T. rex, Finish Your Broccoli: "Scavengers" Pt. 2.1

[InternetDarkLord]

Actually, even a scavenger T. Rex would disprove the Bible, it says "green herb" Read Genesis Chapter 1, verse 30. The entire argument is a strawman.

[EtaCarinaez]

the fact that these creationists mentioned a t-rex attacking brachiosaurs already shows how stupid they are because obviously they got no further than watching jurassic park xD

[Koga33525]

i goota say, this video is hilarious

and awesome too

i didn't know there were people who believed t-rex ate plants and that all dinosaurs lived at the same time and were all herbivorous

or were that stupid or hypocritical

i mean, come on, it's the twenty-first century!

since i love dinosaurs, that offends me

and you have a good sense of humor. five stars for you!

[Chase9803]

most dinosaur species that scientists label are just viariations of the same species. I think that Trex being a scavenger makes sense because something had to eat those giant herbivore dinosaurs when they died of natural causes or there would be a giant dead thing rotting it would be gross. Also for noahs flood the animals all cooperated and did not attack eachother because of the grace of God and that was not his will in this one time thing.

[gregrutz]

Keep up the good work.

[AcanLord]

Refuting creationist arguments like these is similar to punching an infant.

[SimeoKiller]

LOL "no shit"

[weberly2]

i don't know what in the world this would have to do with creationism, exactly, but i can tell you the Bible does say there were dragons. i'm a creationist and i highly doubt T Rex wasn't a predator. i was taught there were all kinds of dangerous animals on the Ark, although we don't know for sure what species, etc. (it just says a male and female of each "kind" and so many of each "sort") but that they were led by Holy Spirit presumably, Noah was also instructed to bring food for all of them.

[gregrutz]

Now if you only had any evidence there was a flood. Geologist say you are wrong.

[weberly2]

i guess that depends on if they lean towards catastrophism or uniformitarianism. i'm very interested in the physical data and the forensic analysis of it, but also in what our human ancestors say. my specific belief in Noah and the flood comes from my religion.

[gregrutz]

No, it depends on weather you look at the facts [geology] or keep your head buried in the bible.

[weberly2]

there are stories passed down from cultures all around the earth about a great flood, not just the Hebrews. i find that kind of interesting. i think the ancients were a lot more capable, intelligent, and even sensitive than usually depicted and i really don't think our modern scientists know all that more or know everything, as people like to think. our ancestors may have been smarter than us, all of our knowledge has the benefit of being built on what someone before us thought or discovered.

[gregrutz]

You are 2000 years behind the times, still believe in old stories.

[weberly2]

i'm off topic, but i like talking about this stuff. yes, i believe in the Bible, if that's what you are referring to, for a number of reasons. parts of it are told in stories to make a point, and because of an oral tradition, but i tend to believe them literally. some people don't. but as far as legends in general, they can inform, they may contain a seed of truth and it's fun to trace their development. i am interested in the words & artwork people left behind. dragon stories for example.

[gregrutz]

dragon stories. check out the UFO stories too. OR the flood stories

I prefer science and reality.

[weberly2]

yes, dragon stories. it's odd that people from all over the globe have them, when they didn't even know about each other.

[TristanPEJ]

I thought it was called the Apatasaurus >_>

[lowcomedy]

The hind limbs of a T-Rex suggest a pretty powerful bipedal gate. Think of an ostrich or an emu. Its jaws and teeth are that of a bone crusher, but that does not make it a scavenger. It prob did hunt live prey but was also an opportunist, feasting on the leftovers of other carnivores.

[snakeguy76]

The cat slapping the dog was the best ! Shazaam!! Besides they don't say much about the other carnivorous theropods - allosaurs, spinosaurs, velociraptor, dromaesaurs ets etc.

[mtheoryrules]

I enjoyed your vid great work

=p

Sorry I was an ass before.

[mtheoryrules]

But back to the computer sim, it is interesting because the program actually had to learn how to walk, then run through trail and error and the top speeds that were achieve where in excess of 45 mph using conservitive values for the forces that the possible muscular structure of t-rex may have been able to generate.

