@ROCKSyoutub - Please lets not get ignorant - Forget your political or hate points, this is just talking about language, stuff studied by linguists, with no need for political or racial points.
Also, although it gives some clues as to ethnicity and how related europeons are, languages do not exactly equal ethnicity since not only are there mixtures but also conquerors bring language (as well as a usual DNA contribution).
This people still dont know anything.For example in 1700BC those Hurrian clay tablets details talk on ASVA Sastra like eika Vardhana,Dwi Vardhana etc,.
i.e, single round ,two round etc,.
Do you know it is exactly the same way used in Sanskrit even now.Not even small difference.Not only that,that Asva Sastra in a book also exist in Sanskrit.That tell the same thing.
That is the greatness of Sanskrit,there is absolute no change in it.
i RESPECT YOUR STUDY SINCERELY BUT IT IS TOTALLY OBSOLETE AS THE INDO EUROPEAN THEORY ITSELF. WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY BUT TRASH THE INDOEUROPEAN THEORY AND START TO LOOK AT THE HUGE EURASIAN GEOGRAPHY AND READT THE TAMGAS WRITTEN IN THIS VAST GEOGRAPHY IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT PLACES ON STONES SINCE ROUGHY 16.000 YEARS BEFORE OUR AGE. OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SAY DEAD LANGUAGE WHEN YOU SEE THE RUNIC SCRIPTS IN GOTLAND ISLAND, BREMEN, GLOZEL IN FRANCE AND THE CAVES IN PORTUGAL AND SPAIN.
@IdelUralState YOU'RE A TURK MORON BUT IT'S OK TO BE JEALOUS OF US BECAUSE IT SHOWS HOW MUCH BETTER WE ARE THAN YOU AND YOU KNOW IT YOU PROBABLY ARE A MARTIAN YOU FAG SUBHUMAN MONGOLOID BASTARD
@gar0188 Sorry, but I am of Etruscan origin, not mongoloid. Furthermore ancient Turks are described as red haired by chinese chronicles ;) GOOD MORNING :))))
btw. the indoeuropean theory has been debunked in a congress in the usa by two french philologs in 2099. just a matter of time when the first books will be rewritten.
@IdelUralState LOL etruscans dont even exist anymore it was a culture in the italian peninsula way before rome and they are said to have cultural ties with armenians because of the evidence thats left of them not turks you deranged turkic bastard you morons want to make the whole universe turkic now such great propaganda masters you are NEWS FLASH dickface EVERYBODY IN EUROPE FUCKING DESPISES TURKS YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH YOU WILL NEVER BE EUROPEAN NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY
@Vamutus oh ya youre a finn i believe you faggot i dont either i dont believe in christianity i believe in my ancient pegan religion of fire and sun and i highly doubt youre not a turkic faggot on here turks are so pathetic theyve always been jealous of us thats why they stole our lands and raped our women to steal our gene because they all have monkey brains
@Vamutus so u agree with me that turks are monkeys and they stole and raped Armenian Greek and Slavic women to look whiter and to become smarter? they wanted to steal the gene because they had slanted eyes looked mongoloid and the people in the region were all aryans and they wanted to look more like them if u agree with me on this fact I WILL RESPECT U if youre a turk or not
@gar0188 I dont agree with that. Most armenians i know dont agree with that. Turk=person living in turkey, not an ethnic background. Only turkic people from central asia are mongoloid. the people(other than turkic) living in the area are uralics, iranian peoples(including aryans), semites, greeks and mixtures of those, some more pure some less pure.
I agree that ottoman empire did a lot of shit and it was good that secular Turkey was founded.
@Vamutus also kidnapped Greek and Armenian boys from childhood and turned them into Janissaries? which were their most elite fighting unit like the modern day American special operations group or the Russian spetznas
Soviet Union tried to inavde us 72 years ago and they murdered whole villages during the war and ethnically cleansed(by moving them to siberia) most of the finnic population in the areas we lost, and i dont hate Georgians(Stalin), ukrainians(the soldiers which were sent here), or slavs.
"That the Etruscans were Turanians, and that they belonged to the North Turanian or Altaic branch of the Turanian stem, cannot be denied."
(Victoria Institute (Great Britain), Journal of the Transactions of the Victoria Institute, Or Philosophical Society of Great Britain , Band 10, BiblioBazaar, 2009, p.200)
@IdelUralState all of the evidence found from the etruscans their art culture architecture everything is closest to urartian which is in fact ancient armenia so stop with your blabbering and trying to create history in your pathological ways you pathetic pitiful bastard i seriously despise turks for one reason and one reason only which is trying to cover up and falsify history..if you're so altaic and turanian go back to your turanian fatherland which is mongolia how about that?
"It is now generally agreed that the Etruscans were a Turanian people ; the representations of their physical features, their arts and customs, tending all in that direction."
@IdelUralState why are u even on this video? go on turanian languages and spill your nonsense over there turk nobody cares about your made up history by your fascist fanatic government...turks are the greatest propaganda masters of the world just accept the fact that you're mongols and not white accept the fact that real turks have slanted eyes and that you've been raping Greeks Armenians and Slavs for a thousand years to steal our genes........CANNOT BE DENIED
@gar0188 We white Volga Bulgarians Turks have no national government you fucking fascist bastard! You want to know how many WHITE TENGRISTIC KIPCHAK TURKS were assimilated by you raping Greeks and Romans?! UNTILL TODAY 900 BILLION !
GOOD MORNING! You stole everything from us, THE CROSS, OUR MONOTHEISTIC GOD, OUR DNA, OUR RUNIC WRITING, OUR WHOLE CULTURE! Since 3000 years you are stealing!
btw: THE SOURCES I've GIVEN YOU ARE WESTERN SOURCES BASED ON ACTUAL FACTS !! GOOD MORNING !
@IdelUralState lmaoooo 900billion hahahahahahaha kipchak white turks lmaoooo no such thing you fuckin moron youre a fag go throw yourself off the nearest bridge if you believe all this bullshit you just said there is no such thing as a white turk you fuckin weirdo....btw i just figured you out youre a desperate nationalist turk who wishes he was white so that europe can finally accept you I PITY you you son of a bitch go get a life and accept the fact that youre a yellow mongol
Kipchak portrait, 12th c., Lugansk. Convince your dumb mind by yourself xD Furthermore in Yeniseian tombs there are white Turkic mummies ;) Chinese annals from 300 bc tell us about Wusun Turks and Tingling Turks who were blonde-haired and blue-green eyed ;) You are so boring man... There is no such thing as a white Greek. Greeks are of black Ethiopian origin. Go home to Ethiopia, Greece is the homeland of Pelasgian and Etruscan Turks.
@IdelUralState furthermore youre a fuckin moron you sack of shit i just did look at your mongoloid ancestors portrait on wikipedia and he looks asian with slanted eyes and high cheek bones youre in denial you idiot fuck off get off this video bitch this is indo european languages not turkic dog languages
@IdelUralState for spreading your stupid nonsense, turks fabricate history they are very good at doing that stole all of our cuisine too btw yogurt is originally an armenian food not turkish when a turk brought it to the U.S. and called it yogurt thats the name that it was given thats just one small example...what are you going to say next that the armenian portasar(gobekli tepe) is a turkish monument too?
@IdelUralState mountain nemrut is turkish too right? lol you've been stealing our history and destroying it for far too long because you have not your own....all turks were ever good at was killing and plundering
@IdelUralState it probably has been debunked by fucking zionist jews you worthless garbage just like talat pasha who was a zionist shephardim jew himself they have fucked history up enough wont hurt to take this away from us too so fuck you
Gothic? And who are Goths? Eastern germans or Slavs.. the same thing.. maybe you are focus too much on the language while me is focused on the people who speaks it.. like I would never put kikeish among germanic tongues..
Another bold lie from you perhaps because you want Slavs to look like liars and decievers.. I am born in Slovakia and dont UNDERSTAND Russian or Ukrainian if I will not learn it!! ok? In fact the same thing that you said I can say about English as basicly same language as German.. and still you as American cant understand shit what some german say unless you learn German.. ok? going to watch another bit to find other "mistakes"..
You got there several MAJOR mistakes.. Baltic languages belong into GERMANIC branch of languages.. Second one, Czechs and Poles are not eastern Europe but more or less central - I am dare to say western Europe, because the centre of Europe is in perticular place in Slovakia - and as you know.. Slovakia is eastwards form Czech republic.. Slovakia being central Europe cannot have its western neibor to be eastern Europe.. ok? simple logic.. If you dont know it - it is simply your mistake!!
wrong! the celtic, tocharian languages and proto iranic too were from agglutinative proto-langugage like the magyar (hungarian is not real, coz it was türk). the nerest word bush relative of hungarian language is the celtic and the sumerian conclusion in the past the "aryans" spoke in agglutinative.
@VendPrekmurec I could not find, Why you Europeans don't believe in Sanskrit as their great grand mother language??? Oldest scripts are found in Sanskrit & in India.
@ynrldh because Sanskrit was Artificial language in Saraswati and Prajapati. We Slovenians remained poems / oral Veda as "knowledge" and legends about "Krishna" (in plural), known as Kresnik as "heavenly warrior with golden hair flying on golden coach(=Vimana) in the sky, fighting against the queen of the snakes(Nagas - Asuras - Anunnaki - Extraterrestrials / the ones from Naga Loka(snake star constellations)...
