Screw the constant inculcated BULLSHIT of the last 20+ years. We're taking away just about everything you ever knew for generations, the world is deliberately set in disarray like never previously, but of course, we CARE about your safety... whilst we wipe out your jobs FOREVER and leave you in ever-deepening shit.
This has gone WAY too far already. Technology is no longer interesting and helpful.
@bootyjudie "Im ready for prosperity and a vacation! Welcome Frida! No more labor and more creating from the heart! The future is now!"
You'll NEVER be given freedom and prosperity. This kind of talk began over thirty years back, and since then, the absolute opposite has been happening in the developed world.
The NWO won't "give" people anything. Look around - everything is being taken AWAY.
The future is NOT bright, and almost every technological advance is darkening it further.
Does anybody happen to know the name of the tune in the background? According to ABB, it's "Do you want me", but they could not provide me the artist...
After reviewing many of these comments, I am wondering just what you are all going to be living on while the robots have replaced you in the workplace? Trying to envision a world without some means of trade or exchange is not easy. While you are doing nothing and earning nothing, what is your means of purchasing what you need to exist? There is no such thing as a "free ride".
@02bin3 I'm hoping that once we reach sustainability, then what we have is EXACTLY a free ride. There are only two things humanity needs -a habitable environment that supports our bodies (earth or some other planet) and an energy source (such as the sun). Trade and exchange is the mechanism to reach sustainability. Hopefully by then, humanity will have become a global society and will have conquered individual greed because there would be no reason to want more for yourself over anyone else.
@TakeItFromThere I'm sorry you feel I'm condescending and arrogant. I was hoping to generate debate with others, not make them feel small. Anyone is free to engage debate with anyone in the public domain of the internet and sometimes you get bitten. It's hard to measure someones intent without a tone of voice here. I believe by generating debate I'm doing quite opposite of a police state...
This robot looks a lot more functional than the one taxpayers paid for and sent to the space station. Seriously, just buy one of these and you have the system for probably 1/1000th the cost of the NASA robot price? Robonaut (the NASA robot) admittedly looks a bit cooler though.
@TakeItFromThere If you don't embrace tech you will literally become obsolete and too expensive to run yourselves. That means more job losses. Employment is dynamic not static. If jobs were not created and destroyed over time then humanity would have no progression. Even the steam engine replaced workers! Go and live with the amish people if you're still convinced people losing these jobs to robots is a bad thing. You don't wish to pay taxes to build your own country? ignorance is bliss.
@TakeItFromThere Where I come from there is plenty of welfare support to give those looking for a new job some dignity. If you're worried, I suggest your country start working on their own welfare system then. I can only speak from my home country's position. I'm sorry if yours is more dire.
@TakeItFromThere so let me get this straight. you want your fellow americans given their crappy factory jobs back from china? I think there's no question about there being more opportunities and freedoms in america vs. china or mexico. Offshoring those jobs has certainly helped you guys innovate and develop world leading technologies that CREATE NEW JOBS. same thing will happen with robots. get creative mate. the biggest killer of employment these days has been the GFC, not new technology.
@StupidPeasant i think don't understand your point. exponential change is very natural. human population expansion is a great example of that. and we seemed to have managed our own exponential growth just fine. Plagues are exponential and so are flu epidemics. yet here humans are beating chaos every day. bring it on.
@TakeItFromThere It's called redundancy compensation. Money to fund yourself while you find a new job because you're no longer needed at the old one. If you can't be replaced, you'll never get promoted. And when big businesses make money, they have the ability to spend more money on creating new jobs and to perform new research and development. Sure, some businesses are greedy and the CEO's are the ones who take the profit. Greed is a flaw in humans, not in using robots as a workhorses
@Jotto999, good point about laborious jobs, however, those people will need a job of some kind. There will be a lot of trouble in the transition of the next 20 years.
@StupidPeasant trouble that is natural to progressing society. It was the same when computers started popping up everywhere. people soon got used to them and learned how to use them. Humans are adaptable creatures - that's just one of many things that makes us far better and far more versatile than robots.
