the new subaru sti looks ugly but guess what people the 2011 subaru wrx sti are awesome and they look really cool with 4 exaugsts and starting with over 300bhp+
I own the 2008 STI and I will Own the evo x eventually also the reason i bought the Sti first is when you see it in the flesh it is a much better looking car in real life than in pics/video. I do believe after driven both that in a straight line or track the evo will out perform the Sti but the Sti will give you a hard time and that is what floats my boat tbh a car that does it all for you is for the family :-) so the kids can come in the evo but the Sti is mine :p
wut are u guys talkin about... the evo is probably the most aggressive looking car out there... and dont worry about quality... mitsubishi has taken care of that in the 2010 touring evo X model... comes with leather EVERYTHING, in-dash screen, audio jacks, sunroof, color computer outread (in between rpm n mph its not red anymore)... look it up on here... so wut u suby guys have to say now... the evo has all around better performance, looks, handling, brakes and very soon to be interior...
Not actually its not better in performance and looks aswell as handling or brakes. They are equally matched when it comes to handling and brakes. Performance the Suby will most likely win on dyno and is the vehicle of choice in this day and age. When you buy a evo that costs 30k plus for performance when you can get a suby for 25k with the performance you need. Evo is very over rated
yresistme, you called it. I bought a 2010 MR Touring after owning a WRX limited, and I love it! Road and track has tested the MR touring (11.09) to run 0-60 in 4.6 seconds, it breaks sooner than an STI, beats an STI or EVO X GSR on any road course/laptimes with its dual clutch SST transmission. All this performance PLUS better looks PLUS functioning aero kits, PLS leather and heated RECAROs, all leather seats, arm rests, power moonroof, color LCD, a more advanced AWD (S-AWC with yaw control)EVO
the new STI styling is sad Extremely ugly I couldn't believe it when I saw it very disappointing styling the older model is much nicer, the Evo in other hand looks better I always liked the Subaru quality and style better but this Subaru is just way too ugly they fucked up the design
I thought the same until I saw the Evo X in the flesh and was horribly disappointed. It looks like a slightly angry Volvo. The Impreza is no beauty but, with 18 inch wheels (which should be standard) it has far more attitude and presence. It also deosn't break down every week unlike the, seemingly, poorly built Evo X.
o no doubt the quality of the Subaru is better than Evo x. I could deal with the Subaru being a hatch but the front end I don't know it reminds of the mazda 3 too much but still the Subaru is better quality car than Evo for sure
@Ali360 hey What are you talking about break down every week? I never had my evox break down on me since I got it, and I use it on race also. Maybe you dont know how to use the evo x, or maybe your doing something you wasn't suppose to.
Yes exactally I saw both in the flesh and the STI looks way better to me now. I always had a soft spot for EVO's but dont right the STI off beacuse it looks mean up close go and see for you self especailly from the side and front
I'll agree the performance on the two are the same but the hatchback looks so gay on the subaru this year.I'll have to say when the evo goes around the turn theirs more drift to it then the sti.
Look at 1:00 on the vid. STI driver has to use severe lift-off oversteer in order to get the car to slide, then at 1:02 you can see the understeer start to build up.
Whereas with the Evo you can just put it where you want it, how you want it.
he doesnt have to do that, he just wants to get it to slide for a long time. whatever, have it where you want it in our evo,but you will still get beat by a subaru. Also that is just subarus pwrc car. put an impreza wrc in there and the evo would get killed. mitsubishi dont even compete in real wrc anymore.
They don't need to compete anymore, they pwned the competition four years in a row. They got so bored they said "fuck this shit!" and started smoking joints instead.
lol. no they stopped because they were getting beat after tommi left. they only won because he was a good driver. 2005 season subaru:95 Mitsubishi :75 and because of financial problems. probably because nobody wants their crappy cars. Subaru pwned the competition 3 years in a row and they dont quit.
Your conversation is going childish. Both are rally cars, and used a lot there. Mitsubishi won 4 in row. To inform you, WRC isnt even close of most powerful class, and its rules doestn allow evos hitech 4wd system whit active differentials. So all evos benefits are disallowed .... Evos are very good rally cars, and very much used in other rally classes, I bet more than subarus.
no. even if they used their ayc it still wouldnt beat a subaru in rally. yeah they won 4 in a row and havent won anything since. while subaru won 47 or so rallys since 2005 (2005 because mitsu quit rally after that) mitsu only won about 34 rallys since then.
