empirically false. The Business Party of the United States has two factions, Democrats and Republicans. The system of electing elites chosen from a group of elites by the group of elites is called polyarchy. It's democracy of the rich elites. It is similar system to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The Grand Duke was elect, chosen from the nobility by the nobility.
@bookhound63 No, thats not in any way correct. Fascism is collaboration of private corporations and government to form unaccountable tyranny. That is the U.S model, in fact most countries in the world are to some degree fascist. Which is terrible and creates widespread poverty, disenfranchisement and corruption. Socialism and Marxism have many more logical and realistic approaches to solving our current world economic crisis. Governments can cut spending, and increase standard of living.
@youngbuck189 LOL, You just told me I was right and then turned around and said I was wrong. Do you even know what you are talking about? If fascism is a collaboration b/n private corps and govt, what is socialism except govt taking over private corps? Its the same thing. You get the same results: failure! Why do you think the "peasants are revolting" right now in France and Greece? You are being deceived. Marxism leads to fascism, always has, always will.
If wallace ideology had won over, we would been a revered superpower, having help and build up mutual trade interest all over the world, now we are a hated and crumbling superpower, for the elites short term fix to our corporate greed. 60 years on the governments we help toppled, the wars we funded or fought, those people around the world remember and do not forget, hence we are now outcasted like any tyrants or imperial empire that came before us destined to fall when they lose all support.
Truman wasn't an extreme leftist, and neither is Obama. Neither is the vast majority of the American people. That is the problem I have with the term "progressive". Seems like it only applies to extreme leftists who are out of touch with the rest of America. I also have a problem with the "against the Cold War" thing. Nobody was in favor of it, but it had to be dealt with and prosecuted forcefully. The Soviet threat demanded it. Peace at any price was not, and is not, a viable alternative.
@armyveteran101st I could be wrong but my understanding is that "progressive" is a synonym of "left wing". Also, I disagree no-one was in favour of the Cold War. Having a big official "bad guy" enemy was perfect propaganda for the Soviet Union and the United States as a cloak for justifying their actions against the catch-all explain-everything "threat".
@NicosNicosNicosNicos You make it sound as if the whole thing was just a farce, but it definitely wasn't. I'm old enough to have lived and grown up during the Cold War, and it was definitely real. That the U.S. and the Soviets "fought" each other through proxies was a good thing, and a much better alternative to a face-to-face hot war. The threat was real, believe me.
@armyveteran101st That the US and USSR threatened each other,notably in the Cuban missile crisis, etc.was no figment of the imagination.(there certainly was an element of farce!).However,on the US side(the one I know best)the lie of the"threat" of "communism"was used to stifle students,trade unions,political dissent and so on, from Argentina to Guatemala, and the Soviet Union was a figurative bogeyman in these cases.Argentina even traded with the USSR while supposedly in a war on "communism".
@NicosNicosNicosNicos Also, in the case of Stalin's showtrials, those who "confessed" before these kangaroo courts would accuse themselves of having collaborated with anyone from the Nazis to the British and the US, which in those cases was systematically a lie, as these were loyal party members sacrificing themselves for Stalin's propaganda.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos Well, we came this close to nuclear war in October of 1962, and I don't know how you can call that a farce, but oh well. The communist threat was no lie, my friend. A portion of my family is Cuban, and I know what communism is. It is very real. And yes, the U.S. had to resort to rather unsavory tactics in order to contain communism in the western hemisphere, and I say good for us. Somebody had to do it, or else, at least Chile and Nicaragua would be communist today.
@armyveteran101st(For the farcical side,I refer to one of my favourite films"Dr. Strangelove).As I mentioned there were real things such as Soviet and US expansionism.There were also more lies than warheads on both sides.My grandad first worked in,then exiled himself and denounced Hungary's version of Stalin's trials.Good friends were tortured by criminals because of the lie that Allende was going to turn Chile into"another Cuba".
@NicosNicosNicosNicos But the biggest lie of all is that there were "right wing" or "left wing" crimes and unsavoury this, but lesser-of-evils that.
The US had the same vision for Latin America, before, during, and after the existence of the Soviet Union. The only thing that changed were the labels in its rhetoric. Similarly, Putin is as against independence for say, Chechnia or Georgia as any of his Soviet predecessors ever was.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I just found and wanted to share with you this excellent quote from US Ambassador to Panama Ambler Moss, in 1980, cited in the opening pages of ex US historian Walter LaFeber, (who specialised in US foreign policy) "What we see in Central America today would not be much different if Fidel Castro and the Soviet Union did not exist".
This does not deny anything that went on in Cuba. It merely quits using it as the (very false) pretext for US policy in the region.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos this is surely too long, but I'll qualify that: the Cuban revolution WAS a key factor in US foreign policy in Latin America. It is simultaneously true that any time they wanted to crush a country's independence, they killed peasants by conjuring up "the evil commie"which was the language of their power, not that of truth.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I'll admit that my country did unsavory things over the years, but there was always a good reason. And you can delude yourself all you want into thinking that the Soviet threat wasn't real. Me imagino que eres un rojillo mas alla en Honduras. Ni me vas a convencer, ni yo te voy a convencer a ti. Yo se quien gano y quien perdio, y eso es mas que satisfactorio. Gusto en dialogar contigo.
@armyveteran101st Hi.As I understand it US foreign policy(like that of other countries)indeed always has a reason:to protect US interests.I won't say the Soviet/US threat were never'real'.IN ADDITION to whatever reality(I cited the missile crisis),the "threat" was often used rhetorically.Students and trade unionists, young people wanting to improve their societies were killed and they weren't the Soviet army.Mas bien tengo amigos que sufrieron las dictaduras de los 70/80.Un gusto tambien!
"Seems like it only applies to extreme leftists who are out of touch with the rest of America."
Today the word"progressive" is generally applied to that part of the left that is not aligned with the Democratic Party, and which is generally anti-war, pro-labour, etc...
Also,the fact that such progressives are a minority doesn't make them wrong. Quite the opposite, it shows they think for themselves and not mindlessly follow the two-party zombie-fest.
@Vebinz You can oppose unnecessary, poorly managed wars and be in favor of reasonable labor laws without being a psychotic, extreme leftist ideologue. By your definition, those who call themselves "progressives" are out of touch with a vast majority of the American people, who are centrists by-and-large. This progressive nonsense is just as toxic and destructive as the right-wing extremism that has driven America to its knees in recent years, and just as wrong. Centrist policies are what's best.
Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman, Robert Scheer, (the late) Howard Zinn, and Chris Hedges are all progressives, yet none of them strike me as "extreme" and "psychotic".
besides, how can one be "psychotic" when one is anti-war?
Finally a war being "unnecessary" and "poorly managed" are two different things. An "unnecessary" war is an unjust war regardless of unwell it's managed. "Barbarossa" was ill-managed, as well as immoral.
@Vebinz Those are people that I would classify in the extreme, counter-productive fringe of political and social thought. Amy Goodman and Chomsky are almost anti-American and treasonous in their discourse regarding our Country. I've never seen them offer anything resembling a reasonable alternative to our current situation. They are FAR from the majority of the American people in their views. If you're looking up to these people for reasonable discourse on our politics, you have a big problem.
@armyveteran101st Goodman and Chomsky as anti-American traitors?! Gee Whiz bud, I've been one of your YouTube 'friends' for a long time now, but I'm afraid that I have a serious problem with that statement. You've said here that you're 'centrist' but I'd be interested to hear you explain how that could be the case given the 'extreme' nature of your above comment.
@wasdom01 Nothing extreme about it. I'm just going by what I've heard them say over the years and the positions I've seen them adopt. I remember very well when Goodman used to demonize Bill Clinton back in the 90's because he was a centrist President, as centrist as they come. To me, Goodman's attitude back then was extreme, and it still seems extreme today. Chomsky is even worse. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
@armyveteran101st Well, with all due respect Raf (and in your case I say that with no sarcasm), I'd like you to define what your idea of a 'centrist' is. I'm well aware that these two figures are controversial in some circles, but traitors? I'm going to have to disagree to agree to disagree with you here bud ;). I'm not an expert on these two figures though, so if you can back up your charge of treason with some examples - in addition to defining centrism - I'm all ears and open to reason.
@wasdom01 I did say that their discourse seems almost treasonous to me. I didn't categorically state that they are traitors. There's a difference, and I can say the same about people like Glen Beck and Limbaugh, whose discourse definitely sounds treasonous. Once you start ranting and railing against our institutions and our laws with the sole purpose of agitating and instigating anarchy by using extreme language, you do become somewhat of an anti-American traitor in my book.
@armyveteran101st So you can act treasonously without being a traitor, hmmm..
I haven't engaged with you in ages but I remember you as someone who seemed able to balance his patriotism with a good dose of objectivity. The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that Goodman and Chomsky's "sole" raison d'etre is agitation and anarchy. Making accusations of this type without first defining terms and then providing specific evidence boarders on McCarthyism my friend. It's just not the right term.
