Stop fabricating crap tomi. What corporations or elites support Paul or would want him to subvert their authority? His history gives no indication of such corruption. It is KNOWN that Ron Paul only receives money from citizens. Learn the truth you fool.
Ron Paul has achieved 2nd and 3rd place in recent primaries. Rejected by 90% of voters? Evidently you are pulling numbers from your ass. Where did you get your statistics from? Cite your source. Revolution to combat tyranny is the same premise our founding fathers used to establish this great nation. We shall not permit insurrection in our Republic and usurpation of our constitution. Apathy is the enemy of freedom and democracy. Ron Paul supporters have rejected the "zombie" personas of mainstr
Lol @ tomi. What "elites" support Ron Paul? His candidacy has been subsidized by well educated civilians and active duty military personnel. Not Goldman Sachs and Wells Fargo like Obama and the rest of the GOP primary contenders. Get your facts right and learn the difference between "loose" and "lose". Your illiteracy only exacerbates the characterization of your ignorance. Ron Paul "zombies" are far from drones, as they divert from mainstream consensus.
Overall great message. It really does suck, to think that we may need to use our guns against the government but so be it... Should the time come to prove your liberty and freedoms and those of your family and friends and neighbors comes, I will not hesitate to defend me and and mine. I would hope all Americans feel the same. We are not looking for a fight, simply warning that war paint isn't necessary... We will defend on a moments notice.
Bodybags for the Zionist Jews that inhabit Israel. Not for every Jew in the world, idiot.
Does that make it clear enough for your dumb ass to understand? Remember youtube has a character limit so I tend to abbreviate and omit obvious adjectives, with the hope that the person reading is intelligent enough to understand. Sorry, my mistake for thinking you were intelligent enough to understanding the meanings behind my words.
So the bodybags for 6,2 million Jews who inhabit Israel would be enough? another half of world Jews you will reward with the right to live.
Listen to me shitbag. We are people who are raised here in Israel to be proud and to know how to deal with enemies. We have dignity, power and intelligence.
Our enemies are mostly forgotten in history, and the hand of Israel can reach tomorrow anyone in any part of world.
Therefore better keep those bodybags for yourself and your family.
@Tomislavv2 "better keep those bodybags for yourself and your family."
I live in the U.S. not that shitty lawless dessert you're over there fighting for. And unlike you, WE ARE the world's most powerful military. Not Israel, not even close. The only reason you have what you have is because WE, the American people have given it to you in exchange for help in our quest for oil and control. If we ever feel threaten by Israel we will squash you like a bug without breaking a sweat.
I don't know where do you live, you are a troll who hide anything about itself. We are friend with American people, and Israel has up to 70% support at all polls taken in American public.
You have no any right to speak in the name of American people, you can speak in the name of Nazis and Ron Paul.
Considering bodybags-think about that.
There is an old Mossad saying "who digs a pit to us, falls into it himself!
@Tomislavv2 "We are friend with American people you are a troll who hide anything about itself. "
We will see about that when RP gets elected. If there ever is a war against Israel I will be right there at the front line to send you back to whatever abyss you crawled out of, asshole. The only reason you have our support now is because our current govt. is corrupt and is all about money, hence the oil in the middle east.
Now fuck off, I am tired of your nonsensical religious babble.
You are a total idiot. What kind of RP is going elected. He is loosing state by state. Tomorrow he will loose New Hampshire with 40:15%. He lost Iowa where he concentrated most of his money and paid agents. You are probably an Islamist warm, as you are spreading Islamist propaganda lies here. If you show me separate lines at Israeli airports for Arabs I will pay you 10 000$
@Tomislavv2 (pm tonight.) I will be back to review this certainty. From what I see see your missing the point. Either Ron Paul is going to win and change the system, or the people are going to get sick of being under tyranny and start taking lives... I do not know a more careless attitude to have on the brink of another war. Enjoy hiding, either way this happens, I am sure cowards like yourself will just hide till you starve.
What you mean by people? You wish to impose the object of your worship though military coup? Do you see that Ron Paul is being rejected by 80%-90% of voters everywhere? He is going to loose because the people do not vote for him. He has money, the army of brainwashed Zombies, access to all medias(despite the lies that he has no access) yet he is loosing in democratic and free elections., The elites behind his cult of personality are a danger to civil society.
Ron Paul is endorsed by Nazis,racists,Stormfront David Duke, Don Blake,fascists, communists,antisemites,America haters,rev Wright, Black Nation of Islam,Muslim jihadists etc.
If you didn't notice this is Jewish channel and yes I am Jewish and I do believe in the right of Jewish people to live as independent people in the land of Israel. I have another principle which I advice for others as well. Do not communicate with those who are hiding their channels or faces. This people, like you, are usually dishonest trolls.
Hiding yourself from others strongly indicates that you have good reason for that.
@Tomislavv2 "Do not communicate with those who are hiding their channels or faces."... Then get off the internet because here everyone is anonymous.
Hiding yourself [indicates] good reason for that. Yea... I'm on the internet talking to Zionists.
"the right of Jewish people to live as independent people in the land of Israel." The only reason you guys are there is because it is convenient for the US and also because it says it on your bible. You have no right to live there.
@from212 Also, I didn't even need to click on your channel or look at your picture for me to know you were a Zionist. It just goes to show you people are in a class by yourselves. A substandard class of humans, who prey on the success of other people and their government. Stealing the so called "promised" land and leach the life out of it's inhabitants. Can't wait till Ron Paul cuts off ties to you guys an lets you die in that disgusting, uninhabitable dessert you call home.
Lorenzo, you are a psychopath, schizophrenic and a sick person who need a psychiatric care. If you "Can't wait till Ron Paul lets you die in that disgusting, uninhabitable dessert you call home" kill yourself as your ideological father did.
You are further prove what kind of sickness is behind many of Ron Paul supporters.
its enough to read your comments, your death wishes,to see your channel and read your messianic religious ideology to see who you are.
First of all my name is not Lorenzo, second of all I am an Atheist. And third, how does wanting a war to come to end make me a psycho? War is won by killing, not by singing kumbaya. The only way this war will end is with thousands of Israelis in bodybags because you will never leave Israel (or live in peace) on your own free will.
Now tell me, do you wish health&prosperity for Palestine?
First of all I am Mizrahi Jews originating from the Land of Israel.Second there is no war, because Israel won all wars against her. Third your dream that " the war will end is with thousands of Israelis in bodybags" was also a psychopatic dream of your ideological father Adolf Hitler and many similar before him. Yet the people of Israel lives, Israel is flourishing with more than 6 million Jews and 150 000 more every year.
Almost one century ago, after refusing two-state solution 500 000 Arabs after to be named by Hebrew word "palestinians" left the Land of Israel in the war they started. Hundreds of thousands remained, became Israeli citizens and are taking part in Israeli life. More than 1 000 000 native Middle Eastern Jews were expelled from all Arab countries, their property was stolen, their land confiscated and this Middle Eastern Jews are today the MAJORITY in Israel
@Tomislavv2 "[Palestinians taking] part in Israeli life"
Yes I have seen how they are treated like a subclass human species, separate lines at airports. Checkpoints for Arabs only at the borders. Business owned by Arabs shut down by the govt. Arab Olive tree plantations chopped down by govt. Illegal evictions, Etc. I have seen it all. You are not speaking to one of my braindead American brethrens, I am well informed of the atrocities you guys have and continue to commit.
First there are no "separate lines at airports" and newer was such thing. Arabic with Hebrew is official in Israel, and at least one fifth of those employed on airport is Arab. Business are not shoot down by government, Israeli Arabs have higher standard of living than anywhere in neighborhood illegal constructions built by both Jews and Arabs have been stoped. Israeli Arabs 1,6 million are equal citizens of Israel, do vote in elections and are having 13 representatives in Knesseth
@Tomislavv2 I am not speculating. I have seen this with my very own eyes.
Anyways I believe I have made my point of view clear enough (not counting you) for anyone with an average level of intelligence to be able understand my hate towards Israel. So I will leave you here lying to yourself about how great your Religion and Israel is. It has been fun shoving the truth down your throat, goodbye.
Show us those " separate lines" on airports. I use Israeli airports 4 times in a year and this lie is tragicomic. Yes there are checkpoints on borders, separate for Israeli citizens and foreigners, nothing different than between Mexico and US
@Tomislavv2 I couldn't find the footage of the seperate lines at the airport not because it doesn't exist (I have seen it) but because I am not going to waste any more of my time.
Want proof of racism and segregation in Israel? Just watch "Louis Theroux on Ultra Zionists" Here is an Excerpt: /watch?v=BLvvBLvyvxI This one shows how Jewish people were able to move in to previously Muslim-owned homes.
here is more proof of segregated schools in Israel:
What the fuck segrageted schools in Israel. There was one private ultra-ortodox school in one city which refused Russian and Ethiopian students in 2010. The whole country stood up, the CEO of the school was removed and charged in court. The children were enlisted in school, racists were punished and justice was done.
Today Israel is a strong country, a nuclear superpower AND NO ONE ON EARTH CAN WIPE IT OUT. The time of wiping out nation is finished with your ideological father-Adolf Hitler.What he didn't succeed-you and Islamojihadist barbarians will never succeed
@Tomislavv2 "Today Israel is a strong country, a nuclear superpower AND NO ONE ON EARTH CAN WIPE IT OUT."