@VendPrekmurec if Sanskrit was artificial language, How can it survive more than 8000 years til now???You Slovenians remain poems/oral only why??? What was the Script/ writings of Slovenian Language???If you people also using word of Sanskrit, How can you justify Slovenian language is the mother of Sanskrit.There may be one or twc myths in Slovenian language, Have you read Mahabharata???
@ynrldh I did not say that Slovenian or Lithuanian like are "mother" languages of Sanskrit. I've said they are archaic and share the same archaic roots like Sanskrit... With paradoxical claim that "1. were kentum languages"; many linguists make fake proposals about "developing of Indo-European language"... oldest "Indo-European" language looked like old Rig Vedic Sanskrit - closer to Satem (Slavic) group, in India with elements of old Hindu languages... still 5000 BC there was a great
@ynrldh territory on current lands of Russia, northern Europe, Balkan, Egypt, Israel, Mesopotamia, parts of America and further... This happened before "Mahabharata" wars... Mahabharata means "Maha " (dispersion, great) and bharata or Rata means "war"...After that whole world changed.
@ynrldh "You are claiming Your Vedas were destroyed by Christians?"" yes. There were Christian vs "pagan" bloody wars in Europe. After arrival of Goths - especially Teutonic Yahwistic "Ordo" (order) to Germany, they killed most of old Veneti (old Slavs) and started with assimilation / germanisation... Old believers were destroyed, the same happened with libraries all over the Europe. Note that "Romans" destroyed also Etruscan libraries in Rome, Egyptians Alexandrian libraries, etc
@ynrldh There were many Vedas in old times; most of them were destroyed with ancient libraries until today by A'Brahamic (Anti Brahmanic) dark forces, including priests of Sumeria and Egypt (Osirian = Asuras priesthood)... the ones in Rome, Pelasgian Athens, Chaldean Aryan city of Ur (pre-Semitic), Mayan, Incan, Aztec temples... and of course Slavic "pagan" cities and temples. Only oral mythology survived until today. Most of these poems were assimilated into Christian motives and figures
@VendPrekmurec First of all Vedas had been chanting orally. You are claiming Your Vedas were destroyed by Christians? Can you provide a single Script of your Vedas to strength your view????
@ynrldh about a "script". There in Europe remained Vedic scripts - in oral as poems; watch?v=9rD6_YmyeGI. In Germany remained Muspili song, which is in fact equal to legendary Book of Kolbrin (before was absorbed into Christian view)in Bulgaria remained Veda Slovena -which are not hoax(instead many "historians" believe that these songs are fake (note that here was proclaimed as a hoax everything which has Vedic elements, including cultural, linguistic elements) Book was forbidden until year 2000
@ynrldh Example Book of Kolbrin has Druidic influennce about the "Great catastrophes - which appeared many times ago(Legendary "Atlantis" is included) on this Earth(pre-12 000 BC)brought to Egypt, where also Yahwistic Bible was written with its own versions(Asuras,Osiris - Bacchus - Yehowa cult of the dead) and derived into Europe as Christianity, Islam or Judaism
Druids were ancient Vedic priests, which real name was "Tritsy" - "The ones who know the Trinity", when others were Volkhvs or Veduns
@ynrldh I don't want to argue with you at all...I will only say all best to you and continue with seeking the truth; perhaps be next time more open minded for things beyond the wall. The truth as you see it comes from your inner self; it should not come to you from others... that's why it is important to become an observer...
@VendPrekmurec Nope the Sumerian temples spoke Sumerian high language eme-ngir which was the prestigefull version of Sumerian. Ur was a Sumerian city and Sumerian was not a Indo-European language, The native american civilizations have nothing to do with vedic civilizations.
@Eopyk high civilization did not start 5000 BC in Afro Semitic Sumeria... but are much more older; Sumerian(Chaldean) starts cca 31 000 BC and Egyptian "few" years later; cca 23 280 BC... Ptah = 10 Šars = Aloros or Alarus; now count all these antediluvian dynasties as i've posted to you... Both Manetho and Berosos were totally correct about pre-flood civilizations... only arrogant western & osirian(yahwistic) "historians" never understood this...
@Eopyk And Vishnu comes from Visnyii or Vishyi, which means "The one who is high"; not in the body... Vishnya as a "Cherry tree" in bloom; where bloom represents "Brahma"; this is structure of the entire universe... and universes in total.
@Eopyk From "Krishna" derived Egyptian "Krst" of Osiris ("lord of the underworld - hell" = Vedic Asura ), FAKE father of Heru or "Horus"; where Horus = Slavic god Hors or Horo (remain is "pagan" "Horovod"; which means "cycle"; "It goes up in the east and goes down in the west" which is not only a Sun btw, but the part of the All seeing eye (Svetovid)) and from there derived Osiris (Bacchus) cult of "Krst-os" or Kristos or "Christ" in later Byzantiun;"Incarnated god into the flesh- Jesus Christ"
@VendPrekmurec Sorry to say this but all infro you said is bullshit with no basis in peer reviewed reasearch or science. You need to back it up with evidence. I know enough about IE languages to know what you is crap.
@Eopyk Prakrit is another form of Sanskrit; which was created in era of "Great" Ashoka; who concealed the original Vedanta; and created Buddhism ("buda"- "waking up"); into "Nirvana" (Mir Vana in Slavic or "Peace, realm outside") also called "NAV" (this is Nifl-Heim) or "HELL" (Astral realm). This is Egyptian Osiris's Duat, which was in Nag Hammadi texts "converted" into "Heaven" - which became "Heaven" in Christianity, Judaism and Islam...
unfortunately, i can't see the picture clearly. and i wonder y indian and persian are considered as indo-european language? weird! aren't it an asian language? it is geographically too far from europe btw.
@Eopyk what do mean by common origin? Caucasian? and for indian languages alphabets (hindi, urdu, etc), as we can see nowadays, they look like dravidians alphabets such as Tamil, Malayalam and so on. but why they didn't consider dravadian languages as indo-european languages?
@MsBilamana P 1 No not caucasian we are speaking linguistics. Writting systems are not the same as relation of language., Language relation is based on sound laws and grammatical and phonectic correspondence. Language change with rules and these rule bound changes causes languages to diverge over time, For an example initial Sanskrit bh corresponds with Ancient Greek ph and English b. From these you get phratēr, bhrātṛ and English brother. Just as a simple example.
P 2 Dravadian do not have that correspondence neither grammaticaly or phoneticly it is a diffrent language familiy. Problem is that certain Indian nationalist overact how ancient Sanskrit is and think that it is a conspearicy splitting India apart. How ever this is incorrect. It is just a linguistic question and shall remain such. Indo-European spread with the spread of wagons, domesticated horses and horse riding from the Eurasian stepp only 6000 years ago
brahmi to Sanskrit & Tamil from them all others born... Telugu has influence of both so I can see the connection... All indian languages have same root and all root back to bank of Saraswthi...
@Saraswathiputra It can be proven because sound laws change regulary as does grammar with few exeptions. What is next your goinh to argue that Punjab and Hindi are not relatred ?
@Saraswathiputra It can be proven because sound laws change regulary as does grammar with few exeptions. What is next your going to argue that Punjab and Hindi are not relatred ?
@Saraswathiputra The common vocab root one can find include snow, horses, wagons an the like the common technological roots and envriomental roots speak for a colder enviroment. That as one in the stepps of Eurasia and central asia. Indo-European languages spread correspond with the spread of the domesticated horse and wagons from the stepp. Read ''The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'' By David W.Anthony
Mahabad was the first monotheist prophet in the history of mankind and where he was nominated as prophet? After 44 years of research I have discovered that the birthday of this reverend prophet was 3593 years before the birth of Zoroaster i.e. 9700 years B.C. or 11697 years ago (retroactive to 1997). This prophet who has remained veiled as yet was living in a country known as Iranovich in the world and he was the founder of the first monotheist religion of ancient times that is Mehr
@Saraswathiputra P 1 And well your wrong about archeology, and genetics as well. No the compariative method is used to prove language relation via mathametical correspondence in sound laws and grammar. This is done with the Indo-European language family and we see without a doubt that they are related. Also this is a linguistic question so one has to use linguistics to prove or disprove it. Genetics and archeology can be tooles but they say nothing ultimate about linguistics
@Saraswathiputra P 2 And speaken of archeology. The spread of IE languages is associated with the spread of the domesticated and horse and wagons from the Eurasian stepp. These where also exelent traders and religios and philosophical belives that made it possibel fro them to convert and assmilate other people into there culture. For an example in early India anyone was considerd Aryan as long as they did the rituals and sacrifices right and it hade to be in the right language
@Saraswathiputra So even many with none-sanskrit names where adapted into the group. No massive migration was ever needed because it was primarly cultural spread.
There is no doubt that Hindi is related to English or that Sanskrit is closley related with Old Persian or Ancient Greek, There morphology and sound laws corresponds to the level that they have to come from one common source. A tip to you count in Sanskrit and then Latin and then Ancient Greek and then count Tamil. You will see :)
@Saraswathiputra Read the book ''The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'' Bu David W.Anthony if your interested with the archeological aspects of this language familiy.
@Saraswathiputra Read the book ''The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'' Bu David W.Anthony if your interested with the archeological aspects of this language familiy. And the current evidence.
Do you know the details of the Tamil is exactly the same.