A little bit facts on table boy, anyone cant name, how many rallys have been won whit evos, because they are used soo widely, in other serieses too. WRC is just one little piece in the big cake. You dont have any facts.
yes they can. they won 34 if i remember correctly. while subaru won 47. they are used in other series, but its not mitsubishi making the cars. its other tuning companies like hks and cusco.
Understeer - have to enter a corner slower in order for the front to grip, otherwise you'll run wide and loose time. Unless of course you use lift-off oversteer but that can be unpredictable. Dull to drive.
Oversteer - depending upon your skill, can enter a corner several MPH faster, catching the oversteer and enabling a slight powerslide/drift from the apex to the exit of the turn, all in a controlled manner. Fun to drive.
About 4wd techs. There where STI has only active center. Evo has Active rear and cetner, torsen front diff. And in on road models, they have integrated SST-TC and traction control to operate together whit this 4wd system. If you look the TG's test video, you see how big difference is in these 2 cars handling. Evo goes exactly the line you want.
Your discussing skills and arguments are poor, I am not interested to talk about this anymore. You can like and be fan of subaru, I dont care. I am not fanatic of evo or subaru, I am just seeing what benefits both cars have.
If you've seen any race car driver interview, invariably you'll hear them complain about, say, the rear of the car stepping out, the front of the car getting light, uneven front to rear tire wear, or difficult to accelerate out of the corner. These are all manifestation of oversteering or understeering. Except in the sport of drifting, the sole goal of the race engineers and team is to get the car as neutral as possible. And yes, even in WRC. In fact, it should be "especially in WRC."
Can you give a more contradicting statement than that?
The very definition of having good handling characteristic is having neither understeer or oversteer. So while the STI may understeer a bit, the EVO is just as "bad" but in an oversteering way.
Also, it is a commonly accepted fact that a car that tends to understeer a bit at its limit is faster than a car that tends to oversteer. This is, I believe, what Subaru has tried to achieve in all of its cars.
If you've seen any race car driver interview, invariably you'll hear them complain about, say, the rear of the car stepping out, the front of the car getting light, uneven front to rear tire wear, or difficult to accelerate out of the corner. These are all manifestation of oversteering or understeering. Except in the sport of drifting, the sole goal of the race engineers and team is to get the car as neutral as possible. And yes, even in WRC. In fact, it should be "especially in WRC."
Also, please, look up the technical definition of oversteering and understeering. These phenomenons are related to the relationship between front and rear tire yaw angles. Any respectable texts and race car dynamics would tell you that. And any respectable race car dynamic text would also tell you that a car with a slight understeer at the limit is faster due to drivers' inability to control a car that tends to oversteer at the limit.
krittmasta > looks like you never tested evo... evo is better controled car than sti, sti has brutal power, steering control, so you need more skils to drive sti the same as evo. but with the same skils evo is better, and more potential. i like the way sti is landing - on all 4, evo 8,9 on front axle, but evo 10 on all 4 wheels. evo YAW control is wonderfull thing. you never thinked why sti is cheaper than evo?
i like impreza (GT) but being objective - evo is more precicious.
EVO or STI is all personal choice depending on how you drive. I prefer STI though. I just like how it moves and how it has more control than EVO. I think evo has potential, but I hate interior and how the steering is not so honest.
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0:50 look how EVO started the drift, right, then left...
adrianTNT 8 months ago
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adrianTNT 8 months ago
I Though it was GT5 for a second!!
yamenad 9 months ago
@yamenad gt5 doesnt look like it was shot with toaster oven
xyzdorky66 5 months ago
@xyzdorky66 well said friend :D
BL1RN5Y 4 months ago
Hatch STi looks better in person than it is with the Evo personally.
HatenSuffering 1 year ago
Tsukuba . I only know this from Forza Motorsports 2-3 and when I used to watch D1 Grand Prix. Haha.
carveriscool 1 year ago
07 sti ftw!!
allanm17 1 year ago
I can't wait to see the new evo but when coming out
Masrider555 1 year ago
IMPREZA WRX STI FAIL EVO MATCH BETTER ...