@jaydavey9 , Robots will someday adapt so fast, humans will not be able to comprehend what is happening. But we won't need to. By that time we will have many robotic parts within us. We may live for hundreds of years. There will have to form a new kind of economy and governments, if at all. It will be wonderful, if we get through the transition period with out killing each other.
2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x= a very fast computer in 30 years.
There will be a great economic displacement as we transition to the super advanced future. "They" know it's coming. A row of these robots will be able to build a row of these robots. They will stock the shelves. IBM's Watson will answer the phone. The millions out of work will have time to think of new things to do;,,,, like kill robots instead of just each other. The Singularity Is Near and it might hurt for awhile. I have not heard any serious economist on the subject.
@Jotto999 Tell me what you do for a living, and I will give you an estimate of how long it will take for someone to develop an automated system to replace you...
@wbaltzley I'm in the process of learning foreign currency exchange trading.
Which could easily be automated, and in fact often already is. Fortunately, it's my own money I'm throwing around, and equity markets will change but won't vanish just because the money is being traded by programs. Still though, it's definitely becoming automated already.
The reason I desire laborious jobs to be automated is because I don't like seeing my fellow humans having to do them.
looks promising. I really think there should be more focus on getting the robots to move faster, I don't see progress in that area as impossible, we just need new methods.
@seanotube85 As the most intelligent beings on the planet there comes a time where we need to begin phasing humans out of every day tasks so they can rise to something greater. As long as it doesn't happen all at once the human race will be better for it.
@seanotube85 humans are valued for much more than their intelligence. love, compassion, empathy, hope, loyalty and friendship to name a few. you're somebody's daughter or somebody's son. somebody's sister or brother. what is a robot to a human? an engineered slave. humans are valued for much more than their intelligence. robots do not have genes or family.
@jaydavey9 Well, yes, you're most certainly right. I was only spinning that sentence off of your previous comment. And what I meant by it is that some humans don't value human life. If they did, the world would be a better place already. I'm not suggesting we try to wipe those humans out or anything like it. I'm only suggesting that the problem is a little more complicated than just building robots to do all our jobs for us... or is it?... *hands off debate baton*
I personally can't wait to see a world run by robots with humans on constant vacation. At least robots have the potential to reduce the stupidly fast pace this world runs at. Everyone could have the opportunity work because they choose to, not work because they have to. As for the money, a robotic work forces does exactly that. It saves you money. So, replace yourself with a robot if you can, and use the money you save to live and spend time with family/friends and hobbies.
@jaydavey9 I think. like you said, that robots will do those dirty/ hard works we human have trouble to do, and that will allow us to expect better paid, high end jobs, more about taking decisions, than ACT upon them.
@iurak6868 who is to say that automation will only extend to dirty, nasty jobs that "nobody" wants to do? We have made great advances in A.I. in the past few years. We are rapidly developing systems that can conduct research and make decisions using past data to predict future events.
Some people predict that we will eliminate paralegals and stock-traders within a few years. Google is developing automated driving systems...where will it end?
@jaydavey9 Statisticians design the models with some assistance from professionals. Programmers then translate the models into code. Neither one cares about the affects it will have on others--only that they get paid for doing their job.
@jaydavey9 Prices are determined by supply and demand. While our population continues to increase, demands on our resources go up, and we are forced to be more productive to pay higher living costs. I'm concerned that robotics won't slow down the pace of life, would just enable going even faster...
...until we manage to stop increasing our living costs.
@FriendlyHugo I can't speak for any other modern societies but in Australia the total fertility rate is below the replacement levels. The only reason Australia's population is increasing is due to the high amounts of migration from other countries. I believe modern society's general trend is in reducing population. This is largely due to the advancements in industry/automation that has allowed us to increase our standard of living, instead of relying on larger families to support ourselves.
@jaydavey9 True. It's just the "third world" that still needs to catch up with this trend... At some point we will actually have the problem of a shrinking labour force - robots will be a particularly useful solution then.
