This Week in Congress -9/4/07- Center for American Progress

[JohnLwins]

the quote that usarmycaptainamerica posted should be attributed to John Stuart Mill...the author of On Liberty, the subjegation of women, several treatises on economics and the co-founder of utilitarian ethics.

[RobinofSactown]

The breaking of men to military discipline is breaking their spirits to principles of passive obedience, The spirit of this country is totally adverse to a large military force.....Thos. Jefferson, 1788 and 1807.

The founding fathers would be horrified at the Iraq mess, not proud. and Paine meant the fatigue of supporting freedom from an oppressive coccupying force as the British became in America. fand not unlike the US today in Iraq- and soon...Iran? yep.Tom would be pained indeed.

[usarmycaptainamerica]

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."

-- Thomas Paine

[usarmycaptainamerica]

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

-- John Stewart Mills

[usarmycaptainamerica]

What an absolute gleaming jewel of stupidity???!!! Cut and run, strategic redeployment,, to sum it all up in one word RETREAT!!!!

[shellius]

I'm glad you're doing these! Thanks.