Ravenixx 1 year ago
the new subaru sti looks ugly but guess what people the 2011 subaru wrx sti are awesome and they look really cool with 4 exaugsts and starting with over 300bhp+
umjewslayer 1 year ago
In Rally STi wins, In the track Evo wins.
momay69 1 year ago
both = best
nikesb23451 2 years ago
I'll just say one thing: That dude in the STi was tearing it up out there.
Rsimon859 2 years ago
lame no crashes
GregMooreCorpse 2 years ago
I own the 2008 STI and I will Own the evo x eventually also the reason i bought the Sti first is when you see it in the flesh it is a much better looking car in real life than in pics/video. I do believe after driven both that in a straight line or track the evo will out perform the Sti but the Sti will give you a hard time and that is what floats my boat tbh a car that does it all for you is for the family :-) so the kids can come in the evo but the Sti is mine :p
inspiredTalent 2 years ago
wut are u guys talkin about... the evo is probably the most aggressive looking car out there... and dont worry about quality... mitsubishi has taken care of that in the 2010 touring evo X model... comes with leather EVERYTHING, in-dash screen, audio jacks, sunroof, color computer outread (in between rpm n mph its not red anymore)... look it up on here... so wut u suby guys have to say now... the evo has all around better performance, looks, handling, brakes and very soon to be interior...
yresistme 2 years ago 3
Not actually its not better in performance and looks aswell as handling or brakes. They are equally matched when it comes to handling and brakes. Performance the Suby will most likely win on dyno and is the vehicle of choice in this day and age. When you buy a evo that costs 30k plus for performance when you can get a suby for 25k with the performance you need. Evo is very over rated
RussiangrimRpr 2 years ago
yresistme, you called it. I bought a 2010 MR Touring after owning a WRX limited, and I love it! Road and track has tested the MR touring (11.09) to run 0-60 in 4.6 seconds, it breaks sooner than an STI, beats an STI or EVO X GSR on any road course/laptimes with its dual clutch SST transmission. All this performance PLUS better looks PLUS functioning aero kits, PLS leather and heated RECAROs, all leather seats, arm rests, power moonroof, color LCD, a more advanced AWD (S-AWC with yaw control)EVO
fiveironfrenzy1 2 years ago
@fiveironfrenzy1 Where are you from? I'd like to know the dealer so i can get mine in some time lol. evo mr ftw.
chickenpax1 1 year ago
Subaru is so agly now.Thats whay I both a EVO X.AND I LIKE IT SO MUSH
Revolutionlt 2 years ago
Damn the Subie was all over the road haha
BooZeLLed 2 years ago
the new STI styling is sad Extremely ugly I couldn't believe it when I saw it very disappointing styling the older model is much nicer, the Evo in other hand looks better I always liked the Subaru quality and style better but this Subaru is just way too ugly they fucked up the design
FireOFK 3 years ago 2
I thought the same until I saw the Evo X in the flesh and was horribly disappointed. It looks like a slightly angry Volvo. The Impreza is no beauty but, with 18 inch wheels (which should be standard) it has far more attitude and presence. It also deosn't break down every week unlike the, seemingly, poorly built Evo X.
Ali360 2 years ago 10
o no doubt the quality of the Subaru is better than Evo x. I could deal with the Subaru being a hatch but the front end I don't know it reminds of the mazda 3 too much but still the Subaru is better quality car than Evo for sure
FireOFK 2 years ago 2
@Ali360 hey What are you talking about break down every week? I never had my evox break down on me since I got it, and I use it on race also. Maybe you dont know how to use the evo x, or maybe your doing something you wasn't suppose to.
The Evo X is a great car period.
ljcayie 1 year ago
@Ali360 well, then you say that Subaru looks worse than a Volvo because everybody is agree that subaru looks worse than evo.
mishotatishvili 1 year ago
the subaru looks great the new hatch is the new era man its a beauty i dont like the old model but this definitely hot!!
