McBride, who shared a close relationship with Romney during his formative years in France and later at Brigham Young University, said he views the fall of '68 as an epochal moment for the man now considered the national frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
Never the less The LDS Church roles forward despite its enemies. Its message that Jesus is resurrected and lives in his body and died for our sins will remain the truth wether Mormon haters like it or not.
The first time I saw a Mormon-produced television spot was in the mid-1970s. Many will still remember it. The shot opens with the camera tight on a middle-aged man, buried in an armchair and absorbed in his TV football. Outside the window behind him waits his son, baseball and mitt in hand. An off-camera voice asks:
"Remember last week when you said next week you'd spend more time with your kids?"
@BornAgainstMormons i dont try to interpret the bible to my convenience, I absolutely refuse to do that. You interpret the bible to justify your faulty doctrine is all. None the less you'll have to take it up with GOD in the end, not me. Its all about CHRIST not your bogus religion or any religion for that matter only CHRIST.
The truth is I pity Brother McCraney. He just seems very angry and extremely bitter all the time. I know he says he has found Jesus and peace and happiness (and who am I to say he hasn't), but his actions (and especially his bizzare anger) seem to wholly negate his claims. I do hope that he someday finds what he is looking for. That said, there is really no sense trying to reason with him or stooping to his level. Intelligent people can tell the wrong sorts for themselves.
@BornAgainstMormons oh.. I see... So you interpret the bible to your convenience. And to fit the heretical views of joseph smith.the bible means what it says and says what it means there is no in between. Please brother, be real.
I found out about Mormonism before I ever heard of Shawn.
But he and I agree of most of what he says.
Odd thing that.
If Mormons dislike (hate?) Shawn so be it.
The truth remains the truth.
Hate me too, I think Mormons are wonderful people following false gods.
Every time I look deeper into Mormonism the Holy Spirit confirms that it is a mix of witchcraft, myth, fiction, lies and Joseph Smith's insane world view.
(not to mention Young, Cowdrey, Rigdon and the rest).
mormons cannot accept the bible! if they did the book of mormon would not exsist. mormons constantly say that that the bible is incorrect. why is it in your church then?!! STOP LYING!
@BornAgainstMormons is it? i just read it and i don't seem to find "Mormon Christian angel is the bible". i also can't find "Mormon" in the Bible. or "Joseph Smith"....or prejudice against africans for that matter. STOP BUYING THE DELUSION! the bible is clear in its teachings! renounce this false prophet and follow Christ!
@BornAgainstMormons Mormon's grasping at scriptural straws. and willy nilly applying it to them to JS,,again! See Rev. 14: 144K are gathered, angel #1 flies in midst of heaven, #2 cries Babylon has fallen, #3 those with the mark of the beast are sent to hell. Have the 144K been gathered yet? NO! It has been over 150 years, has an angel cried "Babylon has fallen" NO! Do we have the mark of the beast yet? NO! The original Bible is inerrant. Every translation is flawed, by definition.
@BornAgainstMormons You missed the point! Rev.14:1-6,144k gather..THEN, (after this) "I saw another angel flying" then angel #2 "babylon has fallen" prior to #1 AND YES, these chapters describe the 7 year tribulation I "do not want it to happen" that way,John wrote God's Word. If you do not recognize the signs, you will take the mark of the beast and go to sheol for 1K years. ReadRev., be blessed. See you tube, chuck missler, Rev.. for good basics, use wisdom. There will be no rapture.
@BornAgainstMormons Bottom line is, Shawn McCraney refused to repent of his gay life style which is a greatest abomination before the Lord. And this is the major reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gumorrah.
I'm not sure why you document the number of views when we can all clearly see the updated number below the video. Views on YouTube certainly doesn't quantify success or victory of an opinion. In most cases it proves to be just the opposite. Just ask Rebecca Black. The comments and feedback are usually a better gauge of that.
You claim his interpretation of the bible is false. But you give no examples. Shawn has never claimed to prophecy future events, but you claim him a false prophet. Don't get the wrong idea, I am not a fan of his. I think he is arrogant. But, you make claims without evidence.
@waynefeller Actually, I claim with evidence that Pastor McCraney thinks his Biblical interpretation is infallible. We can touch on whether it is false or not in another video.
@BornAgainstMormons I look forward to seeing the basis of your claim. As much as I don't like his method, I agree with his message. I used to be LDS. Served a mission, married in the temple, EQP, early morning Seminary teacher, YM Leader, etc. I loved being LDS! Then one day, God showed me a crack in the proverbial foundation, then another, then another. I left the church four years ago, and feel so... happy! God truly showed me a better way.
Shawns knowledge may not be as televised.. he's certainly not ignorant... but the facts remain the same.. the facts are unaltered in that Joseph Smiths church and doctrine conflict with most christian doctrine. If we had a perfect guy televised instead.. what would you pick on if nothing else.. his choice of shirt? get real people and concentrate on what matters.. the doctrine.. Jesus v Joseph... the LDS people and christians... get to the heart of the matter.
@BornAgainstMormons - inasmuch as I care about the facts, they mean something.. what did Jesus say?.. let him without sin cast the first stone... we ALL sin brother.. the difference is.. we talk Facts here.. Smith has lead millions of good people astray with his business and Biblically that's ok is it? And the parents lead their children astray along with them. Compare this with what? A guy with alleged drug and social problems informing people about Our Sovereign Lord and Saviour and His Word.
