Also, reluctance to seek help might not be because of lack of information, but precisely because of having information about how bad the "help" that psychiatrists offer is. Many people had one or more bad experiences with psychiatric treatment, so that is why they would rather not seek it again. To solve this problem, psychiatrists would have to change, and not the image the public have of them.
The image that people have that psychiatrists enjoy being coercive is quite right. Quite a number of them are like that.
Also in the video, at one point it says that it's alright to lock people up who might be a risk to others, but it also says that people should not have a stigma because of their mental illness. So, it's alright to focus on the violence of the mentally ill when it comes to have a psychiatrist lock them up, but not ok when it comes to distance ourselves from them.
Everything you said i agree with. The underlying message to those not understanding mental illness is have more patience and understanding.. Great animation
I don't think the focus is to denigrate Psychologists at all - that moment is clearly light hearted and lasts about 2 seconds - I think the focus is clearly on improving the image of Psychiatry - which has a really negative view in the media (not least due to Scientologist propaganda!).
In any case, encouraging help seeking is something that is central in this video, and I hope it's something we can all support.
The thing with Psychiatry, is that it deals with an invisable Emotional condition. Because it is an invisible condition/illness, it cannot effectively be treated.
There are a lot of Emotional illnesses that can be treated without the need for manmade chemicals, but Psychiatrists seem all too eager to just hand out pills rather than that person being considered for alternative treatment.
Most of what Psychiatrists do, is just guesswork and as such the person is actually worse off afterwards.
The thing with Psychiatry, is that it deals with an invisable Emotional condition. Because it is an invisible condition/illness, it cannot effectively be treated.
There are a lot of Emotional illnesses that can be treated without the need for manmade chemicals, but Psychiatrists seem all too eager to just hand out pills rather than that person being considered for alternative treatment.
Most of what Psychiatrists do, is just guesswork and as such the person is actually worse off afterwards.
Most psychiatrists are sadists and psychopaths, hungry for money and the power over others and gaining joy out of torturing helpless people and destroying their lifes. Those who are not, quit psychiatry after realizing what a ball full of .... it iis
Really liked this short (though I agree with the other commenters that the bits about psychologists should be re-written). Posted it on Shrink Rap. Thanks.
I liked the video and can relate to it being a psychiatrist myself (and WITH a doctorate), but the clip really falls into prejudice when portraiting psychologists and GPs. Also, the punch on the psychologist's face was totally unnecessary. One of the major problems of Psychiatry in my country is finding real life collaboration between psychiatrists, psychologists and GPS. That could only happen in a really friendly and non-corporative environment.
Nice idea Kamran but as a medical student interested in psychiatry this is a bit embarrassing and only serves to turn me away from it. As others have remarked, trying to rid psychiatry of its stigma will not be helped by stereotyping other professions. No Kamran, psychologists haven't gone to medical school which is all the more reason for working with them. The perspective and knowledge they can offer are an arguable pretty essential challenge to the blind spots of our paradigm.
Great Video! Very funny and gets to the point highlighting some of the good work that psychiatrists do and often don't get more widely recognised for.
I think that it's ridiculous that you're trying to dispel pejorative myths about psychiatry yet you are happy to perpetuate those myths about psychologists. The best bit was probably where the psychiatrist punched the psychologist in the face in order to make the point that psychologists aren't proper doctors... Psychologists are very important in the fight against mental ill-health, it's psychologists that actually talk to patients (rather than just throwing drugs at the problem).
I am sorry, but I have never met any psychiatrist like the one described in the clip. I am a Clinical Psychologist and work with them every day...and still waiting for one that even closely resembles the one described. The standard psychiatric interview is 15min...? For those interested in the truth about psychiatry in practice read Richard Bentall's book Doctoring the Mind - Why Psychiatric Treatments Fail
@scarecrowblohm Wow - where on earth do you practice? Where I am it's exceptionally rare to have a psychiatric consultation less than half an hour! Most take 30-45 minutes. I have observed many fantastic psychiatrists, most of whom DO resemble the doctor in this clip. And yes, I have seen with my own eyes the proof that psychiatric treatments do indeed work.
@fireandice027 I am also a patient. My _psychiatrist_ visits are scheduled for 15 minutes each. My _counseling psychologist_ visits are scheduled for an hour. Fortunately they coordinate, instead of one punching the other in the face.