Keep saying that to yourself. You seem to forget that Israel is a tiny piece of land in the middle of a vast ocean of angry vengeful Arabs who out number you 10 to 1. Peace between Israel and Palestine is a fantasy. The only possible outcome is Israel's complete demise, whether it happens tomorrow or in 100 years.
The Jewish people are NOT subject of this debate although the racist, Nazi comments you made about Jews are indications what kind of "people" do support RP
The ONLY reason why my people is in the land of Israel, is that we have 3 500 years of continues history in that land, 2000 years of ethnic majority and 1000 years of self rule. Beside that, that land was never in history the country of any other people beside ancient and modern Israel, the rest were foreigners,ruling from outside.
@Tomislavv2 No, your people were outcast from the middle east (and almost every other country for that matter) for your inability to adhere to the norms followed by the rest of the world. Your people have not owned any land in Israel for THOUSANDS of years. Now you are piggy backing on the UN and U.S., leaching our money to force your way into a "promised land" that has been inhabited by another culture for Millenia. Just because I climbed a tree once it doesn't make it mine forever.
@Tomislavv2 Maybe you really don't get it do you? What your people are doing in Israel would be the equivalent of the native Indians forcing all Christians to move out of their country (the U.S.) because they were the original inhabitants.
This type of reasoning only applies to YOU Zionists and no one else on this planet. That is why, by no law, logic or means do you belong in Israel.
Palestinians born and raised in Israel and surrounding lands are the one who belong there.
Any news since this was posted three years ago? Seems like an important story and I hope someone followed up. Have you seen this? Youtube: watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM
watch?v=m2FuFF5AFrw There is more than voter fraud how about the fact a New Hampshire US Senate candidate ran a militia that broke into Fort Devens planned to assassinate Dole and ran white slavery rings...
@dnajlion7 - I live in southern Oregon, and I would like to know if you have any advice on organizing on a statewide level to rally support for Ron Paul in 2012.
Ron Paul wants to repeal the Federal Reserve Act remeber this! Look at what Diebold creates. They make atm machines for Jp Morgan Chase, Bank of America, and numerous other member banks of the federal reserve. They also make voting machines. So a company tied to voting machines and banks hmmm. During the presidential primaries they were considered a high yeild bond but recieved millions in quarter 2 and 3 in investments from federal reserve banks. A bank could easily control and election
It's sad. People sit in their cozy little home not considering the huge problem with the federal reserve, which is a private monopoly that owns the United States. The Federal Reserve could not spend TRILLIONS of dollars without our consent if this nation was still a democracy.
I wish I was already an adult with my career set up. I'd be stocking up on gold and moving to another country.
If we can get Ron Paul into the presidency, we may still have a chance.
The problem is that people want to change the system with a corrupt system. No president can save us no matter how righteous he is. The truly powerful elites would sooner have him/her assassinated than give up even an inch of control. Turn your back on the banks, taxes, politics, the media, their money, their system, their jobs... It's a huge sacrifice that i doubt even I can muster the courage to make. But its the only way to save ourselves...
Yes, I agree. I know they would blast Ron Paul if he even cast a shadow across their evil paths. The idea of rejecting government is nice. First I think we need to march in campaigns for Ron Paul, etc, so that people will become aware of the problem. Once they are aware of the problem, then maybe we can do like you say and change the government from the bottom up. =)
Check out DrRonPaul4President YT channel for vids Ron Paul Wins Real National Polls and The Muppet Show Endorses Beaker for President. Politico. com main political blog just featured the last & ENDORSED RON PAUL.
so... let me see if i understand this correctly. you are one, by your own admission, to dismiss all other "conspiracy theories" but if you find something that looks "odd", or does not "jive" with the "official story", hey, lets all look into this.
what's the word i'm looking for here... hypocrite?
i think you need to understand what the meaning of the word 'conspiracy' is, and what it means to conspire to do something.
Obama Plagarized Bush's Energy Proposal from the State of the Union Address back in 2006! Look it up on YouTube That traitor Pelosi didn't allow the plan to become law. So I guess I'll wait for Obama to mail me a tire guage to reduce my energy consumption huh! The DNC is buying votes in exchange for crack cocaine... Google it and read the news stories. What a disgrace Obama turned out to be. I'm voting for McCaine!
Mccain will be no better than Obama, as he continues to bankrupt this country with illegal and unconstitutional wars. Ron Paul's ideas are the ONLY answer to this mess . . .
@webxsuccess McCain really?? Don't you think we have spent enough trillions of dollars on wars? We could really use all that money to fix the economy and create jobs instead of creating bombs. McCain will continue the so called war on terror.
Actually, we need to get in line, be very good "useless eaters" (or "peasants") & just load up our credit cards with lots & lots of debt & TOTALLY IGNORE anyone who even HINTS that there ever WAS such a WORD as conspiracy!
Total fascist world domination can ONLY be GOOD! It may be hell for 4/5ths of the world BUT those remaining will be allowed to live & work 12 hour days for bread & that is GOOD!
DON'T listen to "those" "conspiracy NUTS"!
EVERYTHING is coincidence! NOTHING'S EVER "planned"!
50% of Americans going to jail because they violate 'unjust laws' would halt the economy. No leaders can control a population that refuses them.
So, don't fight. Do the right thing - ALL the time. This may mean don't spend money on illegal things, like unconstitutional wars, etc. Learn the cultural and moral base for our constitution/law, and live that way. The gov't will HAVE to change if enough of us do. Our biggest threat is ourselves: individual choice to be lazy or responsible.
Hey, keep in mind - the US military is staffed by US citizens. Killing National Guardsmen is the same as fighting against shoppers at the mall that you disagree with. DON'T talk about violence against Americans, man!
That's what civil disobedience is for, it's the only ethical way to go. For example, I don't want others to use force to control my life. So I should limit my effort to controlling my own life. Widespread civil disobedience is stronger than any military action, and less die.
Ron Paul's campaign is also largely funded by the US military... no matter what he says, when has the military ever been supportive of what the American people want? It's just another honey pot meant to get people who STILL believe in the vote out of the woodwork, high visibility. No one man can change this system.
*if voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal -- emma goldman*
Election fraud began in the US with the 2000 election and has been present since. All one needs to do is compare the vote tally with the exit poll tally. When they differ greatly, the vote is being manipulated. We need to do something about this. RISE UP!!
Honestly,I think the last two elections have been rigged and I think this time around if there is a dispute in count such as in 2004, POPULAR vote should decide.This administration has no respect for the people of this Nation.The Government is supposed to serve us, yet they're making us slaves via manipulation of the economy, etc.Of course, the NeoCons don't want Ron Paul to win.They think if he looks like he can't win, we'll give up. The answer to that issue is communication between the masses.
Ron Paul violated one of the most consistently observed rules of American political life in the GOP debate in South Carolina the other night: government officials are never, ever to level with the American population. The people are to be endlessly flattered, spoken to in bumper-sticker slogans, and in general treated like seven-year-olds.
If we pull out of the system, don't support it, then they will have no choice.Isn't it way too late? Five years ago, it might have worked.Americans are all too dependent upon their the system now. here is enough people now who are informed, but the illegal immigrants have flooded our country, NAFTA, our jobs are being taken. with 2001 came a robbery from the Amn. Mdl class.Where did that money go?It ended up in someone's hands?Gov't corruput? Who's hands did the money fall into? Again, the rich.
I guess we'll just have to pull ourselves up by the nutsacks and learn to live off the land. The real reason that no one "does anything" about it is because everyone is so addicted to having their lives meted out by the zionist/banker secret societies and by all the modern pleasures that this society helps them acquire, not to mention systematic mind control and suggestion with doping (fluoride). If we want change, we're going to have to be willing to go back to the land.
when the NEW WORLD ORDER takes full effect the gov't puppets will not have to worry about that silly piece of paper AKA The Constitution....Once the North American Union is put in full effect...wake up people it is time for a full REBELLION!!! cut the puppet strings!
teamlaw . org is the answer. Why fight when the Original Jurisdictional Government can be reseated. Learn your history! 42 of the required 48 states have already seated the OJG Governors. Read on and study.
America is fkd. I'm completely disgusted with the corruption and arrogance. The next time anyone tells me America is so great and mighty, I will spit in their face!
The only arrogant Americans out there are the polititians who do not represent the average American. America is great because of it's Constitution. We are mighty when we are what we were ment to be, not when we invade countries and try to rule the world.
I somewhat agree. We all know corporations run this country and they are a problem but the main problem is lack of American pride. Nobody cares even if their is voter fraud anymore. The people are so brainwashed they believe that their digital votes are correctly counted. 99% of Americans cant tell you what any Amendment says, which is sad!
You sound worried rightly so, If the worst happens and you and thousands like you are ignored march on Washington tell the world. We need our arse kicking over the pond, for letting our selected leaders sell our rights to unelected people in brussels
The media can no longer fool us or lie us into believing the choices they are giving us are ours. McCain is unelectable. Hillary is ...? No one knows who Obama is. The only candidate for the American people is RON PAUL! Are we going to let the media choose our president again, or are we going to vote Ron Paul and TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!!
prof5759-----take back America? HOW?!! The people DON'T control the government. You vote and thats about it! Haven't you noted the crap by the Bush Administration? Shit. The ONLY way to make a direct change is a civil war. Tough reality but true.