Peeking at File:Population_growth_rate_world.PNG on wikipedia I notice estimates for South Africa (where I'm from) also claim negative growth - in this case it's primarily caused by AIDS. :-/
@jaydavey9 in an ideal world this would work, but since such robots run anywhere from $100,000 to $1 Million USD, it is unlikely that the average person will be able to afford one. They will likely be purchased and deployed by businesses to replace their workers. This would result in mass unemployment, poverty, and greater inequality.
@wbaltzley Your estimates at the costs of robots are grossly over estimated. Most people have robots in their homes already and they are extremely affordable. Industrial robots are cheap as chips compared to paying salaries, sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, paying for people to sleep, eat and all those labor shortcomings.
Industrial robots can be much cheaper than $100,000. Also, if the price of computers are anything to go by, robots will be more powerful and affordable for less
@jaydavey9 sorry, it has been about 13 years since I last checked prices on industrial robots. Yes, prices have been greatly reduced since then. According to Wikipedia an industrial robot runs anywhere from $7,000 to $100,000 USD. This is just on the edge of what the average person can afford (with financing).
However, you made my point for me--manufacturers will use these robots to replace workers
@ImporTz Of all the promises robotics can bring us, it's a shame you cannot grant robots any credit. Like renewable energy, some people think it's all 'fundamentally flawed' because the carbon footprint of producing renewable energy was supposedly greater than what it can save in the long run. And now it turns out we can produce solar panels with a smaller carbon footprint than using fossil fuels. Robotics, like renewable enegry is a challenging change. But it's not fundamentally flawed.
It will never happen, Hell look up the Venus project. They want something similar, granted they want to do away with property, money, and many freedoms they deem un-necessary.
Ah, no. Only the rich, the very rich will benefit from a robotic workforce. Will humanity be better off? probably, but individuals will find it very hard transitioning.
@djsuperstar717 there is allways something to do my friend, haven't you though that all those robots might need repair? or spare part? what about fuel? what about those that just don't like to keep a robot for a very long time? don't be so pesimistic. In the 1920 people though that machines would replace man, and they did in many things, but those same people found other better ways to make money.
@iurak6868 The pace of change is accelerating. In the 1920's a lot of people did go without work as the economy changed from an agriculture base to an industrial one (I think that we'll find this was one of the causes of the Great Depression). With technology accelerating roughly 15% per year knowledge learned in school becomes obsolete in about 4.5 years (the time it takes technology to double). This does have very severe effects on jobs.
@iurak6868 People did not recover from the 1920's until the New Deal created new jobs and bolstered union negotiating. If (as I expect) robots go from 486 (where I think they are now) to i7 status (using the PC as analogy) in the next 9 years then practically all manufacturing, driving, and construction jobs will be gone. Robotics will advance fast enough so robots will be replaced not repaired. The pace of change will not allow bright-average or below people to maintain useful skills.
@commandersprocket You are talking about US history wich I know only superficially, I'm from Chile. I read a little about what caused it, and it didn't mentioned machines or industrialization anywere. But even if it was so, the wealth and life expentancy of every country in the world has exploded in the last 100 years, mostly because of technology. If my country and me had to go through a new great depression to get there, I would definitely take the loss for the advancement of human kind.
@iurak6868 I agree that we should not abandon progress. My intention was to shed light on the human cost that the advancement will take IF we don't consider it carefully. We have the potential with biotechnology, robotics, nanotechnology and artificial intelligence to move toward what we would now consider a utopia (just as a pre-industrial society might consider our current level of antibiotics, agricultural science, hot running water, mechanical transport and electricity utopian).
@commandersprocket Their is a big difference in the kids of labor jobs robots will replace. Their are laborers who need to think on the job, and laborers who don't need to think. 'Mind-numbing' labor jobs are the ones that robots are going to consume in the near future. We are many decades away from replacing skilled tradesmen or construction workers who have to make critical decisions everyday, rather than an assembly line worker who makes no decisions and just puts stuff together.