I am sorry, but I have never met any psychiatrist like the one described in the clip. I am a Clinical Psychologist and work with them every day...and still waiting for one that even closely resembles the one described. The standard psychiatric interview is 15min...? For those interested in the truth about psychiatry in practice read Richard Bentall's book Doctoring the Mind - Why Psychiatric Treatments Fail
@scarecrowblohm i am working with a psychiatrist who very much fits the image presented in the video. She is well read, deeply caring and preeminently practical, and sees me for 45 minutes three times a week. The problem is more socioeconomic than it is professional. My treatment costs $750/week, not a penny of which is underwritten by insurance or any social institution other my family's estate. Perhaps liberating society from the stigma of mental illness might liberate the funds necessary.
@mlivingston2011 what, exactly, is ill-informed about it? Let's start simple. Is a disease merely a collection of symptoms? No. Can every patient suffering the same symptoms be assumed to be suffering from the same disease? No. Is treating the symptoms the same thing as treating the disease? No. Does psychiatry do all these things, under the auspices of medicine? Yes.
@adinahwithkaden Symptoms are the window into the dysfunctional mind, and the brain behind it. Each layer feeds upon and is fed upon by the other two, as well as other elements of itself. Psychiatric medications that target symptoms are directly targeting the affected organ. And so, enter into the mind, symptom, brain trinity and, inevitably, impact upon the illness itself. An analogy that ignores this inter-connectivity cannot be an apt one.
I'm all for tearing down stereotypes of psychiatry, but you promote similar stereotypes of psychologists--i.e. mustached and smoking a pipe is hardly different than beards and bow ties. Then your character bowls the psychologist over to show everyone that you have a REAL doctorate. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
i think any efforts to change the mental health system have to follow a public apoplogy to mental health patients and their families(who often acted out of the guidance of the system) if only they would acknowledge the system has been at fault, instead of dumping the fault on the patients, families and general public.
if you had decided to become a real doctor, you might have gotten the ladies. now you have to lock them up, drug them and tie them to the bed to get them to have anything to do with you.
@PKA not even close, but thanks for illustrating the most pathetic defense. Psychiatry has made no CLINICAL advances: meaning, it still amounts to "based on these behaviors, you have x disorder". Well, not everyone who has to pee a lot and is thirsty has diabetes. All the research in the world hasn't resulted in a single clinical advance.
In other words, the drugs have no known mechanism of action beyond changing how a person feels or behaves. And they are treating conditions which are not proven medical problems, with no clinical advances in 200 years, and outcomes that have gotten steadily worse.
In psychiatry, the only "therapeutic" effect is changing how a person feels. For example, if a person is depressed, they are given drugs to lift their mood. In other fields of medicine, the target of efficacy is some observed clinical measure (such as bringing blood glucose levels below 120), not making someone feel better. A street dealer can do that, doesn't mean they're treating a disease, either.
I really like this and would like to show it in my classes. I particularly like the comments on stigma of those with mental illness. However, I am a psychologist and I am, in fact, a doctor. Just as real as the psychiatrist. The only thing I can't do is prescribe meds. That is my only complaint with this presentation.
@jgh33jgh I'm assuming the term 'doctor' in this context refers to Medical Doctor, which you are not. You may be a doctor of Psychology, which is great, but you're not an M.D.
Also, reluctance to seek help might not be because of lack of information, but precisely because of having information about how bad the "help" that psychiatrists offer is. Many people had one or more bad experiences with psychiatric treatment, so that is why they would rather not seek it again. To solve this problem, psychiatrists would have to change, and not the image the public have of them.
suarez976 2 months ago
The image that people have that psychiatrists enjoy being coercive is quite right. Quite a number of them are like that.
Also in the video, at one point it says that it's alright to lock people up who might be a risk to others, but it also says that people should not have a stigma because of their mental illness. So, it's alright to focus on the violence of the mentally ill when it comes to have a psychiatrist lock them up, but not ok when it comes to distance ourselves from them.
suarez976 2 months ago
5 people refuse to get help
TheGiftofvision 4 months ago
Everything you said i agree with. The underlying message to those not understanding mental illness is have more patience and understanding.. Great animation
phoebs50 5 months ago
I don't think the focus is to denigrate Psychologists at all - that moment is clearly light hearted and lasts about 2 seconds - I think the focus is clearly on improving the image of Psychiatry - which has a really negative view in the media (not least due to Scientologist propaganda!).
