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  • It was walmart? I don't get it. What did walmart do that al quada was blamed for?

    sweatshops?

    anti-unionization?

    tax evasion?

    Fill me in, I'm lost.

  • Problem everybody is brainwashed to this dumbass shit and could careless about real issues. 9/11 was an inside job. Our government is responsible for all of it. Responsible for the gulf oil spill. All the wars. The economic collapse etc... all of it and they cover it up and dumb down society. Your all nothing but sheep. Wake up and realize the truth. God bless those people for speaking out against corruption. And as far as building 7 goes. No plane ever hit it so how did it just magically fall??

  • yeah walmart flew planes int the WTC what kind of a motherfucking idiot thinks that way LMFAO

  • I will NEVER understand when a PERFECT OPPORTUNITY LIKE THIS OCCURS, WHY others in the crowd won't STAND UP & DEMAND ANSWERS!!> I can't fathom the thought that EVERYONE in that crowd is a 9/11 OFFICIAL STORY BELIEVER! Of course,this is a university crowd,&we recently saw WHO came out in the streets to celebrate OBL's death,the DUMBED-DOWNED,LOW I.Q. COLLEGE STUDENTS.They have no questions because they are parrots/robots.They sit there&laugh like moronic monkeys with their sub-functioning brains!

  • @molitor2005 because most of the so call americans who were siting there are sheeps...do as asked...believe me and youll be ok...oh well i cant wait to see their faces when it goes down...stupid ignorant american people....clapping to the dumbest thing...too much mass media thats why...if you still believe in the 9/11 commision report you are not a critical thinker...instead they clap...thats all they do as long as they are feed...

  • *Lethal*

  • co intel to make the truth movement look pathetic

  • @newstairway1 very much agreed

  • noises at 2:20 :

    You heckle giuliani, you get raped in the ass backstage.

  • WHY ARE THE PEOPLE CLAPING ???/ ARE THEY ROBOTS

  • @ikobard lol ur funny

  • did that guy ruin the day for everyone? Or did he do something nobody has the balls to do in Western Society? Whether or not he was point of view was correct, how often do ppl actually RISE UP AND SPEAK? So many crazy things going on today... Who's crazy?

  • did that guy ruin the day for everyone? Or did he do someone nobody has the balls to do? Whether or not he was point of view was correct, how often do ppl actually RISE UP AND SPEAK?

  • reading this is all too funny.OF COURSE it was the government's idea to get the masses on their side so they could carry on their "war on terror"......

  • Some drunk redneck stumbles around on stage, Giuliani and others want the guy out of there, and somehow retarded conspiracy theorists claim to see the "behind the scenes" shit that doesn't even really exist. Idiots.

  • 9/11 conspiracy theorists are the saddest, dumbest losers on earth. 

  • lol and he's drunk. Lift up the truthers image.

  • and the shit the title implies is just part of the delusional conspiracy mindset. There was no secret signal, the retarded video poster just enjoys throwing sensationalist titles out there for views. Fucking bullshit. The people who think 9/11 was an inside job are the same people who don't get enough sunlight, eat too much potted meat and bologna, and you see working AT wal mart.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    Are you retarded or joking?

    So you think it's more likely it were about a dozen sandnegros with boxcutters that blew up several buildings in the US, and it's very normal that you don't need demolition teams to make buildings go down and fall directly in their footprint.

    You probably believe JFK got killed by a lone nutter too right...

  • @CannabisPhilosopher hahaha you conspiracy theorist retard.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    I'm not a conspiracy theorist you retard lol.

    I'm just looking for facts on all matters, I can't help it the official theory theorist retards don't care about physics and logics.

    Usually a plane makes a building collapse? Sure, I can believe a plane+fires can make a building collapse (partially), but certainly not 3 in 1 day while 1 building wasn't even hit by a plane, and CERTAINLY NOT making it collapse so it falls relatively into its own footprint.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Yeah it was fucking Muslims with boxcutters, you idiot. 

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Usually a massive plane slamming into most objects will knock them down. Please save your already-debunked pseudo-science 'facts' about buildings for some other 14 year old retard.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    Sorry to hear you are a 14 year old retard, must be hard to live with yourself.

