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  • A Greek muslim is a contradiction in terms.

  • the most people in turkey was greek moslems because they had to move 1919-1921 turkey

    and today they hate the greeks

  • greeks will never convert 2 islam.greathing 2 greek people from serbs..

  • ummm ok....thanks for the comment.

  • reminants of the ottoman occupation, motherfucken turkalbos, we are rebuilding the Byzantine Empire & theres no place for jizlam or you mongoloids in Hellas.

  • What you should be doing is trying to rebuild and change that name of yours. I really do not think you are going to get many adherents to your cause with a name like that.

  • what greeks convert to islam hahhahahhahahahha

  • haxeis ki xiros

  • To clarify-- no I don't advocate atmosphere of Vilayet i Faqih.

  • What Vilayet i Faqih are you talking about? That is Khomeini's concept and promotion of governance and has primary base in Shia books written many many years after the primary sources of Islam (Quran and authentic ahadeeth). Islam has set from its VERY BEGINNING a Khilafat established upon the method of Prophethood

  • Maturing as a democracy means realising the brutal acts of retaliation in 1823 and other periods were a horrendous mistake. Yet I wonder if I were to welcome reestablishment of Xumia and Islamic community will there be intolerance directed towards my conspicuous public consumption of Raki ?

  • Do you mean the establishment of a Khilafat?

  • No, an atmosphere that suggests something like "Vilayet i Faqih" where Ulema has temporal powers where they are strong.The strength of a place like Berat is its coexistence of Qisha Xhumia and Kathedral in peace. This is my hope for a similar spiritual future for Ioannina.

  • NO....no. This is Shia promoted concept formed many years AFTER the already established form of ruling in Islam from its very beginning called khilafah.

  • Your video is misleading The history of Greece is built of layers upon layers. The Tower of the Winds was not originally an Islamic structure but of ancient Classical times in old Athens. Philosophers gathered there and the orologikon, the wondrous water clock mechanism was located there. After Turkish conquest the tower was made into a "tekke" or lodge for dervishes of the Alevi order. The orologikon was destroyed as "Kufar" - only fragments remain today. Same image -different perceptions.

  • Who said the tower of winds was ORIGINALLY an Islamic structure? Now, YOU are PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH. Come on man, of course civilizations built on each other. Things do not just pop up by the waiving of a wand. What misleading? Just because I showed a picture, you made a conclusion? The fact of the matter is that all western scholars talk about is its pagan and Christian history. I showed a part of its Muslim one. Shoot me for the crime.

  • As Greece matures as a democracy it will put years 1389-1823 into different context. MY entry was for point of information, not to be accusatory. Orologikon is sort of .....a passion with me.

  • InshaAllah

  • Mushaf is Quranic for-- method of teaching and influence???

  • No. Mushaf is the written records....the Quran. And we have authentic hadeeths, and usool fiqh.

  • The best of Islam is the teachings of Sufi Daghestani and the heroism of Imam Shamyl. There are Naqshbandi centres opening up in Tirana and elsewhere. The worst- was what my great -grandfather encountered in Epirus. the If you were to reestablish Umma in Ioannina where would you send for Ulema? Qom? Medina? Al Azhar? Be careful what you wish for or you will end up like London's Finsbury Park.(Unless that's what you like!)

  • The knowledge of Islam is not the monopoly of a single person, city or school. The Mushaf is in the hands of the Ummah as it ALWAYS was from the beginning, not exclusivly in the hands of clergy as was the case with other religions.  For those WANTING to know the message of Islam in ANY detail, the records are there. Then they are free to do as they wish and are allowed to.

  • It is then just a matter of us implementing what the Mushhaf decrees.

  • Can someone go to Turkey and remind them of Religious Freedom also. I am an ancestor of the Constantinopolian era.We have many Orthodox Churches desecrated,Hagia Sophia the Most Holiest Site in Orthodoxy was used as a Mosque now as a museum,this is a disgrace,if you allow this to happen you do not beleive in God,You beleive in Self Righteousness only for you the hell with the Orthodox,But Jesus waits Paitently.

  • You be the man first since you calling out and tell YOUR country to offer religious freedom first! Liars and hypocrites! Pick up your trash first, then tell the other what to do.

  • My Brother I see the stick in my eye do you see the one stuck in yours?