@BornAgainstMormons On a personal note, I do repent and I do try to improve through the Word. I'm a sinner like everyone else. The fact remains Shawn McCraney informs. You check out his statements and undertake critical comparisons with LDS sanctioned information, doctrine and covenants, rituals, practices and history. You'll find he's right concerning his statements and whether he is a drug user or a wife beater or not, doesn't change that.
So Shawn doesn't like people with different views on the Bible. I have a different view on it from Shawn. Because of my knowledge of the Bible I've been able to tell many things Shawn has said the Bible says is wrong. Yes, the church is true.
@majinish Pastor McCraney's ministry consists of avoiding taking religious doctrine stances unless it is to attack Mormon Christians. Initially a large percentage of the Trinitarians in Utah have denounced his ministry since he took doctrinal stances. He has since backed off those stances and stays away from anything except attacks.
@BornAgainstMormons I wonder by who's authority Shawn is a "pastor". Yea, I've watched many videos that have Shawn's HOTM videos and he's not as intelligent about scripture as he makes himself out to believe.
We cultivate spiritual gifts by keeping the commandments and trying to live a blameless life. That requires faith in Jesus Christ to repent and be cleansed through His Atonement
Now, we all know that confirmation into the Church gave us the gift of the Holy Ghost. But the companionship of the Holy Ghost, the manifestations of it in our life and service, requires us to put our lives in order to qualify.
Thousands of volunteers from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints joined with school principals, government officials, neighbours and other willing workers on Saturday (26 March), to clean, paint, weed, trim and otherwise improve schools and other community facilities across the nation.
Students at Green Bay Primary School in Auckland's west were among some of those who benefited from the service of 'Mormon Helping Hands' volunteers. When children turned up to school on Monday they were greeted by a new, bright blue playground floor. On Saturday around 200 volunteers from the Church along with along with parents and staff from the school braved a wet morning to resurface the playground floor with seven pallets of safety rubber mats.
@BornAgainstMormons The major reason why Shawn McCraney left the true church, The Church of Jesus Christ of L.D.S. is sodomy and lthe lack of knowledge.
@omiolo You got the Holy Ghost from your confirmation into the "church"? I recieved the gift of the Holy Ghost aka, the baptism of fire, from Jesus Himself. I wonder which one is man made wishful thinking!?
The Book of Mormom and the Bible are pathways. One pathway leads you to God and Salvation and the other distracts and leads you away from God and Salvation. God has given you the ability to know what is the truth. You must decide. To God or away from God.
just as shawn starts to explain himself the video stops. you know i can take things out of context to make people look bad to. I just choose to fight fair instead of trying to attack the person. why not prove what he is saying to be false? I have yet to see a mormon actually prove him wrong. what am i saying i have not seen a mormon even try to counter his argument. they just attack him.
@BornAgainstMormons I cited the "interpretation" dale-ma but still there's no real substance to this video. And when the other man makes the accusation to Shawn, you cut off the video right as he was making his rebuttal. Not really presented as a balanced argument at all. Enough specifics for ya? Way to jump to conclusions.
@BornAgainstMormons No, the Bible itself is infallible. You can read it plain as day and see that it contradicts Mormanism. You don't need to ask God to reveal the truth to you because he already has. Thats what the Bible is. It's God's revelation. Not once does God mention Joseph Smith or any other Morman exclusive teaching. The Bible was sufficient just as Christ's death is sufficient. The Bible has the beginning, middle and end already written. There is no need for any other book or beliefs.
@BornAgainstMormons lol i have and do almost every day... and I will bet you 1 thousand dollars with pay pal right now that the Bible never mentions Joseph Smith or the book of mormon. If you want to be mormon and believe what the book of mormon teaches, that's fine. But don't try to pretend the Bible doesn't completely contradict it because it does.
@paint1487 By specific name no. But the Bible (most versions), discuss the Book of Mormon and the Prophet Joseph Smith. The Jews take a similar stance saying that the Old Testament doesn't mention Jesus by name therefore Jesus is not the Christ. Cease to be the pharisees of our day.
@BornAgainstMormons please show me where the Bible talks about the book of Mormon or Joseph Smith. as far as Jews go, they believe that out of ignorance... Jesus is Lord. He is called Lord. You even call him Lord. In the Old Testament, Jesus is called Lord. Being God, Jesus calls himself "I Am" just as God the Father reveals himself as "I Am" in the OT.
@paint1487 These questions have all been addressed and answered in detail many times. Pastor McCraney continues to blind you beyond belief in God and His servants.
this video is very misleading, we do have no idea how these 2 men speaking even arrived at that point...what was said before and what was said after, or was the whole interview just that 37 seconds??
this video is very misleading, we do have no idea how these 2 men speaking even arrived at that point...what was said before andwhat was said after, or was the whole interview just that 37 seconds??
IT is funny that mormons dont realize how infected their religion is with Masonic symbolism. The Upside down star, the sun, the handshake, all Masonic, and countless others, and you just turn your cheek at it, thinking its no big deal. Funny. :) Oh, and its even on your garments. :)
@tastefulphrasing A video about Pastor McCraney and his method of teachings and you try and shoot the messenger? Is that your way of admitting Pastor McCraney is a big fraud?