@jaydavey9 if you do a youtube search on "google driverless ted car" you will find videos that show current self driving car technology, if you search "contour crafting" you can easily find video's of prototype home building machines. The growth in robotic capabilities won't be linear (1, 2, 3, 4), it will be geometric (1, 2, 4, 8). That geometric growth is going to mean that skilled tradesmen aren't going to be replaced "many" decades from now but in only a few (5-30 years).
@commandersprocket Good luck replacing our tradesmen in 30 years time. By 2050 we want robots to beat humans in soccer. Building house is a whole different ball game.... pun intended.
it's ok
0dRoseanne962 2 months ago
"Safety has of course highest priority".
Screw the constant inculcated BULLSHIT of the last 20+ years. We're taking away just about everything you ever knew for generations, the world is deliberately set in disarray like never previously, but of course, we CARE about your safety... whilst we wipe out your jobs FOREVER and leave you in ever-deepening shit.
This has gone WAY too far already. Technology is no longer interesting and helpful.
CodeTwo2 5 months ago
Im ready for prosperity and a vacation! Welcome Frida! No more labor and more creating from the heart! The future is now!
bootyjudie 6 months ago 4
@bootyjudie "Im ready for prosperity and a vacation! Welcome Frida! No more labor and more creating from the heart! The future is now!"
You'll NEVER be given freedom and prosperity. This kind of talk began over thirty years back, and since then, the absolute opposite has been happening in the developed world.
The NWO won't "give" people anything. Look around - everything is being taken AWAY.
The future is NOT bright, and almost every technological advance is darkening it further.
CodeTwo2 5 months ago
Shit I need that to wank me
Shaiking4 7 months ago
Does anybody happen to know the name of the tune in the background? According to ABB, it's "Do you want me", but they could not provide me the artist...
philrueegg 7 months ago
What a tune?
good
LOOM7777 7 months ago
This will render a good part of the human workforce forever USELESS.
And for white-collars, make no mistake. It's only a matter a time before IBM Watson take your job too.
kizkoool 7 months ago
sorry, "tyranny can't last for long."
jaydavey9 10 months ago
sorry, "tyranny can't last for long."
jaydavey9 10 months ago
sorry - tyranny can't last for long.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
*tyranny can't last for long.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
After reviewing many of these comments, I am wondering just what you are all going to be living on while the robots have replaced you in the workplace? Trying to envision a world without some means of trade or exchange is not easy. While you are doing nothing and earning nothing, what is your means of purchasing what you need to exist? There is no such thing as a "free ride".
02bin3 10 months ago
@02bin3 I'm hoping that once we reach sustainability, then what we have is EXACTLY a free ride. There are only two things humanity needs -a habitable environment that supports our bodies (earth or some other planet) and an energy source (such as the sun). Trade and exchange is the mechanism to reach sustainability. Hopefully by then, humanity will have become a global society and will have conquered individual greed because there would be no reason to want more for yourself over anyone else.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@TakeItFromThere I'm sorry you feel I'm condescending and arrogant. I was hoping to generate debate with others, not make them feel small. Anyone is free to engage debate with anyone in the public domain of the internet and sometimes you get bitten. It's hard to measure someones intent without a tone of voice here. I believe by generating debate I'm doing quite opposite of a police state...
jaydavey9 10 months ago
This robot looks a lot more functional than the one taxpayers paid for and sent to the space station. Seriously, just buy one of these and you have the system for probably 1/1000th the cost of the NASA robot price? Robonaut (the NASA robot) admittedly looks a bit cooler though.
aerodyno 10 months ago
@TakeItFromThere If you don't embrace tech you will literally become obsolete and too expensive to run yourselves. That means more job losses. Employment is dynamic not static. If jobs were not created and destroyed over time then humanity would have no progression. Even the steam engine replaced workers! Go and live with the amish people if you're still convinced people losing these jobs to robots is a bad thing. You don't wish to pay taxes to build your own country? ignorance is bliss.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
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Edifice06 10 months ago 2
@TakeItFromThere Where I come from there is plenty of welfare support to give those looking for a new job some dignity. If you're worried, I suggest your country start working on their own welfare system then. I can only speak from my home country's position. I'm sorry if yours is more dire.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@TakeItFromThere so let me get this straight. you want your fellow americans given their crappy factory jobs back from china? I think there's no question about there being more opportunities and freedoms in america vs. china or mexico. Offshoring those jobs has certainly helped you guys innovate and develop world leading technologies that CREATE NEW JOBS. same thing will happen with robots. get creative mate. the biggest killer of employment these days has been the GFC, not new technology.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
looks like China is fucked! :P
soth3d 10 months ago
Skynet!!! we are all doomed!!!