The people elect officials, which means we all collectively choose who represents us. As we now know, our elected officials are not representing the American people, but represent greed, fascism, evil and treason. We can oust who ever we put into office. It is time for a revolution, but many people forget that we can do it without guns. We are America. We pay the taxes. We build the sky scrapers. We make the country work. We are in full control, and don't any of you forget that.
ABSOLUTELY..It is PAST TIME for a revolution and the revolution should have begun in 2000 when the SUPREME COURT went against the VOICE OF THE PEOPLE and put GWB in office!
You are right, this will have to be a REVOLUTION of VOICE, and the REFUSAL to COOPEARATE...
This COUNTRY is NOTHING without the working people keeping it fueled up DAILY!
Once we SHUT THE RAT RACE DOWN!
America will TRULY BELONG to the American People!
we have to go martin luther king on their asses. violence is what they WANT us to do. look up the warner defense authorization act... they have already put in place the plan to gun us down when we try to get our rights back.
There are a good number of people agreeing with you and me.
I heard that each American Soldier in Service is required to decide what to do not just follow every order blindly.
Just like you, I hope that it doesn't get to the point where the people would have to arm against the state. But logically, there is no other direction if the courts continue this course.
I think that we all sense the fear and pressure building already.
I'm a pessimist like Ron Paul about the economy, but not this.
Great Post dnajlion7 Sorry to hear you have to abide in Portland. Getting Portland to eliminate Election Fraud would be more difficult than even New Hampshire. The mail-in ballots are gathered and prepared for machine scanning and counting in the basement of some building downtown, but the TV reporters are not given access to that ballot prep room. Instead, Portland affiliates show video of the DieBold AccuVote scanners being fed and running through the stacks. Portland is corruption-central.
WOW! I think many of these thoughts cross ALL AMERICANS at certain times in our lives. Well said everyone and thank you for giving us a place to say what we really believe in!
dnajlion...you say you are not a "conspiracy theorist". Does that mean that you believe that no one in high office has ever colluded with another wretch of kindred spirit to rip off or otherwise do harm to the American people? Why does the word "conspiracy" still exist in Balck's Law Dictionary? You say you think positively...ok, ok...but too much of what happens in this country is so abjectly negative and a true patriot has to face it.
Yes, and this is because most words in America today have become at their best cabalisms that can now have so many different meanings for so many different people through gross abuse and misuse over the decades---a word with so many different "interpretations" and "meanings" is thereby rendered meaningless. Just a random perusal of Supine Court case law is enough to convince anyone of that. Anyway, go on doing your thing as I do mine.
What does Ron Paul Have In Common With Lee Harvey Oswald ? Maybe Nothing..Maybe A Lot.
1) Despite everyone else's varying range of % and places finished , Ron Paul almost invariably finished 4th with 3-6% ( especially in heavily populated areas)
2) Just As Oliver Stone's "JFK: depicted 3 Phony Lee Harvey Oswalds , I See A Possible Scheme
3) Huckabee Paul , Pomney Paul & McCain Paul "Flipping The Script "
IF Ron Paul doesn't win the Republican nomination, then TX should secede from the Union (it's the only state that can do so- & then Ron Paul can be the president there, whereby, of course, I'd be moving to TX!!!
I agree secede !!!We the younger generation need to move to one state and the Baby boomers can have their future they have voted for and sold out to.I hate BBs
Fight to become to become a delegate! Run under McCain's name if you need to get elected! heh, heh. We just need Ron Paul supporters as delegates. It doesn't matter what candidate you are listed to "represent".
At the convention you can vote for whoever you want!
Thanks Daniel for your video. I agree with you wholheartedly...I live outside of the US and although I don't fully understand the voting system there it seems very clear that voter fraud is going on. Please America stand up and demand a vote recount & support people who have the courage to step forward such as Daniel to uncover the truth and as he said not just for yourselves but your nation and I would add "the world"....Namaste
Of COURSE there's voter fraud! HOW do you think Juan McCain is the front runner when he was down in the single digits? BUSH wants to be sure his AMNESTY and NAU is carried out no matter WHO's in office, and Juan McCain WILL carry the Bush torch!
Americans taking up arms against other AMERICANS is NOT the answer. The American military is stressed enough, dont stress them more by making them point their weapons at other Americans. A wall of unarmed civilians is much more effective then scattered armed resistance.
Theres no such thing as an ARMED civilian, once they take up arms, they are enemy combatants. And Im pretty sure the US Military has bigger guns then walmart.
What is metioned here is nearing Civil War, and that is a 180 from the direction Dr. Paul wants to take this country. In my oppinion, we need to take this back to basics....if a digital counting system is not meeting the standards, then we need another system.
Being a current member of the military, I have mixxed feelings about this video. I agree with Dr. Paul on most of his standings, if not all. I definatly dont like hearing the ideas of taking up arms against the US Military as the whole idea of Dr. Paul's campaign is to SAVE America.
I concur... Military members take an oath to uphold the constitution against all enemies. Bear in mind that the constitution is written by "we the people" and that according to the declaration of independence governments derive their powers from the consent of the governed. The military won't fight an unarmed populace, they can't.
Reread your history. Federal Troops protected black activists which led to the killing of black soldiers by the KKK. I think you confusing this for Kent University in Ohio which was in 1970 (an antiwar demonstration). Go read about Bastille Day...
i was referring to the police brutalites against black activisits so i dont really think i can really say that the military can be blamed, but the war we have now is against the constitution and i think all military personal should be aware of that.
The police are going to brutalize anyone they can get away with. That is the nature of the beast. My point is that you shouldn't be afraid of that. Ass beatings, dog bites, and fire hoses are worth standing up to in a fight for freedom. If we stand up for Ron Paul we know we won't die if we do it non violently.
Listen, what do the Liberals do when they don't like something-- they take it to the courts. We need to find an attorney (Pro Bono)and have him/her work this for their Country! I'm not sure who we would sue-- but who ever is in charge of the digital counting probably. Any honest and Patriotic Attorney's out there-- who are willing to serve your Country? You will get major exposure from this!!!
When he talks about the force of the army against the people, I would like to remember everyone that the army is for Ron Paul, if there is a revolution the army will be a part of it, not the contrary.
Ron Pauls supporters understand very well . They have devoted all there funds and there lives to his gaining the president office. When folks read what Ron Paul is about, he gives hope. I am a Strong Republican and after I have discovered Ron Paul will win and can. I have hope and am going to march strong for my nation and children
Ok theve already talked about this on MSNBC. Hillary got more digital votes yes, but guess what those machines were is populated urban centers. Obama got the support of rural areas (paper voting). But ok, go with the conspiracy.
Well, in the long run what do you do when you discover the "elite" put in their puppet, and the people are sold down the drain. Wait until it's all over but the cryin, and then decide "OH, we can't let this happen?"
My post below this one does well to imply that I agree with the opinions of the person in the audio message you are listening to right now. In order to be around when I am needed I try not to flat out say what needs to be done. My opinions are well known to those who need the info. Believe me sir, I am on your side. I have drawn my line in the sand. That is where I will stand. I will fall before I will back down.
I am with you. I agree that taking on the Military is a big job, but it doesn't have to be armed combat. As you said, "we" includes current members of the military. And that goes all the way op to Generals that don't want anything to do with this hacked administration. The Revolution is Now. Hopefully peaceful but prepared for whatever it takes.
"Who *wants* to take up arms against the government?"
More people than you think!
By "government" I mean a governing body of elected officials. It seems as though the government has changed the rules in their favor. This disturbs me a bit.
By "Military" (God bless'em) I do mean people who are our family, our friends, and our neighbors. You missed one. They are ourselves as well. They see what is happening just as well as you do. It disturbs them a bit as well.
What can we do? Utilize his idea and further spread it. Think of clever ways to get the other candidates' supporters and other people to take a peek at what they are voting against. Also, point out the corruption while also letting people make up their own minds.
Currently, the powers that be that are attacking Ron Paul are being counter productive becuase Ron Paul's responses to the attacks leave him looking like a saint. Essentially, they are giving Ron Paul free media coverage.
The use for the parties is that the candidates for both parties for the national election are pre-selected. Ron Paul will end up having to run an independent individual solo with our backing.
Oh yeah, armed resistance is NOT the right answer. The whole reason they are trying to shoot down Ron Paul is because he has presented an idea that is spreading like wild fire. They want the idea to die, essentially the political movement.
So in actuality we will just be fighting ourselves, unless we are able to touch those doing the damage to this country. In a free country like ours there are means in place that we should be able to use for representation--you cannot then TAKE away those means i.e. vote fraud, media censorship, etc. and leave the people of the country with no other choice. IT'S CRIMINAL, and there would/will be for sure a negative outcome.
Who *wants* to take up arms against the government? NO ONE. By 'government', we mean military, people who are our friends, family, and neighbors. But make no mistake about it, the powers that be will gladly turn their force towards the American people and villianize anyone who dares to stand up for what's right, for freedom, for liberty..