According to the early Jewish book of Jubilees, "the Lord sent a mighty wind against the tower and overthrew it upon the earth." Perhaps not coincidentally, the book of Ether tells us that the barges they used to sail to the New World were built to withstand "furious winds" and "fierceness of the wind" that did "never cease to blow towards the promised land" (Ether 6:5-8). .
destroyed by ferocious winds. The early Christian historian Eusebius, for instance, cites other early chroniclers who claimed that "winds came to the aid of the gods, and threw down the structure around them."
This short video clip was edited and a lie. I here Shawn all the time claim to be imperfect, just a man who serves god and does his best to spread his word just like any other Christian would. Stop spreading horrible lies about this man. The only reason why you and other mormons are spreading false rumors and lies, is because you've hardened your hearts while going on the defense from someone who's actually brave enough to tell the truth, while other cowards don't have the balls to be honest.
Why can't anyone that wants to make a point AGAINST Shawn, ever show full length clips. Everyone has to pick out the 30 second clips that don't show objectivity
@DiannaBrickey Mormons don't want to loose the life they live. It is hard to know that the religion is false and still want to be apart of the club. Mormons are like crabs in boiling water, they will pull any ambitious crabs back into the boiling water so that they are not alone in misery.
With charming stories by his grandchildren and reflections on his work as a master artist, Arnold Friberg was remembered Saturday as a man who endures in the oil and canvases he transformed.
"His soul and spirit live on in his art," said Ed Fraughton, a longtime friend and colleague.
Dressed in 1800s fashion, pulling handcarts and experiencing what the pioneers of the Mormon faith experienced proved to be a test of both religious and physical strength for North Dakota youth.
On June 22-26, 64 youth and 28 adult leaders traveled to the Pioneer Trail to re-enact their Mormon ancestors' difficult journey.
A capacity crowd of over 18,000 watches youth from 30 stakes in the greater Ogden area perform "Arise: Youth Spectacular 2010" at Stewart Stadium on the campus of Weber State University in Ogden, Utah, July 17.
This video shows the problem with Pastor McCraney's understanding of the Bible. He refuses to listen to others who try and help him understand the Bible. And he denies the Holy Spirit that could teach him the truth of all things. Shawn has created a world in which his interpretation of the Bible is infallible in McCraney's mind.
@BornAgainstMormons are you talking about that Holy Spirit that missled to the 3 witness's ? Why would anyone want to believe it? Understand the Bible ? You mean change God Word for what purpose? So a man that look's into hat can save the World? The Bible leads to Christ BOM lead's to D&C which gives us another Jesus. Galatians 1:1-12 It's not McCraney's Bible It's Jesus's.
@BornAgainstMormons This LDS Van Hale himself clearly denies Book of Mormon historicity on the radio show he hosts & so he should. It is available to hear for yourselves.
@BornAgainstMormons Mormons are renowned for their makeup of things that are not in the Bible. How can they expect to be embraced as Christian? They go to the Bible with a mormonistic mindset wearing mormon lenses.
Is it any wonder that LDS suffer from mormonosis? This video is yet another mormonicious attempt to discredit the Holy Bible.
Thanks be to God that Shawn has far, far more effectual reach on the internet & television than the anti-anti-mormoniacs.
@BornAgainstMormons No, the Bible itself is infallible. You can read it plain as day and see that it contradicts Mormanism. You don't need to ask God to reveal the truth to you because he already has. Thats what the Bible is. It's God's revelation. Not once does God mention Joseph Smith or any other Morman exclusive teaching. The Bible was sufficient just as Christ's death is sufficient. The Bible has the beginning, middle and end already written. There is no need for any other book or beliefs.
@BornAgainstMormons actually I do... I have researched and studied about its origin and the context of the scripture because it all matters a great deal to how we interpret the Bible... you just read it and pick and choose what you believe so it fits into mormonism
unlike the LDS who don't believe that their interpretation of the Bible is 100% correct? Come on man, you can do better than this. Shawn never said his understanding of the Bible is infallible, in fact, anyone who says that is most likely a liar, or insane. The Holy Spirit does not bring us to God by revealing if a certain book is true, He brings us to God by convicting us of sin, righteousness and judgment, and He doesn't expect us to swallow the Bible without investigating it's reliability
I heard the words, but he never said he was infallible, and since you never played his response, I can only assume, knowing your character that he explained what he was saying in an understandable, and defendable manner. Again, I ask you why are you attacking people personally, when they are simply using the Bible, history and logic to show you that what you think is true, really isn't? Shawn is not the hateful devil you make him out to be, but I am beginning to think you might be
@apologeticsman "I heard the words, but he never said he was infallible"
nice GAME. Yes, he did NOT say the words, but you might look up the definition of INFALLIBLE. McCraney clearly states that his understand of the Bible is right or perfect. If you can't be HONEST about the simple things.....
McBride, who shared a close relationship with Romney during his formative years in France and later at Brigham Young University, said he views the fall of '68 as an epochal moment for the man now considered the national frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.
omiolo 3 weeks ago
Never the less The LDS Church roles forward despite its enemies. Its message that Jesus is resurrected and lives in his body and died for our sins will remain the truth wether Mormon haters like it or not.
scottwins2 1 month ago
3597 Views
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
I like how you disabled ratings, anyway thumbs down! Anti Mormon u won't understand us till you read the book of Mormon!
CaptainDinghus 1 month ago
@CaptainDinghus What parts?