@wasdom01 No, acting and being are the same thing, and that's not what I said, nor what I implied. People can make treasonous statements without actually committing the act of treason, and that happens pretty much every day. Just watch Fox News or listen to right-wing talk radio for at least a half hour and you'll see what I mean. Goodman, Chomsky, Vidal, Zinn, and others have gone out of their way to repudiate our system and our way of life without offering a viable alternative in return.
@armyveteran101st I can't comment on Vidal & Zinn. Getting back to Beck, Rush and their like though, my argument is just as valid for them. They are ignorant, narrow minded, racist, bigoted, pompous, arrogant scum. If everyone who we thought of this way can also be seen as acting treasonously (even if not as 'being' a traitor - ??), then EVERYONE that we don't agree with on matters of national charachter can be called treasonous. Perhaps you'd be good enough to at least define 'treason' for me.
@wasdom01 One thing is to disagree with those who have differing but reasonable points of view, and quite another is to point out un-American behavior without reserve. I get that you object to my use of the term "treason". All I am saying is that, IMO, those who engage in un-American attitudes and behavior come close to meeting the definition of the term, and to making themselves deserving of it. However, that is just my opinion, and I apologize for not issuing that disclaimer from the outset.
@armyveteran101st No apology needed Sir, I very much appreciate the clarification though. I'm sure you can see that my point still stands though. I have no wish to bog you down in definitions or semantics, but the historical contexts in which the terms treason and traitor have been used carry so much emotional baggage that I think they should be reserved for cases involving explicit acts of wartime treachery or peacetime espionage. You still haven't defined any of those terms - any reason why?
@wasdom01 I agree, but the actions of the people we have been discussing are so insidious and so harmful to the Country that I really can't think of a more suitable way to describe them and refer to them. Assange, for instance, engaged in an activity akin to espionage, just as harmful and deliberate, right up there with people like Aldrich Ames. Would you not say that Ames can be classified as a traitor? IMO, Assange belongs in that category with him.
@armyveteran101st And I know that I'm engaging in somewhat of a contradiction here, but that only goes to show how difficult the issue is, and how it can engender very mixed feelings. People can only go so far in their disloyal behaviors and actions against the Country, until they start crossing the very thin lines that separate disagreement and dissension from outright harmful and treacherous behavior.
@armyveteran101st You keep talking about your 'countrys interests' without seeming to realise that not all people of good intent may share your definition. We seem to be going around in circles a bit here. Let's get back to Chomsky - Professor of Linguistics at MIT, the most referenced academic of the late 20th century, recently said that the US was the greatest country in the world. So, explain to me in detail why he's more than just someone that you 'strongly disagree' with. Why 'teasonous'?
@wasdom01 There are not that many ways to define a country's interests, but the U.S. and Australia share the same interests in many ways. in this instance, I think it's safe to define them as a repudiation of the Taliban and al-Qaeda and the medieval mindset they embrace. I think a vast majority of Australians and Americans of good intent would agree, don't you? Regarding Chomsky, one carefully qualified remark doesn't erase the often-stated disgust he feels for the American system.
@armyveteran101st There may not be an infinite amount of ways to define a countries interests, but - unfortunately - there would seem to be an almost infinite amount of ways to envision pursuing these interests.I'm in 100% agreement with your 'repudiation' point though. I still fail to see how hating the existing capitalist system makes Chomsky treasonous, especially in light of current events! I think that Goldman Sachs, BoA and AIG are more treasonous than Chomsky :).
@wasdom01 I have to agree with you again. In the great scheme of things Chomsky is really harmless and inoffensive when compared to the un-American fucks at the corporations you mention. My main problem with Goodman and Chomsky is that they're generally long on hateful criticism and short on constructive suggestions that are truly viable and feasible. It's very easy to be a critic when you're unwilling or unable to contribute something useful.
@armyveteran101st I'll deal with two main issues here. Firstly, Chomsky Vs The Bankers. Hearing you be happy to refer to the slimeballs who actually DID bring the American economy to it's knees as treasonous puts my mind at rest more. After all, throughout the modern age it's been this 'laissez faire', 'negative liberty' mob who were warning all us peasants that people like Chomsky and Moore WOULD be the ones to bring about the apocalypse if ever they were to have their evil socialist way ;).
@armyveteran101st pt.1 cont' - I'm not a socialist, but I'm well aware that there are serious problems with the economic and law systems in the West. These are problems that - in contrast to your claim - people like Chomsky and Goodman actually have a LOT to say on in terms of what would be better. You don't have to agree with everything they say - I don't - but I raised the issue of your choice of terms because I'm so used to hearing the Tea Party call everyone they disagree with traitors :).
@armyveteran101st Yes but of course Assange's stated aim is to release 'only relevant' information that 'doesn't compromise troop security' to 'the whole world'! He's not releasing information on troop movements to the Taliban. Also, I find it interesting that you would call him a traitor despite the fact that he's an Australian - not an American. We may have another slight difference of definition here. You've skipped over Goodman and Chomsky yet again though my friend.
@wasdom01 That may be so, but his unauthorized release of information that can only inflame the situation is irresponsible to say the least, not to mention contrary to U.S. law. And while he's not an American, he's still acting deliberately to hamper the anti-Taliban efforts his country is engaging in along with mine. If you take sides with your country's enemy by tilting public opinion in his favor through your efforts, you're not exactly acting in your country's best interests, are you?
@armyveteran101st But my friend the Afghan civilian population aren't our enemy! [I'll reply to this before continuing the other thread] This is where I honestly think that you have an unsatisfactory conception of "American interests". It is NOT in the American interest to have hundreds of Afghan non-combatants killed and then kept secret, that's in the Taliban's interest. It is only right that the American people know the truth - they pay for the war, in lives and treasure. That's democracy...
@wasdom01 I can't help but agree with you. However, you're considering as a given that part of what my country thinks it has to do in Afghanistan is kill civilians, and you couldn't be more wrong. That was never part of our intent there, naturally. The problem is that we're operating in a country where a wide swath of the population is your friend during the day and your mortal enemy at night, be that because of Taliban intimidation or what have you. That's not a justification. It is a fact.
@armyveteran101st Oh no, I never suggested that killing innocents was part of the plan, it's obviously not. The problem is that the INTENT doesn't count for squat if the outcome's otherwise. You've already said that you think that good may come from these leaks but that the leakers should be shown no mercy. I agree fully with the first point and must admit that I have no perfect solution to the second. I am a little surprised that you thought the SCOTUS ruling on Ellsberg was wrong though :(
@wasdom01 I don't agree with it, but it has been precedent and pretty much law ever since. I don't agree because it makes it possible for sensitive information to fall on the wrong hands, therefore making it easier for our enemies to cause us harm. I'm all for freedom of the press, but I've always said that freedom and personal responsibility go hand in hand. Doesn't a journalist have a civic obligation to act in the best interests of his/her country at all times, just like any other citizen?
@armyveteran101st Secondly, the issue of a nation's "best interests". It's impossible to disagree with any of your general sentiments, but the devil's in the detail as they say. For example, the answer to your question about a journalists civic obligation is a resounding YES, and I believe it's part of their training. But who's to make the decision? Would you have been happy letting Nixon make it? How about Putin or Castro, do they get to decide on who reports what? I put it to you that it CONT'
@armyveteran101st pt 2 cont' - is possible to come up with 'objective' standards for what is a legitimate public interest story and what isn't. I'm aware that this is always going to be a debateable point, but I would suggest that whenever a government has used it's monopoly of force to invade another nation, they have an obligation to be truthful about issues such as civilian casualties, costs, procurement proceedures etc. This in no way prevents them from keeping things like war tactics secret
@armyveteran101st pt 2 cont' (b) - Earlier on I said that any organisation had the right to expect loyalty. On this point, I agree that whistleblowers can't expect a promotion! But, when it takes a whistleblower to bring important issues to public attention, they must be judged on the specific circumstances and afforded legal protection accordingly. Grandma's bank account details are only of interest to the Russian and Nigerian mafia. State sanctioned corruption and murder on the other hand...
@armyveteran101st Also, may I ask you to define what 'un-American' behaviour is. For example, what do you think of the person who leaked the chopper attack footage to WikiLeaks? Is that person un-American, a traitor. Some might call them a true patriot, a hero. You might be interested to watch my feature video on Julian Assange of WikiLeaks now that it's in the news for this huge leak of classified military documentation on Afghanistan and Pakistan. I'd be interested on your thoughts on this.
@wasdom01 Assange is a criminal that needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He disseminated classified information and therefore took action against our Country's interests. If that isn't un-American and borderline treasonous I don't know what is. Yes, he may have had ultimately good reasons to do it, (though I doubt that), but that was not the way to advance his objections to the war. You commit treason when you act deliberately against your Country's interests and well-being.
@armyveteran101st I wasn't refering to Assange here, I was meaning the actual guy on the front line who stole the files while pretending to listen to Lady Gaga. He was a young American soldier who was horrified by the lies and lack of transparency in the conduct of the war. It would appear that you would excuse this behaviour 'in America's interests', but many others would argue that it is far more 'in America's interests' to know the truth. Were the Pentagon Papers released by a traitor?