In any case, encouraging help seeking is something that is central in this video, and I hope it's something we can all support.
rizmc 5 months ago
heavy little short!... shared
Green786Ranger 5 months ago
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The thing with Psychiatry, is that it deals with an invisable Emotional condition. Because it is an invisible condition/illness, it cannot effectively be treated.
There are a lot of Emotional illnesses that can be treated without the need for manmade chemicals, but Psychiatrists seem all too eager to just hand out pills rather than that person being considered for alternative treatment.
Most of what Psychiatrists do, is just guesswork and as such the person is actually worse off afterwards.
eggywebb2007 5 months ago
The thing with Psychiatry, is that it deals with an invisable Emotional condition. Because it is an invisible condition/illness, it cannot effectively be treated.
There are a lot of Emotional illnesses that can be treated without the need for manmade chemicals, but Psychiatrists seem all too eager to just hand out pills rather than that person being considered for alternative treatment.
Most of what Psychiatrists do, is just guesswork and as such the person is actually worse off afterwards.
eggywebb2007 5 months ago
Most psychiatrists are sadists and psychopaths, hungry for money and the power over others and gaining joy out of torturing helpless people and destroying their lifes. Those who are not, quit psychiatry after realizing what a ball full of .... it iis
TheChembalin 7 months ago
true psychiatry is not a real medicine
TheChembalin 7 months ago
Really liked this short (though I agree with the other commenters that the bits about psychologists should be re-written). Posted it on Shrink Rap. Thanks.
shrinkraproy 7 months ago
I liked the video and can relate to it being a psychiatrist myself (and WITH a doctorate), but the clip really falls into prejudice when portraiting psychologists and GPs. Also, the punch on the psychologist's face was totally unnecessary. One of the major problems of Psychiatry in my country is finding real life collaboration between psychiatrists, psychologists and GPS. That could only happen in a really friendly and non-corporative environment.
sipahudu 8 months ago
Nice idea Kamran but as a medical student interested in psychiatry this is a bit embarrassing and only serves to turn me away from it. As others have remarked, trying to rid psychiatry of its stigma will not be helped by stereotyping other professions. No Kamran, psychologists haven't gone to medical school which is all the more reason for working with them. The perspective and knowledge they can offer are an arguable pretty essential challenge to the blind spots of our paradigm.
Juanmartellable 8 months ago 3
Great Video! Very funny and gets to the point highlighting some of the good work that psychiatrists do and often don't get more widely recognised for.
TAWOPChannel 8 months ago
I think that it's ridiculous that you're trying to dispel pejorative myths about psychiatry yet you are happy to perpetuate those myths about psychologists. The best bit was probably where the psychiatrist punched the psychologist in the face in order to make the point that psychologists aren't proper doctors... Psychologists are very important in the fight against mental ill-health, it's psychologists that actually talk to patients (rather than just throwing drugs at the problem).
intricatesin 8 months ago 4
Bowties are cool.
tauceti1234 8 months ago 2
I am sorry, but I have never met any psychiatrist like the one described in the clip. I am a Clinical Psychologist and work with them every day...and still waiting for one that even closely resembles the one described. The standard psychiatric interview is 15min...? For those interested in the truth about psychiatry in practice read Richard Bentall's book Doctoring the Mind - Why Psychiatric Treatments Fail
scarecrowblohm 8 months ago
@scarecrowblohm Wow - where on earth do you practice? Where I am it's exceptionally rare to have a psychiatric consultation less than half an hour! Most take 30-45 minutes. I have observed many fantastic psychiatrists, most of whom DO resemble the doctor in this clip. And yes, I have seen with my own eyes the proof that psychiatric treatments do indeed work.
fireandice027 7 months ago
@fireandice027 I am also a patient. My _psychiatrist_ visits are scheduled for 15 minutes each. My _counseling psychologist_ visits are scheduled for an hour. Fortunately they coordinate, instead of one punching the other in the face.
DeepShadow89 4 months ago
I am sorry, but I have never met any psychiatrist like the one described in the clip. I am a Clinical Psychologist and work with them every day...and still waiting for one that even closely resembles the one described. The standard psychiatric interview is 15min...? For those interested in the truth about psychiatry in practice read Richard Bentall's book Doctoring the Mind - Why Psychiatric Treatments Fail
scarecrowblohm 8 months ago
@scarecrowblohm i am working with a psychiatrist who very much fits the image presented in the video. She is well read, deeply caring and preeminently practical, and sees me for 45 minutes three times a week. The problem is more socioeconomic than it is professional. My treatment costs $750/week, not a penny of which is underwritten by insurance or any social institution other my family's estate. Perhaps liberating society from the stigma of mental illness might liberate the funds necessary.