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
Spin it, Shwan Spin it!
scottwins2 1 month ago
@scottwins2 He does and will. I keep waiting for the gnashing of Pastor McCraney's teeth.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
This man has no idea what he is talking about
NOOBKILLER052 3 months ago
Only Gospel of the New Testament is permitted in Christianity.
Galatians 1:6-8
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Mormonism is not Christian as it does not submitted itself to Scripture.
Surfxeo 3 months ago
@Surfxeo Galatians 1:6-8 is why I reject your pagan trinity.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
The first time I saw a Mormon-produced television spot was in the mid-1970s. Many will still remember it. The shot opens with the camera tight on a middle-aged man, buried in an armchair and absorbed in his TV football. Outside the window behind him waits his son, baseball and mitt in hand. An off-camera voice asks:
"Remember last week when you said next week you'd spend more time with your kids?"
omiolo 4 months ago
@omiolo We need to spend more time with our children.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
@omiolo We need to spend more time with our children.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
There is a TV educational campaign running in a dozen cities across the United States called "I'm a Mormon," and it's creating a lot of buzz.
If you are unfamiliar with it, take a few seconds before you go any further to meet Mehrsa, Lorin, Sherryl, Erick or dozens more like them.
omiolo 4 months ago
@omiolo Lots of buzz.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
Why 'I'm a Mormon'?
October 30, 2011
Washington Post
omiolo 4 months ago
@omiolo You want to be spiritually successful.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
@BornAgainstMormons i dont try to interpret the bible to my convenience, I absolutely refuse to do that. You interpret the bible to justify your faulty doctrine is all. None the less you'll have to take it up with GOD in the end, not me. Its all about CHRIST not your bogus religion or any religion for that matter only CHRIST.
dvsone213 4 months ago
@dvsone213 I wished you even believed and lived one tenth of what you write.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
i bet mcraney thinks the westboro baptist church are christians,
lpsbullion 4 months ago
@lpsbullion As long as they attack Mormon Christians.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
3316 Views
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
@chriscason24 Strange comment.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
Are the followers of McCraney cult members? Yeah
lpsbullion 4 months ago
@lpsbullion Some of them are. They seem to feed on the anger and destructiveness of others.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
The truth is I pity Brother McCraney. He just seems very angry and extremely bitter all the time. I know he says he has found Jesus and peace and happiness (and who am I to say he hasn't), but his actions (and especially his bizzare anger) seem to wholly negate his claims. I do hope that he someday finds what he is looking for. That said, there is really no sense trying to reason with him or stooping to his level. Intelligent people can tell the wrong sorts for themselves.
Peace.
RestoChristian 5 months ago
@RestoChristian Pastor McCraney comes off as your stereotypical TV Evangelist. He isn't in a happy state.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
It is a particular interpretation!
dorisfenella 7 months ago
@dorisfenella What is?
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
Judas was a deciple (a student) that betrayed JESUS not an apostal (a teacher) but he was an apostate....just like the lds.
dvsone213 7 months ago
@dvsone213 Judas was one of the Twelve apostles. Please read the Bible.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons oh.. I see... So you interpret the bible to your convenience. And to fit the heretical views of joseph smith.the bible means what it says and says what it means there is no in between. Please brother, be real.
dvsone213 7 months ago
@dvsone213 I try not to interpret the Bible to my convenience. In fact, I use it to help me repent.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
When I observe this principle, as I observed it in this brother, I
often reflect upon the phrase to "hold to the rod." What should we
hold on to in order to buttress our testimony and carry us through
life? There can be many things to choose from, but we must choose
wisely
omiolo 7 months ago
@omiolo We should hold to the rod.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
Shawn does not represent me.
I found out about Mormonism before I ever heard of Shawn.
But he and I agree of most of what he says.
Odd thing that.
If Mormons dislike (hate?) Shawn so be it.
The truth remains the truth.
Hate me too, I think Mormons are wonderful people following false gods.
Every time I look deeper into Mormonism the Holy Spirit confirms that it is a mix of witchcraft, myth, fiction, lies and Joseph Smith's insane world view.
(not to mention Young, Cowdrey, Rigdon and the rest).
hammerogod 7 months ago
@hammerogod Send Pastor McCraney money so he can feed his addictions.
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons
NO.
But he can send me money so I can feed mine.
I am addicted to eating, paying my bills, driving my car, paying my insurance, giving to charities, supporting my family, helping my friends...etc.
That consumes all the money I can afford to send anyone.
You make Mormonism look so attractive....*insert roll eyes here*
hammerogod 7 months ago
And... where did Shawn McCraney claim he was infallible? I sure didn't hear it.
KPattonArt123 7 months ago
@KPattonArt123 What claim to you think Pastor McCraney makes in this video?
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
@KPattonArt123 "I sure didn't hear"
TRY listening next time.
omiolo 7 months ago
@omiolo That made me laugh.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
mormons cannot accept the bible! if they did the book of mormon would not exsist. mormons constantly say that that the bible is incorrect. why is it in your church then?!! STOP LYING!
dvsone213 8 months ago
@dvsone213 Mormon Christians accept the Bible as the word of God. They do not accept your interpretation as the word of God.
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
Galatians 1:8
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed.
unearthlydwarf 8 months ago
@unearthlydwarf The Mormon Christian angel is referred to in the Revelations 14:6. I hope that helps.