@wasdom01 Let me talk about mixed feelings again. This issue is difficult for me due to my military formation and mindset, which hold operational security and protection of sensitive intel in the highest regard. Let me put it this way: I'm not entirely sorry about the young Army PFC leaking all this sensitive intel, because I think more good than bad will come of it. However, I think he actually committed an act of treason, and needs to be prosecuted accordingly and without mercy....CONT.
@wasdom01 CONT...for it, because he broke the law, he betrayed his Country's trust, and he crossed a line no Soldier should ever cross. When on active duty, if you vehemently disagree with something you take it up with your chain of command and declare yourself a conscientious objector if need be. You don't dishonor yourself by committing an act of treason against your Country. Ellsberg's case was different, as his freedom to release the papers was upheld by the SCOTUS under freedom of....CONT.
@wasdom01 CONT...the press grounds. I disagree with the decision, but then again I'm not a Supreme Court Justice. If it had been up to me, Ellsberg would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for doing what he did. Having said that, I'll also say that I am glad he released the Pentagon Papers. Cognitive dissonance can be a perplexing thing, my friend, and I'm not really having an easy time dealing with it.
@armyveteran101st Haha, we all need to watch out for cognitive dissonance :). Then again, if CD is the process of discounting evidence about oneself that clashes with our preconceived ideas - usually to the detriment of the persons self-image - I don't think you have a problem there. Firstly, I thank you for such a great answer on that aspect of my question and I am in complete agreement with you that NO organisation - military or otherwise - should be expected to allow or condone disloyaltyCONT
Finally, sorry but I don't buy Americans being "centrists" or that "centrism" is good. There are issues where one needs to take a stand that is not "centrist".
How are Americans centrists on war, abortion, immigrations, etc...?
Besides, and again, it doesn't matter what the majority think. Once most Americans had no problem with segregation, but that didn't make it right.
@Vebinz You're comparing apples to oranges. You cannot compare someone like me who has reasoned centrist views on most everything to a racist segregationist that is bigoted and prejudiced. That's where your thought process runs into a problem. You are extremist by nature. Being anti-war no-matter-what is an extreme position that is very unreasonable. The same goes for abortion and immigration. Your all-or-nothing, extreme approach doesn't work for the majority in America, and that's a fact.
You're making too many assumptions here. I'm thinking that you're transfering your own persona onto others, classifying everyone as "extremist" because you yourself are so far off.
Name a single thing that Chomsky or Goodman have ever said that makes them "anti-American"?
Further, you have an unhealthy obsession and over-reliance on the "majority". I repeat to you for the third time: the majority does not make something right.
It's a crime that you can't talk the way Wallace did in politics today. As soon as you open your mouth the mainstream media would dismiss you as "fringe", "hardline", "extreme", or even "leftist" as if it were an insult to be one - they would paint you as someone who cannot possibly win and should not win. If we want real progressive politics, we need more media coops like the Real News Network so that the media increasingly becomes progressive and a real alternative vision is fully expressed.
this countrys name is not "AMERICA" look at a map, it says UNITED STATES. the name is the intellectuall property of the citizens of the continentand the world, and is part of human patrimony(please dont imperialize on this , we all are the front line and we all have the ability to resist) let live the popular revolution for the poeples of the world for equality. there can be prosperaty between buissness and employees.
While this was a good interview, it was disturbing too.
Disturbing because labels are used so freely to convey one message when in reality we need to look at people’s actions. A politician that identifies with communist, socialist, progressive, republican, democrat, etc. will say that they are for the working people. Just depends on its spin. One only needs to look at the current administration to see how alike it is to the previous
We need is LESS government. Do away with most of it.
@iknownothingnow allot of this video was historicall, but yeahh I do idsentify woth anrchism or lebertrianismhow about govermant that worls and does what it supposed to do, I guess you, like me identify with the center leaning one way or another( that is if your into labels) yeahh but tolerance and dialoigue is whre its at compromise and the sharing of ideas for a better society.
@RAPMONSTAR Well said. At its core political promises are about giving citizens back their unalienable rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. They purport that “their” program is the better and just one. The question though is, “Who took away these rights?”
Excuses are made. Not enough blue dogs, republicans, etc; whereas the real problem is there is too much and that there is a false belief that government will help. Evidence shows the contrary regardless of party.
@iknownothingnow I do not necessarly agree with you. I beleive in govermnat and social programs like schooling police emergency programs etc. if you look at the politicall importance of the words "liberty" and "order"(come from greek ancient politicall systems.) it has allot to do with this discussion. and its despicable when private firms are put in place instead of working govermant their only function is to cut services while making bigger proffit line.
@RAPMONSTAR I appreciate your thoughts as I am sure you could provide examples to support this position. But instead of listing examples, allow me to take this higher.
I 100% support that you are allowed to believe this way and I never would consider or support the use of force to have someone change your views to mine? My question is:
Do you support government forcing me to believe like you?
Please think carefully about your answer. Again, thank you for your thoughts.
@iknownothingnow no but I also dont like the govermant or coorporate media forcing me to like neo-conservative neo-liberal corporetist elistist points of views that only benefit few. but thats partison politics(ima center lefteist) and dont agree with totalitaristic "it has to be far left or far right",(and if your a centerist you'r a comunist) I beleive in dialouge and tolerance for the good of soceity and human interest. this 2 party system sucks.
@RAPMONSTAR Excellent. You know that you are more tolerant than this government. If one disagrees with the government, they use force to make that person bend to their will.
Government was meant to be the servant but they are now the master. And an extremely cruel, wicked one that lies, steals, kills and destroys.
Thomas Jefferson said, “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.”
Now we have the slaves of Communist China taking our future all so the rich could be richer and the middle class could get in debt to their eye balls.
Republicans and Democrats agree on 98% of all issues and debates on CNN, Fox, CBS.. all fall within the 2%. It's funny how American Fascism, as mentioned in this extract, can be masked by a veil of democracy.
this is the disney version. wallace was a high-degree freemason and devotee of the russian mystic, nicholas reorich, whose wife claimed to be a conduit for the same djinn as helen blavatsky.
wallace was instrumental in fdr's decision to put the "american seal", all that freemason imagery, on the dollar bill.
his career turns more reflected a n.w.o. internecine battle for supremacy, wallace representing a "kinder, gentler" fascism and n.w.o.
I always found it fascinating how true progressives and true libertarians have very similar end goals, while at the same time the means threw which they attempt to achieve them is so vastly different. mainly that libertarians advocate for bottom up solutions were as progressives tend to lean towards centrally planned solutions. I am without a doubt a libertarian, merely because the record of history has shown that central planning, whether it be economic or social, always ends badly.
Which is a product of basic human nature. Humans are all self serving, and there is not a single angel among us. so when it comes right down to it the "invisible hand" works far better the big brothers when it comes to planning the economy and society.
@666Qtip666 Jesus, the invisible hand of intellectual masturbation! :D "Humans are all self serving, and there is not a single angel among us" You've mean you've never met anyone who looked beyond their nose? Or you just can't see them for that big thing in the way?
@666Qtip666 I'm sure libertarian socialists and anarchists might disagree with your notion that "progressives" favor a top down centrally planned approach.Anarchist societies such as those described by Orwell in "Homage to Catalonia" are vivid examples of a bottom up social movement creating what might be properly understood as "socialist" societies with democracy at their core.Libertarian socialists in W. Europe also favor bottom up voluntary organizations like unions to facilitate their ends.
Henry Wallace makes me proud to be an Iowan and an American. In the past, there was a fairly strong strain of Progressivism in states such as Iowa and Wisconsin. These states still are very moderate, but the times have changed. For some reason, the Democrat party as a whole no longer promotes the narrative of Progressivism. Democrat politicians still use it as rhetoric to win elections, but it seems both parties have become equally corporatist.
Perhaps we should create a Peoples' Encyclopedia. Call it Heroes! Wallace, Henry A. would go in the letter W volume. We might consider it to be proofs that - Yes! Humans can achieve humanity. And the evolving critical mass of humanity will change the world from the inside-out and from the bottom-up. Or as the Swami says: "It's time we put our energy into fruitfully re-growing the Garden instead of fruitlessly scrapping over the scraps." Shine ON*
My opinion of Harry Truman has been receding for some time now and this video has been very illuminating. Once again The Real News is bringing important information to the people. Thanks.
Thank you so much, RN, for giving us these snipits of history so we can put current events in context. We are not taught the real history of our own country in schools, often not even in university. We are only taught the version of history the political elites want to have remembered (if we're taught any serious history at all). It really is necessary to interweave history lessons with the news in order to really understand what's going on, and I always appreciate it when you guys do that!
"With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... American fascism will not be really dangerous until there is a purposeful coalition among the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information..."
