This is a false religious issue plied by republicans to win votes and make an issue that was always there all along but quietly. For Gays it's about justice and it's progeny equality. So when weighed in "under the law" it will be be won by the Gays, and alternately when tried "under God" the republicans will loose, because God conspicuously loves gays. God creates some everyday, and takes them back home too. (The Bible defines Satan as the Accuser. Watch out GOP, 'cause Satan's set to burn soon)
Amazing to see how the media narrative on this has changed. As evidence by this clip, the prevailing common wisdom in the media back in 2004 was "Marriage is between a man and a woman and we're going to make anyone who disagrees with that look like an idiot." You can see it in the very leading questions Blitzer asks both Karel and Knight. Nowadays, Knight wouldn't even be brought on, since he's such a bigot. It would be a dicussion between Karel and Jeffrey Toobin
"No, I don't because I think homosexuality is tragic. It takes lives early, it shortens the idea of family life..." What a scumbag zealot. No fucking clue.
What happened to seperation of church and state..? This is the argument I have the biggest problem with in the american debate on this topic. You can't define the institution of marriage through christian principles, if so, you might as well deny hindus, buddhist, bahai's, muslims the right to get married. I think the majority of european governments could teach the United States a thing or two about democracy, equal rights and freedom perhaps?
Karel kicks ass. Fox and CNN are chicken shit of bringing Karel back because all these pussy guest that they bring are nothing but a bunch jackoffs who do nothing but lies on camera. I think if Fox and CNN want a challenge, then they would bring Karel back otherwise these both networks have NO substances and just playing the camera. The only station that have some substance is MSNBC because of its "hard" truth and not just dancing around the rose berry bush like a bunch of children.
That Robert guy was a dick. Being a Christian is fine. Letting your personal religious views get in the way of offering gays the same basic rights as everyone else is wrong.
Homosexuality is tragic?? I'll tell you what's tragic. Being so unwanted that you have to seek refuge in a group specifically named for women. I feel sorry for him.
The guy is fucking liar. Scandinavia is Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, and norway. Norway and Sweden both have same sex marriage since 2009 and the other 3 countries don't have it, so saying Scandinavia has same sex marriage for decades is a fucking lie.
I know but many Americans talk out of their ass. Before I say something I do some research first. Scandinavia is 5 countries and each with their own government and culture and generalizing them all together is just plain dumb. Now I support same sex marriage since everyone is equal
@jacquelineveronique Same sex unions have been legalised for decades, but yes, it was a complete generalisation and completely unfair. Don't insult Scandinavian ideology and politics when you don't have the right facts. Scandinavia are a group of advanced social democracies and frankly, after only living in Denmark for one and a half years, I can understand why people are so happy to live here, aside from the ridiculous taxes. ;)
Right On Ciou68. RAY PLEASE LEAVE YOUR MIKE ON DURING COMMERCIALS.
I used to listen to Ray once in a while when I was awake in the middle of the night, but have to turn him off because he is such a polarizing figure. He is 100 percent right, and when someone takes a difference in opinion they are 100% wrong! Any loser can rant like Karel and Ray.
KGO did the right thing by firing Karel! I may listen to them more now,
Harley1932: I disagree with Karel on many things. But I still enjoyed listening to him. I talked to him a few times, too. I didn't find out about this until yesterday, because I haven't been listening to talk radio as much recently as I used to.
Do you really enjoy listening to Christine Kraft more?
Karel, hmmmmm caught with your pant down, lolzzzzzzzz I was expecting this day to come. I just wonder when the other bigot (RAY TALIAFERRIO) will get what he deserves!!!
Happy Job Hunting Karel!!! Maybe you should get some counseling in tolerance. How dare you rant for years about intolerant bigots and now you are proven to be the worst kind!
I hate these religious republican assholes trying to push their beliefs on everyone else. Why would I care if my Nabors are gay? Does it make my marriage any less valuable?
Also we dont live in a theocracy stop trying to pass religious concepts into secular law. Im not a Christian and im tired of having to conform to their beliefs.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Im Swedish and herd he was talking about Scandinavia:) and its right, all Swedes has gone homo and are now running the streets laughing too loud and dressing in pink. Its a Goodman pandemic. NOOOT! Jesus Christ whats the bit issue?! How on earth would not allowing homosexuals to marry make the homosexuality go away? Get a life of your own old man!
Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, "Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist": "In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it."
That Karel know's his stuff.He does his homework and is natuarly a very smart and honest man. He is more real than the phoney nay sayers.Keep strong Karel,keep speaking for those of us who think like you do but do not have the knack to get it across. Thank you so much!!! You make the world a better place .
I have to say I wish they'd found a better person to represent the side in favour of gay marriage. This guy is too angry and over the top, CNN's audience won't relate well to him. I liked the interview with Dan Savage and CWA here on youtube. Even though Dan Savage is pretty radical, he presented himself well and came across as intelligent and respectable. This guy just plays into the "angry queen" stereotype.
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Its a slippery slope, when you start legitimizing sexual perversions in culture, where will it end? there are women who have sex with dogs. Will animal-human sex be the next thing they want legalized?! and what about the whole NAMBLA/LGBT thing? and after that pedophilia/pederasty rights?! polygamy? adult incest? NO! stop it now!
look up pederasty on wikipedia, its totally sanctioned by the LGBT! its even a LGBT portal!
Um...I really don't know why you and others are trying to draw similarities between homosexuality and bestiality. Two consenting adults do not equal one adult and an animal who has no way to consent. That's just ONE difference.
Furthermore, Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source for information. I have NEVER had a teacher or professor that allowed Wikipedia to be used as a reference for anything. In fact, most teachers make it known that Wikipedia is not to be used in research.
....homosexuality and beastiality are nothing in common...i'm pretty sure that if two gay people got married beastiality would still be considered weird and perverted...don't compare the two...same with pedophilia
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weird and perverted
to normal males, sex with men is just as disgusting and perverted as sex with animals.
Its like looking at dogshit,then vomit.
To us, they are both disgusting. We know they are different technically, but we have a fear and aversion to both.
Now I know there must be some feces aficionado who takes great offense to this, and cannot understand why I would even use feces and vomit in the same sentence. THEY ARE SO DIFFERENT, HE SCREAMS! but to us, its all sickening.
The lies from the "right" are not only damaging but they're disgusting.
suvariboy 1 month ago
Why does everyone always have to insult Britney? :(
MrJudahmartin 2 months ago
This is a false religious issue plied by republicans to win votes and make an issue that was always there all along but quietly. For Gays it's about justice and it's progeny equality. So when weighed in "under the law" it will be be won by the Gays, and alternately when tried "under God" the republicans will loose, because God conspicuously loves gays. God creates some everyday, and takes them back home too. (The Bible defines Satan as the Accuser. Watch out GOP, 'cause Satan's set to burn soon)
LLH97921 4 months ago
Amazing to see how the media narrative on this has changed. As evidence by this clip, the prevailing common wisdom in the media back in 2004 was "Marriage is between a man and a woman and we're going to make anyone who disagrees with that look like an idiot." You can see it in the very leading questions Blitzer asks both Karel and Knight. Nowadays, Knight wouldn't even be brought on, since he's such a bigot. It would be a dicussion between Karel and Jeffrey Toobin
gracebasherguy92 7 months ago
If I wanted to marry another man, damn, I would be way more pissed than men like Karel.
Bravo for keeping his cool.
Freeisme 7 months ago
If you ARE a bigot, then THAT makes you a bigot. Someone breaking the Golden Rule constantly, and even defending that IS a bigot.
Don't want to be called a bigot? Don't be one!
Don't like gay marriage? Don't get married to someone of the same sex!
Want to be left alone about your weird beliefs? Keep them to yourself.
Don't want to be laughed at? Don't insist on constantly giving people REASONS to laugh at you!
