The body of Jesus Christ was put in a Shroud,and than place in a tomb. This took place before the Ressurection. There no proof that He did not raise Himself from death.
it is no doubt anymore that this is the shroud of Jesus with all evidence of suffering - however, the consequence is to forgive and love even enemies and those *who do not know better* as Jesus did on the cross because love and life will succeed in the end - and not to suppress and create hatred as often is done with religion (see the dark ages burning witches etc)
WHY IS EVERYONE FIXATED ON THIS SHROUD? THE HOLY SPIRIT PROVES HIS RESSURECTION AND SALVATION. THE SPIRIT TEACHES, AND JESUS' BODY IS CHANGED. THIS WORLD IS CORRUPT. READ THE KING JAMES BIBLE TO KNOW THE LIGHT OF GOD. THIS SHROUD IS A DECEPTION AND A DISTRACTION FROM KNOWING WHAT THE MYSTERY OF SALVATION IS ALL ABOUT. ALIENS AND GENETIC HYBRIDIZATION BY LUCIFER IS PART OF IT. THE COMING ALIENS AND ANTICHRIST WILL USE THIS SHROUD TO PROVE THE ALIEN IS CHRIST RETURNED. THE HOAX WAS FORTOLD NBIBLE.
@godwithme777 If you stopped shouting for a moment and actually learned to construct an argument that would be acceptable to educated people, that would be an incredible step forward. As it is you seem to show evidence of a scrambled mind...
When you say it's not Jesus because the tomb was 5'9.5" feet tall and the shroud's image 5'11" it's not like Jesus walked in to the tomb. And even if he did you can duck. That is not a proof at all against it's authenticity. It seems real to me.
"i believe", "i think", "maybe" - for crying out loud. Even saying "if its a mystery it should remain like that"! really? true religious approach to an issue - oh, i dont know or understand, god did it" intelligent species huh?!
How does the shroud square with the scriptural record that,
"... they ran both together: and ... he stooping down ... saw the linen clothes lying; ... Then cometh Simon Peter ... and seeth the linen clothes lie, and the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself" ? (John 20: 4-7)
Also, the pathologist says the shroud body was 5' 11" long. But the rock cut-out in the garden tomb is only 5' 9.5" long.
@saxonhawthorn You can't rely on English translation to prove anything. I once read an article in which a Greek specialist analyzed the Greek text and proved it compatible with the Shroud.
The headcloth is now at Oviedo in Spain, having followed a completely different itinerary to the Shroud. But the bloodstains on it match those on the Shroud. The headcloth was placed on his head once he died, when still on the cross.
funny.. isn't the fact that even today with our amazing technology.. we still can't reduplicate it.. proof that it's authentic? I mean besides the mountain of other evidence.
While I believe that the shroud is an exceptional proof of Jesus' divinity. However in fairness, not everything you cannot explain means that it is a miracle. The Great Pyramid.. A miralcle?
@8Thirst Humans made the great pyramids in alignment with the stars. Mathematics is almost as old as humans themselves, so I'm not too surprised they built it so well
That only way you can test the authenticity of any holy is it gives wondrous miracle..Not for scientist research. If it's real that's our only direct connection to Jesus and people should enjoy miracles can bring.."PEOPLE OF LITTLE FAITH". While we all know that any holy gives wondrous miracles.
No it couldn't be proved to be in a court of law beyond any doubt that it's medieval, it can be proved to be 1st century & with human blood, as the new tests show a man died by crucifiction was wrapped in the cloth. The old C-14 tests were contaminated, plus they were pretty flimsy in thier dating. The vanillin testing was found pos & neg, pos on medieval repair, but neg on the side of 1st century side, which is to be expected. The AMS tests by STURP were more reliable than the C-14.
I love the Shroud of Turin. I believe the image on the cloth is of Jesus Christ. Who else could be treated so badly and still appear so noble, so kingly, so beautiful?
An excellent and thought provoking little 4 videos. Well, maybe thought provoking to the more intelligent viewer and as some comments suggest typical to YT the cause of barking from others.
bodies do not emit radiation after death naturally.
you admit he was real , why can't you accept his divinity? Physics allows for it in a couple of models. or like Thomas do you need to feel the wounds with your own hands?
i dont explain the image, and neither do any real scientists, because just like a fraud they only allow certain "scientists to examine it"
and i dont know if he was real or not, do you not understand how religions work? especially back in those days you could make a story up about giants and the primitives would believe it
actually your bible speaks of giants hahhahahaha
if it wasnt a fraud the church would have no problem proving its validity...
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i just deny the ones that are so obviously made up by primitives who had no understanding of physics... like christianity and those other primitive attempts at governing primitive people.
like your retarded ass jesus story. its a plagiarism of the egyptian book of the dead, and your "truth book" explains a world where proven facts like evolution and a world older than 10,000 years old doesnt exist.
give me a break. please please please please give me the "physicists" names.
I don't think this shroud really covered the body of Christ. I believe firmly in the resurrection but in the Bible is said something along the lines that what was covered Jesus was like an empty husk. NOT a cloth just lying there.