@DaHonestAbe American Fascists "claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
@themeaningoflife38 Latvian Nazi police chief Boleslavs Maikovskis served on a re-election sub comittee for Richard Nixon. Even more interesting......
Excellent historical review, words that should not be forgotten, unfortunatly they reflected, materialised and remain strongly in our social/political present status.
These middle east parasitical interests just keep helping the weekening of its ideological hosts.
@deliciousmorton No war taxes right , they're purposely putting the US economy into hyper inflation.
Price of Gold
US dollar is world reserve its equivalent to gold value, now the dollar won't even keep up with the paper gold price. Proves counterfeiting of currency
1776 Gold $20 in paper
1971 Gold $35 in paper
2010 Gold $1200 in illegal currency - bills of credit are illegal according to Article 1 Sec 8 and 10 - no first you'll suffer then you'll die.
Central Banking is #5 on the communist manifesto - the US constitution is based on the 10 commandments. (The Satan Worshippers took over USA)
USA as a society ended on Dec 23, 1912 - its been a subversive clown show, wars for paper profit, social engineering - a truly corrupt society with Fascist and Communist elements - all planned so the USA implodes.
Article 1 Sec 8 and 10 - gold and silver coin only so the society doesn't implode.
Too late your society imploded. Since 1971 - illegal currency bills of credit. The American people are that ignorant on what real US tender looks like.
@boots920 actually nazi comes from the way you pronounce "national" in german (only in latin "-tion" a t is pronounced as "ts"/"z" in german, so you have to change the spelling in the abbrevation)
You're a fucking asshole, you support the genocide of sheople.
Is paper gold prick - that's what the corrupt assholes politicians have been telling us since 19 fucking 71. What a dick cheese you are eh paid to type ?
1) Establish the modern state of Israel - that subverts the Torah
2) To make that happen they had to murder all the Orthodox Jews, the ones that protest because it goes against the world of G-d.
Israel Est. 1948
World economy becomes based on faceless corporations with funny money backing it. Roosevelt stole all the people gold , he knew you morons would implode latter.
No way plenty of asshole traitors paid to types - they're here to stir things up.
I've been banned for hate speech but youduped won't state what I said was hateful.
Full blown Nazi book burning - US dollar nothing but paper since 1971 - we first get to suffer then die. Satan worshippers like to get good value out of the suffering.
According to Lyndon Laoruche, the Brits were the reason Wallace was replaced by Truman. And STalin told Roosevelt son, that the Brits had poisoned his father. Mind you Stalin also said the Brits killed Polish General Sikorksi too.
@Mojo1982 Lyndon Laoruche is nuts, and probably a Chinese agent. Britain was putty in American hands after the second world war ended, because America pulled the plug on our attempts to set up a welfare state, forcing us to bow to American influence in return for money. We have no global influence aside from being America's lackey. That's why De Gaulle wouldn't let us into the EEC, not because he wasn't anti-British but because he was anti-American.
WOW! This Wallace was right and the world would be a much better place today if he was in charge. RIP
So Truman was a dick and is Obamas hero, well thats just great. If only people would of known. to bad the media dont do their work, to busy with Anna Nicole Smith RIP
Thank you TRNN this was great, i cant wait for the next one.
@kharitonov300 Maybe you should find out more about Mr Wallace, his views of the world are about communistic as you can get. He was a free mason who followed a guru who was late in life thought to be a spy, but when Henry was following him , henry thought that the man was in possession of a piece of Lucifer's crown. Progressive.s are socialists Fascist's are just rt wing socialists they are the same
That's the level of intelligence of the majority of Americans - bet he was American no doubt. They think they're safe with the funny money, they should look at Zimbabwe to see what the inbreds have in store for the hamsters.
German people know all about deliberate social genocide.
Scott, your grandfather was a genius. I'm a big fan.
ibykus1981 4 weeks ago
Henry Wallace was at worst a Stalinist traitor, at best a clown manipulated by bloodthirsty mass-murderers to advance Communism around the world and in the United States.
The employment rolls of his Agricultural Adjustment Administration during the 1930's were loaded with Stalin agents, and he never stopped from defending any spy during his lifetime. His and other descriptions of the trip he took thru the Soviet Union are at the same time laughable and almost horrifying.
RuflessRecords 10 months ago
@RuflessRecords I guess all of his ideas of racial and gender equality, fears of people hurting the environment and ideas of creating an agreeable foreign policy background was bad for America too. Not to mention he was an agricultural revolutionary that completely redesigned how Americans, and more specifically Iowans, farm and operate. Also, he was highly trusted by FDR, heading foreign policy committees and discussions. Yup, what an ass. (sarcasm).
dgp242 3 months ago
Henry Wallace on Stalin's Gulags where millions of innocent people were murdered or worked to death, after visiting one on an overseas trip as Sec of State:
They are "a combination of the TVA (Tennessee Valley Authority) and the Hudson's Bay Company".
Must be nice being in a death camp in a slave nation like the USSR and have free citizens from other places come over and describe the death camp as wonderful.
Huhuh, just like Hudson's Bay Company.
RuflessRecords 10 months ago
why not base the Wallace Global Fund on wallace's post-korean war attitudes, after he discovered he was being used and denounced stalin? it took a lot of courage for him to leave the progressive party and put the final nail in the coffin of organized old left stalinism, which i think is his true lasting legacy
pushups2345 11 months ago
@pushups2345 He was always aware of the socialists, also asking them to leave him alone and run their own candidate for the elections, thereby most likely getting him up to 3 million more votes. The communists destroyed Wallace.
ibykus1981 4 weeks ago
Fascism, the merging of government and large corporations. Isn't that what Obama is doing now? GM? Goldmann Sachs? Bank of America? GE?
bookhound63 1 year ago
@bookhound63 Yes. Very true. That's why the conservative attack on Marxism and socialism is so ludicrous and furthermore undoubtedly empirically false. The Business Party of the United States has two factions, Democrats and Republicans. The system of electing elites chosen from a group of elites by the group of elites is called polyarchy. It's democracy of the rich elites. It is similar system to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania. The Grand Duke was elect, chosen from the nobility by the nobility.
youngbuck189 1 year ago 5
@youngbuck189 Marxism leads to socialism, which leads to communism, which leads to fascism. End of story. They are all of the same ilk.
bookhound63 1 year ago
@bookhound63 No, thats not in any way correct. Fascism is collaboration of private corporations and government to form unaccountable tyranny. That is the U.S model, in fact most countries in the world are to some degree fascist. Which is terrible and creates widespread poverty, disenfranchisement and corruption. Socialism and Marxism have many more logical and realistic approaches to solving our current world economic crisis. Governments can cut spending, and increase standard of living.
youngbuck189 1 year ago
@youngbuck189 LOL, You just told me I was right and then turned around and said I was wrong. Do you even know what you are talking about? If fascism is a collaboration b/n private corps and govt, what is socialism except govt taking over private corps? Its the same thing. You get the same results: failure! Why do you think the "peasants are revolting" right now in France and Greece? You are being deceived. Marxism leads to fascism, always has, always will.
bookhound63 1 year ago
@youngbuck189 You have such a shockingly superficial knowledge of what you are talking about that it's embarrassing to read your comments.
youngbuck189 1 year ago
@youngbuck189 then why was there a nazi-soviet pact and never a nazi-US or nazi-british pact?
pushups2345 11 months ago
But didn't Wallace do a 180 on foreing policy and support the Korean War?
Vebinz 1 year ago
Henry Wallace, the man who was responsible for adding the pyramid and eye of Ra to obverse side of the one dollar bill.
psyleo7 1 year ago
Wait??
Wallace did not spin corporate agenda??
Communist!! LOL
enronhitman 1 year ago
eerie similarities
not peaceful co-existence but absolute domination
perpetual wars and OIL
iknewitalready 1 year ago
If wallace ideology had won over, we would been a revered superpower, having help and build up mutual trade interest all over the world, now we are a hated and crumbling superpower, for the elites short term fix to our corporate greed. 60 years on the governments we help toppled, the wars we funded or fought, those people around the world remember and do not forget, hence we are now outcasted like any tyrants or imperial empire that came before us destined to fall when they lose all support.
strongbadassman 1 year ago
Ironic, the world hasn't changed much has it since Henry Wallace days. We still love our Oil and we are willing to killing Millions to get it.
Budvb 1 year ago
Truman wasn't an extreme leftist, and neither is Obama. Neither is the vast majority of the American people. That is the problem I have with the term "progressive". Seems like it only applies to extreme leftists who are out of touch with the rest of America. I also have a problem with the "against the Cold War" thing. Nobody was in favor of it, but it had to be dealt with and prosecuted forcefully. The Soviet threat demanded it. Peace at any price was not, and is not, a viable alternative.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st I could be wrong but my understanding is that "progressive" is a synonym of "left wing". Also, I disagree no-one was in favour of the Cold War. Having a big official "bad guy" enemy was perfect propaganda for the Soviet Union and the United States as a cloak for justifying their actions against the catch-all explain-everything "threat".