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons is it? i just read it and i don't seem to find "Mormon Christian angel is the bible". i also can't find "Mormon" in the Bible. or "Joseph Smith"....or prejudice against africans for that matter. STOP BUYING THE DELUSION! the bible is clear in its teachings! renounce this false prophet and follow Christ!
unearthlydwarf 7 months ago
@unearthlydwarf If you don't have eyes to see, you won't see. So saith the Lord.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Mormon's grasping at scriptural straws. and willy nilly applying it to them to JS,,again! See Rev. 14: 144K are gathered, angel #1 flies in midst of heaven, #2 cries Babylon has fallen, #3 those with the mark of the beast are sent to hell. Have the 144K been gathered yet? NO! It has been over 150 years, has an angel cried "Babylon has fallen" NO! Do we have the mark of the beast yet? NO! The original Bible is inerrant. Every translation is flawed, by definition.
GmaM11 5 months ago
@GmaM11 You want everything to happen immediately after each other?
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons You missed the point! Rev.14:1-6,144k gather..THEN, (after this) "I saw another angel flying" then angel #2 "babylon has fallen" prior to #1 AND YES, these chapters describe the 7 year tribulation I "do not want it to happen" that way,John wrote God's Word. If you do not recognize the signs, you will take the mark of the beast and go to sheol for 1K years. ReadRev., be blessed. See you tube, chuck missler, Rev.. for good basics, use wisdom. There will be no rapture.
GmaM11 4 months ago
@GmaM11 Is it your conclusion that chapter 14 is in complete chronological order.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
FAIR Issues, Episode 2: Challenging Issues and Keeping the Faith Pt2
by SteveDensleyJr on April 30th, 2011
Is it a sin to have doubts? What if we hold some beliefs that are
out of line with the views of most members of the Church? Michael
Ash raises these questions in this episode of FAIR Issues. The full
text of this episode can be found at Mormon Times.
omiolo 9 months ago
@omiolo I like FAIR
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
Brother Ash is author of the book Shaken Faith Syndrome:
Strengthening One's Testimony in the Face of Criticism and Doubt, as
well as the book, of Faith and Reason: 80 Evidences Supporting the
Prophet Joseph Smith. Both books are available for purchase online
through the FAIR Bookstore:
omiolo 9 months ago
@omiolo I keep meaning to read Shaken Faith Syndrome.
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
FAIR Issues, Episode 1: Challenging Issues and Keeping the Faith Pt1
by SteveDensleyJr on April 22nd, 2011
FAIR Issues is a program on the FAIR-Cast that will feature a brief
look at an issue in the world of apologetics. In this, the first
episode of FAIR Issues, Michael Ash asks why some people leave the
Church. The full text of this episode can be found at
omiolo 9 months ago
@omiolo FAIR cast huh?
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
Silly question don't ya think. I have no idea what your implying.
desertdoggz 9 months ago
2800 Views
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Bottom line is, Shawn McCraney refused to repent of his gay life style which is a greatest abomination before the Lord. And this is the major reason why God destroyed Sodom and Gumorrah.
CWMaua12 9 months ago
@CWMaua12 I am trying to figure out your angle. You attacked me on a few of your comments.
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
@CWMaua12 gay lifestyle ?¿?¿? wow 1st time i hear that about shawn , do u have any proof or admition from him i would like to see 4myself
7wiiskate 6 months ago
@7wiiskate Upside down question marks?
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons its a habit. u know playing with the keys :)
7wiiskate 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons
I'm not sure why you document the number of views when we can all clearly see the updated number below the video. Views on YouTube certainly doesn't quantify success or victory of an opinion. In most cases it proves to be just the opposite. Just ask Rebecca Black. The comments and feedback are usually a better gauge of that.
wwwSeanCoynecom 4 months ago
@wwwSeanCoynecom I am glad you commented on what you thought was most important.
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons
Why do you post the views? Seriously.
wwwSeanCoynecom 4 months ago
@wwwSeanCoynecom So you don't have to focus on the video.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
You claim his interpretation of the bible is false. But you give no examples. Shawn has never claimed to prophecy future events, but you claim him a false prophet. Don't get the wrong idea, I am not a fan of his. I think he is arrogant. But, you make claims without evidence.
waynefeller 9 months ago
@waynefeller Actually, I claim with evidence that Pastor McCraney thinks his Biblical interpretation is infallible. We can touch on whether it is false or not in another video.
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons I look forward to seeing the basis of your claim. As much as I don't like his method, I agree with his message. I used to be LDS. Served a mission, married in the temple, EQP, early morning Seminary teacher, YM Leader, etc. I loved being LDS! Then one day, God showed me a crack in the proverbial foundation, then another, then another. I left the church four years ago, and feel so... happy! God truly showed me a better way.
waynefeller 9 months ago
@waynefeller and Judas used to be an Apostle?
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Name calling doesn't prove a point.
waynefeller 7 months ago
@waynefeller "You claim his interpretation of the bible is false"
sounds like you are trying to see what you can get away with.
omiolo 9 months ago
@omiolo Yes it does. It could be another throw away account.
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
Shawns knowledge may not be as televised.. he's certainly not ignorant... but the facts remain the same.. the facts are unaltered in that Joseph Smiths church and doctrine conflict with most christian doctrine. If we had a perfect guy televised instead.. what would you pick on if nothing else.. his choice of shirt? get real people and concentrate on what matters.. the doctrine.. Jesus v Joseph... the LDS people and christians... get to the heart of the matter.