The Jews wrapped the cloth around the body, not over the top of the head. The hair is to neat to have been torn by the thorns. The photo-negative effect is from the paint wearing off the cloth. The arms are to long. Lie down on your back, and position your elbows slightly away from your side, as on the shroud. Then cross your hands over your genitals, as on the shroud. It cannot be done.
The arms on the shroud are to long to be accurate.
to the clown who gave me a thumbs down , by what reason are you justified to do so ? scripture states that Jesus' beard was plucked out also that there were seperate shrouds for his head and body .
this documentry proves only that the shroud is of antiquity nothing more . i challenge you to state on what scriptural grounds there is an inclination that this shroud covered Christ .
Blesseth are they that have not seen,yet believe.
harry811 2 months ago
The body of Jesus Christ was put in a Shroud,and than place in a tomb. This took place before the Ressurection. There no proof that He did not raise Himself from death.
harry811 2 months ago
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it is no doubt anymore that this is the shroud of Jesus with all evidence of suffering - however, the consequence is to forgive and love even enemies and those *who do not know better* as Jesus did on the cross because love and life will succeed in the end - and not to suppress and create hatred as often is done with religion (see the dark ages burning witches etc)
khi590 3 months ago
What a load of old Christian bull shit forgery
MegaGayjesus 4 months ago
WHY IS EVERYONE FIXATED ON THIS SHROUD? THE HOLY SPIRIT PROVES HIS RESSURECTION AND SALVATION. THE SPIRIT TEACHES, AND JESUS' BODY IS CHANGED. THIS WORLD IS CORRUPT. READ THE KING JAMES BIBLE TO KNOW THE LIGHT OF GOD. THIS SHROUD IS A DECEPTION AND A DISTRACTION FROM KNOWING WHAT THE MYSTERY OF SALVATION IS ALL ABOUT. ALIENS AND GENETIC HYBRIDIZATION BY LUCIFER IS PART OF IT. THE COMING ALIENS AND ANTICHRIST WILL USE THIS SHROUD TO PROVE THE ALIEN IS CHRIST RETURNED. THE HOAX WAS FORTOLD NBIBLE.
godwithme777 5 months ago
@godwithme777 If you stopped shouting for a moment and actually learned to construct an argument that would be acceptable to educated people, that would be an incredible step forward. As it is you seem to show evidence of a scrambled mind...
Porphyrygrampus 3 months ago
I have faith
FeignofCordor 11 months ago
When you say it's not Jesus because the tomb was 5'9.5" feet tall and the shroud's image 5'11" it's not like Jesus walked in to the tomb. And even if he did you can duck. That is not a proof at all against it's authenticity. It seems real to me.
Christistheking1 1 year ago
"i believe", "i think", "maybe" - for crying out loud. Even saying "if its a mystery it should remain like that"! really? true religious approach to an issue - oh, i dont know or understand, god did it" intelligent species huh?!
eleminatus 1 year ago
How does the shroud square with the scriptural record that,
"... they ran both together: and ... he stooping down ... saw the linen clothes lying; ... Then cometh Simon Peter ... and seeth the linen clothes lie, and the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself" ? (John 20: 4-7)
Also, the pathologist says the shroud body was 5' 11" long. But the rock cut-out in the garden tomb is only 5' 9.5" long.
I doubt this is Jesus.
saxonhawthorn 1 year ago
@saxonhawthorn You can't rely on English translation to prove anything. I once read an article in which a Greek specialist analyzed the Greek text and proved it compatible with the Shroud.
The headcloth is now at Oviedo in Spain, having followed a completely different itinerary to the Shroud. But the bloodstains on it match those on the Shroud. The headcloth was placed on his head once he died, when still on the cross.
Porphyrygrampus 11 months ago
I believe do you my brother?
Youtubitiano 1 year ago
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God, Our Lord and King Jesus Christ let bless You!!!
It`s the TRUE and everyone should compare that 3d picture(Manoppello) to the 2d. shroud of Turin to be sure not some fictional models!!!
Poor face of God beaten to death for our sins!
How people can say they don`t love Him-they dont have heart?
JezusSlave 1 year ago
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Gaaminator 1 year ago
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Jesus hates everyone!
fetalbetal 2 years ago
funny.. isn't the fact that even today with our amazing technology.. we still can't reduplicate it.. proof that it's authentic? I mean besides the mountain of other evidence.
mikeseattlewa 2 years ago 4
the glory of God made it :D
oogp 2 years ago
we will find out when we go to heaven. but im srry i dont see any prof that its not jesus so. and god bless.
jakeispsp 2 years ago 10
While I believe that the shroud is an exceptional proof of Jesus' divinity. However in fairness, not everything you cannot explain means that it is a miracle. The Great Pyramid.. A miralcle?
8Thirst 2 years ago
@8Thirst Humans made the great pyramids in alignment with the stars. Mathematics is almost as old as humans themselves, so I'm not too surprised they built it so well
GREATGAIWAIN 1 year ago
That only way you can test the authenticity of any holy is it gives wondrous miracle..Not for scientist research. If it's real that's our only direct connection to Jesus and people should enjoy miracles can bring.."PEOPLE OF LITTLE FAITH". While we all know that any holy gives wondrous miracles.
rosemarieblue1 2 years ago
great video!