861292 2 years ago
Yes exactally I saw both in the flesh and the STI looks way better to me now. I always had a soft spot for EVO's but dont right the STI off beacuse it looks mean up close go and see for you self especailly from the side and front
Deathrow999 2 years ago 3
seems the subaru has just the same performance but way more style
mrfancypanties 3 years ago
I'll agree the performance on the two are the same but the hatchback looks so gay on the subaru this year.I'll have to say when the evo goes around the turn theirs more drift to it then the sti.
mrcomedy454 3 years ago
Evo rules motherfuckers that the bottom line!
eljabonero13 3 years ago
Look at 1:00 on the vid. STI driver has to use severe lift-off oversteer in order to get the car to slide, then at 1:02 you can see the understeer start to build up.
Whereas with the Evo you can just put it where you want it, how you want it.
revcom301 3 years ago
he doesnt have to do that, he just wants to get it to slide for a long time. whatever, have it where you want it in our evo,but you will still get beat by a subaru. Also that is just subarus pwrc car. put an impreza wrc in there and the evo would get killed. mitsubishi dont even compete in real wrc anymore.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
They don't need to compete anymore, they pwned the competition four years in a row. They got so bored they said "fuck this shit!" and started smoking joints instead.
revcom301 3 years ago
lol. no they stopped because they were getting beat after tommi left. they only won because he was a good driver. 2005 season subaru:95 Mitsubishi :75 and because of financial problems. probably because nobody wants their crappy cars. Subaru pwned the competition 3 years in a row and they dont quit.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
Subaru have never won 3 in a row?
Mitsubishi won four titles in a row though! BADASS
revcom301 3 years ago
Yes subaru have won 3 years in a row dumbass. you are an idiot. also subaru have beaten mitsubishi more in rally.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
Your conversation is going childish. Both are rally cars, and used a lot there. Mitsubishi won 4 in row. To inform you, WRC isnt even close of most powerful class, and its rules doestn allow evos hitech 4wd system whit active differentials. So all evos benefits are disallowed .... Evos are very good rally cars, and very much used in other rally classes, I bet more than subarus.
offfiman 3 years ago
no. even if they used their ayc it still wouldnt beat a subaru in rally. yeah they won 4 in a row and havent won anything since. while subaru won 47 or so rallys since 2005 (2005 because mitsu quit rally after that) mitsu only won about 34 rallys since then.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
A little bit facts on table boy, anyone cant name, how many rallys have been won whit evos, because they are used soo widely, in other serieses too. WRC is just one little piece in the big cake. You dont have any facts.
offfiman 3 years ago
yes they can. they won 34 if i remember correctly. while subaru won 47. they are used in other series, but its not mitsubishi making the cars. its other tuning companies like hks and cusco.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
Subaru Announced they are leaving the WRC LOL
mustangwner2003V6 3 years ago
mitsubishi left in 2005 LOL. subaru only left because it is getting very expensive. they will return in 2010 when wrc parts will cost less.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago 2
At its most basic level:
Understeer - have to enter a corner slower in order for the front to grip, otherwise you'll run wide and loose time. Unless of course you use lift-off oversteer but that can be unpredictable. Dull to drive.
Oversteer - depending upon your skill, can enter a corner several MPH faster, catching the oversteer and enabling a slight powerslide/drift from the apex to the exit of the turn, all in a controlled manner. Fun to drive.
revcom301 3 years ago
you can use understeer to exit the corner faster though. evo has a better corner entry speed, but sti has better exit speed.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago 3
About 4wd techs. There where STI has only active center. Evo has Active rear and cetner, torsen front diff. And in on road models, they have integrated SST-TC and traction control to operate together whit this 4wd system. If you look the TG's test video, you see how big difference is in these 2 cars handling. Evo goes exactly the line you want.
offfiman 3 years ago
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yeah and without all of that it is shit. thats the only way the evo can beat the sti.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
Your discussing skills and arguments are poor, I am not interested to talk about this anymore. You can like and be fan of subaru, I dont care. I am not fanatic of evo or subaru, I am just seeing what benefits both cars have.
offfiman 3 years ago
Then how come the STI was quicker round there track?
XXdriver2000XX 3 years ago
watch the horsepower, its heavier too because of it's twin clutch SST, and stuffs...not like the STI, only active center diff...
kongbingyuan931202 3 years ago
Because they drove the SST not the 5spd lighter more track orientated version you dumbfuck
aznxkaiser 2 years ago
Well then the STI is still quicker, twat head.