In short based in these insights there is circumstantion evidence to make the case for a hunting t-rex.

Gota love the science channel.

[mtheoryrules]

If I recall correctly new theories about t-rex as a predator are supported by computer modeling sugesting that based on moderate anatomy would give t-rex a bite force of about twice that of large crocs, something on the oder of 5-7000 lbs psi and could achieve speeds of, 30-40 mph for at least short bursts.

These theories are based on physics engines that are programed with atonmical features of t-rex.

[mtheoryrules]

This is with regards to its speed the bite force was reached by comparing the marks left in fossilized hip bones of some other dino and then reproducing like marks using comparable materials for the teeth of t-rex and bone density of the hip bones that provide the marks, which fit a t-rex bite pattern.

So this only indicates a range that may or may not be maxium psi.

[TheUndeadLawyer]

Excellent work!

[Katalyzt]

Indeed!

[zbambam5]

Dinosaurs own. New sub right here<<<<<

[whineybtch]

LOL. Loved.

[jebus6kryst]

Great work.

[XyoungearthX]

Yep!

Non-meat eating T-Rex really doesn't prove anything.

Of course they ate meat.

About T-Rex on the Ark, they probably went to the ark as young T-Rexs. I don't have any evidence for this claim, other than the idea that paleontologists have that claim that the T-Rex was fairly small until it's teenage years.

During it's teenage years it grew very quickly.

So, if there were little mini-rexes on the ark, kept in their own little room, there wouldn't be a problem.

The bible does mention rooms

[sighuponsigh]

FAIL.

[XyoungearthX]

????????

Oh, ok

FAIL

[jebus6kryst]

Babies? Are you kidding? This goes for almost any predator not just T-rex, but most of them have to learn how to hunt from their mother. If there were no one to teach them how would they got food for themselves once they grew up?

[XyoungearthX]

Well, from archeological studies, the conclusion that T-Rex's are relatively small for most of their lives, and then for the last few go through a growth spurt.

I don't know the exact figures, but it was estimated that the average lifespan of a TRex was about 25 years, and they remained fairly small for about 18 of them.

I'll see if I can find the article that I got that info from, but I'm pretty sure it was National Geographic.

[Chatsworth1968]

Very impressive commentary.

[Danmill23]

Excelent Biogirl. That was another cool one!

[Rahab111222]

"Yet this is trash that the Church imposes upon the world as the Word of God; this is the collection of lies and contradictions called the Holy Bible! This is the rubbish called Revealed Religion!" ~Thomas Paine

It is not a God, just and good, but a devil, under the name of God, that the Bible describes. ~Thomas Paine

[zbambam5]

T Paine ftw.

[CapeandCowl]

hahah! another good video.

[beliserius]

so cute when you said "no shit".

BTW, from some discovery channel documentary, it stated that the T-Rex is possibly a scavenger because of the small arms, and sluggish maneuverability.

Though, I don't know.

[Biogirl52]

Yeah. My point was more over not so much discrediting that idea as it was saying that proving T. Rex to be a scavenger is irrelevant.

[beliserius]

Oh I know, Because what about raptors? and other clear predatory dinosaurs.

Or even predatory mammals.

It just doesn't make sense for them to be scavengers(meaning a heck of a lot of things die), or vegetarians (meaning snake can chew grass).

All makes as much sense as if Goats are flesh eating man hunters.

[Biogirl52]

Hehehe. Quite. I'm sure there's some obscure reasoning for it out there.

Anyways, I don't have any problem with the hypothesis that T. Rex was a scavenger. It makes a lot of sense, but it's not widely accepted at current. I just wanted people to see that it's an argument with no real influence in the greater picture of things when it comes to Creat/Evo debates.

Thanks for your compliments :D

[Erech01]

lol! t-rex not be a hunter:P LOOK AT THE LEGS!!!! big legs = BIG muscles, perfect for running, HUGE JAW for ripping s*#t to shreds:P and a BIG heavy tail to balance its jaw:P its a great creature for hunting an killing equally big (or smaller) creatures:P