Don't like EQUALITY? Tough shit! Endure, poor fool!
schlummieleinchen 7 months ago
Robert Knight is an ignorant, homophobic CUNT!
toddles9 11 months ago 2
"No, I don't because I think homosexuality is tragic. It takes lives early, it shortens the idea of family life..." What a scumbag zealot. No fucking clue.
kitsa42 1 year ago
I am glad so many of my Scandinavian neighbours are standing up for us :) I am glad we are so open minded and free in our countries <3
DarkTox47 1 year ago 4
What happened to seperation of church and state..? This is the argument I have the biggest problem with in the american debate on this topic. You can't define the institution of marriage through christian principles, if so, you might as well deny hindus, buddhist, bahai's, muslims the right to get married. I think the majority of european governments could teach the United States a thing or two about democracy, equal rights and freedom perhaps?
miksta1988 1 year ago 2
Karel kicks ass. Fox and CNN are chicken shit of bringing Karel back because all these pussy guest that they bring are nothing but a bunch jackoffs who do nothing but lies on camera. I think if Fox and CNN want a challenge, then they would bring Karel back otherwise these both networks have NO substances and just playing the camera. The only station that have some substance is MSNBC because of its "hard" truth and not just dancing around the rose berry bush like a bunch of children.
davewc39 1 year ago 2
Unfortunately, when you run a business within the US, you are beholden to "Caesar." Where did god come into the conversation.
gombis666 1 year ago
@gombis666 In the United States, unfortunately, god is always part of the picture.
miksta1988 1 year ago 2
Yow Karel mopped the floor with him! Woot!
ijkoszewski 1 year ago
That Robert guy was a dick. Being a Christian is fine. Letting your personal religious views get in the way of offering gays the same basic rights as everyone else is wrong.
Homosexuality is tragic?? I'll tell you what's tragic. Being so unwanted that you have to seek refuge in a group specifically named for women. I feel sorry for him.
DanAndRos 1 year ago
A dude representing "The Concerned Women for America." HAHAHA! Is there something he is not telling us?
Oh the irony.
Azriencock 1 year ago
Go Karel!
arturoO86 2 years ago
The guy is fucking liar. Scandinavia is Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Finland, and norway. Norway and Sweden both have same sex marriage since 2009 and the other 3 countries don't have it, so saying Scandinavia has same sex marriage for decades is a fucking lie.
jacquelineveronique 2 years ago 3
@jacquelineveronique I agree. I'm from Sweden and live in America. What an ass he ass. What he says happens in Scandinavia is not true.
Filifjoncan 1 year ago
@Filifjoncan
I know but many Americans talk out of their ass. Before I say something I do some research first. Scandinavia is 5 countries and each with their own government and culture and generalizing them all together is just plain dumb. Now I support same sex marriage since everyone is equal
jacquelineveronique 1 year ago
@Filifjoncan I live in Scandinavia and that is absolutely not true...
miksta1988 1 year ago
@Filifjoncan I mean, what Robert Knight said was wrong
miksta1988 1 year ago
@jacquelineveronique Same sex unions have been legalised for decades, but yes, it was a complete generalisation and completely unfair. Don't insult Scandinavian ideology and politics when you don't have the right facts. Scandinavia are a group of advanced social democracies and frankly, after only living in Denmark for one and a half years, I can understand why people are so happy to live here, aside from the ridiculous taxes. ;)
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vechorik 3 months ago
Are you gay? Or an "ex-gay"?
whyuahater3 2 years ago
Nice of Wolf to give Karel the last word . . . and what a last word! Go man go!
MercifulMing 2 years ago
Karel kicked ASS!!!
blackmetalqueer 2 years ago
karel looks like "cagney" from "cagney and lacey"
pulsatingdisco 3 years ago
Very interesting clip. They both did a wonderful job arguing their positions. I support only marriage between one man and one woman.
JeffreyBeanJr 3 years ago
you go karel let those ignorant assholes have it and youre right religion sucks
masclatin 3 years ago 3
Good Job, Karel!
5point0 3 years ago
Right On Ciou68. RAY PLEASE LEAVE YOUR MIKE ON DURING COMMERCIALS.
I used to listen to Ray once in a while when I was awake in the middle of the night, but have to turn him off because he is such a polarizing figure. He is 100 percent right, and when someone takes a difference in opinion they are 100% wrong! Any loser can rant like Karel and Ray.
KGO did the right thing by firing Karel! I may listen to them more now,
harley1932 3 years ago
Harley1932: I disagree with Karel on many things. But I still enjoyed listening to him. I talked to him a few times, too. I didn't find out about this until yesterday, because I haven't been listening to talk radio as much recently as I used to.
Do you really enjoy listening to Christine Kraft more?