  • Well pull YOURS out first, then WHEN YOU GET IT OUT then I MIGHT ask you to come and help me.

  • You see then we both agree !

  • No.....we do not both agree. I never agreed that I see a stick in MY eye. You the one who agreed had a stick in his eye and you see it. I just said I MIGHT ask you to come and help me. For what?......I did not elaborate:)

  • Then that is the whole problem? A Christian will admit his mistake a Muslim will see his as a difference of opinion.

  • Yes when a Christian is wrong he/she SHOULD admit their mistake, as should anyone else whatever ideology/belief they carry. As for your other generalization about Muslims, I know that it is just ridiculous and silly. P.S. I have met VERY FEW Christians who have admitted their "mistakes" concerning politico-religious issues, but I will not be that ludicrous generalize them all, package them and send them to the gallows.

  • Architecturally speaking, this is an interesting tour. Being an architect myself I know that Ottoman architecture was really magnificent. Re: the comment that many Muslims were "butchered" in Greece: the creator of the video forgot to mention that many Greeks were butchered in Turkey as well (1922). Also I don't like the final comment: to be blessed by Allah. Religion should be kept out of our Greek-Turkish friendship.

  • There are plenty of videos and sites dedicated to the Christian people who lost their lives in Turkey. There are VERY FEW dedicated to the tragedy of the Muslims that once belonged to the land now called Greece. This clip is in memory of them. As far as religious conotations...My friend you have a right to believe what you want and I also have a right. I respect your right to believe what you want. I do not like many of your videos,(others probably do) but you still have a right to post them.

  • By the way, I must admit you are very good at Irish dancing. I enjoyed watching your clip.

  • Yes, religion should be out. But to all semitic religion believers; Jesus called 'Alloha' or 'Allaha' in aramaic & Mohammed called 'Allah', the same deity. 'Allaha' or 'Allah' are not greek or turkish. In turkish god is called " tanri or yaradan" in greek " theos "

  • You have the right to believe that and I personally respect your right to believe that.

  • I believe that the islamic heritage of Greece has to be unravelled, including the ancient Orthodox heritage of Turkey. I really like your videos. Thank you

  • Even though this video is NOT about TURKEY, I must say one thing with regards to the issue of unravelling religious histories in Turkey and Greece. I was just 2 days ago watching ERT channel TV that dealt with Greek religious tours in Cappadocia (place outside the Treaty of Laussane). Turkey allowed the Patriarch to have service in more than a dozen abandoned churches without hinderence. I am from Janina area, will Greece allow us to do the same in Janina's old mosques?

  • I Sharia mporei na efarmostei analoga me tin antilipsi kai to simferon tou kathenos, opos kai o ioudaikos nomos kai oloi oi nomoi olon ton laon kai thriskeion kai sinithos afti einai i antilipsi tou ishirou tis kathe epohis

  • Ohi..ohi! Kaneis poli lathos. Iparhun xekathari nomi, pu then allazun ME TIPOTA. Afti i nomi vriskonde sto Korani ke sta Sahih ki Qudsi ahadith. Iparhei omos horos se merikous nomous pou dinete liyo eleftheria ston anthropo na dialexei diaforous tropous na antimetopisi diafora themata, alla panda mesa apo kapia oria. Sto Islam o Igemonas ke Nomothetis einai O ALLAH. Then borei KANENAS, "ebnevsmenos" i mi anthropos na allaxei ton nomo Tou opous kanoun stis alles thriskeis ki ideologies.

  • Kai kati akomi pu nomizo tha eprepe na gnorizeis...To Islam ini Pneumatopolitiki ideologia. Ine olokliromeni kai teleia thriskeia. Periehei kathodiyiseis gia ta panda aparaitita sea tis zois. Then borei na thrimatisti ke na theorite Islam. Sto politico klado, I efarmozete i Islamiki Sheriat 100%, I allios then einai efarmosi tis. Tora o pagosmios Mousoulmanikos laos, apoteleitai apo exaskon kai mi exaskun Mousoulmanous. Afti pu thrimatizun ta kladhi tu Islam einai mi-exaskwn Muslimani.

