zakir hussain and Nikhil Banerjee- chakardar

[tablajazz]

The first 1:11 is the part that appears too "experimental". He is fitting a pattern that sounds a lot like teen-taal in tisra-jati. um...yeah. Mistake, indeed. But at 1:14 he nails a sweet chakradaar that lands nice. Creative License Rules!

[kjaan]

@tablajazz Thanks for agreeing with me on the mistake part. It is very hard for people who do not play tabla or have understanding of matras to convince them that he made a mistake. He is human just like all of us.

[pearl1729]

@kjaan

kjaan and tablajaaz,

I wouldn't call 'experimentation' or 'trying something that is not conventional or tradition' is no mistake but if you talk about that he is going off beat or he couldn't come to the soam as he is supposed to, then I agree. Of course mistakes happen especially when they experiment but nice thing he has finished it off quite nicely

[meghi1980]

mistake?hahha..!we should think that we are just fortunate as we get to listen to such music.close your eyes..and listen!

[TheRainman19]

what mistake? :|

[sitarandtabla]

Ustad Zakir is UNIQUE and absolutely uncomparable. Even when he plays simple theka he sounds better that anyone. One of the greatest musicians to grace the earth. Even his accompaniment captures all attention. He is in League of his own.

[sonofthedestroyer]

Zakir Hussain is a great entertainer but thats it. I listen to him for fun drumming. But when it comes to listening to real classical music i avoid him. People mistakenly accuse me of hating him and being jealous etc.

Also remember that he threw a temper tantrum (on stage) when he was accompanying Ravi Shankar because he wanted the tabla amplifier to be really loud. Have you all forgotten that incident? Ravi later said that this was classical music and not a rock or fusion concert.

[saazindah]

Zakir is the best tabla player. What he has done for tabla is remarkable. Now everyone either follows him or are jealous of him. He is a "super power" of Tabla

[gurdain]

unfortunately, zakirji's first tihai didn't work

the third part of the third palla has 2 extra dhatichikta phrases to get to the sam - because it didn't work properly, he started another smaller tihai from the sam and finished the composition. sure he didn't guess the piece, but it did not work first time - that was the reason for the second tihai.

[mdayal]

KJAAN: WHY AND YOU MUST REMOVE THE COMMENT BECAUSE IT IS YOU THAT IS GETTING HURT THE MOST.

The taal is indeed 14 beats (Ada Chautal, divided 2+2+2+2+2+2+2) and the composition is in Raga Shyam Kedar. The first tihai is timed to end exactly one beat before sum (this is called an "anaagat" tihai, or "aanadha") . The second tihai can therefore begin just after sum and end exactly on sum (which it does!). It is calculated, precise and a musically accurate composition.

[ajrahi]

There is no mistake whatsoever in this piece. Rather, it is a masterpiece of a very rare kind. There is no mistake... I have lived with music for 25 years now and if there was any flaw, i would have said that...

[jnotsorich]

This is a terrible clip of a flawless, sophisticated performance. NO MISTAKE. The audience was applauding the very thing some of you think was a mistake - the way Zakirji immediately started a tihai at the end of the chakardar. If you rely on the usual climax followed by rests to identify the sam, you may have thought you heard a mistake. But he didn't miss the beat -- you did.

[olemunati]

Silly video post. And NO MISTAKE.

[simsg90]

It's a mistake, but despite that he still got the applaud at the end.

Shows how much respect he has.

[andrumclean]

There's really no need to post a video like this. 1st, the picture and sound are awful. And 2nd, every improvising musician must take risks which wouldn't be a risk if you never make mistakes...and a mistake is a relative concept anyway.

[nachiketpantvaidya]

would agree, not on the sama at all - but can't understand the structure of the chakradhar completely - was the attempt to play the teental in the normal laya for eight beats and then eight by six times faster in the other eight to get to 14 ? puzzling...

[jaitaal]

I don't think this is a mistake. The entire live recording was commercially released on the German Chhanda Dhara label ("The Genius of Pandit Nikhil Banerjee - Shyam Kedar"). I seriously doubt either of the artists would consent to a commercial release if a mistake was made.

[karwizz]

no mistake!!!

when one reaches a level like USTAD ZAKIR HUSSAIN, you dont make mistakes...

the compostition of the tihai is just a little different.

[sonofthedestroyer]

Hahahahahahaha I wonder how Zakir will feel if he sees this video on youtube. There is a video of Tari Khan messing up in a ghazal with Hariharan on youtube.

[NuclearLullaby]

sounds good,but what's the deal with the video? Everythings all shakey! Zakir Hussein is a living legoned of Tabla He does some awesome stuff! If you could fix the Video quality this would be much better!

[Ragajoint]

If he did mess up, it still sounded pretty cool. It's hard to tell if that pause is to fix the timing or if the off timing is done on purpose. It is a rather off time piece.

[dhruviji]

Ok kids less juss all chill out, Zakirs a don ye, buh hes human, we all make mistakes every day, put yer cocks down!... and errmm juss chill, Let it be

[mdayal]

Finally, you say:

"Your an idiot. My intention was not malicious. It shows that even great maestro make a mistake which shows that he is human. We make mistakes."

Perhaps, you made a mistake. Is that possible ? Again, playing a musical instrument is not about the kind of fanatical rigidity of form and structure that you seem to be suggesting.

Please, where is your sense of proportion ?

In light of all the comments, I suggest you change the title.

[kjaan]

I will not change the title. I have shown this video to few tabla players and they all agree with me. I want you guys to tell me which beat or taal this is since you guys are saying there is no mistake.

[Ramatganski]

A mistake indeed - It's to the count of 14 beats and he fails to end on the first or on any sagnificant beat as he should have ( after all that's the point!)

[kjaan]

Thank you. You are the first person who got the beat or taal right. Others just make comments without knowing about taal or playing tabla.

[jaitaal]

Sorry to disagree but you're both wrong. The taal is indeed 14 beats (Ada Chautal, divided 2+2+2+2+2+2+2) and the composition is in Raga Shyam Kedar. The first tihai is timed to end exactly one beat before sum (this is called an "anaagat" tihai, or "aanadha") . The second tihai can therefore begin just after sum and end exactly on sum (which it does!). It is calculated, precise and a musically accurate composition. Anindo Chatterjee plays these types of tukdas all the time.

[roopeshrn]

hey u seem 2 be really good at tabala..me actually learning tabala and would really love 2 know some sites where i can find good classical music(songs and videos)..thanx in advance..

[GFCSoccer22]

I Agree Its No Mistake You Need To Change The Title And Description Because You Are Giving Zakirji A Bad Name Plus My Teacher Is His Student Salar Nader Look Him Up On Here So You Cant Get It Passed Me

[kjaan]

I am not giving him a bad name. To make a mistake is giving him a bad name? He is the best tabla player in the world right now. I will post more of his great solo in the future. Show Salar this video and see if he agrees with me.

[sonofthedestroyer]

Thank you so much. You are extremely brave as criticising an Indian musician is going to result in hordes of hero worshippers attacking you! Well done! you have proved he just a human being and not some mythical God.

[billysamy83]

your an idiot for posting this.

[kjaan]

Your an idiot. My intention was not malicious. It shows that even great maestro make a mistake which shows that he is human. We make mistakes.

[MarcGregoryNeville]

There is no mistake.

It sounds just fine to me.

It's just how he chose his phrasing.

[kjaan]

Wrong, chakardar don't have uneven gaps and neither do tihai's

[kjaan]

It starts from 47 seconds on. He completely stops at 1.02 and then completes the tihai on the sam.

[chrisitar]

what is the time of the mistake?