    You are 1 step ahead of most retards though, mostly they don't even realise how retarded they actually are. ;-)

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Not only do you deliberately misinterpret my statement in order to make a stupid rebuttal, but you then went on about "most retards," because sucking your own dick is basically all you can do. Conspiracy theorists like you are the most egotistical, closed minded people out there.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    I didn't misinterpret anything, I can't help it you can't write proper centences.

    And I rather suck my own cock then the governments, that's what you are doing.

    I'm egoistical and close minded? Sure, it's very egoistical and closeminded to explain to you why I know it were not just some sandnegros with boxcutters.

    All YOU can do is curse and talk shit.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher "you can't write proper centences." Lol. Anyway, you';re not [egoistical], rather egotistical. And people like you throwing around the word 'sheeple' are usually very self centered.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    You're just a kid lol. No wonder.

    Telling me I need some outside time and a social life LOL.

    You have written about 15 replies to me this time, if anyone needs some outside time and a social life I think it's you lol.

    Don't you feel sad you need to resort to cursing because you know nothing worth saying?

    I can't help it you are offended by the wisdom I gathered over the years. Educate yourself kid. Your government wont do it for you.

    

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Yeah man. I type fast and say a lot. You just throw around the word "kid" and other crappy "catch phrases" you've heard like-minded conspiracy theorists throw around. And you're apparently one of those conspiracy nutjobs who buys into the NWO/Illuminati nonsense. What a loser.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    I'm done with you lol. What don't you understand about that. You "adult". I wonder why I even went into such arguments with a 21 year old "adult". Kids always think they know best.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Yeah you've messaged me on 2 other videos saying you're "done with me," and that I'm a "kid."

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    Meeeeeeh.....

    

  • @CannabisPhilosopher And yeah your conspiracy theories are stupid. And they're all unoriginal. 

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    Don't worry your conspiracy theories are all very real and original.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Nah not really. The only amazing special thing in the world is people have it so easy that a person like you can afford to go through life without a single logical thought, without a single original idea. Keep on viewing your crappy conspiracy theories, man. One moment you call people who disagree with you "kid" then go on to say that you can't argue with them since they curse, lol. Maybe you look at your own maturity.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher You've called an entire country "evil" (America). Do you know that the simpler a person is, the more kid-like their reasoning, the more black-and-white morality becomes? Like, many people are smart enough to understand that Nazism was a terrible thing, but that there were many normal, non-evil people involved in it. Yet to simply say, "x country is evil" is completely childish, yet you've been doing that. "America is evil." Okay, how? All that stoner music you listen to

  • @CannabisPhilosopher is American, the internet was American made, and more and more. Yet you haven't said anything like "Iran is evil" or "North Korea, which kills its own people constantly and has prison-camp-cities, is evil," rather, you've just kept repeating the same thing (America is evil) without a single fact or idea to back up your statements. So you're being a child. Intelligent people don't label things so simply.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher lol "Don't worry your conspiracy theories are all very real and original." Um my conspiracies? I'm not the nutjob here. So if you're so sure you're right, why don't you start sharing some of those rather crazy conspiracy 'theories' (not actually theories because they've all been disproved numerous times)? How about you start opening up that crazy mouth of yours and letting the whole world see how whacky you really are?

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Oh and I made sure not to use any bad words, cuz I know how upset you get at curse words, I wanted to make sure you could actually argue back with me, without any excuses for you to not actually debate. All I can say is good luck fool.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    Go to school to learn your propaganda kid, I PROMISE IT'S ALL TRUE.

    MEEEEEEEEEH....

  • @CannabisPhilosopher What propaganda have I repeated? That America isn't evil? You're sure open minded.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    America isn't evil...

    EVERYTHING IS OK. GO BACK TO BED... NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT...

    Meeeeeeeh........

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    "Oh and I made sure not to use any bad words, cuz I know how upset you get at curse words, I wanted to make sure you could actually argue back with me, without any excuses for you to not actually debate. All I can say is good luck fool."