  • Ksero kai gia to Korani kai gia ta Hadith kai gia ti Sunna kai gia ti Sharia(pou einai idios o Ioudaikos nomos me mikres prosthikes). Oso gia to pnevmatopolitiko, oles oi thriskeies einai pnevmatopolitikes an tis efarmoseis evlavika, kai oles oi monotheistikes ksekinoun apo tin idia pigi(simfona me to Korani). Kai se kathe thriskeia yparhoun anthropoi pou tin akolouthoun pista kai alloi pou den to kanoun.

  • Se ola simfonume ektos apo dio themata. Prota prota, oi thriskeies THEN einai OLES pnevmatopolitikes apo tis RIZES (to vasiko kitapi) tous opos ine to Islam. Paradeigma o Hristianismos. Ta evangelia kai ta grammata ti len os anafora to pios prepei na Kiverna tous Pistous?...to pos prepei na organothi to kratos?..pos dialeyetai o arhiyos?...pos efarmozete to dikastiko sta kinonika themata...ti fori plironontai ki pios ta mazev ta lefta?...pios ki si ti ta diorizoun afta ta lefta?..Then leei.

  • Then leei yiati o Hristos (AS) eipe:"Dos ston Kesaro oti tu anikei, ke dos sto Theo oti tu anikei Autou." Etsi, to politiko kladhos aftis tis thriskeias afinete stous "fotismenos" ke "ebnevsmenous" na yiomisoun ta kina. Tora, Defteron, THEN einai IDIA me mikres prosthikes i SHeriat me ton Ioudaiko nomo. Ne, xekinan apo tin idia piyi tu monotheismu alla diaferoun kai PARA POLI. Fisika tha ehun kena. Fere opio thema ap'tin epiloyi arhiyou tu Islamikou kratous, mehri to Jihad, kai tha this ..

  • Tote giati sta Islamika krati kanoun ekloges(theoritika milame giati sta perissotera ehoun stratiotikes diktatories)? Oso gia ta emirata kai ti Saoudiki Aravia einai feouda kai kivernountai edo kai panta apo sigkekrimenes oikogeneies.Kai ypotithetai pos sto Islam arhigos prepei na ginetai o pio ikanos.. Kai oi pio polloi nomoi den einai sto Korani(to vasiko kitapi) alla sti sunna, hadith kai sharia.

  • It is this point you bring up exactly that is important to understand today. The countries you mention are not ISLAMIC, meaning ruled under Shariat. They are countries full of Muslims run secularly or in another fashion that is contrary to Islam. Alongside the destruction of the Islamic Khilafah State the Shariah was abolished and puppet governments were put in power over the Muslims by force and reenforced by the colonialists so ISLAM's political side can never come to power again.

  • It is basically a struggle between ideologies such as communism or capitalism and Islam manifesting itself. You see, they have diffrent foundations and aims.

  • So which ones are the Islamic countries today governed by the Sharia law? According to you none.. And if Islamic leaders and scholars failed to convince their own people on applying the Sharia law in countries packed with mouslims why should non mouslim people accept it?By the way mouslim countries stopped being colonies at least 60 years now, and the Arabic countries have never been colonies. As for the nasty goverments, why don't their own citizens do something to get rid of them?

  • You see they are fighting to keep Islam out of the minds and life of people..literally they are holding the gun to our heads.Since they cannot completely eradicate it (they have tried many times before),they try to control it and subvert the ideology in the minds of its followers.There is no ISLAMIC country with Sharia today,but that is what we as a whole are working on.That is why the evil doers in the world are fighting and demonising us.They call Islam 'The Sleepin Giant'.Don't let it awake!

  • But who are they who are fighting to hold Sharia out of the muslim countries and specially the rich ones who control the power?? And why do you allow them to influence you if your people as a total are so keen on these laws. And if the giant is peaceful why to keep him sleepy? He could contribute a lot to the prosperity of the human kind.

  • They are liars, cheaters, monopolists, money-hungries, racists, bigots, capitalists, atheists, self-interested people, opportunists etc. who head and run the world. We Muslims are not the majority on this Earth. The non-Muslims who hate us have rallied together and have even convinced the ones who didn't to dislike us. So when we try to live by Islam in its completeness they beat us down. But we continue trying to resist.

