very good , dont forget to mention how muslims deprive themselves of being individuals by wraping towles round their head. the lifestlye is not fair to people becuase of some mytholoigy created thosand years ago
It seems to me that both Christianity and Islam are geared to breaking down people's will. Teaching people they are worthless and therefore should do as they are told.
who the hell would want to boil a frog? is this one of those british things like boiling a chicken for fear there might be flavor left? Even the french know you use dry heat or frying on frogs.
Unless it's to make frog soup, I have no idea why anyone would want to boil a live frog. If anyone was going to boil one to eat it, I'd hope they had the decency to despatch it prior to immersion in the boiling water.
The 'small changes' argument, while not necessarily true, is also why many people object so strongly to small changes in secular matters as well. Small changes can compound but people do not notice them, do not kick up a fuss. Its as much a trick used by politicians to gradually erode human rights, for example by making it possible to detain individuals without charge, as it is a trick used by bent accountants to evade the attention of the taxman - 'Salami Slicing' they call it in those circles.
This is why I am so critical of even moderate belief, even where the beliefs are harmless or arguably a force for good. If you can convince people to suspend disbelief for them and that they are good no matter what, the flood gates can open for anything else. Its the critical step. And since the consequences are essentially absolved from cause and effect in reality, the result can be suicidal stupidity, such as Catholic disapproval of condoms even in HIV endemic Africa.
I gave this video 5 stars, and I don't even agree with parts of it. It's always good to find people who disagree with religion and yet can be sane about it. I believe I could have a very good, intelligent conversation with this man.
It is interesting. I was raised an atheist, but following a deep crisis in my early twenties I made a conscious attempt to become a Christian. After less than a year I gave it up. I couldn't help but think that the guy I talked to during prayer was myself. I could not help but feel it was all just one big show, totally man-made. Also, I could never ever agree to some preacher or holy text having supremacy over my personal sense of good and evil.
Your video is so jam full of intelligent refutations of religion, hints at how it started and examples of nonsensical stories and rules that have to be believed and followed, that I have to fave it. :)
As usual, you are completely right. It is therefore something of a miracle that, after 60 years, I was moved to question my deeply held religious belief. Mind you, as soon as I did so, the scales fell from my eyes, thanks not least to YTube, and videos such as your own.
I suspect that your story is not unusual. It seems to be that once you start questioning the more ridiculous aspects and contradictions of religion, that automatically destroys any idea of inerrancy. Once that is gone, questioning the rest of it leads to further failure. I am surprised when I encounter people who have "middle ground" belief. People who question the belief in virgin birth, but not the resurrection. That's cherry picking, of course. I find it bizarre.
Most theists have their whole lives enmeshed in their religion, their families, friends, social life, are joined to the fabric of the beliefs, aside from their indoctrination.
This means it is not in their interests to look critically at their religion, as becoming an atheist is not just losing their faith, but their whole social support structure, so even if they have doubts, it's easier just to go along with it.
The prospect of losing all your friends and family is daunting. One that most gay people can probably identify with quite easily. It's a personal choice as to whether a person lives their life as themselves, or how others want to fine them. For me, the freedom to be who I am is more important than the prison of other people's judgement.
I agree with what you're saying don't get me wrong but do you think most of these people can help it? Think about it. They are taught from the time they are little kids to the time they move out into the world on their own that god is real and that he talks to you and that Jesus is coming back etc. I believe they can't help but to believe it. I think had it not been for the element of indoctrination and being forced to go to church that 90+% wouldn't do it on their own.
exacerbatedtaboo: You raise interesting points. Do you think that there is a large minority, or even a majority, of people who are irresistibly inclined to believe in something nonsensical? Therefore, if their religion didn't exist, they would need to believe in something similar. One could argue that there are signs of this happening now; as increasing numbers of people turn away from mainstream religion, we see a growing acceptance of some pretty wild conspiracy theories.