I'm so sorry to hear about your suggestion that we should take up arms against our own government. With tomorrow being the birthday of Martin Luther King we should take up his banner to start peaceful demonstrations in the streets. The moniker for our demonstrations should be Revolution thru Peace. We can only change the hearts of the people thru our demonstration of love one for another.
if we fight they will just kill us and call US the traitors! I wish it could be solved peacfuly but it cant realistically. Its just going to keep getting worse and worse because money talks!
Im not a democrat or republican...Im a Patriot and will be till they take my gun from my cold dead hands! I will fight for my children and grandchildren and future generations!
The media and the gov has iggyed us for years and its just gonna get worse. Its gona take a bunch of us being loaded into railroad cars and shipped off to the new prison camps before we will wake up! But then again by then it will be to late cause they will have taken all our guns away form us!
No doubt there was voter fraud, N.H. voting for a war mongerer like Mccain???? Not in this state? no way! Live free or die. 100years of war, according to Mccain. Imposible. It's the only way the globalists can keep their empire, at all costs they will make sure Ron Paul cannot win. He is their worst enemy.
Black Box Voting has been doing a chain of custody exam for the New Hampshire Primary's recount. On Wednesday night, Election Defense Alliance's Sally Castleman mentioned a troubling observation: After following the ballots back to the ballot vault following Wednesday's recount, she had the opportunity to enter the ballot vault, and noticed what looked like cuts, or slits, in the side of many ballot boxes.
No worries, say New Hampshire officials when cuts up to eight inches long are spotted in newly delivered ballot boxes. "The only seal that counts is the one on top."
Except the seal on top can be peeled off without leaving a trace, then reaffixed.
But the "seal" can be removed, like a Post-it, and reaffixed. So it's not a seal all!
We wanted to know if the ballot boxes were slit while in the vault, in the transport van, or came from the towns with slits in them.
The idea occurred to me that it would be a good idea to use the "Ron Paul Network" to get this information out quickly.
I imagined a few interesting things that might happen. * Every voter who votes for Ron Paul should INSIST on a paper ballot. * Those votes would NOT be tallied by the close of the polls and would therefore come in many hours after the polls have closed.
* This simple tactic would not only get a great deal of local publicity, it would also get national attention. As the word spreads, the public could nullify the "Diebold factor" without waiting until the next election cycle. * This would also assure that there was a clear paper trail that could tracked. It would be very unlikely that they would lose the evidence. In a recount situation it would be harder to falsify fraudulent voting as well.
* This is a simple, cost free solution to the vote fraud concern. * By the next voting cycle, If the media reports on this, voters for all candidates might adopt this idea and derail the attempt for unscrupulous individuals to steal our elections by tampering with the Diebold machines.
i have said it in 1 year the ELECTION is a fruad.. but still ron paul and most 911 truthmovement said nooo we must vote at him.
DO you really think for one moment that the GLOBAL ELITE have the great plan and let One single person destroy their plan????????????????????????????
this is what ron paul-truth supporters need to be aware of what we are up against. we must get off our ass and get out there and talk to people. and the new supporters in turn got to more people and so on (ie go viral). this can help nullify the media grip and monopoly.
I'm hoping the whole World sees what we American people have to go through with government. Mabey they will see the American people in a different light. Government is not letting our votes go through. They want a certain person for President and making it hard on the American people. This is what happened when Bush got elected.
the POWER'S that be are afraid the american armed forces wont fire on americans
thats why they want them spread all over the world, so if there is a problem they will ask for help from the un peace keeping forces...those troops wont have a problem disarming americans... it's already been done to their people
YOu need to calm down. You need to step back and look at a bigger picture instead of this narrow "everyone is conspiring against us" thing you have. No one is rigging elections against ron paul. To rig so he lost by that much would be so obvious anyone could see it. Maybe if the loss was by about 3% then you could MAYBE accuse vote fraud. But all this screaming of "DIEBOLD MUST DIE!" is just plain rediculous. DO NOT through around the words vote fixing lightly
All those damned elitists in the military and middle class America. @@
xpigx 5 days ago
Stop fabricating crap tomi. What corporations or elites support Paul or would want him to subvert their authority? His history gives no indication of such corruption. It is KNOWN that Ron Paul only receives money from citizens. Learn the truth you fool.
NavySealsOperative 1 week ago
Ron Paul has achieved 2nd and 3rd place in recent primaries. Rejected by 90% of voters? Evidently you are pulling numbers from your ass. Where did you get your statistics from? Cite your source. Revolution to combat tyranny is the same premise our founding fathers used to establish this great nation. We shall not permit insurrection in our Republic and usurpation of our constitution. Apathy is the enemy of freedom and democracy. Ron Paul supporters have rejected the "zombie" personas of mainstr
AnarchistRebelIion 1 week ago
Lol @ tomi. What "elites" support Ron Paul? His candidacy has been subsidized by well educated civilians and active duty military personnel. Not Goldman Sachs and Wells Fargo like Obama and the rest of the GOP primary contenders. Get your facts right and learn the difference between "loose" and "lose". Your illiteracy only exacerbates the characterization of your ignorance. Ron Paul "zombies" are far from drones, as they divert from mainstream consensus.
AnarchistRebelIion 1 week ago
Overall great message. It really does suck, to think that we may need to use our guns against the government but so be it... Should the time come to prove your liberty and freedoms and those of your family and friends and neighbors comes, I will not hesitate to defend me and and mine. I would hope all Americans feel the same. We are not looking for a fight, simply warning that war paint isn't necessary... We will defend on a moments notice.
grimmdanger 1 week ago
Also stop generalizing Jews. Just because you are Jewish it doesn't mean you share the same beliefs as other Jews (proof here: /watch?v=9oeB3QhX2RI)
And let me make this VERY CLEAR: I have no problem with Jewish people. I have a problem with ZIONISM.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
Do not SHIT here. Before 1 minute you called for bodybags for Jews and now you are fucking our intelligence with this Zionist and Jews story.
Its beyond being disgusting
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 "you called for bodybags for Jews"
Bodybags for the Zionist Jews that inhabit Israel. Not for every Jew in the world, idiot.
Does that make it clear enough for your dumb ass to understand? Remember youtube has a character limit so I tend to abbreviate and omit obvious adjectives, with the hope that the person reading is intelligent enough to understand. Sorry, my mistake for thinking you were intelligent enough to understanding the meanings behind my words.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
So the bodybags for 6,2 million Jews who inhabit Israel would be enough? another half of world Jews you will reward with the right to live.
Listen to me shitbag. We are people who are raised here in Israel to be proud and to know how to deal with enemies. We have dignity, power and intelligence.
Our enemies are mostly forgotten in history, and the hand of Israel can reach tomorrow anyone in any part of world.
Therefore better keep those bodybags for yourself and your family.
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 "better keep those bodybags for yourself and your family."
I live in the U.S. not that shitty lawless dessert you're over there fighting for. And unlike you, WE ARE the world's most powerful military. Not Israel, not even close. The only reason you have what you have is because WE, the American people have given it to you in exchange for help in our quest for oil and control. If we ever feel threaten by Israel we will squash you like a bug without breaking a sweat.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
I don't know where do you live, you are a troll who hide anything about itself. We are friend with American people, and Israel has up to 70% support at all polls taken in American public.
You have no any right to speak in the name of American people, you can speak in the name of Nazis and Ron Paul.
Considering bodybags-think about that.
There is an old Mossad saying "who digs a pit to us, falls into it himself!
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 "We are friend with American people you are a troll who hide anything about itself. "
We will see about that when RP gets elected. If there ever is a war against Israel I will be right there at the front line to send you back to whatever abyss you crawled out of, asshole. The only reason you have our support now is because our current govt. is corrupt and is all about money, hence the oil in the middle east.
Now fuck off, I am tired of your nonsensical religious babble.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
You are a total idiot. What kind of RP is going elected. He is loosing state by state. Tomorrow he will loose New Hampshire with 40:15%. He lost Iowa where he concentrated most of his money and paid agents. You are probably an Islamist warm, as you are spreading Islamist propaganda lies here. If you show me separate lines at Israeli airports for Arabs I will pay you 10 000$
(part 1)
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 (pm tonight.) I will be back to review this certainty. From what I see see your missing the point. Either Ron Paul is going to win and change the system, or the people are going to get sick of being under tyranny and start taking lives... I do not know a more careless attitude to have on the brink of another war. Enjoy hiding, either way this happens, I am sure cowards like yourself will just hide till you starve.
grimmdanger 1 week ago
@grimmdanger
What you mean by people? You wish to impose the object of your worship though military coup? Do you see that Ron Paul is being rejected by 80%-90% of voters everywhere? He is going to loose because the people do not vote for him. He has money, the army of brainwashed Zombies, access to all medias(despite the lies that he has no access) yet he is loosing in democratic and free elections., The elites behind his cult of personality are a danger to civil society.
Tomislavv2 1 week ago
computer voting system can be manipluted. Paper ballots should only be used.
james64468 1 month ago
Ron Paul is endorsed by Nazis,racists,Stormfront David Duke, Don Blake,fascists, communists,antisemites,America haters,rev Wright, Black Nation of Islam,Muslim jihadists etc.
This are the RP supporters
Tomislavv2 3 months ago
@Tomislavv2 I bet you are either a Zionist Jew or a Jewish Zionist.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
If you didn't notice this is Jewish channel and yes I am Jewish and I do believe in the right of Jewish people to live as independent people in the land of Israel. I have another principle which I advice for others as well. Do not communicate with those who are hiding their channels or faces. This people, like you, are usually dishonest trolls.