    Oh this one is really funny.

    Telling me you didn't use bad words this time, yet sneaking in a fool at the end for good measure.

    You are very consistent lol.

    Come back in 10 years kid, maybe then we can argue.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher 'Telling me you didn't use bad words this time, yet sneaking in a fool at the end for good measure." This is how conspiracy theorists see things. I blatantly called you a fool, to insinuate that you were exactly that, a fool. Somehow in your mind that shows that I tried to "sneak" it in. You also know full well that by saying "I didn't curse," I didn't, as fool is not a curse. But you CHOSE to see it in a very critical way, while ignoring your attempts to mock me due to age.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher "I wonder why I even went into such arguments with a 21 year old "adult". Kids always think they know best." I never said I think best. If you consider a 21 year old to be a kid, though, then you're probably not very mature. So how come me simply being younger means you are automatically more correct in your whacky unfounded conspiracy views? Explain that. You've not actually argued with me, merely constantly harped on my age, like that matters.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    I knew your age.

    Then I found out you only address certain points and let most points slide. (probably because you can't think of anything worth mentioning that's helping getting your point across)

    Then I find out when you can't say anything worth saying you resort to cursing.....

    It's a kid, arguing like a kid, cursing like a kid.... Hmmm. Where did I see that before? Oh I know, lots of kids did the same thing before!

  • @CannabisPhilosopher You've said kid more than 18 times to me over the last few days, but keep saying "you're done with me," and you've repeated yourself several times, and lastly you haven't actually cited anything relevant or credible to justify your hatred of the US. The burden of proof is on the accuser, mate.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Yeah I wrote 15 replies that you were apparently totally unable to read or address directly.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher Yeah you named yourself "CannabisPhilosopher" but call people sandnegroes. Clearly you're very smart.

  • @Tripo1iSamson

    You can't even explain why you think that silly story of yours is true. All you know is that the government tells you it's true, so you bow down and take it like a bitch like most sheeple. Do some critical thinking and you will realise governments are not there FOR the people, they are there to CONTROL their livestock.

    "Usually a massive plane slamming into most objects will knock them down."

    How's that for pseudo-science LOL.

  • @CannabisPhilosopher I could explain lots of things. The question is, whether or not you've cemented so many ideas in your own head that listening to what others say is possible. If I say any sort of history/truth/fact about the US that is anything other than negative, you will view it as "sucking the government's dick." Well that's cute and all, but pretty childish for a world view. You pretty much look like someone who needs a few history lessons, some outside time, and a social life.

  • 9/11 conspiracy theorists are a tiny minority of isolated morons, they're just louder than shit, as seen in this video

  • lol fuck I wish those conspiracy theorists and people who say "Sheeple" would just be gassed already. fucking useless idiots.

  • Psychotic. LOl

  • @badboykillfreshout I agree with you 100 % , but where I live in a small town of 9500 people , they're a monopoly on suplies we need so we have to buy from them in order to survive. It's a bitch but I have to use self-preservation, and unfortunatley buy from the monopolizing assholes. Sounds to me like you don't have the same problem, and I envy you and your freedom to "shop around".

  • @badboykillfreshout pretty sure they were clapping because some dumb-ass thought everyone needed to hear that...uh...wal-mart did it? if you make a point that's about as sharp as a sponge, loudly and continuously, you get kicked out of the party. go throw your own.

  • who invited their drunk uncle to the graduation

  • Should have tazed the sh*t out of him.

  • @jstef928 I agree they should have tazed the speaker on the podium !!! What a manipulator of facts that asshole is !!!

  • are they whoopin his behind while giuli speaks?

  • Way to shit on his New York constituants.......

  • And the stupid aliens (in the crowd) are nothing more than sheeple

  • RETARDED?

  • The guy is right, too bad he was drunk.

  • @MWRiff hes right? right about what the guy didnt even make a point and has no fucking brains and the fact that you say "he's right" shows what adumbfuck you are. meh the average person is a fucking idiot so im not surprised.

  • Honestly, I was amused by the first "SIIT DOOWN!!"