Oh hell, i'm going to take the red pill or is it the blue pill? lol
psFAN4LIFE 10 months ago
@psFAN4LIFE, No It's The Forbin Project.
StupidPeasant 10 months ago
@StupidPeasant Colossus was a bit nicer, sure it was crazy and like a prison but at least some people lived :)
psFAN4LIFE 10 months ago
how sad
ricardososamexico 10 months ago
i for one welcome our robot overlords
darkmajik23 10 months ago
@jaydavey9, we will adapt, true. But what seems natural? Exponential change is flat for a very long time. Chaos does happen.
StupidPeasant 10 months ago
@StupidPeasant i think don't understand your point. exponential change is very natural. human population expansion is a great example of that. and we seemed to have managed our own exponential growth just fine. Plagues are exponential and so are flu epidemics. yet here humans are beating chaos every day. bring it on.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 , I like your attitude. Keep it up.
Have you read "The Singularity Is Near", A very positive story about technology doubling in speed relative to cost every two years.
StupidPeasant 10 months ago
@TakeItFromThere Welfare. Tax payers.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@TakeItFromThere It's called redundancy compensation. Money to fund yourself while you find a new job because you're no longer needed at the old one. If you can't be replaced, you'll never get promoted. And when big businesses make money, they have the ability to spend more money on creating new jobs and to perform new research and development. Sure, some businesses are greedy and the CEO's are the ones who take the profit. Greed is a flaw in humans, not in using robots as a workhorses
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@Jotto999, good point about laborious jobs, however, those people will need a job of some kind. There will be a lot of trouble in the transition of the next 20 years.
StupidPeasant 10 months ago
@StupidPeasant trouble that is natural to progressing society. It was the same when computers started popping up everywhere. people soon got used to them and learned how to use them. Humans are adaptable creatures - that's just one of many things that makes us far better and far more versatile than robots.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 , Robots will someday adapt so fast, humans will not be able to comprehend what is happening. But we won't need to. By that time we will have many robotic parts within us. We may live for hundreds of years. There will have to form a new kind of economy and governments, if at all. It will be wonderful, if we get through the transition period with out killing each other.
2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x2x= a very fast computer in 30 years.
StupidPeasant 10 months ago
Very nice. But will it blend?
kasuskasus 10 months ago
@kasuskasus , yes it will.
StupidPeasant 10 months ago
@StupidPeasant Good. I thought it might.
kasuskasus 10 months ago
There will be a great economic displacement as we transition to the super advanced future. "They" know it's coming. A row of these robots will be able to build a row of these robots. They will stock the shelves. IBM's Watson will answer the phone. The millions out of work will have time to think of new things to do;,,,, like kill robots instead of just each other. The Singularity Is Near and it might hurt for awhile. I have not heard any serious economist on the subject.
StupidPeasant 10 months ago
Now to combine this with some kind of cheap low maintenance long term energy source and come up with non money based economy and it will be glorious.
monreall 10 months ago
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords
auswolf350 10 months ago
Terrific! I'd like to see factory jobs automated.
Jotto999 10 months ago
@Jotto999 Tell me what you do for a living, and I will give you an estimate of how long it will take for someone to develop an automated system to replace you...
wbaltzley 10 months ago
@wbaltzley I'm in the process of learning foreign currency exchange trading.
Which could easily be automated, and in fact often already is. Fortunately, it's my own money I'm throwing around, and equity markets will change but won't vanish just because the money is being traded by programs. Still though, it's definitely becoming automated already.