Hiding yourself from others strongly indicates that you have good reason for that.
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 "Do not communicate with those who are hiding their channels or faces."... Then get off the internet because here everyone is anonymous.
Hiding yourself [indicates] good reason for that. Yea... I'm on the internet talking to Zionists.
"the right of Jewish people to live as independent people in the land of Israel." The only reason you guys are there is because it is convenient for the US and also because it says it on your bible. You have no right to live there.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212 Also, I didn't even need to click on your channel or look at your picture for me to know you were a Zionist. It just goes to show you people are in a class by yourselves. A substandard class of humans, who prey on the success of other people and their government. Stealing the so called "promised" land and leach the life out of it's inhabitants. Can't wait till Ron Paul cuts off ties to you guys an lets you die in that disgusting, uninhabitable dessert you call home.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
Lorenzo, you are a psychopath, schizophrenic and a sick person who need a psychiatric care. If you "Can't wait till Ron Paul lets you die in that disgusting, uninhabitable dessert you call home" kill yourself as your ideological father did.
You are further prove what kind of sickness is behind many of Ron Paul supporters.
its enough to read your comments, your death wishes,to see your channel and read your messianic religious ideology to see who you are.
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 "Lorenzo, you are a psychopath,"
So much crap in this comment... Where do I start?
First of all my name is not Lorenzo, second of all I am an Atheist. And third, how does wanting a war to come to end make me a psycho? War is won by killing, not by singing kumbaya. The only way this war will end is with thousands of Israelis in bodybags because you will never leave Israel (or live in peace) on your own free will.
Now tell me, do you wish health&prosperity for Palestine?
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
First of all I am Mizrahi Jews originating from the Land of Israel.Second there is no war, because Israel won all wars against her. Third your dream that " the war will end is with thousands of Israelis in bodybags" was also a psychopatic dream of your ideological father Adolf Hitler and many similar before him. Yet the people of Israel lives, Israel is flourishing with more than 6 million Jews and 150 000 more every year.
(part 1)
Yet we do live and today we created a country
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@from212
Almost one century ago, after refusing two-state solution 500 000 Arabs after to be named by Hebrew word "palestinians" left the Land of Israel in the war they started. Hundreds of thousands remained, became Israeli citizens and are taking part in Israeli life. More than 1 000 000 native Middle Eastern Jews were expelled from all Arab countries, their property was stolen, their land confiscated and this Middle Eastern Jews are today the MAJORITY in Israel
part 2
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 "[Palestinians taking] part in Israeli life"
Yes I have seen how they are treated like a subclass human species, separate lines at airports. Checkpoints for Arabs only at the borders. Business owned by Arabs shut down by the govt. Arab Olive tree plantations chopped down by govt. Illegal evictions, Etc. I have seen it all. You are not speaking to one of my braindead American brethrens, I am well informed of the atrocities you guys have and continue to commit.
from212 2 weeks ago
@fr
First there are no "separate lines at airports" and newer was such thing. Arabic with Hebrew is official in Israel, and at least one fifth of those employed on airport is Arab. Business are not shoot down by government, Israeli Arabs have higher standard of living than anywhere in neighborhood illegal constructions built by both Jews and Arabs have been stoped. Israeli Arabs 1,6 million are equal citizens of Israel, do vote in elections and are having 13 representatives in Knesseth
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 I am not speculating. I have seen this with my very own eyes.
Anyways I believe I have made my point of view clear enough (not counting you) for anyone with an average level of intelligence to be able understand my hate towards Israel. So I will leave you here lying to yourself about how great your Religion and Israel is. It has been fun shoving the truth down your throat, goodbye.
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
Show us those " separate lines" on airports. I use Israeli airports 4 times in a year and this lie is tragicomic. Yes there are checkpoints on borders, separate for Israeli citizens and foreigners, nothing different than between Mexico and US
You are a liar
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 I couldn't find the footage of the seperate lines at the airport not because it doesn't exist (I have seen it) but because I am not going to waste any more of my time.
Want proof of racism and segregation in Israel? Just watch "Louis Theroux on Ultra Zionists" Here is an Excerpt: /watch?v=BLvvBLvyvxI This one shows how Jewish people were able to move in to previously Muslim-owned homes.
here is more proof of segregated schools in Israel:
/watch?v=acnEIUKI7_Y
from212 2 weeks ago
@from212
What the fuck segrageted schools in Israel. There was one private ultra-ortodox school in one city which refused Russian and Ethiopian students in 2010. The whole country stood up, the CEO of the school was removed and charged in court. The children were enlisted in school, racists were punished and justice was done.
You are a liar of unimaginable scale.
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@from212
Today Israel is a strong country, a nuclear superpower AND NO ONE ON EARTH CAN WIPE IT OUT. The time of wiping out nation is finished with your ideological father-Adolf Hitler.What he didn't succeed-you and Islamojihadist barbarians will never succeed
part 3
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
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@Tomislavv2 "Today Israel is a strong country, a nuclear superpower AND NO ONE ON EARTH CAN WIPE IT OUT."
Keep saying that to yourself. You seem to forget that Israel is a tiny piece of land in the middle of a vast ocean of angry vengeful Arabs who out number you 10 to 1. Peace between Israel and Palestine is a fantasy. The only possible outcome is Israel's complete demise, whether it happens tomorrow or in 100 years.
from212 2 weeks ago
The Jewish people are NOT subject of this debate although the racist, Nazi comments you made about Jews are indications what kind of "people" do support RP
The ONLY reason why my people is in the land of Israel, is that we have 3 500 years of continues history in that land, 2000 years of ethnic majority and 1000 years of self rule. Beside that, that land was never in history the country of any other people beside ancient and modern Israel, the rest were foreigners,ruling from outside.
Tomislavv2 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 No, your people were outcast from the middle east (and almost every other country for that matter) for your inability to adhere to the norms followed by the rest of the world. Your people have not owned any land in Israel for THOUSANDS of years. Now you are piggy backing on the UN and U.S., leaching our money to force your way into a "promised land" that has been inhabited by another culture for Millenia. Just because I climbed a tree once it doesn't make it mine forever.
from212 2 weeks ago
@Tomislavv2 Maybe you really don't get it do you? What your people are doing in Israel would be the equivalent of the native Indians forcing all Christians to move out of their country (the U.S.) because they were the original inhabitants.
This type of reasoning only applies to YOU Zionists and no one else on this planet. That is why, by no law, logic or means do you belong in Israel.
Palestinians born and raised in Israel and surrounding lands are the one who belong there.
from212 2 weeks ago
Any news since this was posted three years ago? Seems like an important story and I hope someone followed up. Have you seen this? Youtube: watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM
grantwp3 3 months ago
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variablestatus 3 months ago
Looks like an image to me
theyalllied 1 year ago
watch?v=m2FuFF5AFrw There is more than voter fraud how about the fact a New Hampshire US Senate candidate ran a militia that broke into Fort Devens planned to assassinate Dole and ran white slavery rings...
MzDragonfyre 1 year ago
@dnajlion7 - I live in southern Oregon, and I would like to know if you have any advice on organizing on a statewide level to rally support for Ron Paul in 2012.
yadidimeanmaine 1 year ago
A Ron Paul supporter in Portland???
Now that is weird!!!
Very nice video though dude.
dorlockt 2 years ago
Ron Paul wants to repeal the Federal Reserve Act remeber this! Look at what Diebold creates. They make atm machines for Jp Morgan Chase, Bank of America, and numerous other member banks of the federal reserve. They also make voting machines. So a company tied to voting machines and banks hmmm. During the presidential primaries they were considered a high yeild bond but recieved millions in quarter 2 and 3 in investments from federal reserve banks. A bank could easily control and election
mikeyooh7 3 years ago
"I am not one given to conspiracy theories. I'm just not like that... I have an optimistic view on life".
So you're an ignoramus who dislikes considering that anything pessimistic that may not or may indeed be fact.
When you call people "conspiracy theorists", it just makes you look like an idiot.
IF the facts point toward conspiracy, then I'm not going to let my assumptions confine me to ignorance.
I hope you discover many things as you search outside your comfort zone.
Jorell1000 3 years ago
as mike ruppert says,"i'm not into conspiracy theories, only conspiracy fact."
krisza420 3 years ago
It's sad. People sit in their cozy little home not considering the huge problem with the federal reserve, which is a private monopoly that owns the United States. The Federal Reserve could not spend TRILLIONS of dollars without our consent if this nation was still a democracy.
I wish I was already an adult with my career set up. I'd be stocking up on gold and moving to another country.
If we can get Ron Paul into the presidency, we may still have a chance.
Jorell1000 3 years ago
The problem is that people want to change the system with a corrupt system. No president can save us no matter how righteous he is. The truly powerful elites would sooner have him/her assassinated than give up even an inch of control. Turn your back on the banks, taxes, politics, the media, their money, their system, their jobs... It's a huge sacrifice that i doubt even I can muster the courage to make. But its the only way to save ourselves...