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos You make it sound as if the whole thing was just a farce, but it definitely wasn't. I'm old enough to have lived and grown up during the Cold War, and it was definitely real. That the U.S. and the Soviets "fought" each other through proxies was a good thing, and a much better alternative to a face-to-face hot war. The threat was real, believe me.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st That the US and USSR threatened each other,notably in the Cuban missile crisis, etc.was no figment of the imagination.(there certainly was an element of farce!).However,on the US side(the one I know best)the lie of the"threat" of "communism"was used to stifle students,trade unions,political dissent and so on, from Argentina to Guatemala, and the Soviet Union was a figurative bogeyman in these cases.Argentina even traded with the USSR while supposedly in a war on "communism".
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos Also, in the case of Stalin's showtrials, those who "confessed" before these kangaroo courts would accuse themselves of having collaborated with anyone from the Nazis to the British and the US, which in those cases was systematically a lie, as these were loyal party members sacrificing themselves for Stalin's propaganda.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos Well, we came this close to nuclear war in October of 1962, and I don't know how you can call that a farce, but oh well. The communist threat was no lie, my friend. A portion of my family is Cuban, and I know what communism is. It is very real. And yes, the U.S. had to resort to rather unsavory tactics in order to contain communism in the western hemisphere, and I say good for us. Somebody had to do it, or else, at least Chile and Nicaragua would be communist today.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st(For the farcical side,I refer to one of my favourite films"Dr. Strangelove).As I mentioned there were real things such as Soviet and US expansionism.There were also more lies than warheads on both sides.My grandad first worked in,then exiled himself and denounced Hungary's version of Stalin's trials.Good friends were tortured by criminals because of the lie that Allende was going to turn Chile into"another Cuba".
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos But the biggest lie of all is that there were "right wing" or "left wing" crimes and unsavoury this, but lesser-of-evils that.
The US had the same vision for Latin America, before, during, and after the existence of the Soviet Union. The only thing that changed were the labels in its rhetoric. Similarly, Putin is as against independence for say, Chechnia or Georgia as any of his Soviet predecessors ever was.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I just found and wanted to share with you this excellent quote from US Ambassador to Panama Ambler Moss, in 1980, cited in the opening pages of ex US historian Walter LaFeber, (who specialised in US foreign policy) "What we see in Central America today would not be much different if Fidel Castro and the Soviet Union did not exist".
This does not deny anything that went on in Cuba. It merely quits using it as the (very false) pretext for US policy in the region.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos this is surely too long, but I'll qualify that: the Cuban revolution WAS a key factor in US foreign policy in Latin America. It is simultaneously true that any time they wanted to crush a country's independence, they killed peasants by conjuring up "the evil commie"which was the language of their power, not that of truth.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I'll admit that my country did unsavory things over the years, but there was always a good reason. And you can delude yourself all you want into thinking that the Soviet threat wasn't real. Me imagino que eres un rojillo mas alla en Honduras. Ni me vas a convencer, ni yo te voy a convencer a ti. Yo se quien gano y quien perdio, y eso es mas que satisfactorio. Gusto en dialogar contigo.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Hi.As I understand it US foreign policy(like that of other countries)indeed always has a reason:to protect US interests.I won't say the Soviet/US threat were never'real'.IN ADDITION to whatever reality(I cited the missile crisis),the "threat" was often used rhetorically.Students and trade unionists, young people wanting to improve their societies were killed and they weren't the Soviet army.Mas bien tengo amigos que sufrieron las dictaduras de los 70/80.Un gusto tambien!
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st
"Seems like it only applies to extreme leftists who are out of touch with the rest of America."
Today the word"progressive" is generally applied to that part of the left that is not aligned with the Democratic Party, and which is generally anti-war, pro-labour, etc...
Also,the fact that such progressives are a minority doesn't make them wrong. Quite the opposite, it shows they think for themselves and not mindlessly follow the two-party zombie-fest.
Vebinz 1 year ago
@Vebinz You can oppose unnecessary, poorly managed wars and be in favor of reasonable labor laws without being a psychotic, extreme leftist ideologue. By your definition, those who call themselves "progressives" are out of touch with a vast majority of the American people, who are centrists by-and-large. This progressive nonsense is just as toxic and destructive as the right-wing extremism that has driven America to its knees in recent years, and just as wrong. Centrist policies are what's best.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st
Who do you define as "psychotic" and "extreme"?
Noam Chomsky, Amy Goodman, Robert Scheer, (the late) Howard Zinn, and Chris Hedges are all progressives, yet none of them strike me as "extreme" and "psychotic".
besides, how can one be "psychotic" when one is anti-war?
Finally a war being "unnecessary" and "poorly managed" are two different things. An "unnecessary" war is an unjust war regardless of unwell it's managed. "Barbarossa" was ill-managed, as well as immoral.
Vebinz 1 year ago
@Vebinz Those are people that I would classify in the extreme, counter-productive fringe of political and social thought. Amy Goodman and Chomsky are almost anti-American and treasonous in their discourse regarding our Country. I've never seen them offer anything resembling a reasonable alternative to our current situation. They are FAR from the majority of the American people in their views. If you're looking up to these people for reasonable discourse on our politics, you have a big problem.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Goodman and Chomsky as anti-American traitors?! Gee Whiz bud, I've been one of your YouTube 'friends' for a long time now, but I'm afraid that I have a serious problem with that statement. You've said here that you're 'centrist' but I'd be interested to hear you explain how that could be the case given the 'extreme' nature of your above comment.
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 Nothing extreme about it. I'm just going by what I've heard them say over the years and the positions I've seen them adopt. I remember very well when Goodman used to demonize Bill Clinton back in the 90's because he was a centrist President, as centrist as they come. To me, Goodman's attitude back then was extreme, and it still seems extreme today. Chomsky is even worse. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Well, with all due respect Raf (and in your case I say that with no sarcasm), I'd like you to define what your idea of a 'centrist' is. I'm well aware that these two figures are controversial in some circles, but traitors? I'm going to have to disagree to agree to disagree with you here bud ;). I'm not an expert on these two figures though, so if you can back up your charge of treason with some examples - in addition to defining centrism - I'm all ears and open to reason.
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 I did say that their discourse seems almost treasonous to me. I didn't categorically state that they are traitors. There's a difference, and I can say the same about people like Glen Beck and Limbaugh, whose discourse definitely sounds treasonous. Once you start ranting and railing against our institutions and our laws with the sole purpose of agitating and instigating anarchy by using extreme language, you do become somewhat of an anti-American traitor in my book.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st So you can act treasonously without being a traitor, hmmm..
I haven't engaged with you in ages but I remember you as someone who seemed able to balance his patriotism with a good dose of objectivity. The burden of proof is on you to demonstrate that Goodman and Chomsky's "sole" raison d'etre is agitation and anarchy. Making accusations of this type without first defining terms and then providing specific evidence boarders on McCarthyism my friend. It's just not the right term.
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 No, acting and being are the same thing, and that's not what I said, nor what I implied. People can make treasonous statements without actually committing the act of treason, and that happens pretty much every day. Just watch Fox News or listen to right-wing talk radio for at least a half hour and you'll see what I mean. Goodman, Chomsky, Vidal, Zinn, and others have gone out of their way to repudiate our system and our way of life without offering a viable alternative in return.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st I can't comment on Vidal & Zinn. Getting back to Beck, Rush and their like though, my argument is just as valid for them. They are ignorant, narrow minded, racist, bigoted, pompous, arrogant scum. If everyone who we thought of this way can also be seen as acting treasonously (even if not as 'being' a traitor - ??), then EVERYONE that we don't agree with on matters of national charachter can be called treasonous. Perhaps you'd be good enough to at least define 'treason' for me.
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 One thing is to disagree with those who have differing but reasonable points of view, and quite another is to point out un-American behavior without reserve. I get that you object to my use of the term "treason". All I am saying is that, IMO, those who engage in un-American attitudes and behavior come close to meeting the definition of the term, and to making themselves deserving of it. However, that is just my opinion, and I apologize for not issuing that disclaimer from the outset.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st No apology needed Sir, I very much appreciate the clarification though. I'm sure you can see that my point still stands though. I have no wish to bog you down in definitions or semantics, but the historical contexts in which the terms treason and traitor have been used carry so much emotional baggage that I think they should be reserved for cases involving explicit acts of wartime treachery or peacetime espionage. You still haven't defined any of those terms - any reason why?
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 I agree, but the actions of the people we have been discussing are so insidious and so harmful to the Country that I really can't think of a more suitable way to describe them and refer to them. Assange, for instance, engaged in an activity akin to espionage, just as harmful and deliberate, right up there with people like Aldrich Ames. Would you not say that Ames can be classified as a traitor? IMO, Assange belongs in that category with him.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st And I know that I'm engaging in somewhat of a contradiction here, but that only goes to show how difficult the issue is, and how it can engender very mixed feelings. People can only go so far in their disloyal behaviors and actions against the Country, until they start crossing the very thin lines that separate disagreement and dissension from outright harmful and treacherous behavior.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st You keep talking about your 'countrys interests' without seeming to realise that not all people of good intent may share your definition. We seem to be going around in circles a bit here. Let's get back to Chomsky - Professor of Linguistics at MIT, the most referenced academic of the late 20th century, recently said that the US was the greatest country in the world. So, explain to me in detail why he's more than just someone that you 'strongly disagree' with. Why 'teasonous'?