MavericKLongRange 2 years ago
No it couldn't be proved to be in a court of law beyond any doubt that it's medieval, it can be proved to be 1st century & with human blood, as the new tests show a man died by crucifiction was wrapped in the cloth. The old C-14 tests were contaminated, plus they were pretty flimsy in thier dating. The vanillin testing was found pos & neg, pos on medieval repair, but neg on the side of 1st century side, which is to be expected. The AMS tests by STURP were more reliable than the C-14.
shelley0809 2 years ago 4
I love the Shroud of Turin. I believe the image on the cloth is of Jesus Christ. Who else could be treated so badly and still appear so noble, so kingly, so beautiful?
jazz0685 2 years ago
Jesus is the light of the world, and the world comprended him not.
timestandingstill 2 years ago 4
No wonder that psychiatry is a profitable profession in the US of A.
tellnet 3 years ago
Jesus said it's an adulterous generation that requires proof, and no proof will be given - his words not mine.
Loonypics 3 years ago
Loonypics:
Did you forget your Looney Tunic ?
"Jesus said it's an adulterous generation that requires proof, and no proof will be given - his words not mine. "
WOW...
BULLSHIT
tellnet 3 years ago
a sign, they wanted a sign
BaBaBaBlazin 2 years ago
An excellent and thought provoking little 4 videos. Well, maybe thought provoking to the more intelligent viewer and as some comments suggest typical to YT the cause of barking from others.
Thanks for the posting.
KaiseRex42 3 years ago
it shows that jesus was a real man... so what i believe he was areal man, but he was no god
you primitives believe anything
thats why only religious people end up becoming cult victoms
AntiVenomFangX 3 years ago
then how do you explain the image?
bodies do not emit radiation after death naturally.
you admit he was real , why can't you accept his divinity? Physics allows for it in a couple of models. or like Thomas do you need to feel the wounds with your own hands?
draconusrex33 2 years ago
i dont explain the image, and neither do any real scientists, because just like a fraud they only allow certain "scientists to examine it"
and i dont know if he was real or not, do you not understand how religions work? especially back in those days you could make a story up about giants and the primitives would believe it
actually your bible speaks of giants hahhahahaha
if it wasnt a fraud the church would have no problem proving its validity...
AntiVenomFangX 2 years ago
just answer the question and leave the rhetoric for the masses.
draconusrex33 2 years ago
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OK this is why we call you people stupid.
my first 5 words answers the question.
i cant believe that someone can be that stupid.
AntiVenomFangX 2 years ago
stop being childish and answer the question .
draconusrex33 2 years ago
I don't explain the image. There i copied and pasted it. i'm sorry it's not childish when i'm truly concerned for you when i say your stupid.
AntiVenomFangX 2 years ago
now if physics allows for the existence of a Creator why can't you?
draconusrex33 2 years ago 11
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i just deny the ones that are so obviously made up by primitives who had no understanding of physics... like christianity and those other primitive attempts at governing primitive people.
like your retarded ass jesus story. its a plagiarism of the egyptian book of the dead, and your "truth book" explains a world where proven facts like evolution and a world older than 10,000 years old doesnt exist.
give me a break. please please please please give me the "physicists" names.
AntiVenomFangX 2 years ago
Glory to our God!
Uzzius008 3 years ago
those are big questions . i shall answer via pm soon . are your intentions to learn about my views or to paint me with a denominational brush?
dogsieh 3 years ago
I don't think this shroud really covered the body of Christ. I believe firmly in the resurrection but in the Bible is said something along the lines that what was covered Jesus was like an empty husk. NOT a cloth just lying there.
Kaza0kun 3 years ago
kaza ,
john 20:6&7 gives us the answer .
God bless
dogsieh 3 years ago
i see a coward lurks , lacking the wisdom or truth to defend his beliefs . keep up the thumbs down without a solid reason and prove my point .
dogsieh 3 years ago 2
The Jews wrapped the cloth around the body, not over the top of the head. The hair is to neat to have been torn by the thorns. The photo-negative effect is from the paint wearing off the cloth. The arms are to long. Lie down on your back, and position your elbows slightly away from your side, as on the shroud. Then cross your hands over your genitals, as on the shroud. It cannot be done.
The arms on the shroud are to long to be accurate.
waldenehn 3 years ago
to the clown who gave me a thumbs down , by what reason are you justified to do so ? scripture states that Jesus' beard was plucked out also that there were seperate shrouds for his head and body .
this documentry proves only that the shroud is of antiquity nothing more . i challenge you to state on what scriptural grounds there is an inclination that this shroud covered Christ .
dogsieh 3 years ago
the shroud is contrary to scripture . if in doubt read the biblical accounts of the resurection and what the tomb contained .
either the bible is in error or the assumption is in error . no point in claiming to be a christian if you chose the bible to be in error .
dogsieh 3 years ago
Thank you meee too!
marcmsvd 3 years ago
Thank you so much.
thnovita 3 years ago