As per Tamil literature,Tamil was found by Sage Agastya(He was called as son of Arya by Tamil texts) with the same Sanskrit Grammar,for he utilized those local orally existing dialects.Simple!
See,how these moron spreading lies and distorting the truth.
@Saraswathiputra No that is nonsense and highly disprovem. I hope you know that the idea of the Indo-European language family where from the Welsh sir wiliam jones when he was in India. He notices that the grammar and phonological laws, words and roots where so simielar to Ancient Greek and Latin , Persian etc that they hade to have a common root. But that common root cannot be Sanskrit because the sound laws disproves it. Such as Sanskrit transformed Indo-European E and O to A.
As recent discovery dried Saraswathi river,the age of Rigveda itself pushed to 6000BC or still above.
Genetic gives Vedic Aryans around 40,000 years in India and completely debunk Aryan invasion.This study was released in 25th Sep 2009 and first most elaborate genetic study in India with foreign education institution joined together.
Anybody interested to know the antiquity of Vedic city of Dwaraka, other details on its scientific dating and photos of underground city may visit the above site.
grahamhancock com/forum/BadrinaryanB1dotphp
Just put (.)where I have written as dot and before com.Dont copy and paste.You wont get the site.
The vedic corpus is so huge,for example in the entire Greek literature all combined not even 10% of Vedic literature which exclude thousands and thousands of manuscripts still sleeping in many libraries of India and abroad yet to be deciphered!
so,as per you people argument those Vedic Aryans got mysterious knowledge on touching the soil of India to excel those original Aryans of the west in all aspects if migrated from west!!
@Saraswathiputra Ehh no that is nonsense.. Yeah but modern Indo-European studies do not follow the Aryan Invasion theory in the strict matter of the sense, But Indo-European spread with metalurgy, wagons, and the domesticated horse and massive trade, People could become part of the Indo-European community as long as they did the rituals right and where part of the cultural community.
Oldest indo-European proto language was Vedic archaic Sanskrit of Rigveda which as per modern dried Saraswathi discovery belonged 6000 BC or still above.
@Saraswathiputra the oldest writings are 1. the sumerian writing(3500 b.chr.) then came the egyptians and the elamites
first indo-iranic ppl that came to north india came to there not earlier than 4000 years ago, there lived in india everywhere dravidians @that time, the indian indo-iranic ppl the old best known tribe there were the vedians they wrote in sanskrit from which were not found older writings than from the time 1500 before christ, ask everywhere, 6000 before chr. vedians didnt existed
@uoitofsogroj ..the scythians didn't know them (teutonians/germanians) before, all they had their own indoeuropean languages/ language groups, so some greek words came to other indoeuropean languages but those main words (the linguistic scientics will be say it too) like words from the family religious words hose animals and nature and farmer things :D you know these words mostly have real old indoeuropean roots. for exaple maybe one of the oldest indoeuropean words ist "ar" it means "sun"
@uoitofsogroj ..does not have to be greek cause they had influence from the hethitian empire. lingual and cultural influence of greeks came 1000 years later or so. 3500-4000 years ago greeks were a little population and their time came later.
for example: the scythians -like homer wrote he visited the "okeanos of the world" he means the north region of the black sea, the greeks didnt met the scythians really before, the scythians and other folks, like the old germanians in the north europe ...
@uoitofsogroj beacause look the earliest indo-european language that was documented is the HETHITIAN language and they came sure from ossetia or armenia or the don region to anatolia a little more than 4000 years ago and at that time in greece a lot of folks that settled there were NON-indoeuropean like in turkey too there lived the hatti and kaskians plp, and luwians came with the hethitians and were in the same indo-european anatolian group you know so the word "lali"(luwian f. language) ...
@uoitofsogroj wha hahaha "4-0 for me" chill your life hombre xD ookk what u wanna say is that greek plp hada language influence at the antique time on the other folks right? a kind of lingual influence maybe they had, especially at the time after homer,but how u write sounds like near all indo-european words are from the greeks thats not true of course cause the biggest part of the words has it origin in the EaRLIEST (PROTO-)INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGE which goes back thousands of years before homer!
@uoitofsogroj but the thing is the old greeks and rome/romans had a connection a long time so more words could come from one language to another so from rome's latin language words came to french and english because of the katholic church language latein
yes latin words came through the latin empire but greek words came through the bible and also through the latin language which has many greek words just latinized
Especially in the science we have I would say 80% greek words and 20% latin words
Not a single indian or chinese etc, perhaps some arabic like Algebra or Alcohol
@uoitofsogroj No and in Ancient Greek it was phratér btw the English word share a common root with the Greek but is from Proto-Indo-European bʰréh₂tēr and follows sound correspondence, Greek for an example altered bʰ to ph and Proto-Germanic the same branch that English descend from alterd bʰ to b.
And daughter again is a Indo-European root the same rool applies, Greek unvoiced the initial consonant while Germanic lost the asperation.
@Eopyk Buddy I challenge you that Hindi & Telugu complete grammer is same. and 20 owels 36 constanants smae pronunciation with different look tonn of similar words.. how can one be indo-uropian other be dravidian... Both the languages have same 'sandhi's, 'Alankara' and many more...?? its utterly stupid non-content classification....
@pskumar2008 Ehh no. From all I know Dravidan languages tend not to distinguish voiced and asperiated consonants. The bh and dh and th and kh and b and d and g of Sanskrit. They might write them down. How ever some like Tamil do not. And they tend to lack silibants s like sounds.
There grammar overall differ more from classical Sanskrit then Ancient Greek and Latin does.
@Eopyk Thats what I am telling you buddy, you might not know about All south-Indian languages... In telugu you have all kinds of letters are there in addition to devnagri.. similarly in kannada... if ever learn telugu you will for sure say that hindi & telugu are same... And obviously there are similarities with tamil so all are connected and modified from brahmi nothing else... 'It's just Europian domination' that making you argue nothing else..
@Eopyk You better know about telugu (a Dravidian) language then your arguements might change if your really want to know the truth.. Just here you are to prove your points its ok.. I get it.. if britishers can write 3 big volumes of Indian history to completely subjugate indian glory (which taken back later after realizing the demoness), then simple concept of 'Language tree' (Separating india into north & south) not big deal my mother india can bare that wound too...
@pskumar2008 Dravidian languages are simply not in the same language family as Hindi and Indo-Aryan languages.. No big deal Saamie languages spoken i northen Sweden are not in the same language familiy as Swedish no big deal . Linguisticly Indo-Aryan languages belong to the Indo-Iranian languages and them they self belong to the Indo-European familiy of languages. Dravidian do not share the smae phonetic and grammatical elements that signifay Indo-European languages traditionaly.
@pskumar2008 Counting in Tamill ondru, irendu, moondru,nangu, ainthu And in Sanskrit, éka,dvi, tri,catúr,pañca.
No lets compare Persian numeral yek , do, se , chahar , panj, Swedish ett två, tre. fyra, fem , Russian, Odin,dva,tri,chyetirye,pyat. Latin Unus, duo , tres, quattuor, quinque etc and of course English one two three four five Is Sanskrit numeral seem more connected with Tamill than other indo-European languages ?
@Eopyk Oldest Sanskrit was closer to old Slavic than Tamil; besides Krishna, VIshnu, Brahma, Shiva, Rudra, Varuna, Veda, dual conjugations of verbs are STILL in use in Slavic languages, when in Tamil, Hindu not
@VendPrekmurec Yeah because Slavic overall very conservative Indo-European languages. How ever they lost the proto language voiced asperiates and compared to Indo-Iranian languages liek Sankrit preserced syllabilic l in certain conditions.
@Eopyk "Yeah because Slavic overall very conservative Indo-European languages. How ever they lost the proto language voiced asperiates and compared to Indo-Iranian languages liek Sankrit preserced syllabilic"
you are wrong...
Slavic never "developed" from any "Iranian" or "Indian"... All Sanskrit words are still in use in all Slavic languages today totally...
includes Dual conjugations of verbs; like in Slovenian language; hindus don't have it. Why? Because Vedas were brought TO Saraswati
@Eopyk and Prajapati by Aryans who spoke similar language as Prakrit (old Slavic) from which artificially derived "Rig Vedic written Sanskrit" cca 5000 BC. Sanskrit is artificial language, but instead you can not interpret words as "Krishna, Vishnu, Brahma, Shiva, Rudra, Varuna, Veda, etc, etc" without understanding of Slavic language(you can not translate these Sanskrit words on modern basis of Hindu, Gothic, Latin, Bengali, Nepal, Greek languages without knowing Slavic language.
@Eopyk because Krishna derived from Slavic Hrstna or "Enliven one", "Incarnated god from above - into the flesh", Brahma derived from Slavic Brama or "opening the doors or doors; Shiva as Zhiva or Djiva or Shivat; "life, living one, life force, and "to sew" (remained in eng.)Varun or Varuna derived from Svarun or Svarog in Svarga or Svara; where Svarga in Sanskrit can not be translated without knowing Slavic language of term "SVARIT " - "to boil"- milk and making curdled cheese(Ksiroda) = galaxy
@pskumar2008 Counting in Tamill ondru, irendu, moondru,nangu, ainthu And in Sanskrit, éka,dvi, tri,catúr,pañca.