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 There are not that many ways to define a country's interests, but the U.S. and Australia share the same interests in many ways. in this instance, I think it's safe to define them as a repudiation of the Taliban and al-Qaeda and the medieval mindset they embrace. I think a vast majority of Australians and Americans of good intent would agree, don't you? Regarding Chomsky, one carefully qualified remark doesn't erase the often-stated disgust he feels for the American system.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st There may not be an infinite amount of ways to define a countries interests, but - unfortunately - there would seem to be an almost infinite amount of ways to envision pursuing these interests.I'm in 100% agreement with your 'repudiation' point though. I still fail to see how hating the existing capitalist system makes Chomsky treasonous, especially in light of current events! I think that Goldman Sachs, BoA and AIG are more treasonous than Chomsky :).
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 I have to agree with you again. In the great scheme of things Chomsky is really harmless and inoffensive when compared to the un-American fucks at the corporations you mention. My main problem with Goodman and Chomsky is that they're generally long on hateful criticism and short on constructive suggestions that are truly viable and feasible. It's very easy to be a critic when you're unwilling or unable to contribute something useful.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st I'll deal with two main issues here. Firstly, Chomsky Vs The Bankers. Hearing you be happy to refer to the slimeballs who actually DID bring the American economy to it's knees as treasonous puts my mind at rest more. After all, throughout the modern age it's been this 'laissez faire', 'negative liberty' mob who were warning all us peasants that people like Chomsky and Moore WOULD be the ones to bring about the apocalypse if ever they were to have their evil socialist way ;).
wasdom01 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st pt.1 cont' - I'm not a socialist, but I'm well aware that there are serious problems with the economic and law systems in the West. These are problems that - in contrast to your claim - people like Chomsky and Goodman actually have a LOT to say on in terms of what would be better. You don't have to agree with everything they say - I don't - but I raised the issue of your choice of terms because I'm so used to hearing the Tea Party call everyone they disagree with traitors :).
wasdom01 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Yes but of course Assange's stated aim is to release 'only relevant' information that 'doesn't compromise troop security' to 'the whole world'! He's not releasing information on troop movements to the Taliban. Also, I find it interesting that you would call him a traitor despite the fact that he's an Australian - not an American. We may have another slight difference of definition here. You've skipped over Goodman and Chomsky yet again though my friend.
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 That may be so, but his unauthorized release of information that can only inflame the situation is irresponsible to say the least, not to mention contrary to U.S. law. And while he's not an American, he's still acting deliberately to hamper the anti-Taliban efforts his country is engaging in along with mine. If you take sides with your country's enemy by tilting public opinion in his favor through your efforts, you're not exactly acting in your country's best interests, are you?
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st But my friend the Afghan civilian population aren't our enemy! [I'll reply to this before continuing the other thread] This is where I honestly think that you have an unsatisfactory conception of "American interests". It is NOT in the American interest to have hundreds of Afghan non-combatants killed and then kept secret, that's in the Taliban's interest. It is only right that the American people know the truth - they pay for the war, in lives and treasure. That's democracy...
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 I can't help but agree with you. However, you're considering as a given that part of what my country thinks it has to do in Afghanistan is kill civilians, and you couldn't be more wrong. That was never part of our intent there, naturally. The problem is that we're operating in a country where a wide swath of the population is your friend during the day and your mortal enemy at night, be that because of Taliban intimidation or what have you. That's not a justification. It is a fact.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Oh no, I never suggested that killing innocents was part of the plan, it's obviously not. The problem is that the INTENT doesn't count for squat if the outcome's otherwise. You've already said that you think that good may come from these leaks but that the leakers should be shown no mercy. I agree fully with the first point and must admit that I have no perfect solution to the second. I am a little surprised that you thought the SCOTUS ruling on Ellsberg was wrong though :(
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 I don't agree with it, but it has been precedent and pretty much law ever since. I don't agree because it makes it possible for sensitive information to fall on the wrong hands, therefore making it easier for our enemies to cause us harm. I'm all for freedom of the press, but I've always said that freedom and personal responsibility go hand in hand. Doesn't a journalist have a civic obligation to act in the best interests of his/her country at all times, just like any other citizen?
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Secondly, the issue of a nation's "best interests". It's impossible to disagree with any of your general sentiments, but the devil's in the detail as they say. For example, the answer to your question about a journalists civic obligation is a resounding YES, and I believe it's part of their training. But who's to make the decision? Would you have been happy letting Nixon make it? How about Putin or Castro, do they get to decide on who reports what? I put it to you that it CONT'
wasdom01 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st pt 2 cont' - is possible to come up with 'objective' standards for what is a legitimate public interest story and what isn't. I'm aware that this is always going to be a debateable point, but I would suggest that whenever a government has used it's monopoly of force to invade another nation, they have an obligation to be truthful about issues such as civilian casualties, costs, procurement proceedures etc. This in no way prevents them from keeping things like war tactics secret
wasdom01 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st pt 2 cont' (b) - Earlier on I said that any organisation had the right to expect loyalty. On this point, I agree that whistleblowers can't expect a promotion! But, when it takes a whistleblower to bring important issues to public attention, they must be judged on the specific circumstances and afforded legal protection accordingly. Grandma's bank account details are only of interest to the Russian and Nigerian mafia. State sanctioned corruption and murder on the other hand...
wasdom01 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Also, may I ask you to define what 'un-American' behaviour is. For example, what do you think of the person who leaked the chopper attack footage to WikiLeaks? Is that person un-American, a traitor. Some might call them a true patriot, a hero. You might be interested to watch my feature video on Julian Assange of WikiLeaks now that it's in the news for this huge leak of classified military documentation on Afghanistan and Pakistan. I'd be interested on your thoughts on this.
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 Assange is a criminal that needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He disseminated classified information and therefore took action against our Country's interests. If that isn't un-American and borderline treasonous I don't know what is. Yes, he may have had ultimately good reasons to do it, (though I doubt that), but that was not the way to advance his objections to the war. You commit treason when you act deliberately against your Country's interests and well-being.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st I wasn't refering to Assange here, I was meaning the actual guy on the front line who stole the files while pretending to listen to Lady Gaga. He was a young American soldier who was horrified by the lies and lack of transparency in the conduct of the war. It would appear that you would excuse this behaviour 'in America's interests', but many others would argue that it is far more 'in America's interests' to know the truth. Were the Pentagon Papers released by a traitor?
wasdom01 1 year ago
@wasdom01 Let me talk about mixed feelings again. This issue is difficult for me due to my military formation and mindset, which hold operational security and protection of sensitive intel in the highest regard. Let me put it this way: I'm not entirely sorry about the young Army PFC leaking all this sensitive intel, because I think more good than bad will come of it. However, I think he actually committed an act of treason, and needs to be prosecuted accordingly and without mercy....CONT.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@wasdom01 CONT...for it, because he broke the law, he betrayed his Country's trust, and he crossed a line no Soldier should ever cross. When on active duty, if you vehemently disagree with something you take it up with your chain of command and declare yourself a conscientious objector if need be. You don't dishonor yourself by committing an act of treason against your Country. Ellsberg's case was different, as his freedom to release the papers was upheld by the SCOTUS under freedom of....CONT.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@wasdom01 CONT...the press grounds. I disagree with the decision, but then again I'm not a Supreme Court Justice. If it had been up to me, Ellsberg would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for doing what he did. Having said that, I'll also say that I am glad he released the Pentagon Papers. Cognitive dissonance can be a perplexing thing, my friend, and I'm not really having an easy time dealing with it.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st Haha, we all need to watch out for cognitive dissonance :). Then again, if CD is the process of discounting evidence about oneself that clashes with our preconceived ideas - usually to the detriment of the persons self-image - I don't think you have a problem there. Firstly, I thank you for such a great answer on that aspect of my question and I am in complete agreement with you that NO organisation - military or otherwise - should be expected to allow or condone disloyaltyCONT
wasdom01 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st
Finally, sorry but I don't buy Americans being "centrists" or that "centrism" is good. There are issues where one needs to take a stand that is not "centrist".
How are Americans centrists on war, abortion, immigrations, etc...?
Besides, and again, it doesn't matter what the majority think. Once most Americans had no problem with segregation, but that didn't make it right.
Vebinz 1 year ago
@Vebinz You're comparing apples to oranges. You cannot compare someone like me who has reasoned centrist views on most everything to a racist segregationist that is bigoted and prejudiced. That's where your thought process runs into a problem. You are extremist by nature. Being anti-war no-matter-what is an extreme position that is very unreasonable. The same goes for abortion and immigration. Your all-or-nothing, extreme approach doesn't work for the majority in America, and that's a fact.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st
You're making too many assumptions here. I'm thinking that you're transfering your own persona onto others, classifying everyone as "extremist" because you yourself are so far off.