54v115 10 months ago
@54v115 Pastor McCraney is a TV evangelist in word and deed. That should be enough said.
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons - Between the two.. I'm in Shawn's corner.... fact for fact.. he beats the LDS face down...
54v115 9 months ago
@54v115 Like he beat his wife? Or like he didn't beat his drug habits?
BornAgainstMormons 7 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons - inasmuch as I care about the facts, they mean something.. what did Jesus say?.. let him without sin cast the first stone... we ALL sin brother.. the difference is.. we talk Facts here.. Smith has lead millions of good people astray with his business and Biblically that's ok is it? And the parents lead their children astray along with them. Compare this with what? A guy with alleged drug and social problems informing people about Our Sovereign Lord and Saviour and His Word.
54v115 5 months ago
@54v115 You can use that path to justify all your sins. How about repenting instead?
BornAgainstMormons 4 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons On a personal note, I do repent and I do try to improve through the Word. I'm a sinner like everyone else. The fact remains Shawn McCraney informs. You check out his statements and undertake critical comparisons with LDS sanctioned information, doctrine and covenants, rituals, practices and history. You'll find he's right concerning his statements and whether he is a drug user or a wife beater or not, doesn't change that.
54v115 4 months ago
@54v115 I have not only checked out his statements I have shown where they are 100% wrong in at least one video.
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
@54v115 A guy with alleged drug and social problems informing people about Our Sovereign Lord and Saviour and His Word.
He admitted to those problems himself
jferristube 4 months ago
@jferristube Alleged?
BornAgainstMormons 1 month ago
So Shawn doesn't like people with different views on the Bible. I have a different view on it from Shawn. Because of my knowledge of the Bible I've been able to tell many things Shawn has said the Bible says is wrong. Yes, the church is true.
majinish 10 months ago
@majinish Pastor McCraney's ministry consists of avoiding taking religious doctrine stances unless it is to attack Mormon Christians. Initially a large percentage of the Trinitarians in Utah have denounced his ministry since he took doctrinal stances. He has since backed off those stances and stays away from anything except attacks.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons I wonder by who's authority Shawn is a "pastor". Yea, I've watched many videos that have Shawn's HOTM videos and he's not as intelligent about scripture as he makes himself out to believe.
majinish 10 months ago
@majinish According to Pastor McCraney his authority comes the training of self declared prophet Chuck of Calvary Chapel.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons Wow. That's funny.
majinish 10 months ago
Hey, if you want more go to:
Born again mormon - "Heart of the matter"
testskriftene's Channel
It has a lot of great informative videos...
rickgigliotti 11 months ago
@rickgigliotti In the same way 'Birth of a Nation' had a look of great information.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
We cultivate spiritual gifts by keeping the commandments and trying to live a blameless life. That requires faith in Jesus Christ to repent and be cleansed through His Atonement
omiolo 11 months ago
Now, we all know that confirmation into the Church gave us the gift of the Holy Ghost. But the companionship of the Holy Ghost, the manifestations of it in our life and service, requires us to put our lives in order to qualify.
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo The knowledge concerning the Gift and mission of the Holy Ghost appears to be hidden from the knowledge of most Trinitarians.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons "hidden from the knowledge of most Trinitarians. "
MUCH seems to be hidden from the knowledge of the ANTImormon ones.
omiolo 10 months ago
@omiolo Yes, it is.
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
Thousands of volunteers from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints joined with school principals, government officials, neighbours and other willing workers on Saturday (26 March), to clean, paint, weed, trim and otherwise improve schools and other community facilities across the nation.
omiolo 10 months ago
@omiolo Mormons helping hands?
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons I believe so.
omiolo 9 months ago
Students at Green Bay Primary School in Auckland's west were among some of those who benefited from the service of 'Mormon Helping Hands' volunteers. When children turned up to school on Monday they were greeted by a new, bright blue playground floor. On Saturday around 200 volunteers from the Church along with along with parents and staff from the school braved a wet morning to resurface the playground floor with seven pallets of safety rubber mats.
omiolo 10 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons The major reason why Shawn McCraney left the true church, The Church of Jesus Christ of L.D.S. is sodomy and lthe lack of knowledge.
CWMaua12 9 months ago
@CWMaua12 I know he has a drug problem.
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
@omiolo You got the Holy Ghost from your confirmation into the "church"? I recieved the gift of the Holy Ghost aka, the baptism of fire, from Jesus Himself. I wonder which one is man made wishful thinking!?
desertdoggz 10 months ago
@desertdoggz Does Jesus Christ know about this?
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
The Book of Mormom and the Bible are pathways. One pathway leads you to God and Salvation and the other distracts and leads you away from God and Salvation. God has given you the ability to know what is the truth. You must decide. To God or away from God.
myrio5 11 months ago
@myrio5 Only a Sith deals in these kind of absolutes.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons What is your definition of Sith?
myrio5 11 months ago
@myrio5 That is a strange question.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
just as shawn starts to explain himself the video stops. you know i can take things out of context to make people look bad to. I just choose to fight fair instead of trying to attack the person. why not prove what he is saying to be false? I have yet to see a mormon actually prove him wrong. what am i saying i have not seen a mormon even try to counter his argument. they just attack him.
clintw490 1 year ago
@clintw490 You see what you want to see, and if it isn't there you fabricate it.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
my bible starts at genesis and ends at revelations. Joseph smith cant pass the test proposed in the bible to summize a prophet
GOLLYJONNY 1 year ago
@GOLLYJONNY Does your Bible have the Book of Maccabees in it?