I don't know if they would find something else to fill it with but I do think that religion is all that some people feel they have. That's why I'm not much in favor of making fun of them and ridiculing them for what they believe. I try to expose them to common sense. Sometimes I do go off of them but I think they are honestly brainwashed or atleast most of them are. Some of them are only in it for profit and gain. It's hard to say if they would reach for something else in its place though.
exacerbatedtaboo - I don't think most people stand a chance against religion. They are hooked at such an early age that they never stand a chance of questioning it seriously. Having said that, people do convert, even late in life. There is some evidence to suggest that Mother Theresa was questioning her faith just before she died.
I agree completely. I was a very faithful pentcostal christian at one time. I can't explain it though. It just all of a sudden stopped making sense to me and the "biblical answers" just weren't there anymore. So I couldn't agree more. I don't think we should try to stop exposing the religious to truth either but I do think some leaders in the atheist community treat them like they are retarded and make them have even more of a negative opinion about Atheism. Keep up the great work friend.
Well I am against boiling frogs not that I like them that much. I have never had one that turned into a prince. Now what was the rest you were talking about as I got bogged down with the frogs.
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mschneider18xx 1 year ago
very good , dont forget to mention how muslims deprive themselves of being individuals by wraping towles round their head. the lifestlye is not fair to people becuase of some mytholoigy created thosand years ago
dunemoonbeam 2 years ago
It seems to me that both Christianity and Islam are geared to breaking down people's will. Teaching people they are worthless and therefore should do as they are told.
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
it's like that book "The Giver"
plottotakethemdown 2 years ago
who the hell would want to boil a frog? is this one of those british things like boiling a chicken for fear there might be flavor left? Even the french know you use dry heat or frying on frogs.
ratholin 2 years ago
Unless it's to make frog soup, I have no idea why anyone would want to boil a live frog. If anyone was going to boil one to eat it, I'd hope they had the decency to despatch it prior to immersion in the boiling water.
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
The 'small changes' argument, while not necessarily true, is also why many people object so strongly to small changes in secular matters as well. Small changes can compound but people do not notice them, do not kick up a fuss. Its as much a trick used by politicians to gradually erode human rights, for example by making it possible to detain individuals without charge, as it is a trick used by bent accountants to evade the attention of the taxman - 'Salami Slicing' they call it in those circles.
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
Spot on David.
This is why I am so critical of even moderate belief, even where the beliefs are harmless or arguably a force for good. If you can convince people to suspend disbelief for them and that they are good no matter what, the flood gates can open for anything else. Its the critical step. And since the consequences are essentially absolved from cause and effect in reality, the result can be suicidal stupidity, such as Catholic disapproval of condoms even in HIV endemic Africa.
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
I gave this video 5 stars, and I don't even agree with parts of it. It's always good to find people who disagree with religion and yet can be sane about it. I believe I could have a very good, intelligent conversation with this man.
mrchuckmorris 2 years ago
well done. you swallow one piece of bullshit and you suddenly find yourself drowning in it.
illbetilbake 2 years ago
Worse than than. They seem to develop a taste for it and nothing else will do.
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
It is interesting. I was raised an atheist, but following a deep crisis in my early twenties I made a conscious attempt to become a Christian. After less than a year I gave it up. I couldn't help but think that the guy I talked to during prayer was myself. I could not help but feel it was all just one big show, totally man-made. Also, I could never ever agree to some preacher or holy text having supremacy over my personal sense of good and evil.
illbetilbake 2 years ago
Excellent.
ProfMTH 2 years ago
Your video is so jam full of intelligent refutations of religion, hints at how it started and examples of nonsensical stories and rules that have to be believed and followed, that I have to fave it. :)
dewonthegrass 2 years ago
As usual, you are completely right. It is therefore something of a miracle that, after 60 years, I was moved to question my deeply held religious belief. Mind you, as soon as I did so, the scales fell from my eyes, thanks not least to YTube, and videos such as your own.
tenneral 2 years ago 3
I suspect that your story is not unusual. It seems to be that once you start questioning the more ridiculous aspects and contradictions of religion, that automatically destroys any idea of inerrancy. Once that is gone, questioning the rest of it leads to further failure. I am surprised when I encounter people who have "middle ground" belief. People who question the belief in virgin birth, but not the resurrection. That's cherry picking, of course. I find it bizarre.
