How to Make a Strat Bridge Like Floyed Rose

[phacuetwo]

where does the "double locking" part come into effect? sooo, do you use your trem saddles for fine tuning like a floyd? or floyed as you call it.

you could use a pair of vice grips & a piece of metal to create the locking nut as well.

lol

[timmytime1793]

now you will have horrible tuning stability and when you bend notes the other notes will go out of tune.

[ThePestilence87]

Awesome video, man. Your playing sounds really good. I could listen to that forever.

[mrguit4rmaster]

can i still press down on my bar or will the screws pull out

[MatKiller1197]

fail to play jordan

[BadassTidster2014]

can you do dive bombs?

[jedable1]

does it stay in tune when you do dive bombs or whatever?

[michifos]

terminaste demostrando mas tu kill swich en vez de demostrar la mejora de tu puente.... ¬¬

[tpain2345]

1. Loosen the screws while the strings are still on

2. Loosen so much that you can't press the bridge down and can only pull up with the bar.

3. Tune strings

4. Break strings

5. Put new strings on

6. Don't use whammy bar, use the kill switch

7. Done. You now have a Floyd rose tremolo

[SuperGuitarpractice]

I meant to say, close to the block falling out. Also, back out each side evenly. Subscribe to my channel for future demo of this. thanks.

[SuperGuitarpractice]

a quick tip. Cut you a triangular block of wood to wedge in the back of the guitar so you can set the bridge exactly where you want it. Set the intonation etc any work, with the back of the guitar facing the ground, back out your screws evenly. As you get close to the block, slow down. When block falls out, you are done. Hope I worded this where it's understandable. You can alos do this with a floyd. If anyone needs to, I can add a video demonstration later. subscribe 2 my youtube 4 future demo

[guitarlordification]

is this safe?

Like will it fuck up my guitar in the future or whatever?

[FLOYDishliverpool]

What a pile of shit hahahaha

[huio23]

you ar so fucking badd



[rollingstopp]

& then he uses the button for the demonstration--lol

[rollingstopp]

& then he uses the button for the demonstration

[widepass]

WTF was that?

[MrAppolo777]

Perfect way to screw up your guitar, feel sorry for that start

[fingas432]

simple, if this was a solid method it would not have been loked over for this long by master builders and guitar gods, witch buddy ur no evh, DIME, or the like. it jus wont work out in the end.

[snakev10v5]

dude I know its exspensive but your better off getting a proper floating bridge I found I fender one for £169... you may damage your bridge doing it this way. Its set one way so it dosen't damage anything. Nice vid tho I gave it a thumbs up.

[James1toknow]

I have been playing guitar all my life 1974 and you do not want to do this to your strat tremolo.

If you want a Floyd Rose get a Floyd Rose. I don't mean to be cruel but the intonation will be out if you measure it at the 12 and harmonic and the action will be out at the top.

You may think your doing it ok but if this tremolo was supossed to work like this Fender guitars would have set it up this way.

God luck staying in key on the solo!

[PatraThanos]

man i tried it and its really working!!!!!and guess what my guitar is still in tune!!!!!!!!!! awesome!!!!!!!!

[TheChikyChiky]

All I can really say is wow. There is no replacement for a true locking trem / nut if you're going to be doing extreme stuff. As stated before, the bridge should not be that high, it causes intonation, radius, and binding issues. It's not uncommon to lift the bridge to where it's level in relation to the fret board, but you have to completely redo the bridge itself for it to work effectively. If you have the money to spend to mod your guitar, why not buy one with a floyd already?

[zigityzag912]

yea and unfortunately u sacrifice playability because when he raised the bridge. he didnt lower the strings at there saddles.  so they were really high of the neck around the high notes...so i would suggest a better way, this works but honestly just invest in a locking nut and u should be good to go for floyed like squeals.....without all this work honestly...

[casestudyification]

That didn't really tell me anything. And it's spelled "Floyd", not "floyed".

[zigityzag912]

@casestudyification whatever dude ur gunna sit here and talk about spelling....shit u got me...ok but keep in mind were talking about a guitar not hooked on phonics...lets be real....the guitar just shouldn't be set up like that with the parts dude has.....simple unless u want major problems every time u play....then like i said u might as well go for the real deal...and i play enough floyd to know how to play it....god damn me if i don't spell it right.

[guitarfreakRSS]

a better option to this would be to raise the screws on the top of the body on the bridge. because if you do this your tuning will be hell but if you raise the screws on the top of the body on the tremolo it works better. Some strats may have 6 of these screws others may have only two. Most american ones today have two of these screws most mexican strats have 6. with this however you need to keep your strat at one tuning thats it cause if you dont it gos out of balance and tuning goes to hel

[tabotabojayar]

you should show us your tremolo in use..