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons no it does not.
GOLLYJONNY 11 months ago
@GOLLYJONNY A vast majority of Christians, there Bible includes the Maccabees. Are you taking away from God's word, or are they adding to it?
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
That video was clearly edited to fit your biased point of view. Again, you FAIL
lanakilapalani 1 year ago
@lanakilapalani What specifically is it missing? Or do you need to avoid specifics to make your point?
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons I cited the "interpretation" dale-ma but still there's no real substance to this video. And when the other man makes the accusation to Shawn, you cut off the video right as he was making his rebuttal. Not really presented as a balanced argument at all. Enough specifics for ya? Way to jump to conclusions.
lanakilapalani 11 months ago
@lanakilapalani You seem to be side stepping and then throwing out accusations.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons No, the Bible itself is infallible. You can read it plain as day and see that it contradicts Mormanism. You don't need to ask God to reveal the truth to you because he already has. Thats what the Bible is. It's God's revelation. Not once does God mention Joseph Smith or any other Morman exclusive teaching. The Bible was sufficient just as Christ's death is sufficient. The Bible has the beginning, middle and end already written. There is no need for any other book or beliefs.
paint1487 1 year ago
@paint1487 maybe you should read the Bible before commenting on it?
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons lol i have and do almost every day... and I will bet you 1 thousand dollars with pay pal right now that the Bible never mentions Joseph Smith or the book of mormon. If you want to be mormon and believe what the book of mormon teaches, that's fine. But don't try to pretend the Bible doesn't completely contradict it because it does.
paint1487 11 months ago
@paint1487 By specific name no. But the Bible (most versions), discuss the Book of Mormon and the Prophet Joseph Smith. The Jews take a similar stance saying that the Old Testament doesn't mention Jesus by name therefore Jesus is not the Christ. Cease to be the pharisees of our day.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons please show me where the Bible talks about the book of Mormon or Joseph Smith. as far as Jews go, they believe that out of ignorance... Jesus is Lord. He is called Lord. You even call him Lord. In the Old Testament, Jesus is called Lord. Being God, Jesus calls himself "I Am" just as God the Father reveals himself as "I Am" in the OT.
paint1487 10 months ago
@paint1487 These questions have all been addressed and answered in detail many times. Pastor McCraney continues to blind you beyond belief in God and His servants.
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
And they do so without the help of caffeine, since the Mormon religion teaches that coffee and tea are addictive and harmful. . .
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo We also do it without the help of hate, since that is harmful too.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
this video is very misleading, we do have no idea how these 2 men speaking even arrived at that point...what was said before and what was said after, or was the whole interview just that 37 seconds??
Talba91 1 year ago
@Talba91 Whatever helps you ignore the point.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
this video is very misleading, we do have no idea how these 2 men speaking even arrived at that point...what was said before andwhat was said after, or was the whole interview just that 37 seconds??
Talba91 1 year ago
IT is funny that mormons dont realize how infected their religion is with Masonic symbolism. The Upside down star, the sun, the handshake, all Masonic, and countless others, and you just turn your cheek at it, thinking its no big deal. Funny. :) Oh, and its even on your garments. :)
tastefulphrasing 1 year ago
@tastefulphrasing A video about Pastor McCraney and his method of teachings and you try and shoot the messenger? Is that your way of admitting Pastor McCraney is a big fraud?
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
According to the early Jewish book of Jubilees, "the Lord sent a mighty wind against the tower and overthrew it upon the earth." Perhaps not coincidentally, the book of Ether tells us that the barges they used to sail to the New World were built to withstand "furious winds" and "fierceness of the wind" that did "never cease to blow towards the promised land" (Ether 6:5-8). .
omiolo 1 year ago
the Tower of Babel was
destroyed by ferocious winds. The early Christian historian Eusebius, for instance, cites other early chroniclers who claimed that "winds came to the aid of the gods, and threw down the structure around them."
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo I will need to look up Eusebius
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
Decades ago, Hugh Nibley pointed out that, according to several ancient traditions (not found in the Bible), the Tower of Babel was
omiolo 1 year ago
This short video clip was edited and a lie. I here Shawn all the time claim to be imperfect, just a man who serves god and does his best to spread his word just like any other Christian would. Stop spreading horrible lies about this man. The only reason why you and other mormons are spreading false rumors and lies, is because you've hardened your hearts while going on the defense from someone who's actually brave enough to tell the truth, while other cowards don't have the balls to be honest.
3Deditor 1 year ago
Why can't anyone that wants to make a point AGAINST Shawn, ever show full length clips. Everyone has to pick out the 30 second clips that don't show objectivity
DiannaBrickey 1 year ago
@DiannaBrickey Mormons don't want to loose the life they live. It is hard to know that the religion is false and still want to be apart of the club. Mormons are like crabs in boiling water, they will pull any ambitious crabs back into the boiling water so that they are not alone in misery.
Pennyfarmer 1 year ago
@Pennyfarmer You come off as someone who wants others to be miserable, like unto himself.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
Van Hale has actually KILLED 137 people by BORING THEM TO DEATH!
genexrollins 1 year ago
@genexrollins Your anti- Mormon, attack the victim mentality.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
With charming stories by his grandchildren and reflections on his work as a master artist, Arnold Friberg was remembered Saturday as a man who endures in the oil and canvases he transformed.