CLane1983 3 years ago
Yes, I agree. I know they would blast Ron Paul if he even cast a shadow across their evil paths. The idea of rejecting government is nice. First I think we need to march in campaigns for Ron Paul, etc, so that people will become aware of the problem. Once they are aware of the problem, then maybe we can do like you say and change the government from the bottom up. =)
Jorell1000 3 years ago
You need to have a theory (suspicion), investigate it, find evidence, then come up with the facts/proof.
Therefor conspiracy theories are important, as an in-depth investigation will come up with facts.
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago
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YouTubReptilian 3 years ago
obviously obama will get troops out of iraq on that everyone should vote for him. McCain plans on having them till 2013, obama is closest to Ron Paul
willyjmoore 3 years ago
so... let me see if i understand this correctly. you are one, by your own admission, to dismiss all other "conspiracy theories" but if you find something that looks "odd", or does not "jive" with the "official story", hey, lets all look into this.
what's the word i'm looking for here... hypocrite?
i think you need to understand what the meaning of the word 'conspiracy' is, and what it means to conspire to do something.
pkeshish 3 years ago 2
Obama Plagarized Bush's Energy Proposal from the State of the Union Address back in 2006! Look it up on YouTube That traitor Pelosi didn't allow the plan to become law. So I guess I'll wait for Obama to mail me a tire guage to reduce my energy consumption huh! The DNC is buying votes in exchange for crack cocaine... Google it and read the news stories. What a disgrace Obama turned out to be. I'm voting for McCaine!
webxsuccess 3 years ago
Mccain will be no better than Obama, as he continues to bankrupt this country with illegal and unconstitutional wars. Ron Paul's ideas are the ONLY answer to this mess . . .
dnajlion7 3 years ago 2
@webxsuccess McCain really?? Don't you think we have spent enough trillions of dollars on wars? We could really use all that money to fix the economy and create jobs instead of creating bombs. McCain will continue the so called war on terror.
from212 2 weeks ago
Actually, we need to get in line, be very good "useless eaters" (or "peasants") & just load up our credit cards with lots & lots of debt & TOTALLY IGNORE anyone who even HINTS that there ever WAS such a WORD as conspiracy!
Total fascist world domination can ONLY be GOOD! It may be hell for 4/5ths of the world BUT those remaining will be allowed to live & work 12 hour days for bread & that is GOOD!
DON'T listen to "those" "conspiracy NUTS"!
EVERYTHING is coincidence! NOTHING'S EVER "planned"!
t4705mb6 3 years ago
50% of Americans going to jail because they violate 'unjust laws' would halt the economy. No leaders can control a population that refuses them.
So, don't fight. Do the right thing - ALL the time. This may mean don't spend money on illegal things, like unconstitutional wars, etc. Learn the cultural and moral base for our constitution/law, and live that way. The gov't will HAVE to change if enough of us do. Our biggest threat is ourselves: individual choice to be lazy or responsible.
stevemcgee99 3 years ago
Bull Shit, Babolyon is on the brink of falling just as the Roman Empire did.
bootycall97 3 years ago
Hey, keep in mind - the US military is staffed by US citizens. Killing National Guardsmen is the same as fighting against shoppers at the mall that you disagree with. DON'T talk about violence against Americans, man!
That's what civil disobedience is for, it's the only ethical way to go. For example, I don't want others to use force to control my life. So I should limit my effort to controlling my own life. Widespread civil disobedience is stronger than any military action, and less die.
stevemcgee99 3 years ago
beutifull picture in this video, do you have more? its an accident that the candle sit on Hungary?
itsAndrogyn 3 years ago
No, the Menorah is on top of Jordan...
PeoplesGeneral 3 years ago
Ron Paul's campaign is also largely funded by the US military... no matter what he says, when has the military ever been supportive of what the American people want? It's just another honey pot meant to get people who STILL believe in the vote out of the woodwork, high visibility. No one man can change this system.
*if voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal -- emma goldman*
VioletSable 3 years ago
Election fraud began in the US with the 2000 election and has been present since. All one needs to do is compare the vote tally with the exit poll tally. When they differ greatly, the vote is being manipulated. We need to do something about this. RISE UP!!
expansiondg 3 years ago
Honestly,I think the last two elections have been rigged and I think this time around if there is a dispute in count such as in 2004, POPULAR vote should decide.This administration has no respect for the people of this Nation.The Government is supposed to serve us, yet they're making us slaves via manipulation of the economy, etc.Of course, the NeoCons don't want Ron Paul to win.They think if he looks like he can't win, we'll give up. The answer to that issue is communication between the masses.
57girl 3 years ago 11
What's a statatician? Learn the language please.
What are the updates on this issue? Both for RP and Obama? thanks.
investur 3 years ago
Ron Paul violated one of the most consistently observed rules of American political life in the GOP debate in South Carolina the other night: government officials are never, ever to level with the American population. The people are to be endlessly flattered, spoken to in bumper-sticker slogans, and in general treated like seven-year-olds.
Thomas E. Woods, Jr. May 17, 2007
3bleadpencil 3 years ago 4
bump
ianlondeo 3 years ago
It doesn't matter which Party you vote for, both are controlled by criminal Zionists and International Bankers.
If you want more info then check these websites out.
prothink. org
HugeQuestions. com
iamthewitness. com
sega88 3 years ago 4
If we pull out of the system, don't support it, then they will have no choice.Isn't it way too late? Five years ago, it might have worked.Americans are all too dependent upon their the system now. here is enough people now who are informed, but the illegal immigrants have flooded our country, NAFTA, our jobs are being taken. with 2001 came a robbery from the Amn. Mdl class.Where did that money go?It ended up in someone's hands?Gov't corruput? Who's hands did the money fall into? Again, the rich.
dmoon12 3 years ago 3
I guess we'll just have to pull ourselves up by the nutsacks and learn to live off the land. The real reason that no one "does anything" about it is because everyone is so addicted to having their lives meted out by the zionist/banker secret societies and by all the modern pleasures that this society helps them acquire, not to mention systematic mind control and suggestion with doping (fluoride). If we want change, we're going to have to be willing to go back to the land.
VioletSable 3 years ago
This also happened in TX. OH. also.
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buddyfreakinholly 3 years ago
when the NEW WORLD ORDER takes full effect the gov't puppets will not have to worry about that silly piece of paper AKA The Constitution....Once the North American Union is put in full effect...wake up people it is time for a full REBELLION!!! cut the puppet strings!
ohponderthis 3 years ago
teamlaw . org is the answer. Why fight when the Original Jurisdictional Government can be reseated. Learn your history! 42 of the required 48 states have already seated the OJG Governors. Read on and study.
kiltit 3 years ago
America is fkd. I'm completely disgusted with the corruption and arrogance. The next time anyone tells me America is so great and mighty, I will spit in their face!
lkaa2 3 years ago 2
The only arrogant Americans out there are the polititians who do not represent the average American. America is great because of it's Constitution. We are mighty when we are what we were ment to be, not when we invade countries and try to rule the world.
fridgeman101101 3 years ago
You are a piece of shit.
Americans aren't whats wrong, they are some of the best people in the world.
It's the international corperate buisnessmen that made America the shithole it is.
The Constitution is the best thing to get wrote on paper since the Bible, when America follows it they are the best.
lukedulude 3 years ago
I somewhat agree. We all know corporations run this country and they are a problem but the main problem is lack of American pride. Nobody cares even if their is voter fraud anymore. The people are so brainwashed they believe that their digital votes are correctly counted. 99% of Americans cant tell you what any Amendment says, which is sad!
brown55061 3 years ago
You sound worried rightly so, If the worst happens and you and thousands like you are ignored march on Washington tell the world. We need our arse kicking over the pond, for letting our selected leaders sell our rights to unelected people in brussels
widdow147 4 years ago 2
The media can no longer fool us or lie us into believing the choices they are giving us are ours. McCain is unelectable. Hillary is ...? No one knows who Obama is. The only candidate for the American people is RON PAUL! Are we going to let the media choose our president again, or are we going to vote Ron Paul and TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!!!!!!!
prof5759 4 years ago 3
prof5759-----take back America? HOW?!! The people DON'T control the government. You vote and thats about it! Haven't you noted the crap by the Bush Administration? Shit. The ONLY way to make a direct change is a civil war. Tough reality but true.
lkaa2 3 years ago
The people elect officials, which means we all collectively choose who represents us. As we now know, our elected officials are not representing the American people, but represent greed, fascism, evil and treason. We can oust who ever we put into office. It is time for a revolution, but many people forget that we can do it without guns. We are America. We pay the taxes. We build the sky scrapers. We make the country work. We are in full control, and don't any of you forget that.
SignalLost730 3 years ago 4
ABSOLUTELY..It is PAST TIME for a revolution and the revolution should have begun in 2000 when the SUPREME COURT went against the VOICE OF THE PEOPLE and put GWB in office!
You are right, this will have to be a REVOLUTION of VOICE, and the REFUSAL to COOPEARATE...
This COUNTRY is NOTHING without the working people keeping it fueled up DAILY!
Once we SHUT THE RAT RACE DOWN!
America will TRULY BELONG to the American People!
NO WORK,NO PURCHASE,PLANT GARDEN,SIMPLE LIFE!
SoulFlower69 3 years ago 3
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jamic7 3 years ago 3
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jamic7 3 years ago 3
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Ron Paul is unelectable, he's a right-wing extremist and a NWO conspiracist.
rjfrjf65 3 years ago
Yeah...um...right.