No lets compare Persian numeral yek , do, se , chahar , panj, Swedish ett två, tre. fyra, fem , Russian, Odin,dva,tri,chyetirye,pyat. Latin Unus, duo , tres, quattuor, quinque etc and of course English one two three four five Is Sanskrit numeral seem more connected with Tamill than other indo-European languages ?
@pskumar2008 Counting in Tamill ondru, irendu, moondru,nangu, ainthu And in Sanskrit, éka,dvi, tri,catúr,pañca.
No lets compare Persian numeral yek , do, se , chahar , pan , Swedish ett två, tre. fyra, fem , Russian, Odin,dva,tri,chyetirye,pyat. Latin Unus, duo , tres, quattuor, quinque etc and of course English one two three four five Is Sanskrit numeral seem more connected with Tamill than other indo-European languages ?
@uoitofsogroj I think you mean inflection forms. Well for your knowlage most Indo-European languages have a large number of inflectional forms. Especialy ancient IE languages
Compare inflectional forms of Sanskirt, Latin, Ancient Greek. Just these three and come back to me.
FATHER(engl.) = batya, otec (russian) = vater (german) = pa lags (tibetian) = atta (hethitian) = ata (lydian) = ata (azeri) = attai (hurritian) = pater (latein) = pere (france) = pita (old persian) = pitar (old north indian)
MOTHER(engl.) = a ma/mo (tibet.) = mutter (german) = mat’(er) (russian) = madre (spanish) = ena (lydian) = ama (sumerian)
TO (eng.) = do (lydian) = (bis) zu (germ.) = do (russ.) = de (lykian)
@uoitofsogroj Nope the word star is native English and has preserved it since Proto-Indo-European. Just diffrent sound laws has transformed the word diffrently. The original root was h₂stḗr the h with 2 represent a laryngeal that is a deep thorted sound. Greek transfomed it to a vowel.
English ancestor Proto-germanic lost the layngeal and made it to *sternǭ in modern English it has becomed star.
So you see diffrent sound laws from Proto-Indo-European.
@uoitofsogroj English is not ismple and what you say overall is nonsense.
English has thou replaced inflection morphology with more with syntax and prepositions. Old English hade a more typical old Indo-European grammer. But as your example shows English still have example of Indo-European vowel alteration.
@uoitofsogroj Nope Greek is just one language of many part of the Indo-European language familiy there are languages outside of this family as well. There is even evidence of pre-Greek languages that where not Indo-European like Minoan.
Indo language-
not Indie language?
UKGLfemaddict 23 hours ago
calling yiddish a separate germanic language is like saying american niggers speak a separate germanic language
Its an insult.
ROCKSyoutub 1 month ago
@ROCKSyoutub - Please lets not get ignorant - Forget your political or hate points, this is just talking about language, stuff studied by linguists, with no need for political or racial points.
Also, although it gives some clues as to ethnicity and how related europeons are, languages do not exactly equal ethnicity since not only are there mixtures but also conquerors bring language (as well as a usual DNA contribution).
dleechristy 2 weeks ago
and you forgot pluto, jupiter of the same eastern indo-martian family...
IdelUralState 1 month ago
You forgot Belorussian in the East Slavic branch!
zenitrulit2 1 month ago
It would help to be able to read the small print.
Oswulf1 1 month ago
HELLO !!!
I am Indo-Martian !! We want to be a part of you xD
IdelUralState 1 month ago
I am Indo-iranian Kurdisch. :D
jerryjonsens 2 months ago
@ VendPrekmurec
This people still dont know anything.For example in 1700BC those Hurrian clay tablets details talk on ASVA Sastra like eika Vardhana,Dwi Vardhana etc,.
i.e, single round ,two round etc,.
Do you know it is exactly the same way used in Sanskrit even now.Not even small difference.Not only that,that Asva Sastra in a book also exist in Sanskrit.That tell the same thing.
That is the greatness of Sanskrit,there is absolute no change in it.
Saraswathiputra 2 months ago in playlist INDO-EUROPEAN: Language and Genes
i RESPECT YOUR STUDY SINCERELY BUT IT IS TOTALLY OBSOLETE AS THE INDO EUROPEAN THEORY ITSELF. WE HAVE NO OTHER WAY BUT TRASH THE INDOEUROPEAN THEORY AND START TO LOOK AT THE HUGE EURASIAN GEOGRAPHY AND READT THE TAMGAS WRITTEN IN THIS VAST GEOGRAPHY IN TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT PLACES ON STONES SINCE ROUGHY 16.000 YEARS BEFORE OUR AGE. OR YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SAY DEAD LANGUAGE WHEN YOU SEE THE RUNIC SCRIPTS IN GOTLAND ISLAND, BREMEN, GLOZEL IN FRANCE AND THE CAVES IN PORTUGAL AND SPAIN.
The17thstar 2 months ago
@The17thstar Its true, the indo-european theory was debunked in 2009 in USA by two french linguists.
IdelUralState 1 month ago
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gar0188 1 month ago
@IdelUralState YOU'RE A TURK MORON BUT IT'S OK TO BE JEALOUS OF US BECAUSE IT SHOWS HOW MUCH BETTER WE ARE THAN YOU AND YOU KNOW IT YOU PROBABLY ARE A MARTIAN YOU FAG SUBHUMAN MONGOLOID BASTARD
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 Sorry, but I am of Etruscan origin, not mongoloid. Furthermore ancient Turks are described as red haired by chinese chronicles ;) GOOD MORNING :))))
btw. the indoeuropean theory has been debunked in a congress in the usa by two french philologs in 2099. just a matter of time when the first books will be rewritten.
IdelUralState 1 month ago
@IdelUralState LOL etruscans dont even exist anymore it was a culture in the italian peninsula way before rome and they are said to have cultural ties with armenians because of the evidence thats left of them not turks you deranged turkic bastard you morons want to make the whole universe turkic now such great propaganda masters you are NEWS FLASH dickface EVERYBODY IN EUROPE FUCKING DESPISES TURKS YOU ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH YOU WILL NEVER BE EUROPEAN NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 Everybody in europe despises worthless fucks like you.
Vamutus 1 month ago
@Vamutus ok u muslim piece of shit fucking turkic shit
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 Whatever man but im a finn and i dont believe in any abrahamic religion
Vamutus 1 month ago
@Vamutus oh ya youre a finn i believe you faggot i dont either i dont believe in christianity i believe in my ancient pegan religion of fire and sun and i highly doubt youre not a turkic faggot on here turks are so pathetic theyve always been jealous of us thats why they stole our lands and raped our women to steal our gene because they all have monkey brains
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 ottoman empire did that
Vamutus 1 month ago
@Vamutus so u agree with me that turks are monkeys and they stole and raped Armenian Greek and Slavic women to look whiter and to become smarter? they wanted to steal the gene because they had slanted eyes looked mongoloid and the people in the region were all aryans and they wanted to look more like them if u agree with me on this fact I WILL RESPECT U if youre a turk or not
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 I dont agree with that. Most armenians i know dont agree with that. Turk=person living in turkey, not an ethnic background. Only turkic people from central asia are mongoloid. the people(other than turkic) living in the area are uralics, iranian peoples(including aryans), semites, greeks and mixtures of those, some more pure some less pure.
I agree that ottoman empire did a lot of shit and it was good that secular Turkey was founded.
Vamutus 1 month ago
@Vamutus why are you so defensive when the subject is on turks? if youre a finn? y dont u go worry about the russians that still want to fuck u
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 Im not "defensive", i just hate when people talk shit.
Vamutus 1 month ago
@Vamutus also kidnapped Greek and Armenian boys from childhood and turned them into Janissaries? which were their most elite fighting unit like the modern day American special operations group or the Russian spetznas
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 I know.
Soviet Union tried to inavde us 72 years ago and they murdered whole villages during the war and ethnically cleansed(by moving them to siberia) most of the finnic population in the areas we lost, and i dont hate Georgians(Stalin), ukrainians(the soldiers which were sent here), or slavs.
Vamutus 1 month ago
@Vamutus if ur a finn u are a slav
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 finns are mostly uralic and some germanic and slav
Vamutus 1 month ago
@Vamutus slavs came from the vikings youre all the same
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188
"That the Etruscans were Turanians, and that they belonged to the North Turanian or Altaic branch of the Turanian stem, cannot be denied."
(Victoria Institute (Great Britain), Journal of the Transactions of the Victoria Institute, Or Philosophical Society of Great Britain , Band 10, BiblioBazaar, 2009, p.200)
GOOD MORNING !
IdelUralState 2 weeks ago
@IdelUralState all of the evidence found from the etruscans their art culture architecture everything is closest to urartian which is in fact ancient armenia so stop with your blabbering and trying to create history in your pathological ways you pathetic pitiful bastard i seriously despise turks for one reason and one reason only which is trying to cover up and falsify history..if you're so altaic and turanian go back to your turanian fatherland which is mongolia how about that?
gar0188 2 weeks ago
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@gar0188
From 1886 to 2009 nothing has changed:
"It is now generally agreed that the Etruscans were a Turanian people ; the representations of their physical features, their arts and customs, tending all in that direction."
(John Campbell, Etruria capta, Copp, Clark, 1886, p.2)
So please don't even try . . . it would end in a disaster for you . . .
