i have a shirt that reads: getotet:andreas,ulrike,gudrun,holger,jan-carl..... one of my favorite shirts! people always ask who they are and that way i get a chance to speak about these heros!
you render homage to a terrorist, a brutal murderer, who finally commited suicide and did all of us a favour! Andreas Baader, Ulrike Meinhoff and all the other RAF members were nothing else but terrorists. What do you know about their victims? Beside the people they killed there were more innocent people killed - drivers etc.;
It´s a shame and a violent insult of the victims and their relatives.
@stockerpel how about the milions of victims of capitalism? people freezing to death,starving to death etc. capitalism mad much more inocent victims then the R.A.F.! all for the benefit of the few wo want a ferari! people starve to death because some asshole wants a bigger or faster car! these people where heros!
@peredebeeste Sorry, but this answer is poor nonsens! So you argue that if others are killing more, the killing itself is OK? You speak about victims of capitalism? What about the victims of all those non-capitalism states like former USSR? They did not kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people? According to your argumentation we should immediately start a war.
@stockerpel i'm not saying thatents is okay,but sometimes a guerillawar is sometimes the only solution! i'm not saying stalin was a good man,he was a paranoid nutbag,just like mao was! and they did kill inocents,but what i'm saying is that you can't throw out the baby with the bathwater! comunism isn't bad (although some things can be updated) i do not want a war,but i don't want to except the kapitalist system of opressing the poor and funding the rich no longer!
nice work, thx. first rafs were real heroes, few ideaists against huge nazi and capitalists systems over entire world. we know thanks to them that we can and we must fight against evil.
@Popper84s Dimwoit, what is exactly I should ignorre about these cheap RAF murderers, thieves and criminals??
That they wanted to turn Western Germany into a ROTTEN COMMUNISTIC SHITHOLE??? And in order to prepare the German people for this nightmare, they already started to kill some people??
In my eyes the approach of RAF was moralistic, It had to be deadlocked since there was no room in Europe for a living alternative to imperialism.
At least the RAF unmasked the imperialist monster. Thats what they could do.
But they never had the power to build a real countermodel, since SU and China failed, a model for a democratic society in Europe still seems to be way ahead of the times.
But don t forget one day soon it has to be done: kill imperialism, kill racism - or it ll kill you.
Schon wieder ein 16jähriges kleines Scheisserle. Weisst Du überhaupt, was bewaffneter Kampf heisst, Du kleiner Maulheld? So Milchreisbubis wie Du haben eine Riesenfresse, aber wenn sie dann angeschossen werden, schreien sie nach ihrer Mama.
Baader had no intellectual assets.He used violence as a tool of his trade and in reality he was no diferent in my mind than people like Timothy McVeigh. All his beliefs were undermined in the placing of a bomb.
@waterloo745 If it wasn't for communbism and the 25 - 27 million Soviets who gave their lives, (not to mention the thousands of communist resistance fighters) you would be living under Nazi rule. Communism and fascism are as far removed from everywhere as possible. Our capitalist masters who are busy slaughtering public services across Europe would like the gullible to believe they are the same to try and convince us that there is no alternative and the other big lie we are all in this together.
And another thing........haha, So much for the Utopian/ communist ideals for Baader was widely recognised and described by people who knew him as being a bully and an egotistical control freak who would not put up with anyone else's contrary view ! Does he reminds you of any other 20th-century German leader perchance ? Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil
One last thing, Baader was not a working-class hero as one poster has stated. A little research will show anyone who is interested that he was a bone idle good for nothing. sponging off the state (ie his fellow taxpayers) before turning to murder and criminality. The word Fascism seems to be bandied about quite a bit as well. I imagine that no one posting here has ever really lived in a true Fascist state.
@richard1973 You are an ignorant and a coward. Capitalism is fascism. See the world and its consequences.Baader was opposed to fascism and that's a hero. Socialism or Barbarism
@richard1973 I assume you meant me although you didn't respond directly. If you want a fascist state West Germany in the 1970's certainly fitted the bill with the top echelons of government and society composed of people who in any civilized country would be behind bars. The pig Schleyer is a prime example, a leading Nazi who was such a fanatic he resigned from the German students union before the war because it wasn't anti-semitic enough.
@richard1973 Baaader was a working class hero as were the other members of the RAF because they stood for the ordinary people who had nothing. Not those captains of industry who had grown rich from their crimes. The actions of the RAF whatever one thinks of them pale into nothing compared with crimes of the Auschwitz generation.