  • But who are they who are fighting to hold Sharia out of the muslim countries and specially the rich ones who control the power?? And why do you allow them to influence you if your people as a total are so keen on these laws. And if the giant is peaceful why to keep him sleepy? He could contribute a lot to the prosperity of the human kind.

  • But who are they who are fighting to hold Sharia out of the muslim countries and specially the rich ones who control the power?? And why do you allow them to influence you if your people as a total are so keen on these laws. And if the giant is peaceful why to keep him sleepy? He could contribute a lot to the prosperity of the human kind.

  • But who are they who are fighting to hold Sharia out of the muslim countries and specially the rich ones who control the power?? And why do you allow them to influence you if your people as a total are so keen on these laws. And if the giant is peaceful why to keep him sleepy? He could contribute a lot to the prosperity of the human kind.

  • Yes, the 'Giant' could contribute alot to the prosperity of mankind, but it would mean an end for the self-interested opportunists and their likes I mentioned above. They of course want to stay in power as long as they can and in ANY way they can.

  • So, if I get it right you mean that the people who rule the mouslim countries are thinking only of themselves and not for their citizens.

  • Yes, my friend. They are thinking for themselves and their masters who tell them what to do

  • So.. the masters have masters. Anyway.. I never liked politics.. I'm the romantic kind of person who thinks that all people can be friends if they open their hearts and minds.

  • On this point I am with you my brother in humanity. Tell me though, I know you are Aroman and love klarina, do you like this song?

  • What is Aroman? I am Ellinida. Anyway, the song is not that bad, although I am not very fond of vlahikous rythms. I prefer more cheerful sounds(like the island folklor songs, or makedonitikous and thrakiotikous rythms).

  • Aroman is Vlach speakers.  The actual "Romanovlachi".

  • Where in Greece are you from? Tell me if you don't mind a little about your background.

  • Eimai Thrakomakedonissa. Are you Romanovlachos?

  • No my background is Cham Epirot.

  • Eline saglik kardeşim gerçekten çok güzel olmuş. ben ünv de iken ogrencilerimle Yunanistan'a iki defa gezi düzenlemiş ve oradaki tarihi mirasimizı gezdirmistim. aslında türkiyenin bu tür ülkelerdeki mirasa en azından bu sekilde sahip çıkması lazım.

    teşekkürler

  • tesekur ederm abi. Selam aleykum

  • Se afto to sigkekrimeno clip, mono ena tzami (tis Ag. Sofias) itan ekklisia pu metatrapike se tzami. Ta perisotera ereipomena tzamia pu apeminan ston simerino Elladhiko horo ktistikan apo to bato (apo tin arhi). Oti dihno sta clips ean apotelouse tzami i ieros horos ton Hristianwn, siyura tha to ihan yirisei pali se ekklisia i monastiri ke den tha ihan afisi ihno Islamiko. Tora afta pu ehun ihno itan arhika tzamia pu ta metatrepsan se ekklisies, kratwntas ta stiheia na apodheixun tin....

  • Tis Agia Sofias tis Thessalonikis ennow.

  • Kali epilogi.Apla afta pou deihneis gia mousoulmaniki klironomia einai ekklisies pou oi Tourkoi metatrepsane se tzamia prosthetontas minarethes.

  • tin niki tous epenanti to Islam.

  • opos i metatropi tis A.Sofias (tis Kon/polis ennoo)ithele na deiksei ti niki tou Islam. Afto pou katalavaino ego einai oti epeidi i istoria einai poli taragmeni kai i thriskeia einai arrikta demeni me tin ethniki taftotita ton laon tis mesogeiou distihos o enas prospathei na vgalei ta matia tou allou dithen sto onoma tou Theou alla i ousia einai poios tha kiverna.

  • Iparhei enas nomos sto Shariat tu Islam pu lei, ean apo mesa apo mia ekklisia i sinayoyi kanoun antistasi ke nikisun i Mousoulmani, aftos o horos apo sevasmo vevaia prepei akoma na doxazei to Theo. Efoson nikisun I Mousoulmani, anti na to katastrepsoun, tha ipsosoun to onoma tou Theou. Etsi eyine stin Agia Sofia ean diavaseis tin Istoria twn Istorikwn twn dio thriskeiwn TIS EPOHIS. Episis stin sheriat ekgataleipimena thriskeftika ktiria ehum tin idia mira.

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