IdelUralState 2 weeks ago
@IdelUralState why are u even on this video? go on turanian languages and spill your nonsense over there turk nobody cares about your made up history by your fascist fanatic government...turks are the greatest propaganda masters of the world just accept the fact that you're mongols and not white accept the fact that real turks have slanted eyes and that you've been raping Greeks Armenians and Slavs for a thousand years to steal our genes........CANNOT BE DENIED
GOOD MORNING!
gar0188 1 week ago
@gar0188 We white Volga Bulgarians Turks have no national government you fucking fascist bastard! You want to know how many WHITE TENGRISTIC KIPCHAK TURKS were assimilated by you raping Greeks and Romans?! UNTILL TODAY 900 BILLION !
GOOD MORNING! You stole everything from us, THE CROSS, OUR MONOTHEISTIC GOD, OUR DNA, OUR RUNIC WRITING, OUR WHOLE CULTURE! Since 3000 years you are stealing!
btw: THE SOURCES I've GIVEN YOU ARE WESTERN SOURCES BASED ON ACTUAL FACTS !! GOOD MORNING !
IdelUralState 1 week ago
@IdelUralState lmaoooo 900billion hahahahahahaha kipchak white turks lmaoooo no such thing you fuckin moron youre a fag go throw yourself off the nearest bridge if you believe all this bullshit you just said there is no such thing as a white turk you fuckin weirdo....btw i just figured you out youre a desperate nationalist turk who wishes he was white so that europe can finally accept you I PITY you you son of a bitch go get a life and accept the fact that youre a yellow mongol
gar0188 1 week ago
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IdelUralState 1 week ago
@gar0188
Kipchak portrait, 12th c., Lugansk. Convince your dumb mind by yourself xD Furthermore in Yeniseian tombs there are white Turkic mummies ;) Chinese annals from 300 bc tell us about Wusun Turks and Tingling Turks who were blonde-haired and blue-green eyed ;) You are so boring man... There is no such thing as a white Greek. Greeks are of black Ethiopian origin. Go home to Ethiopia, Greece is the homeland of Pelasgian and Etruscan Turks.
IdelUralState 1 week ago
@IdelUralState furthermore youre a fuckin moron you sack of shit i just did look at your mongoloid ancestors portrait on wikipedia and he looks asian with slanted eyes and high cheek bones youre in denial you idiot fuck off get off this video bitch this is indo european languages not turkic dog languages
gar0188 1 week ago
@gar0188
Google for """" Y-Haplogroup_R1_distribution.png """"
man you are soooooo boring -.-
IdelUralState 1 week ago
@IdelUralState and youre a fuckin moron
gar0188 1 week ago
@gar0188 Why?
IdelUralState 1 week ago
@IdelUralState for spreading your stupid nonsense, turks fabricate history they are very good at doing that stole all of our cuisine too btw yogurt is originally an armenian food not turkish when a turk brought it to the U.S. and called it yogurt thats the name that it was given thats just one small example...what are you going to say next that the armenian portasar(gobekli tepe) is a turkish monument too?
gar0188 1 week ago
@IdelUralState mountain nemrut is turkish too right? lol you've been stealing our history and destroying it for far too long because you have not your own....all turks were ever good at was killing and plundering
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IdelUralState 1 week ago
@IdelUralState it probably has been debunked by fucking zionist jews you worthless garbage just like talat pasha who was a zionist shephardim jew himself they have fucked history up enough wont hurt to take this away from us too so fuck you
gar0188 1 month ago
@gar0188 I'm sorry, but I hate Ottomans and Zionists.
IdelUralState 1 month ago
Gothic? And who are Goths? Eastern germans or Slavs.. the same thing.. maybe you are focus too much on the language while me is focused on the people who speaks it.. like I would never put kikeish among germanic tongues..
TheVeneth 3 months ago
Another bold lie from you perhaps because you want Slavs to look like liars and decievers.. I am born in Slovakia and dont UNDERSTAND Russian or Ukrainian if I will not learn it!! ok? In fact the same thing that you said I can say about English as basicly same language as German.. and still you as American cant understand shit what some german say unless you learn German.. ok? going to watch another bit to find other "mistakes"..
TheVeneth 3 months ago
You got there several MAJOR mistakes.. Baltic languages belong into GERMANIC branch of languages.. Second one, Czechs and Poles are not eastern Europe but more or less central - I am dare to say western Europe, because the centre of Europe is in perticular place in Slovakia - and as you know.. Slovakia is eastwards form Czech republic.. Slovakia being central Europe cannot have its western neibor to be eastern Europe.. ok? simple logic.. If you dont know it - it is simply your mistake!!
TheVeneth 3 months ago
Spain (Latin) = Spanish, Catalan, Valencian, Gallego, Bable, Occitan, Castúo, Caló, etc...
Andalusian dialect, Canario dialect, etc...
Spain (Pre-indoeuropean) = Basque (Euskera or Vasco)
SAACAAS 3 months ago
wrong! the celtic, tocharian languages and proto iranic too were from agglutinative proto-langugage like the magyar (hungarian is not real, coz it was türk). the nerest word bush relative of hungarian language is the celtic and the sumerian conclusion in the past the "aryans" spoke in agglutinative.
ZulcaCarpathius 3 months ago
Gothic is Prussian, and it's baltic language not germanic lol.
shareliszz 4 months ago
@shareliszz
Actually, Gothic and Prussian were different languages.
neochopinex 4 months ago
This cart is fake. European want to capture our languages also. Sanskrit is the mother of all Indo European languages.
ynrldh 4 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 3 months ago
@VendPrekmurec I could not find, Why you Europeans don't believe in Sanskrit as their great grand mother language??? Oldest scripts are found in Sanskrit & in India.
ynrldh 2 months ago
@ynrldh because Sanskrit was Artificial language in Saraswati and Prajapati. We Slovenians remained poems / oral Veda as "knowledge" and legends about "Krishna" (in plural), known as Kresnik as "heavenly warrior with golden hair flying on golden coach(=Vimana) in the sky, fighting against the queen of the snakes(Nagas - Asuras - Anunnaki - Extraterrestrials / the ones from Naga Loka(snake star constellations)...
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec if Sanskrit was artificial language, How can it survive more than 8000 years til now???You Slovenians remain poems/oral only why??? What was the Script/ writings of Slovenian Language???If you people also using word of Sanskrit, How can you justify Slovenian language is the mother of Sanskrit.There may be one or twc myths in Slovenian language, Have you read Mahabharata???
ynrldh 2 months ago
@ynrldh I did not say that Slovenian or Lithuanian like are "mother" languages of Sanskrit. I've said they are archaic and share the same archaic roots like Sanskrit... With paradoxical claim that "1. were kentum languages"; many linguists make fake proposals about "developing of Indo-European language"... oldest "Indo-European" language looked like old Rig Vedic Sanskrit - closer to Satem (Slavic) group, in India with elements of old Hindu languages... still 5000 BC there was a great
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@ynrldh territory on current lands of Russia, northern Europe, Balkan, Egypt, Israel, Mesopotamia, parts of America and further... This happened before "Mahabharata" wars... Mahabharata means "Maha " (dispersion, great) and bharata or Rata means "war"...After that whole world changed.
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@ynrldh "You are claiming Your Vedas were destroyed by Christians?"" yes. There were Christian vs "pagan" bloody wars in Europe. After arrival of Goths - especially Teutonic Yahwistic "Ordo" (order) to Germany, they killed most of old Veneti (old Slavs) and started with assimilation / germanisation... Old believers were destroyed, the same happened with libraries all over the Europe. Note that "Romans" destroyed also Etruscan libraries in Rome, Egyptians Alexandrian libraries, etc
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@ynrldh There were many Vedas in old times; most of them were destroyed with ancient libraries until today by A'Brahamic (Anti Brahmanic) dark forces, including priests of Sumeria and Egypt (Osirian = Asuras priesthood)... the ones in Rome, Pelasgian Athens, Chaldean Aryan city of Ur (pre-Semitic), Mayan, Incan, Aztec temples... and of course Slavic "pagan" cities and temples. Only oral mythology survived until today. Most of these poems were assimilated into Christian motives and figures
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec First of all Vedas had been chanting orally. You are claiming Your Vedas were destroyed by Christians? Can you provide a single Script of your Vedas to strength your view????
ynrldh 2 months ago
@ynrldh about a "script". There in Europe remained Vedic scripts - in oral as poems; watch?v=9rD6_YmyeGI. In Germany remained Muspili song, which is in fact equal to legendary Book of Kolbrin (before was absorbed into Christian view)in Bulgaria remained Veda Slovena -which are not hoax(instead many "historians" believe that these songs are fake (note that here was proclaimed as a hoax everything which has Vedic elements, including cultural, linguistic elements) Book was forbidden until year 2000
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@ynrldh Example Book of Kolbrin has Druidic influennce about the "Great catastrophes - which appeared many times ago(Legendary "Atlantis" is included) on this Earth(pre-12 000 BC)brought to Egypt, where also Yahwistic Bible was written with its own versions(Asuras,Osiris - Bacchus - Yehowa cult of the dead) and derived into Europe as Christianity, Islam or Judaism
Druids were ancient Vedic priests, which real name was "Tritsy" - "The ones who know the Trinity", when others were Volkhvs or Veduns
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec Nope the druids hade notging to do with the Vedic priests
Eopyk 2 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec You claims based on hypothetical conditions not on truth.
ynrldh 2 months ago
@ynrldh I don't want to argue with you at all...I will only say all best to you and continue with seeking the truth; perhaps be next time more open minded for things beyond the wall. The truth as you see it comes from your inner self; it should not come to you from others... that's why it is important to become an observer...
bye
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec Nope the Sumerian temples spoke Sumerian high language eme-ngir which was the prestigefull version of Sumerian. Ur was a Sumerian city and Sumerian was not a Indo-European language, The native american civilizations have nothing to do with vedic civilizations.