  • What conspiracy theorist don't realise is that is exactly what they sound and look like to everyone else. And anyone challenges their theories and they begin to scream just like this crazy guy.

  • Wal-mart did it? ROTFL!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • sometimes NLP just doesnt work eh Guiliani :D

  • well the guy isnt that far off really. You're an idiot if you think our government was not involved in 911, secondly the army employs Walmart as they have the largest import export computer tracking system and server resources on the planet.

  • Overkill, poor bastard just screams out in pain for the rest of the clip.

  • This guy must be the brother of that idiot FSU student. I hope they were tasing this fool over and over and over in the back. Someone that stupid is not helping these already nutty conspiracy theorists' selfish cause.

  • secret signal? oh, thats right, I forgot, everything is a conspiracy. morons

  • WTF?!?!?!?!

  • What the hell were they doing to him in the back. He was wrong about wal-mart but he was right about the government having been involved.

  • Wal-Mart did do it, I actually agree.. Al Qaeda didn't do shit.

  • youre a dumb fuck

  • @thisonefuckinguy hahaha, no YOU'RE the dumbfuck. typical American, believing everything you see on TV... disgusting. you don't know half the shit that goes on behind government closed doors.

  • i dont believe anything i see on TV. its all liberal bullshit geared toward dumbass liberal stooges like you. im sure a brainless schizophrenic like yourself is used to being wrong though.

  • @SCHIZOPHRENlC Your a typical non American who starts off his arguments with...your a typical American. i mean is that all you can do to attack us you stupid racist

  • @Sillyzombie666 cool. now go tell somebody that actually cares... oh and try and take the barbie that's stuck inside of your asshole, out. pussy.

  • @SCHIZOPHRENlC what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

  • @Sillyzombie666 hahaha, seriously. the Middle East had nothing to do with the war that we're in right now. even Bush admitted it! you guys are all typical Americans that think we should drop a Nuke in Iraq, in reality when they haven't even done anything wrong! they just have an adrenaline rush to shoot guns. in the end, they'll shoot at anything. they don't care whether it's America, or the UK.

  • @SCHIZOPHRENlC who said i blieve any thing about 911, who says i expressed any thing that your trying to disprove?

  • @Sillyzombie666 you're just a typical American. go drool over your flag.

  • @SCHIZOPHRENlC lol your an idiot, im anti war , anti gun and anti us goverment

  • @Sillyzombie666 why do you go back and forth with using proper English/grammar? you need to go back to school and retake elementary level English classes, kid.

  • listen to the one guy at 0:38 he's like "SIT DOWN ROOOAAAAAAARRRRRR" sounds like a fucking gym teacher.

  • god what a fucking loser come on

  • Giulani knows the world trade towers were imploded

    he is a loser

  • thats why i love america we dont have enough of this!!

  • americans are so fucking stupid

  • @thornton85 Are you basing your opinion off of that one individual? Care to elaborate? Where are you from exactly?

  • LMAO is that guy getting tortured lol

  • i bet if he was black this place woulda been record breakin with N words n whats not wow how disrespectful "basacally" lol

  • If the heckler made sense, he may have had a point, but it sounded like the ranting of an idiot.

  • @controlboy42 - the world trade centers were imploded

  • Ugh could you people be more fucking skeptical?

    I know, I know, you like to sit around checking out the government's wikipedia pages and think that you're some kind of revolutionary, but if you want to make a difference why don't you actually go out there and do something?

    Don't just run your mouth on the internet and expect someone else to stand against the government

    I agree, we need to rise and overthrow but there's no use just sitting here talking about it. Fight the system

  • @ScorpionDaJuggalo Because everyone that does ends up dead, making the rest too scared to attempt it.

  • I'm guna step in and say something.

    The word hypocrite comes to mind,

    And how long did it take you to write that? Not that long, did you spend all day on the computer? If you said yeah, then you aren't any better than the people you're criticizing. If you said no, then you're probably the same as everyone else who pops on to the net every now and then.

    And to be honest, if you change one persons opinion on the net, about the shitty system we're in, the surely, job done, no?