Name a single thing that Chomsky or Goodman have ever said that makes them "anti-American"?
Further, you have an unhealthy obsession and over-reliance on the "majority". I repeat to you for the third time: the majority does not make something right.
Vebinz 1 year ago
Henry A. Wallace. My heart leaps @ a Soulmate.
greatbroad 1 year ago
Ironically, our country would have been better off if Roosevelt died a year earlier Preventing Truman from ever becoming president.
ArcticSlicer 1 year ago
It's a crime that you can't talk the way Wallace did in politics today. As soon as you open your mouth the mainstream media would dismiss you as "fringe", "hardline", "extreme", or even "leftist" as if it were an insult to be one - they would paint you as someone who cannot possibly win and should not win. If we want real progressive politics, we need more media coops like the Real News Network so that the media increasingly becomes progressive and a real alternative vision is fully expressed.
blackiron60 1 year ago
That intro got that X-files slash Ecco the Dolphin type vibe.
jp70117 1 year ago
@jp70117 Haha! :) I still think it needs a newsdancer (/watch?v=UW9jcKsLSfQ) to go with it.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
this countrys name is not "AMERICA" look at a map, it says UNITED STATES. the name is the intellectuall property of the citizens of the continentand the world, and is part of human patrimony(please dont imperialize on this , we all are the front line and we all have the ability to resist) let live the popular revolution for the poeples of the world for equality. there can be prosperaty between buissness and employees.
RAPMONSTAR 1 year ago
While this was a good interview, it was disturbing too.
Disturbing because labels are used so freely to convey one message when in reality we need to look at people’s actions. A politician that identifies with communist, socialist, progressive, republican, democrat, etc. will say that they are for the working people. Just depends on its spin. One only needs to look at the current administration to see how alike it is to the previous
We need is LESS government. Do away with most of it.
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
@iknownothingnow allot of this video was historicall, but yeahh I do idsentify woth anrchism or lebertrianismhow about govermant that worls and does what it supposed to do, I guess you, like me identify with the center leaning one way or another( that is if your into labels) yeahh but tolerance and dialoigue is whre its at compromise and the sharing of ideas for a better society.
RAPMONSTAR 1 year ago
@RAPMONSTAR Well said. At its core political promises are about giving citizens back their unalienable rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. They purport that “their” program is the better and just one. The question though is, “Who took away these rights?”
Excuses are made. Not enough blue dogs, republicans, etc; whereas the real problem is there is too much and that there is a false belief that government will help. Evidence shows the contrary regardless of party.
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
@iknownothingnow I do not necessarly agree with you. I beleive in govermnat and social programs like schooling police emergency programs etc. if you look at the politicall importance of the words "liberty" and "order"(come from greek ancient politicall systems.) it has allot to do with this discussion. and its despicable when private firms are put in place instead of working govermant their only function is to cut services while making bigger proffit line.
RAPMONSTAR 1 year ago
@RAPMONSTAR I appreciate your thoughts as I am sure you could provide examples to support this position. But instead of listing examples, allow me to take this higher.
I 100% support that you are allowed to believe this way and I never would consider or support the use of force to have someone change your views to mine? My question is:
Do you support government forcing me to believe like you?
Please think carefully about your answer. Again, thank you for your thoughts.
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
@iknownothingnow no but I also dont like the govermant or coorporate media forcing me to like neo-conservative neo-liberal corporetist elistist points of views that only benefit few. but thats partison politics(ima center lefteist) and dont agree with totalitaristic "it has to be far left or far right",(and if your a centerist you'r a comunist) I beleive in dialouge and tolerance for the good of soceity and human interest. this 2 party system sucks.
RAPMONSTAR 1 year ago
@RAPMONSTAR Excellent. You know that you are more tolerant than this government. If one disagrees with the government, they use force to make that person bend to their will.
Government was meant to be the servant but they are now the master. And an extremely cruel, wicked one that lies, steals, kills and destroys.
Thomas Jefferson said, “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.”
iknownothingnow 1 year ago
wonderfully informative segment. thx!
beholdmyswarthyface0 1 year ago
Now we have the slaves of Communist China taking our future all so the rich could be richer and the middle class could get in debt to their eye balls.
btigtime2 1 year ago
Henry A. Wallace sounds like an American hero!
911truthncDotOrg 1 year ago
@911truthncDotOrg
Not so sure - the Federal Reserve is central banking , communism.
None of the corrupt fucks ever pointed that out, he might be the same thing Ron Paul is doing now - Propaganda
boots920 1 year ago
Republicans and Democrats agree on 98% of all issues and debates on CNN, Fox, CBS.. all fall within the 2%. It's funny how American Fascism, as mentioned in this extract, can be masked by a veil of democracy.
realmann777 1 year ago 2
this is the disney version. wallace was a high-degree freemason and devotee of the russian mystic, nicholas reorich, whose wife claimed to be a conduit for the same djinn as helen blavatsky.
wallace was instrumental in fdr's decision to put the "american seal", all that freemason imagery, on the dollar bill.
his career turns more reflected a n.w.o. internecine battle for supremacy, wallace representing a "kinder, gentler" fascism and n.w.o.
mispistoleros 1 year ago
Wow. What an impressive man. His words are as valid today as they were then. Excellent.
seamoremonster 1 year ago
I always found it fascinating how true progressives and true libertarians have very similar end goals, while at the same time the means threw which they attempt to achieve them is so vastly different. mainly that libertarians advocate for bottom up solutions were as progressives tend to lean towards centrally planned solutions. I am without a doubt a libertarian, merely because the record of history has shown that central planning, whether it be economic or social, always ends badly.
666Qtip666 1 year ago
@666Qtip666
Which is a product of basic human nature. Humans are all self serving, and there is not a single angel among us. so when it comes right down to it the "invisible hand" works far better the big brothers when it comes to planning the economy and society.
666Qtip666 1 year ago
@666Qtip666 Jesus, the invisible hand of intellectual masturbation! :D "Humans are all self serving, and there is not a single angel among us" You've mean you've never met anyone who looked beyond their nose? Or you just can't see them for that big thing in the way?
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@666Qtip666 Centrally planned? I guess you're thinking of the Soviet states rather than the many leftwing social movements.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@666Qtip666 I'm sure libertarian socialists and anarchists might disagree with your notion that "progressives" favor a top down centrally planned approach.Anarchist societies such as those described by Orwell in "Homage to Catalonia" are vivid examples of a bottom up social movement creating what might be properly understood as "socialist" societies with democracy at their core.Libertarian socialists in W. Europe also favor bottom up voluntary organizations like unions to facilitate their ends.
acohen797 1 year ago
Henry Wallace makes me proud to be an Iowan and an American. In the past, there was a fairly strong strain of Progressivism in states such as Iowa and Wisconsin. These states still are very moderate, but the times have changed. For some reason, the Democrat party as a whole no longer promotes the narrative of Progressivism. Democrat politicians still use it as rhetoric to win elections, but it seems both parties have become equally corporatist.
MarmaladeINFP 1 year ago 2
Perhaps we should create a Peoples' Encyclopedia. Call it Heroes! Wallace, Henry A. would go in the letter W volume. We might consider it to be proofs that - Yes! Humans can achieve humanity. And the evolving critical mass of humanity will change the world from the inside-out and from the bottom-up. Or as the Swami says: "It's time we put our energy into fruitfully re-growing the Garden instead of fruitlessly scrapping over the scraps." Shine ON*
MsWolfdeck 1 year ago
My opinion of Harry Truman has been receding for some time now and this video has been very illuminating. Once again The Real News is bringing important information to the people. Thanks.
agitcam 1 year ago
Thank you so much, RN, for giving us these snipits of history so we can put current events in context. We are not taught the real history of our own country in schools, often not even in university. We are only taught the version of history the political elites want to have remembered (if we're taught any serious history at all). It really is necessary to interweave history lessons with the news in order to really understand what's going on, and I always appreciate it when you guys do that!
Sarandib22 1 year ago
Henry Luce was a fascist nazi and cia associate.
The right wing fascists killed JFK and now we have fascism in USA
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 JFK was a douche. I don't like to use the word "fascism", but Kennedy compares with the worst this country has had.
IntractableJ 1 year ago
The Danger Of American Fascism
"With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power... American fascism will not be really dangerous until there is a purposeful coalition among the cartelists, the deliberate poisoners of public information..."
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
@DaHonestAbe American Fascists "claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
-Vice President Henry A. Wallace 1944
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago 16
@DaHonestAbe
100% True!
Mojo1982 1 year ago
@DaHonestAbe Exactly,they took control of the media with "Operation Mockingbird"
Allen Dulles-nazi hitler lover
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 I'd pay money to punch Dulles in the face if he was alive.