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
Most theists have their whole lives enmeshed in their religion, their families, friends, social life, are joined to the fabric of the beliefs, aside from their indoctrination.
This means it is not in their interests to look critically at their religion, as becoming an atheist is not just losing their faith, but their whole social support structure, so even if they have doubts, it's easier just to go along with it.
wordavee 2 years ago
The prospect of losing all your friends and family is daunting. One that most gay people can probably identify with quite easily. It's a personal choice as to whether a person lives their life as themselves, or how others want to fine them. For me, the freedom to be who I am is more important than the prison of other people's judgement.
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
Hey man, all the more cookies for me.
thunderpants10 2 years ago
I wonder if the band extends to space cake brownies?
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
Well done, good sir.
BananaHurricane 2 years ago
I agree with what you're saying don't get me wrong but do you think most of these people can help it? Think about it. They are taught from the time they are little kids to the time they move out into the world on their own that god is real and that he talks to you and that Jesus is coming back etc. I believe they can't help but to believe it. I think had it not been for the element of indoctrination and being forced to go to church that 90+% wouldn't do it on their own.
exacerbatedtaboo 2 years ago
exacerbatedtaboo: You raise interesting points. Do you think that there is a large minority, or even a majority, of people who are irresistibly inclined to believe in something nonsensical? Therefore, if their religion didn't exist, they would need to believe in something similar. One could argue that there are signs of this happening now; as increasing numbers of people turn away from mainstream religion, we see a growing acceptance of some pretty wild conspiracy theories.
bimblinghill 2 years ago
I don't know if they would find something else to fill it with but I do think that religion is all that some people feel they have. That's why I'm not much in favor of making fun of them and ridiculing them for what they believe. I try to expose them to common sense. Sometimes I do go off of them but I think they are honestly brainwashed or atleast most of them are. Some of them are only in it for profit and gain. It's hard to say if they would reach for something else in its place though.
exacerbatedtaboo 2 years ago
Yeah, who knows? It was just speculation really.
bimblinghill 2 years ago
exacerbatedtaboo - I don't think most people stand a chance against religion. They are hooked at such an early age that they never stand a chance of questioning it seriously. Having said that, people do convert, even late in life. There is some evidence to suggest that Mother Theresa was questioning her faith just before she died.
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
I agree completely. I was a very faithful pentcostal christian at one time. I can't explain it though. It just all of a sudden stopped making sense to me and the "biblical answers" just weren't there anymore. So I couldn't agree more. I don't think we should try to stop exposing the religious to truth either but I do think some leaders in the atheist community treat them like they are retarded and make them have even more of a negative opinion about Atheism. Keep up the great work friend.
exacerbatedtaboo 2 years ago
Well I am against boiling frogs not that I like them that much. I have never had one that turned into a prince. Now what was the rest you were talking about as I got bogged down with the frogs.
Tridhos 2 years ago
Am I the only one that is glad that Jehova's witnesses are forbidden to vote?
adamredwine 2 years ago 3
I wish I could find out what kind of door bell they're forbidden to press. I'd have one installed.
thatgaybloke 2 years ago
the one with blood on it.
ratholin 2 years ago
I'll have to remember these rules for the next time they come knocking. I'll invite them in and quiz them about these rules. I like it!
CousinoMacul 2 years ago
Well spoken, bloke! Keep up the good work!
Hereticbooks 2 years ago
I fucking love you!
eequalsfb 2 years ago
very well put!
kalsolarUK 2 years ago
Well done as always, tgb. 5/5
sidexwalk 2 years ago