Eopyk 2 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@Eopyk high civilization did not start 5000 BC in Afro Semitic Sumeria... but are much more older; Sumerian(Chaldean) starts cca 31 000 BC and Egyptian "few" years later; cca 23 280 BC... Ptah = 10 Šars = Aloros or Alarus; now count all these antediluvian dynasties as i've posted to you... Both Manetho and Berosos were totally correct about pre-flood civilizations... only arrogant western & osirian(yahwistic) "historians" never understood this...
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@Eopyk And Vishnu comes from Visnyii or Vishyi, which means "The one who is high"; not in the body... Vishnya as a "Cherry tree" in bloom; where bloom represents "Brahma"; this is structure of the entire universe... and universes in total.
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@Eopyk From "Krishna" derived Egyptian "Krst" of Osiris ("lord of the underworld - hell" = Vedic Asura ), FAKE father of Heru or "Horus"; where Horus = Slavic god Hors or Horo (remain is "pagan" "Horovod"; which means "cycle"; "It goes up in the east and goes down in the west" which is not only a Sun btw, but the part of the All seeing eye (Svetovid)) and from there derived Osiris (Bacchus) cult of "Krst-os" or Kristos or "Christ" in later Byzantiun;"Incarnated god into the flesh- Jesus Christ"
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@VendPrekmurec Sorry to say this but all infro you said is bullshit with no basis in peer reviewed reasearch or science. You need to back it up with evidence. I know enough about IE languages to know what you is crap.
Go read some books than come back.
PS Prakrit is a daughter language to Sanskrit.
Eopyk 2 months ago
@Eopyk If you know "IE" then translate what "PRAKRIT" means in your "IE" language xD
The same with probably be with others "BRAHMA, SHIVA, VISHNU, RUDRA, VARUNA, KRISHNA, ..." for which you will probably have no idea ...
I don't read Yahwistic & western "accademic" books. I read VEDIC sources, which predate all of your "sources"
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@Eopyk go ahead - what PRAKRIT means in "Indo-European" language xD
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@Eopyk Prakrit is another form of Sanskrit; which was created in era of "Great" Ashoka; who concealed the original Vedanta; and created Buddhism ("buda"- "waking up"); into "Nirvana" (Mir Vana in Slavic or "Peace, realm outside") also called "NAV" (this is Nifl-Heim) or "HELL" (Astral realm). This is Egyptian Osiris's Duat, which was in Nag Hammadi texts "converted" into "Heaven" - which became "Heaven" in Christianity, Judaism and Islam...
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
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VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
What is the reason for you in talking less important things than most authentic ones like archaeology and genetics!
Sanskrit has huge literary Corpus,the entire Greek existing literature not even 10 percent of Vedic Corpus.
This exclude thousands and thousands of Manuscripts still sleeping in many libraries in India and abroad yet to be deciphered!
So,you people expect others to believe that Aryans got mysterious knowledge on touching the soil of India to excel those original Aryans,if migrated
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
I think you are not knowing many things on Dravidian languages.
For example,Take Tamil,the most ancient!
Do you know anything on Tamil literature?
Tamil literature clearly tells that language was found by Aryan Sage Agastya.
It clearly refer him as Arya Maindan(Son of Arya)
As per details,Agastya reached South and created a language using most of dialects those people using utilizing Sanskrit grammar.
All Dravidian grammarians are Sanskrit experts and hailing from Aryan lineage.
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@ Eopyk
It is surprising to see your ignorance on most logical things.Those common words how suggest you that Aryan Invasion happened?
But,the common words will exists even Aryans migrated to settle outside from ancient India.
But,most logical questions and most authentic archaeology and modern genetics completely debunk Aryan Invasion theory.
Why you are very much dependent on secondary things than primary ones.What is the reason!!
It appears that for you,your wish matters more than truth!!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
unfortunately, i can't see the picture clearly. and i wonder y indian and persian are considered as indo-european language? weird! aren't it an asian language? it is geographically too far from europe btw.
MsBilamana 4 months ago
@MsBilamana It is called INDO-EUROPEAN the reason is tha tthe language familiy is mostly spread in India and Europe.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@MsBilamana Language families are not first and for most bound by geography but by common origin.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Eopyk what do mean by common origin? Caucasian? and for indian languages alphabets (hindi, urdu, etc), as we can see nowadays, they look like dravidians alphabets such as Tamil, Malayalam and so on. but why they didn't consider dravadian languages as indo-european languages?
MsBilamana 4 months ago
@MsBilamana P 1 No not caucasian we are speaking linguistics. Writting systems are not the same as relation of language., Language relation is based on sound laws and grammatical and phonectic correspondence. Language change with rules and these rule bound changes causes languages to diverge over time, For an example initial Sanskrit bh corresponds with Ancient Greek ph and English b. From these you get phratēr, bhrātṛ and English brother. Just as a simple example.
Eopyk 4 months ago
P 2 Dravadian do not have that correspondence neither grammaticaly or phoneticly it is a diffrent language familiy. Problem is that certain Indian nationalist overact how ancient Sanskrit is and think that it is a conspearicy splitting India apart. How ever this is incorrect. It is just a linguistic question and shall remain such. Indo-European spread with the spread of wagons, domesticated horses and horse riding from the Eurasian stepp only 6000 years ago
Eopyk 4 months ago
brahmi to Sanskrit & Tamil from them all others born... Telugu has influence of both so I can see the connection... All indian languages have same root and all root back to bank of Saraswthi...
pskumar2008 4 months ago
You mean to say those sound morphology is superior than archaeology and genetics.Prove it!!
Dont tell story!
Nobody could prove the phonetic creation evolved over 2000 years..It is all only theory!
Dont try to fool others!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra It can be proven because sound laws change regulary as does grammar with few exeptions. What is next your goinh to argue that Punjab and Hindi are not relatred ?
Eopyk 4 months ago
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@Saraswathiputra It can be proven because sound laws change regulary as does grammar with few exeptions. What is next your going to argue that Punjab and Hindi are not relatred ?
Eopyk 4 months ago
How and what way Iam wrong in archaeology.Explain me.
Dont talk as retard.
Moron!
You are a egoistic fool!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra The common vocab root one can find include snow, horses, wagons an the like the common technological roots and envriomental roots speak for a colder enviroment. That as one in the stepps of Eurasia and central asia. Indo-European languages spread correspond with the spread of the domesticated horse and wagons from the stepp. Read ''The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'' By David W.Anthony
Eopyk 4 months ago
How and what way Iam wrong in archaeology.Explain me.
Dont talk as retard.
Moron!
You are a egoistic fool!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
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Mahabad was the first monotheist prophet in the history of mankind and where he was nominated as prophet? After 44 years of research I have discovered that the birthday of this reverend prophet was 3593 years before the birth of Zoroaster i.e. 9700 years B.C. or 11697 years ago (retroactive to 1997). This prophet who has remained veiled as yet was living in a country known as Iranovich in the world and he was the founder of the first monotheist religion of ancient times that is Mehr
goran21715 4 months ago
Linguistic analysis are last century foolish things created by egocentric westerners.
Do you know nothing could stand before archaeology and genetics!
Dont repeat your foolishness!
What do you know about Dravidian grammar and history.
What a humbug!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra P 1 And well your wrong about archeology, and genetics as well. No the compariative method is used to prove language relation via mathametical correspondence in sound laws and grammar. This is done with the Indo-European language family and we see without a doubt that they are related. Also this is a linguistic question so one has to use linguistics to prove or disprove it. Genetics and archeology can be tooles but they say nothing ultimate about linguistics
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra P 2 And speaken of archeology. The spread of IE languages is associated with the spread of the domesticated and horse and wagons from the Eurasian stepp. These where also exelent traders and religios and philosophical belives that made it possibel fro them to convert and assmilate other people into there culture. For an example in early India anyone was considerd Aryan as long as they did the rituals and sacrifices right and it hade to be in the right language
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra So even many with none-sanskrit names where adapted into the group. No massive migration was ever needed because it was primarly cultural spread.
There is no doubt that Hindi is related to English or that Sanskrit is closley related with Old Persian or Ancient Greek, There morphology and sound laws corresponds to the level that they have to come from one common source. A tip to you count in Sanskrit and then Latin and then Ancient Greek and then count Tamil. You will see :)
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Read the book ''The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'' Bu David W.Anthony if your interested with the archeological aspects of this language familiy.
Eopyk 4 months ago
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@Saraswathiputra Read the book ''The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World'' Bu David W.Anthony if your interested with the archeological aspects of this language familiy. And the current evidence.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Eopyk
Why you talking nonsense!!
Go through my details,tell me where it is wrong.
I have given recent most authentic archaeology and genetics,but you are talking some not reliable outdated linguists.
Shut up!
Moron!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
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pskumar2008,well said.
Do you know the details of the Tamil is exactly the same.