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
@DaHonestAbe Dulles,John McCloy both hitler lovers and both on the Warren Commission. Prescott Bush hitler lover and Nixon's mentor. Interesting
themeaningoflife38 1 year ago
@themeaningoflife38 Latvian Nazi police chief Boleslavs Maikovskis served on a re-election sub comittee for Richard Nixon. Even more interesting......
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
9:50 Wow this is so true today in america.
wtfbroskie 1 year ago
Bellissimo, thanks for this. I'm proud to be a RN donor.
logosfabula 1 year ago
Yes this is a MESSAGE to both Obama and Biden!!
mercuryrazvedka 1 year ago
5***** Thank you, TRNN.
JixMa 1 year ago
Excellent historical review, words that should not be forgotten, unfortunatly they reflected, materialised and remain strongly in our social/political present status.
These middle east parasitical interests just keep helping the weekening of its ideological hosts.
doobtribe 1 year ago
The Free World civilization ended on Dec 23, 1912 (Hijacked by Satan Worshipers)
Federal Reserve is central banking = Communism
US Christian based government hijacked by Satan Worshippers
1933 Hilter and the Zionists Hijacked the Jewish Religion - Transfer Agreement
Roosevelt co-operated by stealing all the people's gold - he knew you idiots would implode NOW
NA - National Socialist Party
ZI - Zionists
NAZI
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 You are joking here, right??
385Mercedes 1 year ago 4
@385Mercedes
Ahh nope - The Vietnam war was social engineered to destroy the gold backing of the US dollar.
1971 - Nixon the KNOWN criminal ends sound money - full international co-operation on funny money being world reserve.
See the price of gold ? They're counterfeiting paper to pay for war.
I'm historically accurate - anything I type can be verified. Just fucking google.
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 if you turn to google for verification, i feel bad for you. you'd have better luck with a peer-reviewed journal.
deliciousmorton 1 year ago 2
@deliciousmorton
Its historic fact moron the inbreds have been fucking up society ever since they established the commie bank - Federal Reserve
Its a ponzi designed to fail like it is now.
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 if it's a fact, then surely you could back up your assertion with evidence.
deliciousmorton 1 year ago
@deliciousmorton No war taxes right , they're purposely putting the US economy into hyper inflation.
Price of Gold
US dollar is world reserve its equivalent to gold value, now the dollar won't even keep up with the paper gold price. Proves counterfeiting of currency
1776 Gold $20 in paper
1971 Gold $35 in paper
2010 Gold $1200 in illegal currency - bills of credit are illegal according to Article 1 Sec 8 and 10 - no first you'll suffer then you'll die.
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 please site your sources.
deliciousmorton 1 year ago
@deliciousmorton
US Constitution - Article 1 Sec 8 and 10
The federal government is suppose to provide gold and silver coin by law to the states, bills of credit are illegal currency
Gold Price - market price of gold since 1776 ya see the founding fathers got burned with paper money - that's why gold and silver coin only.
You think the USA is going to exist down the road - no fucking way.
boots920 1 year ago
@deliciousmorton
Central Banking is #5 on the communist manifesto - the US constitution is based on the 10 commandments. (The Satan Worshippers took over USA)
USA as a society ended on Dec 23, 1912 - its been a subversive clown show, wars for paper profit, social engineering - a truly corrupt society with Fascist and Communist elements - all planned so the USA implodes.
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 Put a sock in it, bud. You sound hysterical and ignorant. Take a chill pill.
armyveteran101st 1 year ago 2
@armyveteran101st
Article 1 Sec 8 and 10 - gold and silver coin only so the society doesn't implode.
Too late your society imploded. Since 1971 - illegal currency bills of credit. The American people are that ignorant on what real US tender looks like.
Now they die...first they'll suffer
boots920 1 year ago
@armyveteran101st
Paid to type right traitor - you're a real asshole.
boots920 1 year ago
@385Mercedes
See how fucking ignorant the American people are ?
Their ancestors were used as cannon fodder so the satan worshippers could fart in silk underwear. Way to go assholes of the world.
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 actually nazi comes from the way you pronounce "national" in german (only in latin "-tion" a t is pronounced as "ts"/"z" in german, so you have to change the spelling in the abbrevation)
Diosukekun 1 year ago
@Diosukekun
Well the ASSHOLES that hijacked the US government on Dec 23, 1912 are the same ASSHOLES that have be behind all wars since.
You people are really fucking ignorant - oil spill chemical warfare - moron
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 dude you're brainwashed.
LouieArrighi 1 year ago 3
@LouieArrighi
You're a fucking asshole, you support the genocide of sheople.
Is paper gold prick - that's what the corrupt assholes politicians have been telling us since 19 fucking 71. What a dick cheese you are eh paid to type ?
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 dude, all you know is Bretton WOods and that the Fed was created in 1913. beyond that you know nothing.
LouieArrighi 1 year ago
@LouieArrighi
Dec 23, 1912 - Federal Reserve funny money bank
1933 - Hitler and the Zionists Transfer Agreement
1) Establish the modern state of Israel - that subverts the Torah
2) To make that happen they had to murder all the Orthodox Jews, the ones that protest because it goes against the world of G-d.
Israel Est. 1948
World economy becomes based on faceless corporations with funny money backing it. Roosevelt stole all the people gold , he knew you morons would implode latter.
boots920 1 year ago
@LouieArrighi
I know we're done for - the entire fiat money system is based on the US dollar and the inbreds are openly counterfeiting it to pay for false flag war.
As a civilized society we'll never recover - as planned in 1912 - Dec 23.
Massive murder without the use of bullets - really quite thrifty as far as genocide goes.
boots920 1 year ago
@LouieArrighi
But you're paid to type right ? Traitor
boots920 1 year ago
@LouieArrighi
What's your point traitor - can't debate the truth can you so you ridicule ASSHOLE TRAITOR
boots920 1 year ago
@LouieArrighi Gee buddy how come no response paid to type - TRAITOR
boots920 1 year ago
@boots920 Hang on, if he was paid to type he would earn MORE by responding, surely?
NicosNicosNicosNicos 1 year ago
@NicosNicosNicosNicos
No way plenty of asshole traitors paid to types - they're here to stir things up.
I've been banned for hate speech but youduped won't state what I said was hateful.
Full blown Nazi book burning - US dollar nothing but paper since 1971 - we first get to suffer then die. Satan worshippers like to get good value out of the suffering.
Look what they put Jesus Christ through ?
boots920 1 year ago
According to Lyndon Laoruche, the Brits were the reason Wallace was replaced by Truman. And STalin told Roosevelt son, that the Brits had poisoned his father. Mind you Stalin also said the Brits killed Polish General Sikorksi too.
Mojo1982 1 year ago
@Mojo1982 Lyndon Laoruche is nuts, and probably a Chinese agent. Britain was putty in American hands after the second world war ended, because America pulled the plug on our attempts to set up a welfare state, forcing us to bow to American influence in return for money. We have no global influence aside from being America's lackey. That's why De Gaulle wouldn't let us into the EEC, not because he wasn't anti-British but because he was anti-American.
DerBlitzStag 1 year ago
We need more info like this.
What has happened to the Dems?
Why are the left silenced?
Where is the Women's movement?
Answers, needed, please.
upact 1 year ago 2
WW2 put governement in bed with corporations. We now have a bastard child as a result.
InTheSticks1881 1 year ago
Imagine how the world might be different now had Henry A. Wallace won the Presidency.
klard 1 year ago
this guy speaks the truth around 8:00 - 9:00
slade420 1 year ago
Wow. Prescient guy.
RedTory59 1 year ago 2
WOW! This Wallace was right and the world would be a much better place today if he was in charge. RIP
So Truman was a dick and is Obamas hero, well thats just great. If only people would of known. to bad the media dont do their work, to busy with Anna Nicole Smith RIP
Thank you TRNN this was great, i cant wait for the next one.
kharitonov300 1 year ago 8
@kharitonov300 Maybe you should find out more about Mr Wallace, his views of the world are about communistic as you can get. He was a free mason who followed a guru who was late in life thought to be a spy, but when Henry was following him , henry thought that the man was in possession of a piece of Lucifer's crown. Progressive.s are socialists Fascist's are just rt wing socialists they are the same
mikeoli 1 year ago
@mikeoli
God... how goofy can you get... the Masons supporters of communism... Ha!
that's got to be the stupidest thing I have ever heard said... EVER!
and your telling someone to read their history... ppppffff!
norvman 1 year ago
Wallace had it right
mugm2 1 year ago 3
We have to know the past, to understand what is happening now.Can't wait for the second part.Thank you.
jfAntoine84 1 year ago 3
1st!
arbide2 1 year ago
@arbide2 who gives a shit!!! post a comment on the subject of the video!
mugm2 1 year ago
@mugm2
That's the level of intelligence of the majority of Americans - bet he was American no doubt. They think they're safe with the funny money, they should look at Zimbabwe to see what the inbreds have in store for the hamsters.
German people know all about deliberate social genocide.
boots920 1 year ago
FUCK OFF YOU CUNT!
arbide2 1 year ago