The people who mistakenly think that Baader was the German Che Guevara need to throw a little cold water on themselves & get a little reality check. I imagine it chimes with their sentimental & romantic notions of fighting oppression in this big bad capitalistic world however the reality was and is still that we are all responsible for this world and no Jesus figure is going to be able to save us we need to save ourselves as a society.
I must say I feel sorry for quite a few people who are posting on this youtube clip. it seems to be drawing out of the woodwork quite a few deluded low lives & malcontents. There is nothing good about the actions of a psychopath like Andreas Baader he was a misguided fool. Self-righteously thinking that he had the right to take the lives of innocent people, placing them on the altar of his moral crusade what presumption !!! what arrogance what a twit.
@francescolol ouch! that's not very friendly. so then you wouldn't say that a person that indiscriminately kills innocent people & wile spouting a violent and incoherent ideology is an idiot? well then how about this Andreas Baader was a coldhearted sociopath & murderer. there was absolutely no justification for what he did whatsoever. if he had killed one of my relatives I would be demanding he get the electric chair !
0:37 Against fascism! - True, Against disguise! - True
But against democracy?! RAF struggled for Communism and Communist society has to be democractic ex definition. There should be rather written AGAINST CAPITALISM! Democracy in fact cannot exist under capitalism, since you cannot vote your boss&corporations.
@1912tina1 RAF should be remembered for what they were: stupid, dumb, cowardous criminals or - if you think of them positively - people who thought they were looking for something good, but in reality were shizophrenic and mentally mis-guided pschopaths.
@1912tina1 Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
@markbradleyf1 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
my respects to the gang...
888snuffy 1 month ago
i have a shirt that reads: getotet:andreas,ulrike,gudrun,holger,jan-carl..... one of my favorite shirts! people always ask who they are and that way i get a chance to speak about these heros!
peredebeeste 1 month ago
viva la revolucion! stop capitalism!
peredebeeste 1 month ago
great video......united we stand...! greatings from germany!
vornruhrpott 1 month ago 2
you render homage to a terrorist, a brutal murderer, who finally commited suicide and did all of us a favour! Andreas Baader, Ulrike Meinhoff and all the other RAF members were nothing else but terrorists. What do you know about their victims? Beside the people they killed there were more innocent people killed - drivers etc.;
It´s a shame and a violent insult of the victims and their relatives.
stockerpel 2 months ago
@stockerpel how about the milions of victims of capitalism? people freezing to death,starving to death etc. capitalism mad much more inocent victims then the R.A.F.! all for the benefit of the few wo want a ferari! people starve to death because some asshole wants a bigger or faster car! these people where heros!
peredebeeste 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@peredebeeste Sorry, but this answer is poor nonsens! So you argue that if others are killing more, the killing itself is OK? You speak about victims of capitalism? What about the victims of all those non-capitalism states like former USSR? They did not kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people? According to your argumentation we should immediately start a war.
Please - DO NOT HONOR TERRORISTS!!!
stockerpel 3 weeks ago
@stockerpel i'm not saying thatents is okay,but sometimes a guerillawar is sometimes the only solution! i'm not saying stalin was a good man,he was a paranoid nutbag,just like mao was! and they did kill inocents,but what i'm saying is that you can't throw out the baby with the bathwater! comunism isn't bad (although some things can be updated) i do not want a war,but i don't want to except the kapitalist system of opressing the poor and funding the rich no longer!
peredebeeste 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
а что за музыка играет?
ALLWOORLDISGREEN 2 months ago
@ALLWOORLDISGREEN музыка просто замечательная! а вот кто автор неизвестно.
doligop3 2 months ago
brilliant vid..they fought fearlessly in one of the most capitalist areas on Earth...RIP..heros
3sjh3 2 months ago
what kind of music in this video?
doligop3 2 months ago
RIP Andy !!!!!!!
beanreala 2 months ago
nice work, thx. first rafs were real heroes, few ideaists against huge nazi and capitalists systems over entire world. we know thanks to them that we can and we must fight against evil.
VagrantTheWonderful 3 months ago
Nice times we live in....in which murders are praised as heros
Jockl666 3 months ago
@Jockl666 im with ya dude! being a revolutionary is ok! but murdering people not!!
SuperFriedrich95 2 months ago
The first line is pretty funny and ironic. "Working Class Hero" - he was a middle class university brat. Absolutely pathetic.