  • Giulliani is the fucking devil. Needs to be arrested and charged with murder, high treason, and crimes against humanity.

  • he isnt the top of the pyramid, but he is probably very close. I would rather not arrest hir or charge him but murder him, and if I was to murder, wouldn't it be more wise to kill people involved in the federal reserve? That would cut off their funding.

  • Hahahaha You're one crazy dude (or girl?) ..... I like you.  But you should cool it with the "murder" talk. You never know who a goddamn agent is on this thing. I am no agent. Don't worry about me. I'm on your side...believe me.The only way a person could successfully murder the top of the pyramid is if like a few million patriots rush them all kinda at once. Get them all. Then go after the little rats like Giulliani, later on.

  • yeah im a crazy dude. In case anyone is going to charge me with threats, I would also like to state that I hate the government in it's entirety, atleast since 1913. Also, I smoke marijuana illegally all the time. I hate cops because of what they stand for, and I would love to slowly torture and skin every person in the UN and white house.

  • @benopolly My thoughts exactly. You are a clear thinker.

  • im 16 :)

  • @benopolly Holy shit!!! Young!! I am so proud of you. Keep learning.......

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  • @benopolly What do police stand for that you hate, exactly? Law, Justice, Order? Hopefully none of those, so that leaves authority. Police authority is legitimate, as their role is favoured by the people. Now, this authority is abused by some cops, tight controls and accountability need to exist. The war on drugs should end as it prescribes the abuse and discrimination against certain races and classes, and is a war on personal freedom. Question authority, don't reject it blindly. Definitely 16.

  • I did it.  Now you know.

  • think about it ... walmart or costco??

  • I love how you can still hear him scraming in toward the end

  • lol americans are so dumb

  • HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA That guy was fucking wasted out of his mind.. IT WAS WALMART!!!

  • ok i don't believe the official VERSIONS of the government, but wal-mart?

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  • Thank you for reading this, and GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!!!! You mean God bomb HE UNITED STATES of AMERICA!

  • @fanofwwe No countries have declared war on the US in many decades, your country contrarily has been the one fighting the wars of aggression. While he merely remarked that the US should be bombed, your country is the one that actually dropped bombs on and still occupies another (Iraq) in a pre-emptive, baseless and aggressive war, Yeah, just fight the whole world, your crippled economy and deeply divided people can kick everyone's ass.

  • Dude why would you say something like that? Why do you hate us? America is very diverse. There are my different creeds of people. I know there is alot of very arrogant ass holes in america, but that does'nt mean you have to hate or even dislike us all. please dont post things like this about peoples beloved country. How would you feel?

  • @jpsmooth85

    I'd feel great about it because I can be proud of my country and countrymen.

    You on the other hand...

  • i know your right trying to make stuff up of what they think happen you are right

  • You're an idiot for believing everything the government tells you.

  • @randir1488 If the government tells you red is a colour. Then it's not.

  • @randir1488

    You're an idiot for believing ANYTHING the government tells you.

    ;-)

  • @randir1488 And a person can be just as dumb believing nothing that's real.

  • It was an inside job of some form.... it was not pulled off by men in a cave.

  • basicilly. lol.

  • A power down occurs one week before 9/11. This power down was for computer up grades. Bush's Brother In Charge Of Security At The WTC. Marvin P. Bush,the president's younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. According to its present CEO, Barry McDaniel, the company had an ongoing contract to handle security at the World Trade Center up to the day the buildings fell down.

  • George Bush nominated/selected Bernard Kerik as head of Homeland Security Secretary. Former New York City Police Commisioner under Giuliani. I see Kerik was indicted. Makes me think of the integrity issues associated with the entire establishment.

  • WTC 7 an emergency bunker that collapsed in it's own foot print. Observing the available video footage, you will see what looks like all core columns collapsing simutamuously - evidence. Facts surrounding this event were left out of the 9/11 Commission Report - WTC 7 is often referred to as "the smoking gun". WTC 7 housed the offices of the CIA, FBI and other federal branches. [Incidentally, all records involving investigations of government and wallstreet fraud were destroyed.]