Try again.
Simon91956 3 years ago
Well-documented facts actually.
rjfrjf65 3 years ago
wow. you're as smart as paris hilton.
mikederpanzer 3 years ago
Thanks for adding some intelligent discourse to the debate.
rjfrjf65 3 years ago
we have to go martin luther king on their asses. violence is what they WANT us to do. look up the warner defense authorization act... they have already put in place the plan to gun us down when we try to get our rights back.
cyberpsygen7 4 years ago 2
There are a good number of people agreeing with you and me.
I heard that each American Soldier in Service is required to decide what to do not just follow every order blindly.
Just like you, I hope that it doesn't get to the point where the people would have to arm against the state. But logically, there is no other direction if the courts continue this course.
I think that we all sense the fear and pressure building already.
I'm a pessimist like Ron Paul about the economy, but not this.
datdavidle 4 years ago
also go to blackboxvoting. org
This situation is really really very very bad! And it seems we have no recourse to the law!
Tesselator 4 years ago 4
Hey dnajlion7
Hey everyone...
Look at this: watch?v=W8wjJieSib0
I'm seeing reports like this all across the country in almost every super-tuesday state.
Tesselator 4 years ago
This is crazy, how are they getting away with this ???
Keep drawing attention to this.
Go Ron Paul.
dublin58 4 years ago 13
Great Post dnajlion7 Sorry to hear you have to abide in Portland. Getting Portland to eliminate Election Fraud would be more difficult than even New Hampshire. The mail-in ballots are gathered and prepared for machine scanning and counting in the basement of some building downtown, but the TV reporters are not given access to that ballot prep room. Instead, Portland affiliates show video of the DieBold AccuVote scanners being fed and running through the stacks. Portland is corruption-central.
008klm 4 years ago
Registered Republican in mid Aug. in NY. (Deadline Oct.12) Both my wife and I denied right to vote for RP
jam9905 4 years ago
WOW! I think many of these thoughts cross ALL AMERICANS at certain times in our lives. Well said everyone and thank you for giving us a place to say what we really believe in!
Joan
winslowwind 4 years ago
dnajlion...you say you are not a "conspiracy theorist". Does that mean that you believe that no one in high office has ever colluded with another wretch of kindred spirit to rip off or otherwise do harm to the American people? Why does the word "conspiracy" still exist in Balck's Law Dictionary? You say you think positively...ok, ok...but too much of what happens in this country is so abjectly negative and a true patriot has to face it.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago 2
not being a conspiracy theorist, does not mean that you don't beleve in conspiracies, just that you don't formulate, sight, or investigate them.
I noticed you attacked someones views, without knowing what the words he used means. then complained about the worlds negativity...
dreamthinker79 4 years ago
Yes, and this is because most words in America today have become at their best cabalisms that can now have so many different meanings for so many different people through gross abuse and misuse over the decades---a word with so many different "interpretations" and "meanings" is thereby rendered meaningless. Just a random perusal of Supine Court case law is enough to convince anyone of that. Anyway, go on doing your thing as I do mine.
bionicmisfit 4 years ago
A quote from Nilsson's THE POINT. "A point in every direction, is the same as no point at all"
prof5759 4 years ago
What does Ron Paul Have In Common With Lee Harvey Oswald ? Maybe Nothing..Maybe A Lot.
1) Despite everyone else's varying range of % and places finished , Ron Paul almost invariably finished 4th with 3-6% ( especially in heavily populated areas)
2) Just As Oliver Stone's "JFK: depicted 3 Phony Lee Harvey Oswalds , I See A Possible Scheme
3) Huckabee Paul , Pomney Paul & McCain Paul "Flipping The Script "
UpliftDaRace144 4 years ago
IF Ron Paul doesn't win the Republican nomination, then TX should secede from the Union (it's the only state that can do so- & then Ron Paul can be the president there, whereby, of course, I'd be moving to TX!!!
jetsetjoey 4 years ago
I agree secede !!!We the younger generation need to move to one state and the Baby boomers can have their future they have voted for and sold out to.I hate BBs
Hroark7 4 years ago
Fight to become to become a delegate! Run under McCain's name if you need to get elected! heh, heh. We just need Ron Paul supporters as delegates. It doesn't matter what candidate you are listed to "represent".
At the convention you can vote for whoever you want!
PLEASE donate at ronpaul2008(dot)com
purplefetus3 4 years ago
Thanks Daniel for your video. I agree with you wholheartedly...I live outside of the US and although I don't fully understand the voting system there it seems very clear that voter fraud is going on. Please America stand up and demand a vote recount & support people who have the courage to step forward such as Daniel to uncover the truth and as he said not just for yourselves but your nation and I would add "the world"....Namaste
ahglbell 4 years ago
Of COURSE there's voter fraud! HOW do you think Juan McCain is the front runner when he was down in the single digits? BUSH wants to be sure his AMNESTY and NAU is carried out no matter WHO's in office, and Juan McCain WILL carry the Bush torch!
AmericanPolitix 4 years ago
ATTENTION EVERYONE:
Check this video on how Fox news really works!!!! In regards Dr. Ron Paul
Share this video. Behind the Scenes!!!!! This is some powerful stuff.
watch?v=UG-Tu2Qidbk
bluesky37043 4 years ago
It is not just your right to bear arms it is your duty
frankbeisel 4 years ago
IM WITH YOU MAN, everyone should make a video complaining about this, we DO need to do something about this
jubetube66 4 years ago
we love Ron Paul
sodasoap 4 years ago 2
newswithviews(dot)com/Devvy/kidd337(dot)htm...Update on recount of New Hampshire vote fraud.
principles101 4 years ago
It does not matter who will win. The Shadow government is still in control over the world.
rubbe 4 years ago
Don't be such a coward. No one can have that kind of power unless you give them said power. Don't be afraid. Fear is the tool they use to control us.
davidblack9071 4 years ago
Do not lay down for them. Make sure you vote in your primary, no matter what state you are in. The time is now.
spkrman6 4 years ago
Why vote in a primary? They know exactly who you are and who you vote for... is that democratic?
galussp 4 years ago
Americans taking up arms against other AMERICANS is NOT the answer. The American military is stressed enough, dont stress them more by making them point their weapons at other Americans. A wall of unarmed civilians is much more effective then scattered armed resistance.
gibsonbenusarmy 4 years ago
fuck that. how about a wall of ARMED civilians with scattered armed resistance. lol
wildboy789789 4 years ago
Theres no such thing as an ARMED civilian, once they take up arms, they are enemy combatants. And Im pretty sure the US Military has bigger guns then walmart.
gibsonbenusarmy 4 years ago
well. Iraq is just full of armed civilians and the U.S. is loesing lol
wildboy789789 4 years ago
What is metioned here is nearing Civil War, and that is a 180 from the direction Dr. Paul wants to take this country. In my oppinion, we need to take this back to basics....if a digital counting system is not meeting the standards, then we need another system.
gibsonbenusarmy 4 years ago
Lets go back to paper ballots, and watch them being counted from beginning to end, I would also like a copy of myne if possible.
Gretchen570 4 years ago
Being a current member of the military, I have mixxed feelings about this video. I agree with Dr. Paul on most of his standings, if not all. I definatly dont like hearing the ideas of taking up arms against the US Military as the whole idea of Dr. Paul's campaign is to SAVE America.
gibsonbenusarmy 4 years ago
I concur... Military members take an oath to uphold the constitution against all enemies. Bear in mind that the constitution is written by "we the people" and that according to the declaration of independence governments derive their powers from the consent of the governed. The military won't fight an unarmed populace, they can't.
davidblack9071 4 years ago
if i recall didnt they fight against black activists 40 years ago or is that just me...
eltimo556 4 years ago
Reread your history. Federal Troops protected black activists which led to the killing of black soldiers by the KKK. I think you confusing this for Kent University in Ohio which was in 1970 (an antiwar demonstration). Go read about Bastille Day...
davidblack9071 4 years ago
i was referring to the police brutalites against black activisits so i dont really think i can really say that the military can be blamed, but the war we have now is against the constitution and i think all military personal should be aware of that.
eltimo556 4 years ago
The police are going to brutalize anyone they can get away with. That is the nature of the beast. My point is that you shouldn't be afraid of that. Ass beatings, dog bites, and fire hoses are worth standing up to in a fight for freedom. If we stand up for Ron Paul we know we won't die if we do it non violently.
davidblack9071 4 years ago
An ass whipping only hurts for a few days, doing what's right lasts forever.
LoganGabriel 4 years ago
Listen, what do the Liberals do when they don't like something-- they take it to the courts. We need to find an attorney (Pro Bono)and have him/her work this for their Country! I'm not sure who we would sue-- but who ever is in charge of the digital counting probably. Any honest and Patriotic Attorney's out there-- who are willing to serve your Country? You will get major exposure from this!!!
tenlegsss 4 years ago
When he talks about the force of the army against the people, I would like to remember everyone that the army is for Ron Paul, if there is a revolution the army will be a part of it, not the contrary.