[MrLecleaner]

You guitar won't stay in tune if you do this.That kind of bridge is not designed for.You need to use a dual fulcrum one.

[josh101491]

u know that without a locking nut ur guitar will come out of tune easy

[sk8r4life911]

thats fucking retarded cause a. its gonna go out of tune super fact and b. there arn't any locking nuts at the top of the neck to keep it in tune.

[SamsIllusion]

@sk8r4life911 bull shit i use my whammy bar like hell on my squier strat and it never goes out of tune

[Vanguard448]

For an extra Floyd-esque addition, put on locking or roller saddles and a locking nut. It will keep the tuning rock solid.

Great video. Will have to try this if I ever get the Squier Bullet I've been looking at (it's going to be a slide/modification workhorse).

[xXshalowXx]

if it cant do hamonics its nit a floys

[GrunesMannchen]

its called floyd rose, not floyed rose....

[FuhrerKaiser]

those sprigns are tight for a reason, that will make detune your strat, unless you loosen the springs till the bridge lift fully, but that will change the string action over the fretboard.

[cjdavda]

thats not like a floyd. I though you wanted to back route it or something. all you did is float a fender bridge. congratulations. never been done before. and it still doesn't work like any floyd i've played. it works like a damn floating fender!

[brownbigb]

@cjdavda it is a floating fender. fender trems are floating. so are floyds.

[mains711]

well, ok. you made your flat bridge float. good for you. ive only done that several times.

[sexyduck69]

wat a shit video u tell us how to make ur tremelo like a floyd rose then all u do is us that fuckin kill switch 

[betrayingshadow4ever]

That was cool! I'm gonna do that tommorow!

[handel1111]

hey what's that red switch on your strat?

[randomjunkguy]

@handel1111

a killswitch. it basically cuts the sound and puts it back on for a cool effect. look up the song jordan by bucket head. that whole song uses one

[aaronnekke]

@handel1111 Kill switch it turns off the sound

[BloodyPaperclip]

why did you start playing jordan towards the end of the video? it would have been better if you gave a demo on the bridge after

[ekalb2185]

btw I never seen a strat like that, is that a Japanese Fender Version?

[randomjunkguy]

@ekalb2185 no, its an american strat body, witgh squier neck. custom pickguard (not custom jsut aftermarket) and american strat neck and middle, and seymore duncan hotrail bridge. sorry my typing sucks, jsut got a new keyboard and am getting used to it

[PinkyWontWork]

@randomjunkguy It's not your typing it's your skipping of 3rd, 4th and 5th grade you bastard. Hooked on phonics failed you. Wtf is a "Floyed" and a "Phillups"?

[metalshredder161]

@randomjunkguy or just buy a floyd rose i got one off ebay for $38

[ekalb2185]

lol I was just going to suggest Locking Tuners, I use to own a Squier Standard Strat Candy Apple Red and I was thinking of just putting Schaller Locking Tuners on it so I don't have to worry about Floyd Rose Guitars anymore

[DarthKazi]

The only problem with lifting the trem plate by the back spring tension is the action issue. I like LOW action, which is why I got rid of my regular 9.5" radius neck and swapped a 9.5-12" compound neck. Now I could lift the plate a little and the action would be like a stock Strat. I don't have any reason to lift the bar up though.. sure, I might get better "whammy screams" but EVH never had a problem with a down-only trem.

If I really wanted to have "the ultimate" trem, I'd get a Trans-Trem

[switch0123]

i tried this once / adjusting the action is really really not easy to do.. coz .. if you adjust it too low .. the strings will touch the frets

[DarthKazi]

@switch0123 Get a compound radius neck. The geometry of a guitar is clear: If the neck didn't taper wider from the nut to the end, you could theoretically have the strings as low as you can with no buzzing... however, because the curvature of a typical Strat neck's fingerboard radius is not in accord with the neck taper, you are stuck with high action. Get a neck where the radius flattens out gradually with the taper of the neck and you can have super-low action and no buzz. $100 on Ebay.

[AshleyLTD27]

really cool video :DD

[klabbekodd3]

I thoúgth at first , ´that you had som kind of EMG mic in the bridge position, and that the red button was some kind of switch to save the battery.

I see now, it was a " jordan " button.

Nevers seen one done by anyone else before.

It does give a cool effect if you

use it right..!