  • that looks fun, i gonna do that went i go holiday

  • that guy was just fucking joking.

  • what secret signal?????????/ that guy was just an idiot drunk red neck. no signal was needed that guy was gonna get beat regardless

  • What a dumbshit.

  • lol walmart did it all makes sence now

  • It sounds like a kennel in the last few seconds of the clip.

  • That guy was definantly drunk

  • If you shop at Wal-mart, the terrorists win.

  • @mrcharm69 < In the last 10yrs, only shopped twice at Walmart !

    1:23 Giuliani looks look count Dracula, lol. I think Jewliani is just another "smiling self-promoting" opportunistic politician in the cabal.

    Why did he not stop exporting WTC rubble to 3rd world country, that's still smoldering hot ? Were they fearful it contains military grade nano-thermite residue to found by forensic analysts ?

  • Guiliani go fuck yourself you stupid arrogant killer!

  • He's screaming SO loud I'd almost think this was staged....

  • Yes, this looked staged. One of their tactics to put down anyone who questions the official story is to create set ups that make the truthers look bad.

    Let's face it, Giuliani killed almost three thousand people in 9-11. He's a murderer. Yes, Bush, Cheney, they're outlaws.

    9-11 was an inside job.

  • Truthers don't need anyone to make them look bad.

  • Wow.  moron.

  • Wow. brainless sheep

  • i lol'd

  • 911 was committed by the global elite. So yes in fact wal-mart is related to the terrorists. Or should I call them the boogiemen. Because the war on terror is only a war on your freedoms. The only honest thing george bush said is that those who committed this crime hate your freedom. After this attack on our innocent friends and family, we supported blindly whatever these criminals wanted to do. Look up WTC 7! Outspoken John O'Neil Dies At Ground Zero. No Evidence Of A Boeing 757 In PA.Wake up

  • We're on the same side TS. I woke up a long time ago to the lies and bullshit of puppet Bush and the PTB.

    I want to bring them down just for the fun of showing them that they are not elite, they are just rich.

    :)

  • are u the dude in the video?

  • walmart did it.... walmart did it... yea... and Kmart bombed the oklahoma building. and best buy caused Katrina

  • titan2781:

    Whatever you do don't say the Dildo Queen did it. That seams to really piss off truthers for some reason.

  • listen 2 im in background 2 thirds of the way in, its hilarious lol.

  • Now he's soylent green being sold in Wal-Mart.

  • lol!!!

  • walmart didnt have anything do with 9/11 walmart is too money hungry. it was the bush administration that did it. there are to many facts that lead up to bush. if you were a building and a plane hit you wouldnt you fall to the side and not straight down. there were secondary explosions, and how did building #7 fall??? it wasnt even near the trade center. and to make it of a more believable attack bush hit the pentagon with a bomb not a plane...wheres the remains of the plane that hit it, none???

  • I love the echos of his screams haha

  • it would not be good for business is wal-mart destroyed the WORLD TRAAAAADE CENTER,even if its wasnt dangerous for business it would be stupid to bomb urself

  • people say its a conspiracy coz they dont accpe tthe fact that the culprits are powerful terrorist which are pretty much unseen.up to you,everyone got an opinion

  • BASE UH KEELY!!!

  • Walmart did it!

  • no, he does not have a disability, he is just quite drunk

  • and funny too

  • I'm gonna guess the guy has a mental disorder...

  • I think that Target was behinde this incident.

  • the sound coming out of the tunnel is classic

  • lol wallmart did it so true

  • Guiliani and co are murderers. 911 was perpotrated by Mossad and CIA. That disabled guy is right.

  • if you listen carefully the guy has a disability... keep that in mind

  • lol that guy haaad to be paid off, wal-mart?

  • God damn you wal-mart, next time i'm there im leaving the freezer doors open...

  • Once again a protester has a great opportunity to make a difference and he drinks too much courage to do what needed to be done...damn shame

  • Damn!!!! Was that guy tortured in the back?

  • fuck this guy (guiliani, not the yeller... he's a little dumb about his protesting, but guiliani is a worthless asshole)