JeffreyBeanJr 3 years ago
Karel, hmmmmm caught with your pant down, lolzzzzzzzz I was expecting this day to come. I just wonder when the other bigot (RAY TALIAFERRIO) will get what he deserves!!!
ciou68 3 years ago
Happy Job Hunting Karel!!! Maybe you should get some counseling in tolerance. How dare you rant for years about intolerant bigots and now you are proven to be the worst kind!
harley1932 3 years ago
I hate these religious republican assholes trying to push their beliefs on everyone else. Why would I care if my Nabors are gay? Does it make my marriage any less valuable?
Also we dont live in a theocracy stop trying to pass religious concepts into secular law. Im not a Christian and im tired of having to conform to their beliefs.
InTylerWeTrust84 3 years ago 3
HAHAHAHAHAHAH! Im Swedish and herd he was talking about Scandinavia:) and its right, all Swedes has gone homo and are now running the streets laughing too loud and dressing in pink. Its a Goodman pandemic. NOOOT! Jesus Christ whats the bit issue?! How on earth would not allowing homosexuals to marry make the homosexuality go away? Get a life of your own old man!
Mathilda90 3 years ago 3
"wrong and destructive behavior..."
I didn't know who I had sex with would destruct anything.
Lappydoo 3 years ago 2
Karel is very well spoken, and I am very impressed on how well prepared he is in the discussion.
But I can't help but notice how gay he sounds. =P
DivergentEvolution 3 years ago
it seems organized religion causes much more hate than love
orangemisfits 3 years ago 15
same with pedophilia?
Larry Kramer, the founder of ACT-UP, a noted homosexual activist group, wrote in his book, "Report from the Holocaust: The Making of an AIDS Activist": "In those instances where children do have sex with their homosexual elders, be they teachers or anyone else, I submit that often, very often, the child desires the activity, and perhaps even solicits it."
TimothyRed1990 3 years ago
That Karel know's his stuff.He does his homework and is natuarly a very smart and honest man. He is more real than the phoney nay sayers.Keep strong Karel,keep speaking for those of us who think like you do but do not have the knack to get it across. Thank you so much!!! You make the world a better place .
giantship 3 years ago
Right on Karel!
genmama1955 3 years ago
I have to say I wish they'd found a better person to represent the side in favour of gay marriage. This guy is too angry and over the top, CNN's audience won't relate well to him. I liked the interview with Dan Savage and CWA here on youtube. Even though Dan Savage is pretty radical, he presented himself well and came across as intelligent and respectable. This guy just plays into the "angry queen" stereotype.
pbrewster 3 years ago
Another MAN from the "Concerned Women for America" hate group. Hilarious.
InXanadu2 3 years ago 3
the wikipedia article references humdreds of other sources.
TimothyRed1990 4 years ago
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Its a slippery slope, when you start legitimizing sexual perversions in culture, where will it end? there are women who have sex with dogs. Will animal-human sex be the next thing they want legalized?! and what about the whole NAMBLA/LGBT thing? and after that pedophilia/pederasty rights?! polygamy? adult incest? NO! stop it now!
look up pederasty on wikipedia, its totally sanctioned by the LGBT! its even a LGBT portal!
TimothyRed1990 4 years ago
Um...I really don't know why you and others are trying to draw similarities between homosexuality and bestiality. Two consenting adults do not equal one adult and an animal who has no way to consent. That's just ONE difference.
piepiepie75 4 years ago 3
Furthermore, Wikipedia is NOT a reliable source for information. I have NEVER had a teacher or professor that allowed Wikipedia to be used as a reference for anything. In fact, most teachers make it known that Wikipedia is not to be used in research.
piepiepie75 4 years ago
....homosexuality and beastiality are nothing in common...i'm pretty sure that if two gay people got married beastiality would still be considered weird and perverted...don't compare the two...same with pedophilia
manny4life 3 years ago 3
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weird and perverted
to normal males, sex with men is just as disgusting and perverted as sex with animals.
Its like looking at dogshit,then vomit.
To us, they are both disgusting. We know they are different technically, but we have a fear and aversion to both.
Now I know there must be some feces aficionado who takes great offense to this, and cannot understand why I would even use feces and vomit in the same sentence. THEY ARE SO DIFFERENT, HE SCREAMS! but to us, its all sickening.
TimothyRed1990 3 years ago
you don't get out much, do you
andretheking86 3 years ago 3