Cgullins 3 months ago
just another deluded communist loser.
aranterranting 3 months ago
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Dangerous animals should be put to sleep.
autoskp 4 months ago
Get Job !
Alexblja 4 months ago
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@Popper84s
Dipshit, North Korea persues communist goals, such as:
- abolition of private property/entrepreneurship
- abolition of a free market system
- planned economy/ collectivization
- "classless society"
It is clear that you can realize these goals, by abolishing freedom of the individual. Communism is only thinkable as a DICTATORSHIP.
joaquinveyron 4 months ago
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@Popper84s Dimwoit, what is exactly I should ignorre about these cheap RAF murderers, thieves and criminals??
That they wanted to turn Western Germany into a ROTTEN COMMUNISTIC SHITHOLE??? And in order to prepare the German people for this nightmare, they already started to kill some people??
joaquinveyron 4 months ago
Russia's people remembered their heroism. Rot front comrades. It's time for revolution against greedy bunksters.
bikadorov 5 months ago
In my eyes the approach of RAF was moralistic, It had to be deadlocked since there was no room in Europe for a living alternative to imperialism.
At least the RAF unmasked the imperialist monster. Thats what they could do.
But they never had the power to build a real countermodel, since SU and China failed, a model for a democratic society in Europe still seems to be way ahead of the times.
But don t forget one day soon it has to be done: kill imperialism, kill racism - or it ll kill you.
ThePentagrom 5 months ago
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IllyBidol 4 months ago
@ThePentagrom cocksucker
aranterranting 3 months ago
He committed suicide, when his crusade slid into senseless killing. A fascinating character though.
waltereg0 5 months ago
we salute those who have the strength to achieve their revolutionary identity. Long live the RAF, down with 'The pig System'
0snowytoes 6 months ago
Er war einer von diesen Menschen die etwas ändern wolten. Und wir schreiben hier nur Kommentare
ranraable 6 months ago
@ranraable
Schon wieder ein 16jähriges kleines Scheisserle. Weisst Du überhaupt, was bewaffneter Kampf heisst, Du kleiner Maulheld? So Milchreisbubis wie Du haben eine Riesenfresse, aber wenn sie dann angeschossen werden, schreien sie nach ihrer Mama.
IllyBidol 4 months ago
Red Army Faction forever!
LightsOfCoruscant 7 months ago
Leute es brauchts wieder!!!! Die Geldsäcke holen! Ich bin dabei!
ilor64 7 months ago
@ilor64
ja, aber vergiss die politiker nicht.
androvert 7 months ago
@ilor64 ICH AUCH
123Zecke1 5 months ago
@ilor64 aber ohne leute umzubringen
ThomarioPolitics 5 months ago
He killed himself. Not much of a hero. He was a crash-kid with a rebell habit.
Außerdem hat er Ulrike fertiggemacht, der Arsch!
odbcodbc 9 months ago
a modern hero
ButcherYourMom 9 months ago
Baader had no intellectual assets.He used violence as a tool of his trade and in reality he was no diferent in my mind than people like Timothy McVeigh. All his beliefs were undermined in the placing of a bomb.
AnarchismArobics 1 year ago
idiot!
ThedrunkenDude 1 year ago
they are no different to nazis,communism and fascism are the reverses of the same coin,remember entebbe
waterloo745 1 year ago
@waterloo745 If it wasn't for communbism and the 25 - 27 million Soviets who gave their lives, (not to mention the thousands of communist resistance fighters) you would be living under Nazi rule. Communism and fascism are as far removed from everywhere as possible. Our capitalist masters who are busy slaughtering public services across Europe would like the gullible to believe they are the same to try and convince us that there is no alternative and the other big lie we are all in this together.
MrHistoryman45 1 year ago
wisst ihr gar nicht mehr worum es ging?
amun43 1 year ago
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And another thing........haha, So much for the Utopian/ communist ideals for Baader was widely recognised and described by people who knew him as being a bully and an egotistical control freak who would not put up with anyone else's contrary view ! Does he reminds you of any other 20th-century German leader perchance ? Sieg Heil, Sieg Heil
richard1973 1 year ago
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richard1973 1 year ago
One last thing, Baader was not a working-class hero as one poster has stated. A little research will show anyone who is interested that he was a bone idle good for nothing. sponging off the state (ie his fellow taxpayers) before turning to murder and criminality. The word Fascism seems to be bandied about quite a bit as well. I imagine that no one posting here has ever really lived in a true Fascist state.
richard1973 1 year ago
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@richard1973 You are an ignorant and a coward. Capitalism is fascism. See the world and its consequences.