[Glockenator]

Huh. Now I have a use for that old Strat Replica in my basement

[jimmymagnum07]

i had to do this the other day with my ibanez because i got heavier strings and it has a floating tremola (SAT-30) and the strings pulled it forward alot

[emckeresk]

Of course, if you do this, you'll screw up your action (which will now be higher), your intonation (you've effectively shortened the string length between nut and saddle), and your tuning stability will go to hell, but whatever.

The vintage style trem on a Strat was not designed to be lifted that far off the body and won't stay in tune when set up that way. You can do this to a lesser degree (about 1/8th inch off the body) and get decent results (that's the way it was designed to sit).

[randomjunkguy]

@emckeresk hate to say it, but if done correclty your wrong.

yes i know, what it seems like. but no. it sill stay perfectly in tune, i have schallers on there, with a fender vintage bridge. i keep it lifted justmaybe 1/2 an inch, maybe a tiny bbit les, just for the high note you cant bend quickley. ive gone through dozens of gigs (in and outdoor) and it stays in tune almost perfectly. nothing out of the normal

[emckeresk]

If you loosen the springs, the effective string length will be shorter, which throws off intonation. The strings will be higher off the fretboard requiring you to lower your saddles, there is probably not enough adjustment in the saddles to bring the strings low enough and maintain the appropriate string spacing to match the neck contour.

Since the action is higher more travel in the string is required which results in notes being out of tune at each fret..

[emckeresk]

So, what you end up with is high action and a guitar that can not be intonated properly. At this point you can either put in a new nut which will result in high action with proper intonation, or you can shim the neck which will result in low action with proper intonation.

Of course, none of this address the issue of poor tuning stability which, despite your assertions, will result with a vintage style trem being set up in this manner.

[emckeresk]

One more thing . . .

As to your comments about buying new tuners fixing tunings stability below, won't work either. Tuners are RARELY the problem with tuning stability, it's most often string binding at the nut, string tree or saddle.

[brownbigb]

@randomjunkguy actually he's right, you are wrong. your action and intonation go out the window doing this. of course at your level of playing you wouldn't notice.

[pzqlak]

@randomjunkguy ya right dude, theres no way it would stay in tune , and why would you have an american strat body with a squier neck?

[AerGuitar]

@randomjunkguy

Naw my man, he's talking bout the intonation. Sure you can get it in tune AND have the bridge up, but as you move your way up the neck your notes are gonna be out of tune because, like he said, you shortened the scale length of the string. And from what i hear of you playing jordan at the end, that's exactly what you've done. You're notes up the neck are way outta whack. I kinda want to thin your guitar is just outta tune but you just tuned it in the video before playing it so eh

[vanmanradio]

@emckeresk You are totally 100% right there. Although less experienced people may disagree.............

[Charmed483]

@emckeresk : I agree it is just stupid also your stock fender bridge isnt made to be set that high it should just float enough to stick a pick under max. any higher and your risking damage to the strings and will damage the bridge. Who ever told you how to do this must not care about paying to replace guitar parts.

[guitarfreakRSS]

@Charmed483 if you use the trem at all it wears it out. I dot agree with his method but with anything that moves it will wear out. Sure it might wear slower but in the end it wears.

[Slash7a]

wow dude thanks youve brought a new porpuse into my old ibanez grx40, one i got my les pauld copy i quit playing it

[JonnyKickdrumz1]

Good luck keeping that piece of shit in tune!! lol

[phonz0]

when i did it..

it does not stays in tune!!!

[goemonronin]

pull ups will put that type of set up way outta tune, just drop the bar til teh strings slack and everything should tune up again.

[t1paka]

holy shit fuck... I have a strat... and ... well i kinda broke the whammy bar... :D and it was like yours at the end but I didn`t do anything like that,,, cool...

[randomjunkguy]

if you would like me to help you fix it... pm me a skype account or somthing.

[t1paka]

no, dude... I kinda like it that way.. thanks for offering...

[benno369]

waste of time i just got a wilkinson trem and some locking machine heads. But if you really wanna get a floyd rose on a strat. You can just put one on for diving and not free floating like EVH's Frankenstrat or Route out the body for it to free float!

[randomjunkguy]

true. its alot easyer to do this. this guitar ended up being an almost exact replica of evh frankenstrat. but outting floyed rose... wether you are routing it or now, will not be easy to do.i know all it is is some drilling, but it is so easy to mess it up. its not worth it

[ShredSchool]

@benno369 when you put a floyd rose on a strat, do you have to adjust the body at all, or will it just fit in?