As per Tamil literature,Tamil was found by Sage Agastya(He was called as son of Arya by Tamil texts) with the same Sanskrit Grammar,for he utilized those local orally existing dialects.Simple!
See,how these moron spreading lies and distorting the truth.
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
Prote Indo-european isa fraud and humbug by westerners.Vedic Archaic Sanskrit is most ancient and Proto language.
In middle most authentic archaeology and genetics,those linguistics approximations wont stand.
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra No that is nonsense and highly disprovem. I hope you know that the idea of the Indo-European language family where from the Welsh sir wiliam jones when he was in India. He notices that the grammar and phonological laws, words and roots where so simielar to Ancient Greek and Latin , Persian etc that they hade to have a common root. But that common root cannot be Sanskrit because the sound laws disproves it. Such as Sanskrit transformed Indo-European E and O to A.
Eopyk 4 months ago
As recent discovery dried Saraswathi river,the age of Rigveda itself pushed to 6000BC or still above.
Genetic gives Vedic Aryans around 40,000 years in India and completely debunk Aryan invasion.This study was released in 25th Sep 2009 and first most elaborate genetic study in India with foreign education institution joined together.
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
Hittite predates Sanskrit.
What twist to the history.
Please read those recent details of archaeology and genetics which I will send to you.
If you have point out fallacy in my details which you can point out,if possible;e for you!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
There is concrete evidence which I can provide if you have guts,you can deny it.
Dont give last century opinions here!!
Now,you people are indeed outdated and primitive your knowledge!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
There is concrete evidence which I can provide if you have guts,you can deny it.
Dont give last century opinions here!!
Now,you people ae indeed outdated and primitive your knowledge!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
Eopyk,why are you showing your foolishness bu repeating nonsense!
Update your knowledge!!
Sanskrit in India around 40,000 years which is proved my most reliable archaeology
What Dravidian grammar or history, do you know!!
Why this kind of humbug!!
grammar
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
Anybody interested to know the antiquity of Vedic city of Dwaraka, other details on its scientific dating and photos of underground city may visit the above site.
grahamhancock com/forum/BadrinaryanB1dotphp
Just put (.)where I have written as dot and before com.Dont copy and paste.You wont get the site.
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra No you are wrong Sumerian is the oldest written language. It pre-dates Sanskrit with several 1000 years.
Eopyk 4 months ago
The vedic corpus is so huge,for example in the entire Greek literature all combined not even 10% of Vedic literature which exclude thousands and thousands of manuscripts still sleeping in many libraries of India and abroad yet to be deciphered!
so,as per you people argument those Vedic Aryans got mysterious knowledge on touching the soil of India to excel those original Aryans of the west in all aspects if migrated from west!!
Good theory for fools!! Is it not?
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
I dont know how long you people going to fool yourself in the modern era of complete communication in every aspects.
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
Iam extremely sorry for your ignorance.I dont know why you people are still telling last century disproved stories.
As per modern genetic study elaborately conducted in India Aryan are in India around 40,000 years.Those Aryan Invasion theory totally debunked.
Besides modern archaeology confirm the above.
I will send those details, tell me where my details are false or non verifiable,if you can!!
Gulf of cambay drowned Vedic city much much older than Sumerian!!
Improve your knowledge!
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Ehh no that is nonsense.. Yeah but modern Indo-European studies do not follow the Aryan Invasion theory in the strict matter of the sense, But Indo-European spread with metalurgy, wagons, and the domesticated horse and massive trade, People could become part of the Indo-European community as long as they did the rituals right and where part of the cultural community.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra vedian or archaic sankrit writing no matter how we call it,they started their writings in the time 1500-1200 before chr.
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@ArtikKaraganda Great to see that there are others taking on these super nationalist nonsense...
Eopyk 4 months ago
ProtoIndoeuropean language is simply humbug!
Oldest indo-European proto language was Vedic archaic Sanskrit of Rigveda which as per modern dried Saraswathi discovery belonged 6000 BC or still above.
Saraswathiputra 4 months ago
@Saraswathiputra the oldest writings are 1. the sumerian writing(3500 b.chr.) then came the egyptians and the elamites
first indo-iranic ppl that came to north india came to there not earlier than 4000 years ago, there lived in india everywhere dravidians @that time, the indian indo-iranic ppl the old best known tribe there were the vedians they wrote in sanskrit from which were not found older writings than from the time 1500 before christ, ask everywhere, 6000 before chr. vedians didnt existed
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@ouitofsogroj fuck haha *herodot wrote he visited the "okeanos of the world" (not homer)
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj *the greeks didnt know them (not "the scythians didn't know them")
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj ..the scythians didn't know them (teutonians/germanians) before, all they had their own indoeuropean languages/ language groups, so some greek words came to other indoeuropean languages but those main words (the linguistic scientics will be say it too) like words from the family religious words hose animals and nature and farmer things :D you know these words mostly have real old indoeuropean roots. for exaple maybe one of the oldest indoeuropean words ist "ar" it means "sun"
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj ..does not have to be greek cause they had influence from the hethitian empire. lingual and cultural influence of greeks came 1000 years later or so. 3500-4000 years ago greeks were a little population and their time came later.
for example: the scythians -like homer wrote he visited the "okeanos of the world" he means the north region of the black sea, the greeks didnt met the scythians really before, the scythians and other folks, like the old germanians in the north europe ...
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj beacause look the earliest indo-european language that was documented is the HETHITIAN language and they came sure from ossetia or armenia or the don region to anatolia a little more than 4000 years ago and at that time in greece a lot of folks that settled there were NON-indoeuropean like in turkey too there lived the hatti and kaskians plp, and luwians came with the hethitians and were in the same indo-european anatolian group you know so the word "lali"(luwian f. language) ...
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
GIVE (eng.) = geben (german) = dadon (phrygian) = da (lydian) = davat’, dat'(russian)
BROTHER (eng.) = bira (kurdish) = bruder (germ.) = brat (,bratan)(russ.) = frere (france) = bhrata (old persian) = bratar (old north indian)
COW (eng.) = kuh (germ.) = chuah (old german/germanic) = gauh (old northindian) = kov (armenian) = guows (lettian) = korova (russ.)
DAUGHTER (eng.) = dumu (sumerian) = doch’, docher(russ.) = tochter (germ.)
PARADISE (eng.) = paradies (germ.) = ray (russ.) = rai (iranian)
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@ArtikKaraganda SAINT, HOLY (eng.) = svyatoy, svetoy (russ.) = swentu, swjatu (iran.) = swjet, swent (slavian) = heilig (germ.)
MY (eng.) = mi (hethitian) = mein (germ.) = moy (russ.) = min (kurd.) = emi (lyd.) = mon (french) = mio (ital.)
DOG (eng.) = pero (spain) = hund (,köter)(germ.) = sabaka, pös & psina (russ.) = kunes (phrygian) = psovka (serbo-croat.)
LANGUAGE (eng.) = lali (luwian) = sprache (germ.) = yazik (russ.)
NOT (eng.) = nicht (germ.) = ni (lydian) = ne (russ.) = natta (hethit.)
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@ArtikKaraganda
Greek Hagios->Hagiography, you nnever say Saintoghraphy, or Swetography etc 1-0 for me
My comes from greek MOY (already a homeric word,)
Cyn is greek for dog, you say cynic but not dogish for this kind of humor, cynism 2-0 for me
Lale-o Lalo in homeric greek means to speak, today we say Lalia for speak 3-0 for me
Nicht or not comes from greek NH , 4-0 for me
all are documented in homeric texts
uoitofsogroj 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj wha hahaha "4-0 for me" chill your life hombre xD ookk what u wanna say is that greek plp hada language influence at the antique time on the other folks right? a kind of lingual influence maybe they had, especially at the time after homer,but how u write sounds like near all indo-european words are from the greeks thats not true of course cause the biggest part of the words has it origin in the EaRLIEST (PROTO-)INDO-EUROPEAN LANGUAGE which goes back thousands of years before homer!
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@ArtikKaraganda
You mention here Language (which derives from latin Lingua)
Why the hell then you say Polyglott and not Manylanguagic or so?
Why you have to use two greek words Polys (many) and Glotta? (or Glossa, ss=tt in many cases)
If you post a word PLEASE try to explain also its ETYMOLOGY, its origin
uoitofsogroj 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj pollygot is a loan check a list of Indo-European cognates that is words that descend from Proto-Indo-European.
Eopyk 4 months ago
as help of the origin of the words you can use the etymology online site w w w . etymonline. com
uoitofsogroj 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj but the thing is the old greeks and rome/romans had a connection a long time so more words could come from one language to another so from rome's latin language words came to french and english because of the katholic church language latein
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@ArtikKaraganda
yes latin words came through the latin empire but greek words came through the bible and also through the latin language which has many greek words just latinized
Especially in the science we have I would say 80% greek words and 20% latin words
Not a single indian or chinese etc, perhaps some arabic like Algebra or Alcohol
uoitofsogroj 4 months ago
@ArtikKaraganda
brother comes from greek frator
cow comes from old greek KA
Daughter from greek THYGATER
Para means besides, in the near
uoitofsogroj 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj No and in Ancient Greek it was phratér btw the English word share a common root with the Greek but is from Proto-Indo-European bʰréh₂tēr and follows sound correspondence, Greek for an example altered bʰ to ph and Proto-Germanic the same branch that English descend from alterd bʰ to b.