Baader was opposed to fascism and that's a hero. Socialism or Barbarism
saveyoursoul1 1 year ago
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@richard1973 You are an ignorant and a coward. Capitalism is fascism. See the world and its consequences.
Baader was opposed to fascism and that's a hero. Socialism or Barbarism
saveyoursoul1 1 year ago
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@richard1973 You are an ignorant and a coward. Capitalism is fascism. See the world and its consequences.Baader was opposed to fascism and that's a hero. Socialism or Barbarism
saveyoursoul1 1 year ago
@richard1973 I assume you meant me although you didn't respond directly. If you want a fascist state West Germany in the 1970's certainly fitted the bill with the top echelons of government and society composed of people who in any civilized country would be behind bars. The pig Schleyer is a prime example, a leading Nazi who was such a fanatic he resigned from the German students union before the war because it wasn't anti-semitic enough.
MrHistoryman45 1 year ago
@richard1973 Baaader was a working class hero as were the other members of the RAF because they stood for the ordinary people who had nothing. Not those captains of industry who had grown rich from their crimes. The actions of the RAF whatever one thinks of them pale into nothing compared with crimes of the Auschwitz generation.
MrHistoryman45 1 year ago
The people who mistakenly think that Baader was the German Che Guevara need to throw a little cold water on themselves & get a little reality check. I imagine it chimes with their sentimental & romantic notions of fighting oppression in this big bad capitalistic world however the reality was and is still that we are all responsible for this world and no Jesus figure is going to be able to save us we need to save ourselves as a society.
richard1973 1 year ago
I must say I feel sorry for quite a few people who are posting on this youtube clip. it seems to be drawing out of the woodwork quite a few deluded low lives & malcontents. There is nothing good about the actions of a psychopath like Andreas Baader he was a misguided fool. Self-righteously thinking that he had the right to take the lives of innocent people, placing them on the altar of his moral crusade what presumption !!! what arrogance what a twit.
richard1973 1 year ago
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Das einzig gute, was dieser Pisser gemacht hat, war sein Selbstmord
eleftherios1100 1 year ago
Das einzig gute, was dieser Pisser Gemacht hat war sein Selbstmord.
eleftherios1100 1 year ago
ANDREAS BAADER was an idiot
richard1973 1 year ago
@richard1973 Voce é um facista !
diogocavalheirolima 1 year ago
@diogocavalheirolima really how interesting & how old are you may I ask? 15?
richard1973 1 year ago
@richard1973 Parece me que chamar alguem que já morreu de idiota denota a sua idade mental em torno de 12 ou 13.
diogocavalheirolima 1 year ago
@richard1973
fuck you
francescolol 1 year ago
@francescolol ouch! that's not very friendly. so then you wouldn't say that a person that indiscriminately kills innocent people & wile spouting a violent and incoherent ideology is an idiot? well then how about this Andreas Baader was a coldhearted sociopath & murderer. there was absolutely no justification for what he did whatsoever. if he had killed one of my relatives I would be demanding he get the electric chair !
richard1973 1 year ago
0:37 Against fascism! - True, Against disguise! - True
But against democracy?! RAF struggled for Communism and Communist society has to be democractic ex definition. There should be rather written AGAINST CAPITALISM! Democracy in fact cannot exist under capitalism, since you cannot vote your boss&corporations.
AnarchoTrotskist 1 year ago
is the baader- meinhof complex known in the usa at all?.... it really should be...
DyingPuppet 1 year ago
what is the name of the movie? I have watched it last night but not complete so i want to see it.
ShadowDancerr 1 year ago
R.A.F Forever!
amsterdam78 1 year ago 3
awesome and true video!
RAF for freedom!
TheDrecksPunk 2 years ago
Superb video, great tribute to a true working class hero.
MrHistoryman45 2 years ago
Thanks !
jancsipl 2 years ago
Thanks for the upload!
1912tina1 2 years ago 5
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@1912tina1 RAF should be remembered for what they were: stupid, dumb, cowardous criminals or - if you think of them positively - people who thought they were looking for something good, but in reality were shizophrenic and mentally mis-guided pschopaths.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@1912tina1 Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
excellent video; thank you for posting comrade!
markbradleyf1 2 years ago 12
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@markbradleyf1 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago