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Ron Paul is an amazing person. Every other politician asks 'what can we do to take away people's rights'. Ron Paul asks 'What can we do to get the rights back to the people. All the other politicians ask 'where can we being war next'. Ron Paul asks 'how soon can we bring the troops home'.
HERE ARE REASONS WHY RON PAUL WILL NEVER BECOME US PRESIDENT;
1) AGE. (TOO OLD TO BE A PRESIDENT OF THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD)
2)DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS( SELLS HIS BOOK AND USES WORDS CONSTITUTION AND LIBERTY), THAT WILL NOT PUT FOOD ON A TABLE FOR AMERICAN PEOPLE
3)DOESNT HAVE A REAL STRATEGY ON EXACTLY HOW HE IS GOING TO CREATE JOBS(OK, LETS SAY WE WILL BRING ALL TROOPS HOME, THEN WHAT?) THEY ARE GOING TO BECOME UNEMPLOYED AND COLECT WELFARE?
Ron Paul would be a very good president if he is not denying the involvement of criminal elements in America’s own ranks with the attacks and consequences of 9 / 11
Ron Paul would be a very good president if he is not denying the involvement of criminal elements in America’s own ranks with the attacks and consequences of 9 / 11
America I beg of You. Look into Ron Paul's issues. This guys is as genuine as they come. Mr. Ron Paul is the American system working, literally handing us the "right guy."
He puts his nation/Constitution first before himself as his 22 year track record indicates.
Please, Mr. Ron Paul for Republican Nomination and then President 2012.
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AMERICANS NEED TO WAKE UP, USA IS HIJACKED BY JEWS. THE MOST POWERFUL LOBBY IS AIPAC, JUST LOOK WHO INSTIGATE THESE UGLY SANCTIONS. NO WONDER ANTISEMITISM IS ON THE RISE WHEN THE LIBELS STEMS FROM ISRAHELL ITSELF! GO IRAN! GO RON PAUL!
@antekification its phrasing like that that makes people hate america. you could have just said the government was highjacked by corporations which it has been. it doesnt matter if theyre white collar or blue collar point is they shouldnt be there because theyre inspiring hatred around the world for america stealing natural resources while trying to push these fake carbon taxes at home. we need to wake up as a society.
@RonPaulBenjaminFrank well regarding US stance on Iran it stems from the AIPAC, we can go back to 1996 when more sanction was added, who pushed for, go figure.
@antekification i just think the iran situation is ridiclous. i mean its our fault that theyre not a democracy because we destoryed that when they wanted control of their own oil fields.
@RonPaulBenjaminFrank True, but the thing is that US arent interested in dialogue, just like the escalation of the Saddam conflict. But it isnt the US that pull the strings but the powerfull jewish lobbies that must be stopped. We dont want another war.
@antekification lol i dont think theyre all jewish. but i completly agree. we need to stop them. ron paul is the man to do it. but i really think he needs to be careful because look what they did to jfk after he told the people about "secret societies"
@RonPaulBenjaminFrank well regarding the politics of the middle east, the jewish lobby is very powerful, most obviously regarding the israel-palestine conflict. I hope those lobby will decay more and more because that strings they pull wont benefit the US.
i want him as president :) i like obama too, he was needed at this time of so much anti-American sentiment and no moral inspiration from politicians. but after obama's done this guy should be president
they are perfectly within their legal rights to run nuclear programs for peaceful purposes? Have you forgotten Rep. Paul, international law means nothing! /sarcasm
I know it's bad to say this but I will say it anyway:
WHY THE HELL DON'T PEOPLE LISTEN HIM? HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS STUPID??? WHY AREN'T IDIOTS WHO VOTE FOR WAR VOTED OUT OF OFFICE??? ARE THE PEOPLE ALSO IDIOTS???
It's in listening to Ron Paul, the only guy in congress who makes sense, that simply makes me want to drop a nuclear bomb on Congress and the White House while Ron Paul is not in there.
@TheBrotherMouzone There are quite a few people that voted for Obama, because he claimed he would get rid of NAFTA, withdraw from Iraq, and all sorts of empty promises. Today, those same people realized that their government is full of lies and decieves them at every turn. Join the local tea parties so we can recycle congress. Our constitutional right.
Notice how he glosses over the big oil. He knows that big oil is pulling all the strings and even he has no logical resolution for it. He will have no choice but to dance to their tune if he is elected. Never hear him talk of alternative forms of energy. He only talks about things that supposedly scare us into believing his garbage. A strict constitutionalist; my ass!! The constitution spoke of slavery as the norm. Representative govt must die!!!! With the WEB the people will govern.
Damn that Ron Paul, using factual evidence to back up reasonable and sensible arguements. When will he learn that a country that has 'I' and 'R' as its first two letters is a serious threat?!
helps cause a global financial crisis. How can our leaders look at something that has a lot to do with our monetary policy and not be absolutely ridden with guilt over what we have done to the world economy? How many people are unemployed, going hungry, getting arrested in Russia for riots, etc. partly because of the government's irresponsible and reckless policies? How can anyone allow the government to do this to people? Some people in our government potentially need to be tried for crimes!
Everyone needs to go out into their communities and leave news reports and things that are going on that the media suppresses by only saying a few times or not at all. People need to know the dollar is hanging by the thread of OPEC and that OPEC is considering dropping the dollar for the oil currency. People need to know the the FDIC stopped making banks pay premiums from 1996-2006 and that Congress voted against even having fees for the insurance. Then look what happens a year later, the US...
I hate to think that the majority of our Congress and Senate is corrupt because I think that is highly pessimistic, but from the things I have been looking at over the past week I am becoming more and more convinced that the people in our government are insistent on destroying the economic stability of this country. How can people listen to Ron Paul, who seems to routinely speak genuine facts, and continue to vote for stupid shit that will hurt this country?!
It is a big pitty that US doesn't lisens to people like M.RON PAUL, please peace & no war, people who want always war, they have never seen the face of war, the face of a child who has lost everything & who askes:WHY????
The US gets people to volunteer for wars now, so the public in general is less likely to be outraged about 10 year wars. If there was a draft like Vietnam you would likely see an even bigger backlash against the government. There seems like there is a huge blowback caused by the Obama administration, I can only hope that many of the Republicans, etc. that get voted into the Senate this year want to help, not take advantage of the current state of things for political gain.
I like ya Ron cuz your your smart with fiscal policy, but you turned out dead wrong on this iran thing. iran has come out and admitted after being caught violating iaea sanctions towards illegally enriching uranium. and as far as energy goes. u only need uranium enriched about 30-40% to generate nuclear power and about 95% for weapons purposes. the problem is that there is no scientific difference between the processes of how uranium is enriched. and with ahmedinejad in charge becomes a problem
..The installation ... had been monitored by the intelligence services of the US and other nations for some time. But it wasn't until Monday that the IAEA found out about its existence, based not on any intelligence "scoop" provided by the US, but rather Iran's own VOLUNTARY DECLARATION (on the 21st of September 2009). Iran's actions forced the hand of the US, leading to Obama's hurried press conference (a few days later)
Scott Ritter - Former UN weapons inspector (Sept 25 2009)
i bet he won't because obama has hs own globalist/world empire agenda. he wants to continue warmongering. he injected 10 billion $ for arms and men in columbia to stand on the doorstep of venezuela. and they havent even declared open war on iran. most american govt officials are crazy.. just crazy. nutcases. there are no other words. just plein warmongering globalist nutcase crooks who killed a few thousand on 9/11 and even more of your men and women to fight their war in irak.. just crazy. sick
I'd love to talk to Ron off the record, if this is how honest he can be on-record he'd be amazing if he didn't need to risk being called a sloganeering nutter by the guys responsible for the world being so fucked up
Because USA have WMD bacause they can run abbu Garib, Guentanamo bay etc.
The people of USA think they become GOD and almost everybody can keep GUN and they can do what even they want, other part of the world can feel it, USA never fight with neighbor country like CUBA, Venejuala but they created problem in Middle east, Europe , Sounth Asia and the country which is other part of Atlantic Sea, very far from America.
mstical princess your right about me mistakingly lumping you all together ..there might be 10 people who have thier eyes and mind open too reality...but most are still slapping themselves on the back for these horrible things ...stop dictating to the world we have had enough the U.S. has run out of friends
If you have no idea what MOST Americans want...you really shouldn't talk. If you didn't like our previous leaders....take it up with them. We The People shouldn't pay for that.
americans afraid of your own shadows...scared shitless of every tiny backwoods dictator with a shitty primative missle why so afraid.... collective guilty conseince..you should have..after all the horribile crimes against humanity you have done..from the time you arrived on the continent you starved slaugterd murdered the red man to steal what they had..enslaved,beat raped,murderd the black man...the only country to use atomic weapons and to use them on innocent women,children,old people die US
Thruthiness...don't lump all Americans together. Some of us...MANY of us want peace. That is why many of us are turning into Ron Paul Republicans because we truly believe his diplomatic philosophies are the right thing to do. Don't hate us all...or you are doing exactly what you accuse us of. ;)
I understand that lot of bad things happened to natives, but instead of living peacefully, once its power and supremacy had been established, then they turned their ambitions to conquer the world, instead of living in peace with it.
Wow, a Republican standing for what they used to. He's a proper Liberal. No war. More Freedom. Republicans on the whole are terrible, and Democrats aren't much better.
You have no idea what you're talking about....Ron Paul has been recognized as the most conservative member of congress for the last 10 years. Democrats have always thrived on war...you must NEVER have picked up a history book and get all your info from the entertainment based media.
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Americans are not idiots if it were not for the U.S your entire world would be different for the worst Hitler would more than likely have remained a murderous dictator for quite some time there would be nuclear missiles in cuba with the capability to hurt EVERYONE in the region and Iran more than likely would already be nuclear and probably would dominate that region once again putting EVERYONE in danger
you guys arnt angels either. Your slowly ocupy all of the middle east, and have killed too many to count, based on false inteligence, OH - is there a coincidence iraq happens to have oil too? What about iran? oh ya, they have oil too, not too mention US's close ties to saudi arabia who also has mass oil resreves....hmmmm you may not be as outward as hitler but i think its clear what the US does is for its own interets and not others as it claims...
nicely said man, and its not only about oil, look at how strategic Iraq is... you can quickly militarily deploy to Russia, Asia, Europe and Africa within hours. Its all strategic as well and that is a huge danger, the US is imperialist and Iraq is just another move to militarily control more parts of the world
Oil prices go up with the Iraq war and a unstable middle east, but oil companies make more money this way. Defense contractors had even more to gain oil companies. Politicians get massive campaign contributions from defense contractors and oil companies and hence do their bidding. Unites States of America? More like United States of corporations.
I gotta agree as you, the phenomenon known as "Americans" (which I'm part of) has been sheep led to the slaughter. This system is doomed for failure. It doesn't matter about the mistakes that led up to the failure. All that matters is when the opportunity for the reset button comes, we gotta press it. Deal with the hardships, work together, and come out new.
America is cancer of our planet. Coz its ruled by stupid Yankees. They cant solve problems, they just replace problems. Gogogo America , dig ur own grave.
Thats ur problem, u think u are best, meanwhile u got very low IQ population. Go search before u start talking. Did u know that Ntherlands is on top countries on discovering new technology in whole world? Did u know that worlds most fair court of justice is in Netherland? i can go on like this forever. America has only money power, which is stolen or token away by power.
Slavery came from Yankees and they still use EXACTLY SAME tactic to gain power.
U have to help ur self lol. U are the one in deep sht, and u created it all by ur self. I would even say u earned that shit.
U use like 80% of world resources, fuk own ppls minds with that entertaining brainwash and iluminati crap, 90% of world conflicts caused by US, dunking chemicals in Africa and depopulating continent ( dun forget diamonds there ). But we forgot one thing, how fuking greedy and close minded u all are. Im sure that most of americans think that they rule the world LOL.
not all americans are idiots. why do u think we are watching this video? we see whats going on and out generation will reverse what the current government is fucking up. hopefully we legalize weed soon too
my message was not about to offend Americans, im not getting anything from it. I hope my critic arguments will open some minds ;). And i personally wish that america will stand up on right feet. Letting Russia in nato is one of steps (what already happen few days ago.) U have to break down the old to build up the new.
hmmm, I think NATO shouldn't even exist, its just a remnant and the US gets a lot of leeway if you say "NATO will intervene" vs. saying "the US will intervene" in a conflict, its another tool of military expansion in the part of the US
haha get your head out ofyour ass,obama is a zionist puppet.if it wasnt for his support for zionism he would have been the guy selling bread around the corner street.all us politicians except this guy are zionist fuckers!!
"Libertarians are the worst brand of rightist. Their idea of freedom is the market. A market for freedom means that only those who can afford it are truly free. Libertarians are the new ultra-right hidden in the alluring prose of democracy. But it is a democracy few can afford. It is the libertarian camp that wants all of our public assets destroyed, they are the radical privatizers who carry on the Neocon mantra while denying it. Those who believe govt doesnt work have no reason to be in it."
Yes, that is how i see the average libertarian voter too. But libertarian politicians are different. They are indeed trying to build a democracy up on a completely free market, while destroying our public assets. The intentions of libertarian politicians are evil think, the average normal guy-libertarian is just misled however, i think.
This all ofcourse, depends on what one view as a free society. To me, a socialist dictatorship is an ideal free society. It repress something, but allow others
Well, there are two inherent flaws with a centralized, "socialist" system.
1. It cannot adapt the way the market can. There is a literal physical laws called "emergence" or "sync" which means that individuals create order by their actions. From the bottom up, not the top down.
2. It's much easier to seize and corrupt a centralized system, than a diffuse one.
Ultimately, I would rather own things privately because I can put them to moral use whereas the government uses my money to kill people.
1. In an ideal world it wouldn't have a need to adapt, because in that world the whole world would be communist (my ideal world ofcourse).
2. I disagree on this one, while a planned economy is indeed easy to corrupt, a 'free' market is just as corruptable.
Lets take the USA, the government is more or less owned by the companies, and their interests. They only have profit at heart, in a socialist economy people would consider other things than profit. Especially the government.
So you are pro lassiez-faire?. Anarcho capitalist?.
A totally free market has never been benificial to anyone. There are MAJOR flaws in this system that causes poverty, disease, mass murder, exploitation and so on.
Guf...excuse me? I am not an anarcho nor am I a PLF...I am a PROUD Ron Paul Repubican. And not sure your post makes sense....you talk about a free market not being beneficial to anyone but then you talk about lunatic liberals. What the???? lol. Me thinks someone has been drinking tonight..lol
2/2, the major problem with this is. Private companies but nothing to moral use. The US government install facist dictatorships around the world, killing millions so their companies may exploit its resources at a cheap labour price. The modern day 'democratic' government may doesn't kill in the name of communism (as the soviets did) they kill in the name of profit. And to be honest, i'd go with killing for communism anyday instead.
Educated foreigners (from capitalist countries) instructed the labor (which was alot of unpaid slave labor) by prisoners, some merely politicial produced alot of the output. Anyway, industry is to thank for anything good, not the ideology of communism because it was abhorrent and did not fulfill anything close to it's ideological value you percieved.
Ouh, but heres what they don't tell in the history books our children are indoctrinated with: When Khruschev came to power, just after Stalin he began a 'de-stalinisation' of the country. He purged it of Stalin, and moved him away from the Lenin mousaleum. He released thousands og Kulaks, and let people write books critisizing communism. Here started work on the infrastructure, largely done by young idealistic communists, eager to help their country.(and this is the factual version actually)
I did read that in the history I studied in year 12 in my books (Australia). I think that is pretty poor if you weren't allowed to know these things. However, there was no special wealth created from this system during this time. It is only the wealth generated from slavery that came from Stalin and then the destalinisation period didn't have anywhere near the production of somewhere like American instrustrialisation.
So first you critizise Stalin for being a mass murderer, and then you critizise Khruschev for not being as effective as Stalin.. Great.
By the way i never said that you weren't allowed to know these things in the west, my point is they don't write it in the history books they give our children.
But yet the fact remains, Soviet Economy was gaining on the american untill the 1970's. (in 1970 the average east german was actually richer than the average british, this is undenieable fact look itup
I stated it clearly enough that even you could follow. Industry created the boom, and horrible things took place at the time to allow this. After that there wasn't anything communist theology gained in any sort of satisfactory way to support your claims of it being this success story against capitalist countries.
Also you now compare Britain (which was absolutely decimated by WWII bombings by Nazis'and had massive war debt to be paid off). I'm a little bored by your cherry picking facts.
Haha, so Britain was bombed?.. Are you claiming Britain was more bombed than germany?. Germany had been much more bombed than any of Britain, West Germany had all of the western world to back it up economically. East germany only had the Soviet Union, and yet east germany managed to have a population richer than Britain.
"According to East German statistics, in 1985 there were about 176,800 private entrepreneurs, an increase of about 500 over 1984."
I didn't know much about East Germany so I just did a quick fact check whether communist Germany (your new choice of comparison) was a success. Turns out it isn't even real communism, it's selective just like you are.. gotta admire that.
I'm not sure if your agenda is against NWO and you are against the corporations instead of trying to prove an invalid point.
"(your new choice of comparison)" If you wanna discuss then discuss, if you wanna play an arrogant then find someone else.
Critizising others on the way they write their posts, or build up their arguments (as you do) is a common technique, used by people with no real knowledge of the subject discussed whatsoever.
Go play cool some other place, i have no more time left for 'people' like you.
During Stalin's reign he implemented Agrarian policies which lead to millions of deaths of citizens who starved in famines. The stalin trials for wiping out his opposition were in no way fair either, the trials were secret and he established his own dictatorship.
There was massive political unrest and rioting. The wealth was stolen from the Kulaks just as Nazi's stole it from the jews to redistribute as well as limiting consumption and redirecting all output back to investment into industry.
You've just made the most common mistake when trying to prove communism wrong. You've started talking about Stalin. I don't recall myself ever saying anything good about Stalin, so i don't really get why you talk about him.
By the way the number of deaths caused by Stalin is something historians have a hard time agreeing on. It could be a few hundred thousand, it could even only be 70.000. But it could also be millions. Its hard to say.
because the jews dont like iran, and their slave america has to kill innocents and provoke hate against their own people, because they must obey the jews. america is a zionist puppet this is clear.
I hope governments start severely reducing their dependence on the US. isolated economic blocks should be created that have little to do with outside economies. the US economy is gonna collapse sooner or later and the part the jews played in it wont be small
I'm a foreigner and i'm not a capitalist pro-free market guy (rather on the far left), but I realize that free capitalism is a lot better than corporate thuggery (corporations in bed with gvmt). And I realize this man has real principles, he's not out to benefit his friends in big corporations. He also realize that money needs real value and you can't build a nation on debt. If you take a loan, you have to pay back, or bad things come to you, this is so basic a 6-year old understand it.
how the fuck was he not president i mean isnt d point of a president to tell the people the exact truth even if they dont like it i mean do u really think president obama or even mcain would tell you the american people the exact truth i guess not and yh i am black incase you are wondering
I think the burden of proof would be on the communists for this one. It's been a total failure in every way in every country it's been implemented in. It usually has the opposite effects it was intended to: greater disparity between rich and poor, horrible human rights violations, totalitarianism, atrocious economic conditions, destroyed environments, etc. etc. I think the question should be: How does communism WORK, because the evidence is certainly stacked against it.
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What were starting values of the currencies, what trading came into play, wars, environmental influences, what about resource availability, what about research and health care and other services are they available? Your monetary comparison does not even reflect true wealth, currencies always deflate and inflate for economic reasons.
oh my god, try to at least hide alittle of your biased liberal views away.
The currencies was a picture of the larger economic situation of the two nations, when comparing them. If you didn't realize that, well then im just suprised.
I thought this was common knowledge, but since ur asking, The Soviet Union had: Free healthcare, free houses/apartments provided by the government, proper healthcare etc. Like any proper socialist nation. Its the basics of socialism/communism.
I studied Russian history during the era you're talking about and the quality of life in Russia was shocking. I think you need to dig a little deeper into your research as the population was extremely poor, struggled for survival and had lives the equivelant of slaves to initiate the industrial revolution. This was off the back of having a Tsar in power who did not take care of the people and let the country fall into ruin so by relation you'd expect life to improve with any reasonable system.
it does not factor in human nature. Human greed fucks it up. In an idal world where people would work selflessly to distribute all things equally it would b the greatest political system next to anarchism. But a black market alway emerges and human greed and want for more money, power, ect always ruins it. But im not an expert, i can b wrong, just my view on the matter.
This is not the case, we see communism (or at least a strong socialism) is working in Cuba, its working in Venezuela and it worked in the Soviet Union. It may not work in North Korea, i know too little about it. And the Medias are too biased.
some say that communism doesn't work, and take Stalin as an example. Thats basically like saying capitalism doesn't work, and take Hitler as an example.
Instead of me lecturing you on the multiple reasons why it fails, just read work written by the famous austrian economist Ludwig von Mises. He should be able to convince you.
Ron Paul is one of the good guys. He believes in the constitution!! maybe if more so called republicans would stand up for the constitution we'd not be in the mess we are in. You obviously agree with the bush doctrine, so just fuck off!!
I reckon fuck Iran they are violating there citizens human rights. Hagging 14yo boys in the street whipping boys to death they are a terrorist dictatorship. I think other countries should place sanctions of some sort to make them behave in a more civilized manner.
Yeah we should put sanctions on them so that all of the innocent people living there will die (sarcasm). You can't go around the world telling other people how to live with the threat of attacking them.
Its a democracy. Even if these things you say happen and they dont happen, its the people who elected and if they dont want these things to happen they can vote for someone else. Dont let Bush full you, the dont have dictatorship.
The constitution and international law prohibits ANYONE to go to war except in SELF DEFENSE. Iran did not attack the US or anybody else. The invasion of Iraq was illegal so is the invasion of Iran. Jesus wouln't invade and niether would I.
I think we should always leave an open door for diplomacy. We should also make it clear that any direct attack against us by them, or through a surrogate will be considered an act of war. But always leave the door for diplomacy open. Russia was "the evil empire." They had 50,000 nuclear weapons. They wanted to annihilate America. We still kept diplomatic channels open to them. Why not Iran?
Mossedegh was democratically elected. We overthrew his government, period. We overthrew his government because he nationalized Iran's oil and we want control of it and its trade. Eventually he was overthrown and the AyaTOILET took Americans hostage for over 400 days. BLOWBACK for our interference in their affairs. We support Iraq's war against Iran. We include Iran in the axis of evil, threaten them with war, put 300,000 troops on their border and wonder why they might want a nuclear bomb?
fraizer57 - First off, I don't know if I can trust a source that calls its opponents terrorists and thugs just because of your opinion on this issue. What diplomacy for the last 30 years are you talking about? the support of Europe and US for Saddam Hussein to kill as many Iranians as possible!!! By direct democracy, I mean go and sit with them and see what they are seeking, how else would you go around this problem? They do not respond to sanctions as we have seen. What do YOU say we do?
fraizer57, why do you think that Iran captured American hostages in the 1970's or attacked American soldiers in 1983? Possibly, it's because in 1953 the US-backed CIA removed a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED ruler from office and put a dictator in his place? They don't hate us because we're free or powerful. They hate us because we have a foreign policy of interventionism. These are alot of large words. Simply put: if we leave them the fuck alone, they will do the same for us. Feel free to reply.
thunt1294, Mosadegh was not democratic & far from it. History is written by the victors. In oprder to appease the Mullahs the west has totaly misrepresented the event of 1959. A reigning King does not need a staged coup since he is already in power unless there is a coup against him.What happened than was a coup by Mosadegh on Aug 15th.Mosadegh disobayed king's constitutional dicree. 2 days later the people, Mullahs, Bazaries & the army staged a counter coup. American did not have time to do it.
thunt1294, The Shah of Iran was not a dictator unless you want to believe the Mullahs,the terrorist leftists & the western far left liberal Media.The Shah twice pardoned his would be assasins.Regan while still governor of CA said in July 80:"What we did to the Shah was a black page in the history of America".William Shawcross the Shah's biographer said:"What puzzeled him was why the shah's regime was represented as the worst when it was actually the best in the reagon".Do not beleave the media.
You can't claim that Shah was not a dictator and that the US did the right thing by intervening in this matter. In fact, Shah was such a bad dictator that got overthrown after a couple of years and people were desperate for a different regime and democracy that they had no choice, but accepting the current regime, but that's just history and cannot be changed nor could it be undone. What Iran least needs right now is a regime change. The solution to Iran is primarily direct diplomacy, right now.
turbomzi, Are you for real? direct diplomacy with the thugs, terrorists & murderers? As if there has not been any diplomacy withem why Europe & USA directly or indirectly in past 30 years? As for the Shah, You are either misinformed or taken in by the BBC, far left liberal media & the Mullahs propoganda system. What happened in Iran was a very well orchestrated conspiracy by Carter & the Brits to turn the clock back on Iran. Read Hostage to Khomeini by Robert Dreyfuss or be fooled for ever.
Ron Paul should be renamed Ron Foooool. With stupid friends like this ass hole does America need other enemies? Iranian terrorist regime had declared war on America as far back as 1983, when they sent suicide bomers to kill over 200 innocent US army men in Lebanon. Everyone knows that the fucking killer Mullahs are building bombs even. Like many Democrats, this fucking jerk Ron Fool is on the pay role of the Iranian Mullahs. Shame that he is a republican. He needs his brain tested if he has any.
Cheers to you phrek 57, Thugs like Ron Fool, Ted Kennedy, Joe Ben-Biden, Black Houssein Osama & Jimmy Carter have never stopped supporting the killer Mullahs. These fuckers truly became the spokesmen of the Muslims & the barbaric regime in Iran. Jimmy Carter is the father of the Iranian revolution. He threw the Americas best ally under bus & sold Iran to the anti-American Mullahs. They turned the clock back in
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ronpaul2012hope 1 week ago
Ron Paul is an amazing person. Every other politician asks 'what can we do to take away people's rights'. Ron Paul asks 'What can we do to get the rights back to the people. All the other politicians ask 'where can we being war next'. Ron Paul asks 'how soon can we bring the troops home'.
When will people wake up and elect this man?
BrettN2011 3 weeks ago
that was an amazing speech - no prompter, no rhetoric - just straight from the heart TRUTH.
kappy0405 2 months ago
Ron Psul knows what the dirty bankers ,corporations Corruption from the politicians on and on.NWO IS THE REAL PLAN!!! ..
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HERE ARE REASONS WHY RON PAUL WILL NEVER BECOME US PRESIDENT;
1) AGE. (TOO OLD TO BE A PRESIDENT OF THE MOST POWERFUL COUNTRY IN THE WORLD)
2)DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS( SELLS HIS BOOK AND USES WORDS CONSTITUTION AND LIBERTY), THAT WILL NOT PUT FOOD ON A TABLE FOR AMERICAN PEOPLE
3)DOESNT HAVE A REAL STRATEGY ON EXACTLY HOW HE IS GOING TO CREATE JOBS(OK, LETS SAY WE WILL BRING ALL TROOPS HOME, THEN WHAT?) THEY ARE GOING TO BECOME UNEMPLOYED AND COLECT WELFARE?
4) UNDERESTIMATES CHINESE POPULATION
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Ron Paul would be a very good president if he is not denying the involvement of criminal elements in America’s own ranks with the attacks and consequences of 9 / 11
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Ron Paul would be a very good president if he is not denying the involvement of criminal elements in America’s own ranks with the attacks and consequences of 9 / 11
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If I may, please;
America I beg of You. Look into Ron Paul's issues. This guys is as genuine as they come. Mr. Ron Paul is the American system working, literally handing us the "right guy."
He puts his nation/Constitution first before himself as his 22 year track record indicates.
Please, Mr. Ron Paul for Republican Nomination and then President 2012.
Thank You
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The government kills good people like that, hope it doesn't happen to him
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fieldman07 1 year ago
AMERICANS NEED TO WAKE UP, USA IS HIJACKED BY JEWS. THE MOST POWERFUL LOBBY IS AIPAC, JUST LOOK WHO INSTIGATE THESE UGLY SANCTIONS. NO WONDER ANTISEMITISM IS ON THE RISE WHEN THE LIBELS STEMS FROM ISRAHELL ITSELF! GO IRAN! GO RON PAUL!
antekification 1 year ago
@antekification its phrasing like that that makes people hate america. you could have just said the government was highjacked by corporations which it has been. it doesnt matter if theyre white collar or blue collar point is they shouldnt be there because theyre inspiring hatred around the world for america stealing natural resources while trying to push these fake carbon taxes at home. we need to wake up as a society.
RonPaulBenjaminFrank 1 year ago
@RonPaulBenjaminFrank well regarding US stance on Iran it stems from the AIPAC, we can go back to 1996 when more sanction was added, who pushed for, go figure.
antekification 1 year ago
@antekification i just think the iran situation is ridiclous. i mean its our fault that theyre not a democracy because we destoryed that when they wanted control of their own oil fields.
RonPaulBenjaminFrank 1 year ago
@RonPaulBenjaminFrank True, but the thing is that US arent interested in dialogue, just like the escalation of the Saddam conflict. But it isnt the US that pull the strings but the powerfull jewish lobbies that must be stopped. We dont want another war.
antekification 1 year ago
@antekification lol i dont think theyre all jewish. but i completly agree. we need to stop them. ron paul is the man to do it. but i really think he needs to be careful because look what they did to jfk after he told the people about "secret societies"
RonPaulBenjaminFrank 1 year ago
@RonPaulBenjaminFrank well regarding the politics of the middle east, the jewish lobby is very powerful, most obviously regarding the israel-palestine conflict. I hope those lobby will decay more and more because that strings they pull wont benefit the US.
antekification 1 year ago
Why did Brad Sherman vote for Sanctions on Iran?
CANNaBISnow 1 year ago
All The Bee's are dieying because of amount of gin manipulated plants in the nature.... Weak up before its to late.....
LetsFri 1 year ago
ron paul you have my vote in 2012
shqiptari6 1 year ago 3
i want him as president :) i like obama too, he was needed at this time of so much anti-American sentiment and no moral inspiration from politicians. but after obama's done this guy should be president
dbsl87 1 year ago
Beautiful speech! Listening to an objective mind is always enjoyable.
Franny5879 1 year ago
they are perfectly within their legal rights to run nuclear programs for peaceful purposes? Have you forgotten Rep. Paul, international law means nothing! /sarcasm
Unclesamslair 1 year ago
What would happen if we lifted sanctions against Iran and left them alone? How will they be able to hurt us?
fudgedogbannana 1 year ago
I know it's bad to say this but I will say it anyway:
WHY THE HELL DON'T PEOPLE LISTEN HIM? HOW CAN PEOPLE BE THIS STUPID??? WHY AREN'T IDIOTS WHO VOTE FOR WAR VOTED OUT OF OFFICE??? ARE THE PEOPLE ALSO IDIOTS???
It's in listening to Ron Paul, the only guy in congress who makes sense, that simply makes me want to drop a nuclear bomb on Congress and the White House while Ron Paul is not in there.
TheBrotherMouzone 1 year ago
@TheBrotherMouzone There are quite a few people that voted for Obama, because he claimed he would get rid of NAFTA, withdraw from Iraq, and all sorts of empty promises. Today, those same people realized that their government is full of lies and decieves them at every turn. Join the local tea parties so we can recycle congress. Our constitutional right.
SuperFifthwheel 1 year ago
Notice how he glosses over the big oil. He knows that big oil is pulling all the strings and even he has no logical resolution for it. He will have no choice but to dance to their tune if he is elected. Never hear him talk of alternative forms of energy. He only talks about things that supposedly scare us into believing his garbage. A strict constitutionalist; my ass!! The constitution spoke of slavery as the norm. Representative govt must die!!!! With the WEB the people will govern.
ExtremeRecluse 1 year ago
Damn that Ron Paul, using factual evidence to back up reasonable and sensible arguements. When will he learn that a country that has 'I' and 'R' as its first two letters is a serious threat?!
TenTonHorse 1 year ago 3
helps cause a global financial crisis. How can our leaders look at something that has a lot to do with our monetary policy and not be absolutely ridden with guilt over what we have done to the world economy? How many people are unemployed, going hungry, getting arrested in Russia for riots, etc. partly because of the government's irresponsible and reckless policies? How can anyone allow the government to do this to people? Some people in our government potentially need to be tried for crimes!
wookieeassassin 1 year ago
Everyone needs to go out into their communities and leave news reports and things that are going on that the media suppresses by only saying a few times or not at all. People need to know the dollar is hanging by the thread of OPEC and that OPEC is considering dropping the dollar for the oil currency. People need to know the the FDIC stopped making banks pay premiums from 1996-2006 and that Congress voted against even having fees for the insurance. Then look what happens a year later, the US...
wookieeassassin 1 year ago
I hate to think that the majority of our Congress and Senate is corrupt because I think that is highly pessimistic, but from the things I have been looking at over the past week I am becoming more and more convinced that the people in our government are insistent on destroying the economic stability of this country. How can people listen to Ron Paul, who seems to routinely speak genuine facts, and continue to vote for stupid shit that will hurt this country?!
wookieeassassin 1 year ago
ron paul is a beast O_O
Diazt3r 2 years ago 3
ron paul is a g
WinkyMaeve 2 years ago
Wanna see the real terrorists: /watch?v=UeY05iS5iv0
hmspervasive 2 years ago
It is a big pitty that US doesn't lisens to people like M.RON PAUL, please peace & no war, people who want always war, they have never seen the face of war, the face of a child who has lost everything & who askes:WHY????
Dariushparis 2 years ago
The US gets people to volunteer for wars now, so the public in general is less likely to be outraged about 10 year wars. If there was a draft like Vietnam you would likely see an even bigger backlash against the government. There seems like there is a huge blowback caused by the Obama administration, I can only hope that many of the Republicans, etc. that get voted into the Senate this year want to help, not take advantage of the current state of things for political gain.
wookieeassassin 1 year ago
I love you Ron Paul.
westninthavenue 2 years ago 7
I like ya Ron cuz your your smart with fiscal policy, but you turned out dead wrong on this iran thing. iran has come out and admitted after being caught violating iaea sanctions towards illegally enriching uranium. and as far as energy goes. u only need uranium enriched about 30-40% to generate nuclear power and about 95% for weapons purposes. the problem is that there is no scientific difference between the processes of how uranium is enriched. and with ahmedinejad in charge becomes a problem
headslo 2 years ago
..The installation ... had been monitored by the intelligence services of the US and other nations for some time. But it wasn't until Monday that the IAEA found out about its existence, based not on any intelligence "scoop" provided by the US, but rather Iran's own VOLUNTARY DECLARATION (on the 21st of September 2009). Iran's actions forced the hand of the US, leading to Obama's hurried press conference (a few days later)
Scott Ritter - Former UN weapons inspector (Sept 25 2009)
MajNorberg 2 years ago
Its always good to hear Ron Paul talk about how the world REALLY works! This guy is just Yoda when it comes to economics and foreign policy.
truevoice08 2 years ago
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Obama listen to Rahm Emanuael
Kite208 2 years ago
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ogello 2 years ago
i bet he won't because obama has hs own globalist/world empire agenda. he wants to continue warmongering. he injected 10 billion $ for arms and men in columbia to stand on the doorstep of venezuela. and they havent even declared open war on iran. most american govt officials are crazy.. just crazy. nutcases. there are no other words. just plein warmongering globalist nutcase crooks who killed a few thousand on 9/11 and even more of your men and women to fight their war in irak.. just crazy. sick
LemonAndYoghurt 2 years ago
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ron now in July - you were wrong about negotiations, you were wrong about elected official.
you were wrong about the swine flu.
I hope you wont be wrong about the danger involved!
toknow07 2 years ago
what the hell are you talking about?
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ron paul should be president.
bananian 2 years ago 4
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academiccuriosity 2 years ago
Who is John Galt?
penexpers 2 years ago
Ron Paul should be the President
tehreekeinsaaf 2 years ago 56
@tehreekeinsaaf
Yeah sure..., but those satanic Illuminati people (beasts) are not going to allow him...!!
myway12345 1 year ago
Who is John Galt?
ent257 2 years ago
I'd love to talk to Ron off the record, if this is how honest he can be on-record he'd be amazing if he didn't need to risk being called a sloganeering nutter by the guys responsible for the world being so fucked up
gavbag1234 2 years ago 12
I hear ya!
Crackmandan 2 years ago 4
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lekft 2 years ago
Ron Paul! Respect.. Its good you are not a president, because you would face the same 'end' as JFK.. One honest, true politician.
boobitti 2 years ago 12
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Because USA have WMD bacause they can run abbu Garib, Guentanamo bay etc.
The people of USA think they become GOD and almost everybody can keep GUN and they can do what even they want, other part of the world can feel it, USA never fight with neighbor country like CUBA, Venejuala but they created problem in Middle east, Europe , Sounth Asia and the country which is other part of Atlantic Sea, very far from America.
MonsterIsrael 2 years ago 3
mstical princess your right about me mistakingly lumping you all together ..there might be 10 people who have thier eyes and mind open too reality...but most are still slapping themselves on the back for these horrible things ...stop dictating to the world we have had enough the U.S. has run out of friends
Truthiness63 2 years ago 4
Truth...lol. If you say so. *eyeroll*
If you have no idea what MOST Americans want...you really shouldn't talk. If you didn't like our previous leaders....take it up with them. We The People shouldn't pay for that.
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago
where are you from truth?
forlife01 2 years ago
so true truthesness63
DragonBallZFanGirl 2 years ago
americans afraid of your own shadows...scared shitless of every tiny backwoods dictator with a shitty primative missle why so afraid.... collective guilty conseince..you should have..after all the horribile crimes against humanity you have done..from the time you arrived on the continent you starved slaugterd murdered the red man to steal what they had..enslaved,beat raped,murderd the black man...the only country to use atomic weapons and to use them on innocent women,children,old people die US
Truthiness63 2 years ago 3
Thruthiness...don't lump all Americans together. Some of us...MANY of us want peace. That is why many of us are turning into Ron Paul Republicans because we truly believe his diplomatic philosophies are the right thing to do. Don't hate us all...or you are doing exactly what you accuse us of. ;)
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago 4
I understand that lot of bad things happened to natives, but instead of living peacefully, once its power and supremacy had been established, then they turned their ambitions to conquer the world, instead of living in peace with it.
IronManu77 2 years ago 2
Wow, a Republican standing for what they used to. He's a proper Liberal. No war. More Freedom. Republicans on the whole are terrible, and Democrats aren't much better.
chazmeistro 2 years ago 4
Liberal? Dr Paul?? NEVER.
He is what TRUE Republicans should be.
And therefore...who should have been president.
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago 2
You have no idea what you're talking about....Ron Paul has been recognized as the most conservative member of congress for the last 10 years. Democrats have always thrived on war...you must NEVER have picked up a history book and get all your info from the entertainment based media.
tejanissimo 2 years ago 4
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Americans are not idiots if it were not for the U.S your entire world would be different for the worst Hitler would more than likely have remained a murderous dictator for quite some time there would be nuclear missiles in cuba with the capability to hurt EVERYONE in the region and Iran more than likely would already be nuclear and probably would dominate that region once again putting EVERYONE in danger
muchprogress 2 years ago
you guys arnt angels either. Your slowly ocupy all of the middle east, and have killed too many to count, based on false inteligence, OH - is there a coincidence iraq happens to have oil too? What about iran? oh ya, they have oil too, not too mention US's close ties to saudi arabia who also has mass oil resreves....hmmmm you may not be as outward as hitler but i think its clear what the US does is for its own interets and not others as it claims...
ilmgwamh 2 years ago 5
nicely said man, and its not only about oil, look at how strategic Iraq is... you can quickly militarily deploy to Russia, Asia, Europe and Africa within hours. Its all strategic as well and that is a huge danger, the US is imperialist and Iraq is just another move to militarily control more parts of the world
scor3gazm 2 years ago 5
scor...I agree. NATO should not even exist.
We NEED Dr Paul in the White House in 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago 4
Oil prices go up with the Iraq war and a unstable middle east, but oil companies make more money this way. Defense contractors had even more to gain oil companies. Politicians get massive campaign contributions from defense contractors and oil companies and hence do their bidding. Unites States of America? More like United States of corporations.
InfiniteUniverse88 2 years ago 9
I gotta agree as you, the phenomenon known as "Americans" (which I'm part of) has been sheep led to the slaughter. This system is doomed for failure. It doesn't matter about the mistakes that led up to the failure. All that matters is when the opportunity for the reset button comes, we gotta press it. Deal with the hardships, work together, and come out new.
TsurugiOni 2 years ago
America is cancer of our planet. Coz its ruled by stupid Yankees. They cant solve problems, they just replace problems. Gogogo America , dig ur own grave.
Haik0 2 years ago
why doesnt your country do anything about it?
nunurox 2 years ago
Thats ur problem, u think u are best, meanwhile u got very low IQ population. Go search before u start talking. Did u know that Ntherlands is on top countries on discovering new technology in whole world? Did u know that worlds most fair court of justice is in Netherland? i can go on like this forever. America has only money power, which is stolen or token away by power.
Slavery came from Yankees and they still use EXACTLY SAME tactic to gain power.
Haik0 2 years ago
no one likes you shut up
nunurox 2 years ago
U have to help ur self lol. U are the one in deep sht, and u created it all by ur self. I would even say u earned that shit.
U use like 80% of world resources, fuk own ppls minds with that entertaining brainwash and iluminati crap, 90% of world conflicts caused by US, dunking chemicals in Africa and depopulating continent ( dun forget diamonds there ). But we forgot one thing, how fuking greedy and close minded u all are. Im sure that most of americans think that they rule the world LOL.
Haik0 2 years ago
im only a teen you fist fuck how can you blame me i cant even vote
nunurox 2 years ago
lol dude , im not blaming YOU personally. Just open up ur mind, see whats going on around you. Coz they want us to live like sheep's.
Haik0 2 years ago
you dont kno me.... i hate the gov. when bush ruled i hate it still i wanted ron paul!!!! WHY DO U TIHNK IM WATCHING THIS!
nunurox 2 years ago
if the netherlands didnt have weed legal it would be the shithole of the planet
nunurox 2 years ago
not all americans are idiots. why do u think we are watching this video? we see whats going on and out generation will reverse what the current government is fucking up. hopefully we legalize weed soon too
stevenperry209 2 years ago
my message was not about to offend Americans, im not getting anything from it. I hope my critic arguments will open some minds ;). And i personally wish that america will stand up on right feet. Letting Russia in nato is one of steps (what already happen few days ago.) U have to break down the old to build up the new.
Haik0 2 years ago
hmmm, I think NATO shouldn't even exist, its just a remnant and the US gets a lot of leeway if you say "NATO will intervene" vs. saying "the US will intervene" in a conflict, its another tool of military expansion in the part of the US
scor3gazm 2 years ago 4
at least someone is informed and by they u mean the illuminati right?
Airportris 2 years ago
don't forget Woody Allen.
Hawbawbowba 3 years ago
the grabbing hands grab all they can....everything counts in large amounts its a competitive world!!!!
gorbell68 3 years ago
haha get your head out ofyour ass,obama is a zionist puppet.if it wasnt for his support for zionism he would have been the guy selling bread around the corner street.all us politicians except this guy are zionist fuckers!!
sshapewa 3 years ago
You are going to be terribly disappointed in you supporting Obama. It is never too late to as forgiveness.
jimmyjoe1975 3 years ago
RON PAUL...if only people listened to what he had to say and now the banks want more money..so that means printing more money!!
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mbear14 3 years ago
"Libertarians are the worst brand of rightist. Their idea of freedom is the market. A market for freedom means that only those who can afford it are truly free. Libertarians are the new ultra-right hidden in the alluring prose of democracy. But it is a democracy few can afford. It is the libertarian camp that wants all of our public assets destroyed, they are the radical privatizers who carry on the Neocon mantra while denying it. Those who believe govt doesnt work have no reason to be in it."
Gufberg 3 years ago
Very interesting interpretation. In my interactions with libertarians though, I do not see the intent described.
Many libertarians seem solely interested in their own personal freedom, to the extent that sometimes they can become callous, and self-centered.
But ultimately the argument for "the market" is more compelling than the argument for Hobbes "Leviathan"
Jcolinsol 3 years ago
Yes, that is how i see the average libertarian voter too. But libertarian politicians are different. They are indeed trying to build a democracy up on a completely free market, while destroying our public assets. The intentions of libertarian politicians are evil think, the average normal guy-libertarian is just misled however, i think.
This all ofcourse, depends on what one view as a free society. To me, a socialist dictatorship is an ideal free society. It repress something, but allow others
Gufberg 3 years ago
Well, there are two inherent flaws with a centralized, "socialist" system.
1. It cannot adapt the way the market can. There is a literal physical laws called "emergence" or "sync" which means that individuals create order by their actions. From the bottom up, not the top down.
2. It's much easier to seize and corrupt a centralized system, than a diffuse one.
Ultimately, I would rather own things privately because I can put them to moral use whereas the government uses my money to kill people.
Jcolinsol 3 years ago
1. In an ideal world it wouldn't have a need to adapt, because in that world the whole world would be communist (my ideal world ofcourse).
2. I disagree on this one, while a planned economy is indeed easy to corrupt, a 'free' market is just as corruptable.
Lets take the USA, the government is more or less owned by the companies, and their interests. They only have profit at heart, in a socialist economy people would consider other things than profit. Especially the government.
Gufberg 3 years ago
Guf...BARF @ Communism.
Ideal?? It kills all incentive and creativity.
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago
Gufberg...the problem is that the GOVERNMENT isn't allowing REAL Free Market. IF they didn't butt in...things would be MUCH better.
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago 3
So you are pro lassiez-faire?. Anarcho capitalist?.
A totally free market has never been benificial to anyone. There are MAJOR flaws in this system that causes poverty, disease, mass murder, exploitation and so on.
Flaws the liberal lunatics just ignore.
Gufberg 2 years ago
Guf...excuse me? I am not an anarcho nor am I a PLF...I am a PROUD Ron Paul Repubican. And not sure your post makes sense....you talk about a free market not being beneficial to anyone but then you talk about lunatic liberals. What the???? lol. Me thinks someone has been drinking tonight..lol
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago
My post makes perfect sense, you may not know very much about politics. And thus not be able to understand it, it certainly seems so.
Gufberg 2 years ago
Guf...yeah..that is it...lol
*eyeroll*
MsticalPrincess 2 years ago 3
laissez-faire
RepublikaTwo 2 years ago
2/2, the major problem with this is. Private companies but nothing to moral use. The US government install facist dictatorships around the world, killing millions so their companies may exploit its resources at a cheap labour price. The modern day 'democratic' government may doesn't kill in the name of communism (as the soviets did) they kill in the name of profit. And to be honest, i'd go with killing for communism anyday instead.
Gufberg 3 years ago
Educated foreigners (from capitalist countries) instructed the labor (which was alot of unpaid slave labor) by prisoners, some merely politicial produced alot of the output. Anyway, industry is to thank for anything good, not the ideology of communism because it was abhorrent and did not fulfill anything close to it's ideological value you percieved.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
Ouh, but heres what they don't tell in the history books our children are indoctrinated with: When Khruschev came to power, just after Stalin he began a 'de-stalinisation' of the country. He purged it of Stalin, and moved him away from the Lenin mousaleum. He released thousands og Kulaks, and let people write books critisizing communism. Here started work on the infrastructure, largely done by young idealistic communists, eager to help their country.(and this is the factual version actually)
Gufberg 3 years ago
I did read that in the history I studied in year 12 in my books (Australia). I think that is pretty poor if you weren't allowed to know these things. However, there was no special wealth created from this system during this time. It is only the wealth generated from slavery that came from Stalin and then the destalinisation period didn't have anywhere near the production of somewhere like American instrustrialisation.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
So first you critizise Stalin for being a mass murderer, and then you critizise Khruschev for not being as effective as Stalin.. Great.
By the way i never said that you weren't allowed to know these things in the west, my point is they don't write it in the history books they give our children.
But yet the fact remains, Soviet Economy was gaining on the american untill the 1970's. (in 1970 the average east german was actually richer than the average british, this is undenieable fact look itup
Gufberg 3 years ago
I stated it clearly enough that even you could follow. Industry created the boom, and horrible things took place at the time to allow this. After that there wasn't anything communist theology gained in any sort of satisfactory way to support your claims of it being this success story against capitalist countries.
Also you now compare Britain (which was absolutely decimated by WWII bombings by Nazis'and had massive war debt to be paid off). I'm a little bored by your cherry picking facts.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
Haha, so Britain was bombed?.. Are you claiming Britain was more bombed than germany?. Germany had been much more bombed than any of Britain, West Germany had all of the western world to back it up economically. East germany only had the Soviet Union, and yet east germany managed to have a population richer than Britain.
Gufberg 3 years ago
"According to East German statistics, in 1985 there were about 176,800 private entrepreneurs, an increase of about 500 over 1984."
I didn't know much about East Germany so I just did a quick fact check whether communist Germany (your new choice of comparison) was a success. Turns out it isn't even real communism, it's selective just like you are.. gotta admire that.
I'm not sure if your agenda is against NWO and you are against the corporations instead of trying to prove an invalid point.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
"(your new choice of comparison)" If you wanna discuss then discuss, if you wanna play an arrogant then find someone else.
Critizising others on the way they write their posts, or build up their arguments (as you do) is a common technique, used by people with no real knowledge of the subject discussed whatsoever.
Go play cool some other place, i have no more time left for 'people' like you.
Piss off.
Gufberg 3 years ago
You're a no hoper. Enjoy being stuck in the confines of your unimaginative mind.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
During Stalin's reign he implemented Agrarian policies which lead to millions of deaths of citizens who starved in famines. The stalin trials for wiping out his opposition were in no way fair either, the trials were secret and he established his own dictatorship.
There was massive political unrest and rioting. The wealth was stolen from the Kulaks just as Nazi's stole it from the jews to redistribute as well as limiting consumption and redirecting all output back to investment into industry.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
You've just made the most common mistake when trying to prove communism wrong. You've started talking about Stalin. I don't recall myself ever saying anything good about Stalin, so i don't really get why you talk about him.
By the way the number of deaths caused by Stalin is something historians have a hard time agreeing on. It could be a few hundred thousand, it could even only be 70.000. But it could also be millions. Its hard to say.
Gufberg 3 years ago
It's only hard to say because you won't believe the figures in the records because it faults your beliefs.
Anyway you can't give an example of any system of communism more effective than this and it failed.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
Trying to end a discussion like this proves nothing but your lack of real arguments.
Show me these records.
And the Soviet Union was trying to achieve communism, they didn't have it. It was a socialistic society, just like Cuba is at the moment.
You know what reall fails? capitalists who've too blind to open their mind to other things, than what their society tells them.
Don't you get why the communist movement is rising all over the world?. Because it is needed.
Gufberg 3 years ago
is it like deje vu, ron?
rp2012
TEgnoto89 3 years ago
iran must built bomb because it has alot of enemy in the persian gulf and word.
i have a qustion why israel , pakistan , india,china ,usa, and all european country must have atomic bomb but iran must not ?why?
taghizadeh100 3 years ago
because the jews dont like iran, and their slave america has to kill innocents and provoke hate against their own people, because they must obey the jews. america is a zionist puppet this is clear.
I hope governments start severely reducing their dependence on the US. isolated economic blocks should be created that have little to do with outside economies. the US economy is gonna collapse sooner or later and the part the jews played in it wont be small
manhattanwombat 3 years ago
I'm a foreigner and i'm not a capitalist pro-free market guy (rather on the far left), but I realize that free capitalism is a lot better than corporate thuggery (corporations in bed with gvmt). And I realize this man has real principles, he's not out to benefit his friends in big corporations. He also realize that money needs real value and you can't build a nation on debt. If you take a loan, you have to pay back, or bad things come to you, this is so basic a 6-year old understand it.
Komsip 3 years ago
Agreed, i think our view on this matter is very much the same indeed.
Gufberg 3 years ago
how the fuck was he not president i mean isnt d point of a president to tell the people the exact truth even if they dont like it i mean do u really think president obama or even mcain would tell you the american people the exact truth i guess not and yh i am black incase you are wondering
aadejumo 3 years ago 6
Because he isn't part of the "in" crowd, not CFR member. The "election" was fixed before it ever started. BHO is part of the "in" crowd, CFR.
tedezak 3 years ago
because the media didn't vote for him.
evilsinz 3 years ago
USA and ISRAEL are the WORST terrorists in the world!
sidisjames 3 years ago 4
what a bull
allthismovie 3 years ago
Im a communist, and i respect this guy alot. He would surely be the ideal president of USA.
Gufberg 3 years ago 2
Why the heck are you a communist?
return135 3 years ago
Why aren't you?
Gufberg 3 years ago
Because communism fails miserably.
return135 3 years ago
Now thats not really an argument unless you argument for HOW communism fails :)
Gufberg 3 years ago
I think the burden of proof would be on the communists for this one. It's been a total failure in every way in every country it's been implemented in. It usually has the opposite effects it was intended to: greater disparity between rich and poor, horrible human rights violations, totalitarianism, atrocious economic conditions, destroyed environments, etc. etc. I think the question should be: How does communism WORK, because the evidence is certainly stacked against it.
godlesscontrarian 3 years ago
You've got your facts wrong im afraid.
In 1930 the Soviet ruble was 20 cent to a dollar. (shortly after the revolution) in 1970 that had increased to 60 cent to a dollar.
In other words, the soviet planned economy was growing faster than the american free market economy.
Also in 1980 the average soviet citizen had 15.000 dollars per citizen, at present a russian family have 9.000 dollars per citizen.
in fact the evidence is stacked FOR communism, not against it.
Gufberg 3 years ago
Hurricane frequency increased for the last 80 years.
Pirates have decreased for the last 80 years.
SEE PROOF HURRICANES AND PIRATES ARE INVERSELY CORRELATED!
What were starting values of the currencies, what trading came into play, wars, environmental influences, what about resource availability, what about research and health care and other services are they available? Your monetary comparison does not even reflect true wealth, currencies always deflate and inflate for economic reasons.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
oh my god, try to at least hide alittle of your biased liberal views away.
The currencies was a picture of the larger economic situation of the two nations, when comparing them. If you didn't realize that, well then im just suprised.
I thought this was common knowledge, but since ur asking, The Soviet Union had: Free healthcare, free houses/apartments provided by the government, proper healthcare etc. Like any proper socialist nation. Its the basics of socialism/communism.
Gufberg 3 years ago
Ouh, and i see you avoided trying to counter my argument about people generally being richer in the former Soviet Union, than in present day Russia.
So lets sum it up:
people were richer in the Soviet Union, than the russians are now.
They had free healthcare
EXTREMLY reduced food prices
free housing
guaranteed jobs for everyone.
This beats present day russia, and there is no way you can counter it.
Yes, Stalin was a prick. But guess what, Soviet had other presidents too.
Gufberg 3 years ago
I studied Russian history during the era you're talking about and the quality of life in Russia was shocking. I think you need to dig a little deeper into your research as the population was extremely poor, struggled for survival and had lives the equivelant of slaves to initiate the industrial revolution. This was off the back of having a Tsar in power who did not take care of the people and let the country fall into ruin so by relation you'd expect life to improve with any reasonable system.
DrewAWeeks 3 years ago
it does not factor in human nature. Human greed fucks it up. In an idal world where people would work selflessly to distribute all things equally it would b the greatest political system next to anarchism. But a black market alway emerges and human greed and want for more money, power, ect always ruins it. But im not an expert, i can b wrong, just my view on the matter.
mccaffrj 3 years ago
This is not the case, we see communism (or at least a strong socialism) is working in Cuba, its working in Venezuela and it worked in the Soviet Union. It may not work in North Korea, i know too little about it. And the Medias are too biased.
some say that communism doesn't work, and take Stalin as an example. Thats basically like saying capitalism doesn't work, and take Hitler as an example.
Gufberg 3 years ago
Instead of me lecturing you on the multiple reasons why it fails, just read work written by the famous austrian economist Ludwig von Mises. He should be able to convince you.
return135 3 years ago
No more wars for Terrorist state of Israel
The whole world is suffering because of 5 million in Pigsrael
Peraj82 3 years ago
That whole area is fucked up beyond repair.
Not to say there's an 'easy' solution, but still...
JustOneGunner 3 years ago
LOL, only shy 1million
qv76 3 years ago
God! Ron Paul is the only fellow who seems to have a handle on these issues. America had their chance at a SANE leader.
Now you are stuck with yet another ass clown!
jeffreytrochelman 3 years ago 5
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Ron Paul is s fucking fag. No wonder he lost.
MaxMrCoffee 3 years ago
You are obviously mentally deficient.
Ron Paul is one of the good guys. He believes in the constitution!! maybe if more so called republicans would stand up for the constitution we'd not be in the mess we are in. You obviously agree with the bush doctrine, so just fuck off!!
dmc65fairlane 3 years ago 4
I reckon fuck Iran they are violating there citizens human rights. Hagging 14yo boys in the street whipping boys to death they are a terrorist dictatorship. I think other countries should place sanctions of some sort to make them behave in a more civilized manner.
VanDiemen08 3 years ago
I think You are Right
COCONUT202 3 years ago
Yeah we should put sanctions on them so that all of the innocent people living there will die (sarcasm). You can't go around the world telling other people how to live with the threat of attacking them.
kaptainkeezy 3 years ago
Its a democracy. Even if these things you say happen and they dont happen, its the people who elected and if they dont want these things to happen they can vote for someone else. Dont let Bush full you, the dont have dictatorship.
DDentonas 3 years ago
The constitution and international law prohibits ANYONE to go to war except in SELF DEFENSE. Iran did not attack the US or anybody else. The invasion of Iraq was illegal so is the invasion of Iran. Jesus wouln't invade and niether would I.
rogerandgunner 3 years ago
I think we should always leave an open door for diplomacy. We should also make it clear that any direct attack against us by them, or through a surrogate will be considered an act of war. But always leave the door for diplomacy open. Russia was "the evil empire." They had 50,000 nuclear weapons. They wanted to annihilate America. We still kept diplomatic channels open to them. Why not Iran?
nowayjose470 3 years ago
Mossedegh was democratically elected. We overthrew his government, period. We overthrew his government because he nationalized Iran's oil and we want control of it and its trade. Eventually he was overthrown and the AyaTOILET took Americans hostage for over 400 days. BLOWBACK for our interference in their affairs. We support Iraq's war against Iran. We include Iran in the axis of evil, threaten them with war, put 300,000 troops on their border and wonder why they might want a nuclear bomb?
nowayjose470 3 years ago
fraizer57 - First off, I don't know if I can trust a source that calls its opponents terrorists and thugs just because of your opinion on this issue. What diplomacy for the last 30 years are you talking about? the support of Europe and US for Saddam Hussein to kill as many Iranians as possible!!! By direct democracy, I mean go and sit with them and see what they are seeking, how else would you go around this problem? They do not respond to sanctions as we have seen. What do YOU say we do?
turbomzi 3 years ago
fraizer57, why do you think that Iran captured American hostages in the 1970's or attacked American soldiers in 1983? Possibly, it's because in 1953 the US-backed CIA removed a DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED ruler from office and put a dictator in his place? They don't hate us because we're free or powerful. They hate us because we have a foreign policy of interventionism. These are alot of large words. Simply put: if we leave them the fuck alone, they will do the same for us. Feel free to reply.
thunt1294 3 years ago
thunt1294, Mosadegh was not democratic & far from it. History is written by the victors. In oprder to appease the Mullahs the west has totaly misrepresented the event of 1959. A reigning King does not need a staged coup since he is already in power unless there is a coup against him.What happened than was a coup by Mosadegh on Aug 15th.Mosadegh disobayed king's constitutional dicree. 2 days later the people, Mullahs, Bazaries & the army staged a counter coup. American did not have time to do it.
fraizer57 3 years ago
thunt1294, The Shah of Iran was not a dictator unless you want to believe the Mullahs,the terrorist leftists & the western far left liberal Media.The Shah twice pardoned his would be assasins.Regan while still governor of CA said in July 80:"What we did to the Shah was a black page in the history of America".William Shawcross the Shah's biographer said:"What puzzeled him was why the shah's regime was represented as the worst when it was actually the best in the reagon".Do not beleave the media.
fraizer57 3 years ago
You can't claim that Shah was not a dictator and that the US did the right thing by intervening in this matter. In fact, Shah was such a bad dictator that got overthrown after a couple of years and people were desperate for a different regime and democracy that they had no choice, but accepting the current regime, but that's just history and cannot be changed nor could it be undone. What Iran least needs right now is a regime change. The solution to Iran is primarily direct diplomacy, right now.
turbomzi 3 years ago
turbomzi, Are you for real? direct diplomacy with the thugs, terrorists & murderers? As if there has not been any diplomacy withem why Europe & USA directly or indirectly in past 30 years? As for the Shah, You are either misinformed or taken in by the BBC, far left liberal media & the Mullahs propoganda system. What happened in Iran was a very well orchestrated conspiracy by Carter & the Brits to turn the clock back on Iran. Read Hostage to Khomeini by Robert Dreyfuss or be fooled for ever.
fraizer57 3 years ago
Ron Paul should be renamed Ron Foooool. With stupid friends like this ass hole does America need other enemies? Iranian terrorist regime had declared war on America as far back as 1983, when they sent suicide bomers to kill over 200 innocent US army men in Lebanon. Everyone knows that the fucking killer Mullahs are building bombs even. Like many Democrats, this fucking jerk Ron Fool is on the pay role of the Iranian Mullahs. Shame that he is a republican. He needs his brain tested if he has any.
fraizer57 3 years ago
And with that said Fraizer57, we now know why america has the goverment they have today. *cheers*
phrek75 3 years ago
Cheers to you phrek 57, Thugs like Ron Fool, Ted Kennedy, Joe Ben-Biden, Black Houssein Osama & Jimmy Carter have never stopped supporting the killer Mullahs. These fuckers truly became the spokesmen of the Muslims & the barbaric regime in Iran. Jimmy Carter is the father of the Iranian revolution. He threw the Americas best ally under bus & sold Iran to the anti-American Mullahs. They turned the clock back in