[benno369]

@ShredSchool it depends if you want it to just dive or to free float. if you want it to free float then you have to rout out the trem cavity. but you have to make the two outer screw holes for your trem bigger and put the studs in regardless of how you set it up. Eddie Van Halens frankenstrat had a floyd on and it wasnt routed and he still managed to do pretty amazing things with it!!!

[EJG5150]

FUCK THAT!!! Dude I thought of something MUCH easier. Have your trem on the body (dive only) and have the springs on the back CRANKED and put a little WD40 on the saddles, nut and tuners and it won't go out of tune.

[RevilationGuitar91]

and you think that that strat stay perfectly in tune when you raise the bar? lol, i don't think so :D

[randomjunkguy]

after about an hour of tuning, it stays in tune just fine. strats have very good tuners when they arent damaged. it should stay in fine. dont talk shit unless you know what your talking about

[RevilationGuitar91]

well, i don't know, i was just wondering

[EmoMetalCore666]

how is that like a floyd rose dumbass floyds can dive boom soo much further down and still be in tune when u bring it up this will take it out of tune unleess u have a lock nut which may help a little better

[randomjunkguy]

i just did it for beginners that want to try it. i realize lic. fr will dive farther. and it stays in tune fine, it takes a while to get it into tune when you re string it, but it stays in tune otherwise. I fucking repair guitars for money, dont talk shit you dont know what your talking about

[LordRavenX8]

i'd be careful doing this. i did something similar and when my trem arm broke the guys at my repair shop also put the bridge back so it wasnt able to be pushed down. Idk why but it might not be good for the guitar in the long run. but if its on like a cheapy squire or ibanez who cares? lol

[fenderbuzzer]

not all ibanez are cheapy, ibanez make some amazing guitars

[randomjunkguy]

hes saying somthing like an ibanez gio. a cheap ibanez. I love my ibanez custom shop 09'!

[LordRavenX8]

i know, but i was referencing a cheap ibanez starter guitar. i'm assuming whoever marked the comment down probably thought i meant that as well. so just clarifying, I do know that not all ibanez guitars are cheaply made. but i am saying i wouldnt do this on a nice expensive guitar you dont want to mess up.

[wpkincaid]

What if I want to lower the tremolo? Do I tighten those screws?

[Ureallydontknow]

not really. its the wood from the body thats limiting it. you can lower the saddles as far as they can go to get the action down. if you still need to lower the saddles you take the neck off and shim the neck for a better neck angle. then adjust your saddles. a little peice of paper is all you need to shim. but I recommended taking it to a pro repair guy for neck shimming.

[SnkJakson]

just put a few more springs in there, thats what i did and it works fine

[wpkincaid]

Thanks that helped. It's been buggin the shit out of me for a while.

[randomjunkguy]

technically, no. but if you really wanted to (i would strongly NOT reccomend) you could carve it out, but that would be just a stupid thing to do

[Screwchristians]

Brother...I've got a problem...i've got a vintage tremolo and a strat...but whenevr i use d trem, my guitar detunes, n' i cant' use tht idiot trem for jus' this reason....if u've got any tips for my prob, plz reply...thnx...

[randomjunkguy]

buy new tuners

[funkyMonk1985]

and santa claus will fix the intonation lol

[rgjmce666]

not a good idea in my mind but if you want it to stay in tune better i suggest you take out the four screws in the middle and it takes a while but get the other two screws to make the bridge pivot on them like a some fender bridges or floy rose, trust me it works

[that1loser]

wow i just noticed my bridge is already floating so I guess i don't need to do this.

[Radwalls]

Fucking retarded

[randomjunkguy]

why

[OVER9000MUDKIPWTF]

how did you take off the spring?

[randomjunkguy]

you just pull it up.

[metalinvalidmatt]

o.o

that isnt a good idea... the tuneing will be a total ass...does it keep in tune lol? i bet not... also, it might work if you had string locks, they have them on floyds for a reson...so it dont go outa tune...

ohh and yeah, i hope that not to many noobs will see this and lossen it tomuch, and get a flying bridge to the face, lol...

[randomjunkguy]

it stays in tune. i was surprised also. it takes about like 10 tune ups and it will be good. i bend it higher and lower and it says in tine perfectly fine

[HonorWithoutDoubt]

to keep it in tune, you set the bridge to where you want it, then you stretch the strings, tune it, stretch the strings, tune it, stretch the strings, tune it, etc etc. after you do that a few time it stays in tune.

[randomjunkguy]

thats exactly right

[Kibbles88]

cool

[keaka070]

Great Vid! Thanks!

[randomjunkguy]

np, glad ypou liked it