SAVATE vs. KICKBOXING,MUAY THAI (сават против кикбоксинга,муай тай)

[RobMarx23]

Place Buakaw against this black guy then i'll agree its Thai vs Savate. :)

[bm2309]

Nice fight!

[TheUfchink]

U sure that's Zambidis? I dunno all whiteys look kindda same to me . But dude that's not muaythai this style is call muaynegro

[marion9397]

C'est n'importe quoi les combats entre des discipline si différente puisque les combattant n'ont pas les même règles

[concombresalade]

C'est mieux sans les commentaires) ^^

[fromstart2finish]

Muay Thai tends to have palms facing outward, standup wrestling and favors kicks to the head or thigh

Savate has normal boxing stance and has elments of judo and kicks to the achilles tendon are specials

[vaporizer13]

The Huay thai fighter woulda won had he been able to use knees

[vathaniel]

I was able to see the difference right away. Savate fighters seem to be more liberated in the ring. In my opinion, Savate is the Jun Fan Gung Fu of kickboxing. The applications is set for the street. They wear shoes for toe kicks... think about it.

[mrcharles007]

is that mike lambidis?

[moxigen]

no one wears boots so it´s not savate!

[lapourda]

MIKE ZAMBIDIS (the guy who lost) = kickboxer ,the best kickboxer in the world actually!

[julio26789]

muay thai without elbows and knees is just kickboxing why call it muay thai.

[HowToMarket]

@julio26789 True. Once you restrict a style then you're no longer fighting agains the actual style.

I rate both Muay Thai and savate. However, the only way to rate the two is to allow full use of both their individual weapons. Restrict elbows and knees of MT and you're no longer fighting against a MT practitioner.

It's like saying the savate guy isn't allowed to use savate kicks.

[dragonfist25]

@HowToMarket solid points

[sabihiqbal]

@julio26789 Exactly.

[TheLjc77]

No grappling, no knees no elbows. One kickboxer in blue shorts, one kickboxer in white shorts.

[dss103]

LOl more like Savate vs Boxing! The dude barely kicked

[MrLibero1991]

tunisie terre de sérénité! ahaahahha

[eman100ism]

да, это не выйгрыш!Mike ZAMBIDIS крассава, как всегда выкладывался в своих боях на все 100 %.

[MartialValor]

Dosent look like savate. It's change to the point that its just muaythai. Not to mention he is HUGEEE like bullying a kid. Not to mention he is wearing thai shorts instead of the homo jump suit.

[MartialValor]

Dosent look like savate. It's change to the point that its just muaythai. Not to mention he is HUGEEE like bullying a kid.

[cosacosi1]

but savate without shoes is really like kick, full or muay thai, cause you cant hit properly without hurting you your foot, thats why they use a shoe, like the old savate from the city of Marseille, and thaths from my point of view the most powerful weapon of savate the mix between leg kick and shoe... whats more I didnt see any " chaussé bas" de la part du savate man.

[AntiKremlin]

Странно, саватер весь бой огребал и вдруг победил. Наверное, кикер руку сломал об его башку))

[Petburg]

@AntiKremlin Возможно и сломал бы руку, если бы хотя бы раз в него попал!))) Руки коротковаты оказались)))

[RexBaselio]

Guys I trained Boxe Savate and a little bit of muay thai. It is very wrong conception to say Savate VS Muay Thai. It is fight between two people . You cant measure by that criterria. Second thing , the savate fighter wasnt able to use tip of his toe nor was he able to use side kicks which are very important in Savat. The muay thai fighter wasnt able to use knees or elbows or flying strikes. So what are we talking about?You can only point out unique sport characteristics when u are able use them.

[scancio7]

You cant make a savate vs other style if they dont have their steel toe boots. WTF!??!!?

[tadorjee]

Savate must be allowed in savate dress and savate shoes.Here Savate fight have disadvantage as they were not use to fight with bare foot.

[bob23yer]

What I don't understand is how you see the difference between kickboxing, Mhuay Tahi, Savate, Full Contact or whatever. For me they all just throw punches and kicks toward eachother untill one of them falls down. It all looks the same. Like in this vid...how do you see who is the savateman and the mhuay thai man? What's the difference?

[Petburg]

@bob23yer Distinction in tactics of fight and technics of blows by feet.