RebellionReason 7 months ago
@mlivingston2011 what, exactly, is ill-informed about it? Let's start simple. Is a disease merely a collection of symptoms? No. Can every patient suffering the same symptoms be assumed to be suffering from the same disease? No. Is treating the symptoms the same thing as treating the disease? No. Does psychiatry do all these things, under the auspices of medicine? Yes.
adinahwithkaden 8 months ago
@adinahwithkaden Symptoms are the window into the dysfunctional mind, and the brain behind it. Each layer feeds upon and is fed upon by the other two, as well as other elements of itself. Psychiatric medications that target symptoms are directly targeting the affected organ. And so, enter into the mind, symptom, brain trinity and, inevitably, impact upon the illness itself. An analogy that ignores this inter-connectivity cannot be an apt one.
RebellionReason 7 months ago
Thank you for helping to overcome stigma!
saulocastor 8 months ago
I'm all for tearing down stereotypes of psychiatry, but you promote similar stereotypes of psychologists--i.e. mustached and smoking a pipe is hardly different than beards and bow ties. Then your character bowls the psychologist over to show everyone that you have a REAL doctorate. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
DeepShadow89 8 months ago 14
wow. love this video. i especially love the part reminding ppl that we went to medical school
Bulumko24 8 months ago
i think any efforts to change the mental health system have to follow a public apoplogy to mental health patients and their families(who often acted out of the guidance of the system) if only they would acknowledge the system has been at fault, instead of dumping the fault on the patients, families and general public.
MsJuliehelen 8 months ago
Is there a way I could make spanish subtitles for this video?
Ryder78 8 months ago
Great animation and voiceover, but the job does not sound that rewarding
nearlydunn 8 months ago
if you had decided to become a real doctor, you might have gotten the ladies. now you have to lock them up, drug them and tie them to the bed to get them to have anything to do with you.
namidearest 8 months ago
this makes me want to puke.
namidearest 8 months ago
@PKA not even close, but thanks for illustrating the most pathetic defense. Psychiatry has made no CLINICAL advances: meaning, it still amounts to "based on these behaviors, you have x disorder". Well, not everyone who has to pee a lot and is thirsty has diabetes. All the research in the world hasn't resulted in a single clinical advance.
adinahwithkaden 8 months ago
Bowties are cool
Codicosica 8 months ago
In other words, the drugs have no known mechanism of action beyond changing how a person feels or behaves. And they are treating conditions which are not proven medical problems, with no clinical advances in 200 years, and outcomes that have gotten steadily worse.
adinahwithkaden 8 months ago
@adinahwithkaden You mean to say that psychiatric medicine hasn't advanced whatsoever since the 1800s? You must be a scientologist.
PKATrain 8 months ago
@PKATrain
You must be on psych drugs.
namidearest 8 months ago
@adinahwithkaden Speaking of prejudice... that is most ill-informed youtube rant I have ever seen.
mlivingston2011 8 months ago
@adinahwithkaden Speaking of prejudice... that is most ill-informed youtube rant I have ever seen.
mlivingston2011 8 months ago
In psychiatry, the only "therapeutic" effect is changing how a person feels. For example, if a person is depressed, they are given drugs to lift their mood. In other fields of medicine, the target of efficacy is some observed clinical measure (such as bringing blood glucose levels below 120), not making someone feel better. A street dealer can do that, doesn't mean they're treating a disease, either.
adinahwithkaden 8 months ago
Umm... don't all doctors throw medicine at problems? Ten points for critical thinking!
propesh1 8 months ago 3
Sorry, psychiatry isn't real medicine. Throwing drugs at people to change how they feel is what drug dealers do
adinahwithkaden 8 months ago
I really like this and would like to show it in my classes. I particularly like the comments on stigma of those with mental illness. However, I am a psychologist and I am, in fact, a doctor. Just as real as the psychiatrist. The only thing I can't do is prescribe meds. That is my only complaint with this presentation.
jgh33jgh 8 months ago 11
@jgh33jgh I'm assuming the term 'doctor' in this context refers to Medical Doctor, which you are not. You may be a doctor of Psychology, which is great, but you're not an M.D.
PKATrain 8 months ago