"His soul and spirit live on in his art," said Ed Fraughton, a longtime friend and colleague.
omiolo 1 year ago
Dressed in 1800s fashion, pulling handcarts and experiencing what the pioneers of the Mormon faith experienced proved to be a test of both religious and physical strength for North Dakota youth.
On June 22-26, 64 youth and 28 adult leaders traveled to the Pioneer Trail to re-enact their Mormon ancestors' difficult journey.
omiolo 1 year ago
I heard this debate on the Van Hale show and Van Hale did very well. Shawn definitely isn't a heavyweigh when it comes to knowledge and debate.
trencher7 1 year ago
Stay away form cults and cult members. Don't bow your head and say yes.
zingalind 1 year ago
@zingalind I would suggest staying away from hate. The attack and label others mentality.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
i would like to hear the whole thing , is there anyway
Quitenno 1 year ago
A capacity crowd of over 18,000 watches youth from 30 stakes in the greater Ogden area perform "Arise: Youth Spectacular 2010" at Stewart Stadium on the campus of Weber State University in Ogden, Utah, July 17.
omiolo 1 year ago
it is so easy now ..........oh so easy.....
wildricky40 1 year ago
This video shows the problem with Pastor McCraney's understanding of the Bible. He refuses to listen to others who try and help him understand the Bible. And he denies the Holy Spirit that could teach him the truth of all things. Shawn has created a world in which his interpretation of the Bible is infallible in McCraney's mind.
BornAgainstMormons 1 year ago
@BornAgainstMormons are you talking about that Holy Spirit that missled to the 3 witness's ? Why would anyone want to believe it? Understand the Bible ? You mean change God Word for what purpose? So a man that look's into hat can save the World? The Bible leads to Christ BOM lead's to D&C which gives us another Jesus. Galatians 1:1-12 It's not McCraney's Bible It's Jesus's.
pappyforyou 1 year ago
@pappyforyou "missled to the 3 witness's ?"
with a rocket?
omiolo 1 year ago
@omiolo That did make me laugh.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons This LDS Van Hale himself clearly denies Book of Mormon historicity on the radio show he hosts & so he should. It is available to hear for yourselves.
Shulamitefire 1 year ago
@BornAgainstMormons Mormons are renowned for their makeup of things that are not in the Bible. How can they expect to be embraced as Christian? They go to the Bible with a mormonistic mindset wearing mormon lenses.
Is it any wonder that LDS suffer from mormonosis? This video is yet another mormonicious attempt to discredit the Holy Bible.
Thanks be to God that Shawn has far, far more effectual reach on the internet & television than the anti-anti-mormoniacs.
Shulamitefire 1 year ago
@BornAgainstMormons
actually mcraneys interpretation of the bible is in line with what christians believe
the only people who dont agree with shawn are the mormons,agnostics,j. witnesses ect.
lilbeaveymac 1 year ago
@BornAgainstMormons No, the Bible itself is infallible. You can read it plain as day and see that it contradicts Mormanism. You don't need to ask God to reveal the truth to you because he already has. Thats what the Bible is. It's God's revelation. Not once does God mention Joseph Smith or any other Morman exclusive teaching. The Bible was sufficient just as Christ's death is sufficient. The Bible has the beginning, middle and end already written. There is no need for any other book or beliefs.
paint1487 1 year ago
@paint1487 I don't think you know what the Bible is or how it came to be or all the different version contained therein.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
@BornAgainstMormons actually I do... I have researched and studied about its origin and the context of the scripture because it all matters a great deal to how we interpret the Bible... you just read it and pick and choose what you believe so it fits into mormonism
paint1487 10 months ago
@paint1487 Actually Mormon Christians accept the entire Bible, especially the parts that Pastor McCraney ignores.
BornAgainstMormons 9 months ago
unlike the LDS who don't believe that their interpretation of the Bible is 100% correct? Come on man, you can do better than this. Shawn never said his understanding of the Bible is infallible, in fact, anyone who says that is most likely a liar, or insane. The Holy Spirit does not bring us to God by revealing if a certain book is true, He brings us to God by convicting us of sin, righteousness and judgment, and He doesn't expect us to swallow the Bible without investigating it's reliability
apologeticsman 11 months ago
@apologeticsman Watch and listen to the video again.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago
I heard the words, but he never said he was infallible, and since you never played his response, I can only assume, knowing your character that he explained what he was saying in an understandable, and defendable manner. Again, I ask you why are you attacking people personally, when they are simply using the Bible, history and logic to show you that what you think is true, really isn't? Shawn is not the hateful devil you make him out to be, but I am beginning to think you might be
apologeticsman 11 months ago
@apologeticsman "I heard the words, but he never said he was infallible"
nice GAME. Yes, he did NOT say the words, but you might look up the definition of INFALLIBLE. McCraney clearly states that his understand of the Bible is right or perfect. If you can't be HONEST about the simple things.....
omiolo 11 months ago
@omiolo I too think that apologeticsman has trouble being honest with the simple things.
BornAgainstMormons 10 months ago
Ah, the many faces of Shawn McCraney, and yet he really only has two.
1pt21jigawatt 1 year ago
@1pt21jigawatt Great comment.
BornAgainstMormons 11 months ago