And daughter again is a Indo-European root the same rool applies, Greek unvoiced the initial consonant while Germanic lost the asperation.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Eopyk Buddy I challenge you that Hindi & Telugu complete grammer is same. and 20 owels 36 constanants smae pronunciation with different look tonn of similar words.. how can one be indo-uropian other be dravidian... Both the languages have same 'sandhi's, 'Alankara' and many more...?? its utterly stupid non-content classification....
pskumar2008 4 months ago
@pskumar2008 Ehh no. From all I know Dravidan languages tend not to distinguish voiced and asperiated consonants. The bh and dh and th and kh and b and d and g of Sanskrit. They might write them down. How ever some like Tamil do not. And they tend to lack silibants s like sounds.
There grammar overall differ more from classical Sanskrit then Ancient Greek and Latin does.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Eopyk Thats what I am telling you buddy, you might not know about All south-Indian languages... In telugu you have all kinds of letters are there in addition to devnagri.. similarly in kannada... if ever learn telugu you will for sure say that hindi & telugu are same... And obviously there are similarities with tamil so all are connected and modified from brahmi nothing else... 'It's just Europian domination' that making you argue nothing else..
pskumar2008 4 months ago
@Eopyk You better know about telugu (a Dravidian) language then your arguements might change if your really want to know the truth.. Just here you are to prove your points its ok.. I get it.. if britishers can write 3 big volumes of Indian history to completely subjugate indian glory (which taken back later after realizing the demoness), then simple concept of 'Language tree' (Separating india into north & south) not big deal my mother india can bare that wound too...
pskumar2008 4 months ago
@pskumar2008 Dravidian languages are simply not in the same language family as Hindi and Indo-Aryan languages.. No big deal Saamie languages spoken i northen Sweden are not in the same language familiy as Swedish no big deal . Linguisticly Indo-Aryan languages belong to the Indo-Iranian languages and them they self belong to the Indo-European familiy of languages. Dravidian do not share the smae phonetic and grammatical elements that signifay Indo-European languages traditionaly.
Eopyk 4 months ago
@pskumar2008 Counting in Tamill ondru, irendu, moondru,nangu, ainthu And in Sanskrit, éka,dvi, tri,catúr,pañca.
No lets compare Persian numeral yek , do, se , chahar , panj, Swedish ett två, tre. fyra, fem , Russian, Odin,dva,tri,chyetirye,pyat. Latin Unus, duo , tres, quattuor, quinque etc and of course English one two three four five Is Sanskrit numeral seem more connected with Tamill than other indo-European languages ?
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Eopyk Oldest Sanskrit was closer to old Slavic than Tamil; besides Krishna, VIshnu, Brahma, Shiva, Rudra, Varuna, Veda, dual conjugations of verbs are STILL in use in Slavic languages, when in Tamil, Hindu not
VendPrekmurec 3 months ago
@VendPrekmurec Yeah because Slavic overall very conservative Indo-European languages. How ever they lost the proto language voiced asperiates and compared to Indo-Iranian languages liek Sankrit preserced syllabilic l in certain conditions.
Eopyk 2 months ago
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@Eopyk "Yeah because Slavic overall very conservative Indo-European languages. How ever they lost the proto language voiced asperiates and compared to Indo-Iranian languages liek Sankrit preserced syllabilic"
you are wrong...
Slavic never "developed" from any "Iranian" or "Indian"... All Sanskrit words are still in use in all Slavic languages today totally...
includes Dual conjugations of verbs; like in Slovenian language; hindus don't have it. Why? Because Vedas were brought TO Saraswati
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@Eopyk and Prajapati by Aryans who spoke similar language as Prakrit (old Slavic) from which artificially derived "Rig Vedic written Sanskrit" cca 5000 BC. Sanskrit is artificial language, but instead you can not interpret words as "Krishna, Vishnu, Brahma, Shiva, Rudra, Varuna, Veda, etc, etc" without understanding of Slavic language(you can not translate these Sanskrit words on modern basis of Hindu, Gothic, Latin, Bengali, Nepal, Greek languages without knowing Slavic language.
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
@Eopyk because Krishna derived from Slavic Hrstna or "Enliven one", "Incarnated god from above - into the flesh", Brahma derived from Slavic Brama or "opening the doors or doors; Shiva as Zhiva or Djiva or Shivat; "life, living one, life force, and "to sew" (remained in eng.)Varun or Varuna derived from Svarun or Svarog in Svarga or Svara; where Svarga in Sanskrit can not be translated without knowing Slavic language of term "SVARIT " - "to boil"- milk and making curdled cheese(Ksiroda) = galaxy
VendPrekmurec 2 months ago
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@pskumar2008 Counting in Tamill ondru, irendu, moondru,nangu, ainthu And in Sanskrit, éka,dvi, tri,catúr,pañca.
No lets compare Persian numeral yek , do, se , chahar , panj, Swedish ett två, tre. fyra, fem , Russian, Odin,dva,tri,chyetirye,pyat. Latin Unus, duo , tres, quattuor, quinque etc and of course English one two three four five Is Sanskrit numeral seem more connected with Tamill than other indo-European languages ?
Eopyk 4 months ago
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@pskumar2008 Counting in Tamill ondru, irendu, moondru,nangu, ainthu And in Sanskrit, éka,dvi, tri,catúr,pañca.
No lets compare Persian numeral yek , do, se , chahar , pan , Swedish ett två, tre. fyra, fem , Russian, Odin,dva,tri,chyetirye,pyat. Latin Unus, duo , tres, quattuor, quinque etc and of course English one two three four five Is Sanskrit numeral seem more connected with Tamill than other indo-European languages ?
Eopyk 4 months ago
@Eopyk Telugu (grammer) is written by Nannya to translate mahabharath from sanskrit to telugu.. So he copied not only vocabulary but also grammer...
pskumar2008 4 months ago
@Eopyk
Greek is not "Indo European"
From the word THYGATER we have over 30 LEMMATA, do you know what it is?
uoitofsogroj 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj I think you mean inflection forms. Well for your knowlage most Indo-European languages have a large number of inflectional forms. Especialy ancient IE languages
Compare inflectional forms of Sanskirt, Latin, Ancient Greek. Just these three and come back to me.
Eopyk 4 months ago
here some words examples that i did:
FATHER(engl.) = batya, otec (russian) = vater (german) = pa lags (tibetian) = atta (hethitian) = ata (lydian) = ata (azeri) = attai (hurritian) = pater (latein) = pere (france) = pita (old persian) = pitar (old north indian)
MOTHER(engl.) = a ma/mo (tibet.) = mutter (german) = mat’(er) (russian) = madre (spanish) = ena (lydian) = ama (sumerian)
TO (eng.) = do (lydian) = (bis) zu (germ.) = do (russ.) = de (lykian)
ArtikKaraganda 4 months ago
@ArtikKaraganda
Father from greek PATER (ΠΑΤΗΡ)
Mother from ΜΗΤΗΡ (METER), think at DEMETER - You say METROPOLIS and no MOTHEROPOLIS
uoitofsogroj 4 months ago
@uoitofsogroj No father is from Proto-Indo-European ph₂tḗr it is cognate with Greek patér.
Mother is from Proto-Indo-European méh₂tēr and metropolis is a loan from Greek not a cognate.
Eopyk 4 months ago
"Is spoken in the Lowlands, that is on the west coast of Germany." Did I miss something, did the German annex the Netherlands???
sikjes123 5 months ago
To show to you how IDIOTIC the english language ism I give you an example
The english took the greek word ASTER and made STAR out of it, but
the say ASTRONOMY; ASTROLOGY etc
Why these idiots dont say STAROLOGY, STARONOMY etcetera?
uoitofsogroj 5 months ago
@uoitofsogroj Nope the word star is native English and has preserved it since Proto-Indo-European. Just diffrent sound laws has transformed the word diffrently. The original root was h₂stḗr the h with 2 represent a laryngeal that is a deep thorted sound. Greek transfomed it to a vowel.
English ancestor Proto-germanic lost the layngeal and made it to *sternǭ in modern English it has becomed star.
So you see diffrent sound laws from Proto-Indo-European.
Eopyk 5 months ago
@Eopyk PIE never existed and astar became star languages do not morph they debase as english did.
dharmic420 5 months ago
the most simple greek verb λύω (lyo, to solve) has 337 lemmata!
in comparison the most complicated english word is write and has ONLY 5 lemmata, write, writes, wrote, written, writting
the most simp0le the language the most idiotic the people
uoitofsogroj 5 months ago
@uoitofsogroj English is not ismple and what you say overall is nonsense.
English has thou replaced inflection morphology with more with syntax and prepositions. Old English hade a more typical old Indo-European grammer. But as your example shows English still have example of Indo-European vowel alteration.
Eopyk 5 months ago
Eh? Balto Slavic is in North-EASTERN Europe - not North-western Europe.
nashixe 5 months ago
Jesus Christ said in GREEK
I am the ALPHA and the OMEGA
There is only one language on earth, GREEK
All others are greek dialects
uoitofsogroj 5 months ago
@uoitofsogroj Nope Greek is just one language of many part of the Indo-European language familiy there are languages outside of this family as well. There is even evidence of pre-Greek languages that where not Indo-European like Minoan.
Eopyk 5 months ago
@Eopyk
Do you have any inscription in the so called Indoeuropean language?
uoitofsogroj 5 months ago