Not a stick fighter myself, but still a question comes up for me. Many times on this vid after a successful parry it looks like there is ample opportunity to close the distance and attack the body either with the stick or the body. Is there a reason for only staying in outer range? Some rules of the point system perhaps. Seems to be a bit more like modern fencing than the combat form it probably came from. Thank you.
@davis2022 Hitting the body doesn't end the fight. In this system, the objective is to win with one strike. The fighters get one point for the hand or two for the head and then the fight is ended. What you are seeing here is just practice.
The M.S.P. system evolved naturally and was never a form. The fighters are welcome to use any form they want but no single "way" is taught, in fact, there is very little teaching at all. Use what works!
@christopheclugston We welcome all styles and are thrilled when a new kind of fighter visits or joins the group. We have fighters from many disciplines across our factions. The M.S.P. is simply a forum and format for anyone to explore full contact stick fighting in whatever style they choose. Each new fighter improves the ability of the whole group and to us, there is nothing more valuable.
alot like eskrima... but not. love it. being a student of the filipino eskrima stick fighting aswel as half irish and proud, this is such an amazing find for me to come across this art. thanks you soo much for the vids
Very cool, i've studied some Aikidio and Kenjutsu, and it's interesting to see the similarities between the shillelagh, the bokken, and the jo. Plus, walking sticks can legally be taken nearly everywhere, unlike a sword.
I found the sparring unusual, I've only just started looking into Bataireacht recently, but from all of the sources I have found, and even during the explanations in this video, the normal grips is the 1 third grip. But everyone seems to favour holding the end of the stick or the 2 handed grip during the sparring.
As with all martial arts, I don't think there is a be all and end all.
Do you think that the one third grip was developed due to the difference between the weight of the Shillelagh compared to the thinner/lighter sticks you are using in sparring?
Perhaps it also was more useful for fighting in close, which would often have been the case in brawls where the Bataireacht was reportedly used most.
The .3 grip is nothing more than the balance point of an "end weighted " stick. People with no experience interpret this as evidence of a "style" but it is just a practical reality.
Thanks for the reply. What do you consider the advantages or disadvantages of the grip. Obviously, you lose a certain amount of length as opposed to an end grip, but what else?
do you use hockey protection?
Fisarro 4 months ago
Up the Irish
loflaherty21 5 months ago
a little japanese/irish in ya?
the sparring looks very similar to kendo.
good training, thx for posting
richardshapiroII 9 months ago
What song is this?
zeppelin8 1 year ago
Not a stick fighter myself, but still a question comes up for me. Many times on this vid after a successful parry it looks like there is ample opportunity to close the distance and attack the body either with the stick or the body. Is there a reason for only staying in outer range? Some rules of the point system perhaps. Seems to be a bit more like modern fencing than the combat form it probably came from. Thank you.
davis2022 1 year ago
@davis2022 Hitting the body doesn't end the fight. In this system, the objective is to win with one strike. The fighters get one point for the hand or two for the head and then the fight is ended. What you are seeing here is just practice.
The M.S.P. system evolved naturally and was never a form. The fighters are welcome to use any form they want but no single "way" is taught, in fact, there is very little teaching at all. Use what works!
hoodge314 1 year ago
@hoodge314 Good idea. So when did you spar La canne, kendo and arnis guys? That will force you to evolve.
christopheclugston 1 year ago
@christopheclugston We welcome all styles and are thrilled when a new kind of fighter visits or joins the group. We have fighters from many disciplines across our factions. The M.S.P. is simply a forum and format for anyone to explore full contact stick fighting in whatever style they choose. Each new fighter improves the ability of the whole group and to us, there is nothing more valuable.
hoodge314 1 year ago
if you want to be a better fighter, stop drinking so much
dougerber 1 year ago
@dougerber an empty whiskey bottle is a good weapon is it not??
AOBSHADOWGLASS 1 year ago
Great music!
greatsecond 1 year ago
Awesome vid, I don't have any irish in me, but that looks really fun.
TheCraich 1 year ago
alot like eskrima... but not. love it. being a student of the filipino eskrima stick fighting aswel as half irish and proud, this is such an amazing find for me to come across this art. thanks you soo much for the vids
PappaMusic 1 year ago
Very cool Id love to learn if memory serves this was a required skill back in the old days.
SwordsmanMercenary 1 year ago
Very cool, i've studied some Aikidio and Kenjutsu, and it's interesting to see the similarities between the shillelagh, the bokken, and the jo. Plus, walking sticks can legally be taken nearly everywhere, unlike a sword.
tricoin 2 years ago
I found the sparring unusual, I've only just started looking into Bataireacht recently, but from all of the sources I have found, and even during the explanations in this video, the normal grips is the 1 third grip. But everyone seems to favour holding the end of the stick or the 2 handed grip during the sparring.
It looks a lot like Canne de combat.
No offense intended, just an observation
DROC77 2 years ago 4
What you are seeing is the evolution of what actually works. The one third grip has it's uses but it is not the be all end all.
zibtor 2 years ago
Cool. Thanks for the reply.
As with all martial arts, I don't think there is a be all and end all.
Do you think that the one third grip was developed due to the difference between the weight of the Shillelagh compared to the thinner/lighter sticks you are using in sparring?
Perhaps it also was more useful for fighting in close, which would often have been the case in brawls where the Bataireacht was reportedly used most.
DROC77 2 years ago
The .3 grip is nothing more than the balance point of an "end weighted " stick. People with no experience interpret this as evidence of a "style" but it is just a practical reality.
zibtor 2 years ago
Thanks for the reply. What do you consider the advantages or disadvantages of the grip. Obviously, you lose a certain amount of length as opposed to an end grip, but what else?
Thanks
DROC77 2 years ago
There is not enough room to carry on a discussion like that with only five hundred letters. is there an e mail address ?
zibtor 2 years ago
When the website is no longer under construction, can you post a comment here?
b642m 2 years ago
Sure ??
zibtor 2 years ago
What was the music used in this video?
Ditch2012 2 years ago 2
Its inspirational to see Bataireacht being brought back. Eire Go Brach!
matskigudjohnson 2 years ago 7