Justin founded a school in Rome at the same time as Valentinus. Rome at the time was a group of Ebionites run like the Sanhedrin. Valentinus came to convert them to Paul. Justin came to convert them to Simon Magus, his true master, and Cerinthus. Justin and Valentinus founded a school. The Roman church had broken off from Corinth because they hated Paul scolding them. Justin's school won out and convinced the Pope to oust Valentinus.
Pseudo-John is in fact Cerinthus and Justin Martyr. Hell for all we know Simon Peter is Simon Magus, Justin is Cerinthus, and Mark is Marcion, Cerdon is Kedron the Pope of Alexandria. LOL The parallels are many.
@pandirasbox I can see that. One thing I like about Justin Martyr, is he's a total prick. But he's also highly detailed, and he's held up surprisingly well. Most of these guys, it's amazing that Catholics actually claim these guys are part of their lineage.
On Angels, or Pneuma, I'm right there with ya. After Justin Martyr, is about the time it all went toward Catholicism
I deplore Justin Martyr, I see him as the founder of the Catholic church and a Pseudo-gnostic who believed Jesus went into heaven, joined Jesus and Christ together, invented the ascension, etc. He is a Cerinthian and a Samaritan. He follows this stupid laughable idea of carnal resurrection and a general resurrection, and a thousand year reign of Christ. The Orthodox claim he is fallible but that it is up to the church to decide what quotes from him suit their views and use him for Orthodoxy.
Of course the must forbid sex in heaven or else there would be babies born into heaven. That would be terrible. And because Christians always follow the rules, babies will not be a problem.
@hadzhere hehe. Sometimes he seems to have some serious skills. But mostly he just rambles on senselessly. i'm on "Dialogue With Trypho" now. It isn't just boring. it's also like 150 chapters long. ;-D
Lots of evidence though. This guy might turn out to be a "gold mine".
@Xoroaster Well, better you than me...haha. Joking aside, you're doing a great job! Very interesting evidence you're finding, and I'm really enjoying all of your series'. Amazing that there hasn't been anyone to do a 'from scratch' analysis of the bible in all these years of 'scholarly examination', they all seem to have come to it with some preconceived set of notions or agenda. Disgraceful really, but an expected consequence of the drone-ishness that religion engenders.
@hadzhere That does seem strange to me too. Especially now, with information being so easily available.
It's been a strange ride, because I really don't fault ancient writers. They're funny sometimes, but I can't really fault them for writing whatever they write. I wouldn't have expected starting from zero to be as much fun as its been. It probably isn't for everyone, but I'm kind of a nerd that way I suppose. ;-D
Modalism and Chiliasm are ironically enough, Orthodox heresies.
pandirasbox 4 months ago
Justin founded a school in Rome at the same time as Valentinus. Rome at the time was a group of Ebionites run like the Sanhedrin. Valentinus came to convert them to Paul. Justin came to convert them to Simon Magus, his true master, and Cerinthus. Justin and Valentinus founded a school. The Roman church had broken off from Corinth because they hated Paul scolding them. Justin's school won out and convinced the Pope to oust Valentinus.
pandirasbox 4 months ago
Pseudo-John is in fact Cerinthus and Justin Martyr. Hell for all we know Simon Peter is Simon Magus, Justin is Cerinthus, and Mark is Marcion, Cerdon is Kedron the Pope of Alexandria. LOL The parallels are many.
pandirasbox 4 months ago
The Bible says we will be as angels unlike Justin's stupid ass
pandirasbox 4 months ago
@pandirasbox I can see that. One thing I like about Justin Martyr, is he's a total prick. But he's also highly detailed, and he's held up surprisingly well. Most of these guys, it's amazing that Catholics actually claim these guys are part of their lineage.
On Angels, or Pneuma, I'm right there with ya. After Justin Martyr, is about the time it all went toward Catholicism
Xoroaster 4 months ago
Justin Martyr goes against Paul to the core! His crazy ideas are found in pseudo-Pauline letters like 1-2Thessalonians, Colossians, etc.
pandirasbox 4 months ago
I deplore Justin Martyr, I see him as the founder of the Catholic church and a Pseudo-gnostic who believed Jesus went into heaven, joined Jesus and Christ together, invented the ascension, etc. He is a Cerinthian and a Samaritan. He follows this stupid laughable idea of carnal resurrection and a general resurrection, and a thousand year reign of Christ. The Orthodox claim he is fallible but that it is up to the church to decide what quotes from him suit their views and use him for Orthodoxy.
pandirasbox 4 months ago
Wow, makes me happy to know that in Heaven there WILL be poop but there WON'T be sex.
Thanks, GOD!
leeroynaggins 5 months ago
Roller coaster >sex
Mectrixctic 5 months ago
So according to Justin Martyr in heaven we still have to defacate. Hence the origin of the term: Holy Shit.
KesselRunner606 5 months ago
@KesselRunner606 Will there be infinite rolls of toilet paper?
Somehow I doubt it. ;-D
Xoroaster 5 months ago
@KesselRunner606
Yes, but it will smell like bubble gum and we can make things out of it like adobe...
leeroynaggins 5 months ago
How can this be??
Youtuber Jesusdudeguy says that Heaven is "full of big-titty bitches"
achtungcircus 5 months ago
@achtungcircus That may be true. You just can't have sex with them.
Sounds kind of like what hell should be to me. ;-D
Xoroaster 5 months ago
Of course the must forbid sex in heaven or else there would be babies born into heaven. That would be terrible. And because Christians always follow the rules, babies will not be a problem.
Morkindie 5 months ago
Short yet both long-winded and boring. Must have been an amazing writer ;)
hadzhere 5 months ago
@hadzhere hehe. Sometimes he seems to have some serious skills. But mostly he just rambles on senselessly. i'm on "Dialogue With Trypho" now. It isn't just boring. it's also like 150 chapters long. ;-D
Lots of evidence though. This guy might turn out to be a "gold mine".
Xoroaster 5 months ago
@Xoroaster Well, better you than me...haha. Joking aside, you're doing a great job! Very interesting evidence you're finding, and I'm really enjoying all of your series'. Amazing that there hasn't been anyone to do a 'from scratch' analysis of the bible in all these years of 'scholarly examination', they all seem to have come to it with some preconceived set of notions or agenda. Disgraceful really, but an expected consequence of the drone-ishness that religion engenders.
hadzhere 5 months ago
@hadzhere That does seem strange to me too. Especially now, with information being so easily available.
It's been a strange ride, because I really don't fault ancient writers. They're funny sometimes, but I can't really fault them for writing whatever they write. I wouldn't have expected starting from zero to be as much fun as its been. It probably isn't for everyone, but I'm kind of a nerd that way I suppose. ;-D
Xoroaster 5 months ago
theme park would satisfy my late father, and my dh is all about fishing..so that's good...keep up the great work,xoroaster!
practicalmagic9 5 months ago
@practicalmagic9 hehe, thank you!
I like water rides really. Or maybe a good arcade. I'm betting they don't have the internet though. ;-D
Xoroaster 5 months ago
Heavens toilets could be like a rock festivals. That'd make me want to go to hell straight away as I've experienced festival toilets.
monkeytail2002 5 months ago
@monkeytail2002 lolz, I hear that! ;-D
Xoroaster 5 months ago
Nice 70's porn music!
;-)
(I have nothing to say, really. Keep up the good work, I'll be watching.)
deemzje 5 months ago
@deemzje hehe, thanks mate! ;-D
Xoroaster 5 months ago