Mouetteinc 4 years ago
when it comes to retaking our democratic republic NO option can be taken off the table.
grimster888 4 years ago
Ron Pauls supporters understand very well . They have devoted all there funds and there lives to his gaining the president office. When folks read what Ron Paul is about, he gives hope. I am a Strong Republican and after I have discovered Ron Paul will win and can. I have hope and am going to march strong for my nation and children
llkwildcatt 4 years ago 2
sigh....
Ok theve already talked about this on MSNBC. Hillary got more digital votes yes, but guess what those machines were is populated urban centers. Obama got the support of rural areas (paper voting). But ok, go with the conspiracy.
johnkerry7 4 years ago
Good Video, thanks.
Nataraja13 4 years ago 3
Looking at Ron Paul's support from within the military, I am willing to assume that a large part of the military would side with us.
Nicholai420 4 years ago 9
I just canceled my 7 year account with paypal for causing the stop of Granny Warriors from getting a recount in New Hampshire.
Join the movement and pass it on.
Ron Paul 2008!
slackbacker 4 years ago 7
Watch out for HR1955!
169just4u 4 years ago 4
It's just a matter of time my friend. Enjoy what's left of your American Freedoms. They won't be around much longer.
moparmuscle1970 4 years ago 7
Why on Earth do you Say that?
planetuncle 4 years ago
Dude, don't just roll over and pee on yourself- find and attorney to sue the basterds, that's what the Liberals do-- why can't we?
tenlegsss 4 years ago
Fighting is not the answer. Lets wait and see if our next president is elected by the people, or by the government.
thrustingmaggot 4 years ago
Well, in the long run what do you do when you discover the "elite" put in their puppet, and the people are sold down the drain. Wait until it's all over but the cryin, and then decide "OH, we can't let this happen?"
planetuncle 4 years ago 3
My post below this one does well to imply that I agree with the opinions of the person in the audio message you are listening to right now. In order to be around when I am needed I try not to flat out say what needs to be done. My opinions are well known to those who need the info. Believe me sir, I am on your side. I have drawn my line in the sand. That is where I will stand. I will fall before I will back down.
thrustingmaggot 4 years ago
I am with you. I agree that taking on the Military is a big job, but it doesn't have to be armed combat. As you said, "we" includes current members of the military. And that goes all the way op to Generals that don't want anything to do with this hacked administration. The Revolution is Now. Hopefully peaceful but prepared for whatever it takes.
IMNumber6 4 years ago
wait and see!?
the president is ALWAYS nto elected by the peo[ple...its called the electoral collego
kicksex 4 years ago
"Who *wants* to take up arms against the government?"
More people than you think!
By "government" I mean a governing body of elected officials. It seems as though the government has changed the rules in their favor. This disturbs me a bit.
By "Military" (God bless'em) I do mean people who are our family, our friends, and our neighbors. You missed one. They are ourselves as well. They see what is happening just as well as you do. It disturbs them a bit as well.
thrustingmaggot 4 years ago
What can we do? Utilize his idea and further spread it. Think of clever ways to get the other candidates' supporters and other people to take a peek at what they are voting against. Also, point out the corruption while also letting people make up their own minds.
Currently, the powers that be that are attacking Ron Paul are being counter productive becuase Ron Paul's responses to the attacks leave him looking like a saint. Essentially, they are giving Ron Paul free media coverage.
Voidka 4 years ago
The use for the parties is that the candidates for both parties for the national election are pre-selected. Ron Paul will end up having to run an independent individual solo with our backing.
Oh yeah, armed resistance is NOT the right answer. The whole reason they are trying to shoot down Ron Paul is because he has presented an idea that is spreading like wild fire. They want the idea to die, essentially the political movement.
Voidka 4 years ago
So in actuality we will just be fighting ourselves, unless we are able to touch those doing the damage to this country. In a free country like ours there are means in place that we should be able to use for representation--you cannot then TAKE away those means i.e. vote fraud, media censorship, etc. and leave the people of the country with no other choice. IT'S CRIMINAL, and there would/will be for sure a negative outcome.
aslansalive 4 years ago
Who *wants* to take up arms against the government? NO ONE. By 'government', we mean military, people who are our friends, family, and neighbors. But make no mistake about it, the powers that be will gladly turn their force towards the American people and villianize anyone who dares to stand up for what's right, for freedom, for liberty..
aslansalive 4 years ago
I'm so sorry to hear about your suggestion that we should take up arms against our own government. With tomorrow being the birthday of Martin Luther King we should take up his banner to start peaceful demonstrations in the streets. The moniker for our demonstrations should be Revolution thru Peace. We can only change the hearts of the people thru our demonstration of love one for another.
energyfromwater 4 years ago
if we fight they will just kill us and call US the traitors! I wish it could be solved peacfuly but it cant realistically. Its just going to keep getting worse and worse because money talks!
Im not a democrat or republican...Im a Patriot and will be till they take my gun from my cold dead hands! I will fight for my children and grandchildren and future generations!
helivestubes 4 years ago
The media and the gov has iggyed us for years and its just gonna get worse. Its gona take a bunch of us being loaded into railroad cars and shipped off to the new prison camps before we will wake up! But then again by then it will be to late cause they will have taken all our guns away form us!
helivestubes 4 years ago
No doubt there was voter fraud, N.H. voting for a war mongerer like Mccain???? Not in this state? no way! Live free or die. 100years of war, according to Mccain. Imposible. It's the only way the globalists can keep their empire, at all costs they will make sure Ron Paul cannot win. He is their worst enemy.
charliess88 4 years ago
Black Box Voting has been doing a chain of custody exam for the New Hampshire Primary's recount. On Wednesday night, Election Defense Alliance's Sally Castleman mentioned a troubling observation: After following the ballots back to the ballot vault following Wednesday's recount, she had the opportunity to enter the ballot vault, and noticed what looked like cuts, or slits, in the side of many ballot boxes.
sallyann22 4 years ago
No worries, say New Hampshire officials when cuts up to eight inches long are spotted in newly delivered ballot boxes. "The only seal that counts is the one on top."
Except the seal on top can be peeled off without leaving a trace, then reaffixed.
But the "seal" can be removed, like a Post-it, and reaffixed. So it's not a seal all!
We wanted to know if the ballot boxes were slit while in the vault, in the transport van, or came from the towns with slits in them.
sallyann22 4 years ago
The idea occurred to me that it would be a good idea to use the "Ron Paul Network" to get this information out quickly.
I imagined a few interesting things that might happen. * Every voter who votes for Ron Paul should INSIST on a paper ballot. * Those votes would NOT be tallied by the close of the polls and would therefore come in many hours after the polls have closed.
sallyann22 4 years ago
* This simple tactic would not only get a great deal of local publicity, it would also get national attention. As the word spreads, the public could nullify the "Diebold factor" without waiting until the next election cycle. * This would also assure that there was a clear paper trail that could tracked. It would be very unlikely that they would lose the evidence. In a recount situation it would be harder to falsify fraudulent voting as well.
sallyann22 4 years ago
* This is a simple, cost free solution to the vote fraud concern. * By the next voting cycle, If the media reports on this, voters for all candidates might adopt this idea and derail the attempt for unscrupulous individuals to steal our elections by tampering with the Diebold machines.
sallyann22 4 years ago
people are amazing!!
i have said it in 1 year the ELECTION is a fruad.. but still ron paul and most 911 truthmovement said nooo we must vote at him.
DO you really think for one moment that the GLOBAL ELITE have the great plan and let One single person destroy their plan????????????????????????????
Mahdiarmy 4 years ago
this is what ron paul-truth supporters need to be aware of what we are up against. we must get off our ass and get out there and talk to people. and the new supporters in turn got to more people and so on (ie go viral). this can help nullify the media grip and monopoly.
enjoingoodness 4 years ago
I'm hoping the whole World sees what we American people have to go through with government. Mabey they will see the American people in a different light. Government is not letting our votes go through. They want a certain person for President and making it hard on the American people. This is what happened when Bush got elected.
Naej27 4 years ago 7
the POWER'S that be are afraid the american armed forces wont fire on americans
thats why they want them spread all over the world, so if there is a problem they will ask for help from the un peace keeping forces...those troops wont have a problem disarming americans... it's already been done to their people
BBSISEEYOU 4 years ago
thanks., here's hoping that the voting system really is rigged. i'm writing in martha stewart for 09
matthew871 4 years ago
Diebold was used in NH.
Diebold can be reprogrammed to switch votes from one candidate to another INSIDE the machine, so the optical scanners are irrelevant.
It's irrelevant who was actually voted for.
Diebold are the weak link - and as Princeton called for, they should be removed.
evidence - from those who monitor election fraud
watch?v=JkKdJoWG3qQ
sallyann22 4 years ago 2
YOu need to calm down. You need to step back and look at a bigger picture instead of this narrow "everyone is conspiring against us" thing you have. No one is rigging elections against ron paul. To rig so he lost by that much would be so obvious anyone could see it. Maybe if the loss was by about 3% then you could MAYBE accuse vote fraud. But all this screaming of "DIEBOLD MUST DIE!" is just plain rediculous. DO NOT through around the words vote fixing lightly
taranakinz 4 years ago
Thanks for your video. If you haven't seen this yet, check out "hacking democracy" and the website blackboxvoting dot org.
realproductions 4 years ago 2
This comment has received too many negative votes show
what I want to know is why ron paul is not crying about this? A: because he knows he had an abysmal showing
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