XXdriver2000XX 2 years ago 2
If you've seen any race car driver interview, invariably you'll hear them complain about, say, the rear of the car stepping out, the front of the car getting light, uneven front to rear tire wear, or difficult to accelerate out of the corner. These are all manifestation of oversteering or understeering. Except in the sport of drifting, the sole goal of the race engineers and team is to get the car as neutral as possible. And yes, even in WRC. In fact, it should be "especially in WRC."
a555un 3 years ago 2
The Evo handles better, actually has something called OVERSTEER, and was way faster than the STI.
revcom301 3 years ago
Can you give a more contradicting statement than that?
The very definition of having good handling characteristic is having neither understeer or oversteer. So while the STI may understeer a bit, the EVO is just as "bad" but in an oversteering way.
Also, it is a commonly accepted fact that a car that tends to understeer a bit at its limit is faster than a car that tends to oversteer. This is, I believe, what Subaru has tried to achieve in all of its cars.
a555un 3 years ago
"The very definition of having good handling characteristic is having neither understeer or oversteer."
Nope, thats YOUR definition of it.
"Also, it is a commonly accepted fact that a car that tends to understeer a bit at its limit is faster than a car that tends to oversteer."
Facts? Sources? Links? Bullshit?
revcom301 3 years ago
If you've seen any race car driver interview, invariably you'll hear them complain about, say, the rear of the car stepping out, the front of the car getting light, uneven front to rear tire wear, or difficult to accelerate out of the corner. These are all manifestation of oversteering or understeering. Except in the sport of drifting, the sole goal of the race engineers and team is to get the car as neutral as possible. And yes, even in WRC. In fact, it should be "especially in WRC."
a555un 3 years ago
lol. revcom is an idiot. he thinks oh yeahs evo has lots of oversters so its good.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
It is childish to call others "idiot", if they dont agree yours opinion.
offfiman 3 years ago
Also, please, look up the technical definition of oversteering and understeering. These phenomenons are related to the relationship between front and rear tire yaw angles. Any respectable texts and race car dynamics would tell you that. And any respectable race car dynamic text would also tell you that a car with a slight understeer at the limit is faster due to drivers' inability to control a car that tends to oversteer at the limit.
a555un 3 years ago
you can see that the subaru is faster in the corners the evo
RotterdamBradaa 3 years ago
krittmasta > looks like you never tested evo... evo is better controled car than sti, sti has brutal power, steering control, so you need more skils to drive sti the same as evo. but with the same skils evo is better, and more potential. i like the way sti is landing - on all 4, evo 8,9 on front axle, but evo 10 on all 4 wheels. evo YAW control is wonderfull thing. you never thinked why sti is cheaper than evo?
i like impreza (GT) but being objective - evo is more precicious.
apexLT 3 years ago
Sti is better.
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
@sssdfrfwrgr dude, check top gear sti vs evo x. you will who`s boss..lol just check it.
adezababaoo1 1 year ago
@adezababaoo1 I have seen the most recent one, and the sti got a faster lap time. If you like the evo though then that's fine.
sssdfrfwrgr 1 year ago
evo's for LIFE!
elreydavid96 3 years ago
yup. i think people like the STI 'cause it's faster on the straights and it has more pw. STI is heavy and does have more understeer than the Evo.
PeterLikesAsianGirl 3 years ago
it looks like the evo was to big an heavy to get sidewayzzz lol
srt4life07 3 years ago 2
subaru FTW!
sssdfrfwrgr 3 years ago
sti forever
3ddyUS85 3 years ago
GGGgg...
Vodila SUBU nemnogko zatypil, а tak suba rylit
MaTYzalepok 3 years ago
EVO or STI is all personal choice depending on how you drive. I prefer STI though. I just like how it moves and how it has more control than EVO. I think evo has potential, but I hate interior and how the steering is not so honest.
krittmasta 3 years ago 2
hahahaha that sti was harassing the evo the whole time...STI FTW
jygonshen 3 years ago 4
Both evo and sti are great cars, its all personal choice. one isnt better than the other.
subaruofdallas 3 years ago 20
@subaruofdallas Well said little one.
nodozer555 1 year ago
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mitsubisi rules ZScK2 ;P
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ImportRace 3 years ago
Man the Evo is so boring.
iceagetlc 3 years ago