[StruhDaehYm]

@bob23yer in muay thai you beat your opponent to pulp primarily with elbows and knees, in savate you do it primarily with heavy eighteenth century boots. (here both is banned, alas)

[kevinjb7]

@bob23yer Range is one easy thing to look for. You'll see Savate kicks thrown from mainly outside punching range while Muay Thai kicks are generally within punching range. The replay at 3:09 is a decent example. The Savateur kicks from outside punching range and the MT fighter throws a punch to close the distance before kicking. Also, you'll often see Savate kicks landing with the top of the foot (or toe with Savate shoes on), and MT kicks landing with more of the shin. Hope this helps.

[MrCod18]

@bob23yer That is not thai boxing thats just regular kickboxing

[Mider999]

@bob23yer There is a diffrence. In the beginning Kickboxing didnt have elbows i think. Muay Thai did have elbows, and there kicks have more distrinction using shin bones and they probably have diffrent training. They say Benny the Jet invented Kickboxing, Muay Thai is an offshot of krabi Krabong from Thai Lang, Savate is not as old and from Paris and more long range then then Muay thai and was invented as a form of self defense when carring guns and weapons was outlawed

[MartialartsDog]

@Mider999 Actually Historical EUropean Martial arts show that the Gauls and Medieval Knights used Savate style kicks in their martial arts as ancient manuals show.Savate is about as old as Muay Thai if we count the older and now lost French martial arts of the Middle Ages and Roman period(which according to historical texts used kicks that look Savate with hard footware on).

Also Muay Thai as we see today is completely different from Muay Thai of the ancient ages.

[Mider999]

@MartialartsDog I doubt anyone has really invented a new way of kicking i think that the old fashioned muay thai used in war was called Krabi Krabong

[MartialartsDog]

@Mider999 Agreed-all martial art styles today are just watered down versions of their original self defense and military styles.

[fineliner79]

@bob23yer there's lots of subtleties in technique and tactics for each style, for example the way they strike their roundhouse kicks,thai's with the shin,savate with the instep.

Another example is Thais generally have a more square stance,sometimes have more open guard because they like to grab kicks,as opposed to kick boxers who have a more narrow stance.

Things like how they guard when throwing kicks,slip and block punches etc all differ,guess to average person its hard to pick up.

[flysnake12]

@bob23yer you can tell by stance and the way they hit

[flipchuck]

@bob23yer

Different styles have different ways of kicking and punching. For example, Muy thai roundhouse kick is hit with the front part of the shin. Savate roundhouse kicks are hit with the top part of the foot. Fighting stances are also different between each styles.

[linnonjon]

@bob23yer Infact I don't have seen the muay thaier one

[agimcomas]

@bob23yer The difference lies within the training, but once on the ring, there are no styles, only fighters. Also, the rules of savate are different from those of Muay Thai. In essence, no elbows or knees.

[Petburg]

@agimcomas

The main difference, in countering the speed and power, and the onslaught of the game. The main difference is in the same working distance.

[ArismeTal1990]

@agimcomas Well, actually Savate also has elbow and knee strikes

[TheEidolon7]

@bob23yer Actually, the main way we see the difference is in cultural expression. Each style is influenced by cultural dance, environment and weapons footwork, in addition to what the others mentioned. All martial arts contain the same basic recipe, they are just expressed differently and certain aspects are given more or less attention sometimes.

[bushidoartss]

@bob23yer muay thai is not kickboxing or savate..muay thai is about clinch elbow knees,,thats why savate or kickboxing weaker then muay thai.in this video no muay thai just 2 kickboxers.

[cwmyr]

@bob23yer:

basically its like this:

1.Savate roundhousekicks hit with the toe, Muay Thai roundhouse kicks with the shin.

2.Savate "teeps" (=chasse) do more chambering than muay thai teeps.

3.Savate fighters fight from a greater distance and use more agility.

Muay Thai fighters block kicks with their shins instead of dodging them.

cons of savate: toe kicks dont work well without shoes (savate fighters were boots)

no takedowns and leg grappling

pros of savate: awesome footwork and precision

[aiyer1989]

@cwmyr Nice post, though I wouldn't call toe kicks a negative thing. Truth is that when you're wearing shoes, the toe kick does more damage. (Greater rotational speed and smaller point of contact. And a greater reach as well). However, if you don't wear shoes, you're gonna bust your toes up. But, in a street setting (yes, I know it's the old street argument) how often are you going to be without shoes? So while it's a disadvantageinthe ring, I'd say it's a plus towards self defence.

[aiyer1989]

@cwmyr Also, savate uses checks as well though just like muay thai does though most savateurs will dodge when given the chance. It's the footwork speaking.

[thomas007]

@cwmyr Savateurs are known to slip their kicks through MT fighters guards. Both systems are good but Savate in my opinion has superior footwork and reach/precision.

[McBeastyCakes]

@bob23yer Muay Thai is also a little more loose with thier technique and they relax a little when they throw punches.

[pablocoon]

@bob23yer There is slew of differences actually, the techniques for striking are different.



[Lunartrek]

@bob23yer It takes having some knowledge of some of the common combinations and striking techniques that each style uses. It's not always easy to tell, it's true, but the more you know about a given style the easier it becomes to pick it out in a fight. That said, once most fighters start to become fatigued, style takes a back seat and it becomes more of a brawl which always just looks like human ferocity.

[frenchtoastmafia21]

@bob23yer the shorts are different lol

[nununu072]

It's not real MUAY THAI !!!

MUAY THAI is not Kick Boxing !!!

real MUAY THAI ... search --->> "BUAKAW" on youtube !!!

[MrLibero1991]

@nununu072 SAVATE VS MUAY THAI in kick boxing fighting, obviousley. we know that's neither true savate nor thai!

[chicabobica]

Damn blue trunks took a lot of hits and never wanted to go down. I think he was the tougher fighter.

[atamarfei]

I can't understand what fight did some of you guys watch. Coward? Superiority of savate? God gracious! The Frenchman was drained of gas due to body punches after the first round and all the rest of the fight was more or less nailed to the ropes struggling for dear life. Then the reputedly miserable french refereeing steps in to save the "valiant" champion and invents a TKO for the smallest cut haveing been seen in a pro fight. This is an example of how kickboxing should not be managed...

[Jamiharriskarmakka]

dude if you get ramon dekker at A.zankifo A.Zankifo wouldnt get a kick whe ramon getted em K0

[megadomonic]

I wouldn't say this guy was being a coward, but more like he was really trying to stay on his toes and watch the other dude's movements. Savate ain't as highly known as other arts are, but it can seriously demolish a person who doesn't pay attention.

[Eact84]

the guy in blue is practiclly boxing , he uses some few useless kicks. His punching did all the work. Am sure that a boxer would of nok him down real quick.

[skiesju]

Already bored before 2 minutes. Zambidis is a coward, he should give up kickboxing and take up plain boxing.

[Petburg]

@skiesju

Why the coward? Zambidis fought as could.

[skiesju]

@Petburg About the "coward" comment: he's always backing out and trying but failing to counter because he backed out too far out of range of Zankifo trying to avoid getting hit. The "give up kickboxing for plain boxing" doesn't need to be explained, you can count his kicks with one hand.

[atamarfei]

@skiesju

This is pro kickboxing. Punches score as much as kicks. When you have a southpaw with long reach kicking just to make a good impression to the public can be the worst idea. And if you count connected blows and observe damage taken the "great" savate champion had the toughest time of his life before being saved by a stupid ref decision.

[Petburg]

@atamarfei

I apologize you what fight looked? Zambidis went rectilinearly forward and received.)

[HealthGym]

Zambidis è un campione come tutti coloro che sono andati al k 1 ma per me ha un difetto : tira sempre colpi singoli cercando la soluzione nella potenza e in questo caso ha trovato un signor avversario che grazie allo stile di provenienza lo ha surclassato . A dimostrazione che chi arriva dalla savate può far tutti gli stili affini senza difficoltà...

[kabyle93450]

zankifo l ile saint denis aie aie aie

[jemakdemir]

LOL fuck off you noob... Look at his blood.

[Asterion21]

Awsome fight. Zambidis has awesome hands and is great in the pocket. The savate guy has nice kicks and looks cool!

[agostinho1234]

nice demonstration of how good savate is and should be feared and respected

[Vichter3]

@agostinho1234 Bullshit, let Muay Thai kickboxer use all armoury and will change your mind.

[agostinho1234]

@Vichter3 i'm already a muay thai black belt and red glove in savate. Just saying that this martial art should be respected like any other. That's not about "whhich one is better" thing. :)

[bushidoartss]

@agostinho1234 muay thai black belt? so stupid muay thai does not have any belt system. they do not have belt at all..should western countrys turned muay thai to business as karate and selling belts to stupid people,,

[agostinho1234]

@bushidoartss yeah, yeah. chill out man, you are the guy!

hahahaha