The reason I desire laborious jobs to be automated is because I don't like seeing my fellow humans having to do them.
Jotto999 10 months ago
looks promising. I really think there should be more focus on getting the robots to move faster, I don't see progress in that area as impossible, we just need new methods.
lordjavathe3rd 10 months ago
I like they finally made a tiny cheap robot that doesn't look all herky jerky. My cyborg body is going to be TITS!
TheLifePerfect 10 months ago
They took er jerbs!
qkrthnu 10 months ago
Frida... she is willing and ready to take your job!.. Let's just take money out of the equation and let the robots do all the work..
seanotube85 10 months ago 36
@seanotube85 As the most intelligent beings on the planet there comes a time where we need to begin phasing humans out of every day tasks so they can rise to something greater. As long as it doesn't happen all at once the human race will be better for it.
jinxizme 10 months ago
@jinxizme As long as we are actually valued for our intelligence...
seanotube85 10 months ago
@seanotube85 humans are valued for much more than their intelligence. love, compassion, empathy, hope, loyalty and friendship to name a few. you're somebody's daughter or somebody's son. somebody's sister or brother. what is a robot to a human? an engineered slave. humans are valued for much more than their intelligence. robots do not have genes or family.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 Well, yes, you're most certainly right. I was only spinning that sentence off of your previous comment. And what I meant by it is that some humans don't value human life. If they did, the world would be a better place already. I'm not suggesting we try to wipe those humans out or anything like it. I'm only suggesting that the problem is a little more complicated than just building robots to do all our jobs for us... or is it?... *hands off debate baton*
seanotube85 10 months ago
I bet blue collar workers are excited about this
EJsTV 10 months ago
skynet
kaidokert 10 months ago
I personally can't wait to see a world run by robots with humans on constant vacation. At least robots have the potential to reduce the stupidly fast pace this world runs at. Everyone could have the opportunity work because they choose to, not work because they have to. As for the money, a robotic work forces does exactly that. It saves you money. So, replace yourself with a robot if you can, and use the money you save to live and spend time with family/friends and hobbies.
jaydavey9 10 months ago 23
@jaydavey9 I think. like you said, that robots will do those dirty/ hard works we human have trouble to do, and that will allow us to expect better paid, high end jobs, more about taking decisions, than ACT upon them.
iurak6868 10 months ago
@iurak6868 who is to say that automation will only extend to dirty, nasty jobs that "nobody" wants to do? We have made great advances in A.I. in the past few years. We are rapidly developing systems that can conduct research and make decisions using past data to predict future events.
Some people predict that we will eliminate paralegals and stock-traders within a few years. Google is developing automated driving systems...where will it end?
wbaltzley 10 months ago
@wbaltzley and who designs the future predicting models? who designs the cars? we do.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 Statisticians design the models with some assistance from professionals. Programmers then translate the models into code. Neither one cares about the affects it will have on others--only that they get paid for doing their job.
wbaltzley 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 Prices are determined by supply and demand. While our population continues to increase, demands on our resources go up, and we are forced to be more productive to pay higher living costs. I'm concerned that robotics won't slow down the pace of life, would just enable going even faster...
...until we manage to stop increasing our living costs.
FriendlyHugo 10 months ago
@FriendlyHugo I can't speak for any other modern societies but in Australia the total fertility rate is below the replacement levels. The only reason Australia's population is increasing is due to the high amounts of migration from other countries. I believe modern society's general trend is in reducing population. This is largely due to the advancements in industry/automation that has allowed us to increase our standard of living, instead of relying on larger families to support ourselves.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 True. It's just the "third world" that still needs to catch up with this trend... At some point we will actually have the problem of a shrinking labour force - robots will be a particularly useful solution then.
Peeking at File:Population_growth_rate_world.PNG on wikipedia I notice estimates for South Africa (where I'm from) also claim negative growth - in this case it's primarily caused by AIDS. :-/
FriendlyHugo 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 in an ideal world this would work, but since such robots run anywhere from $100,000 to $1 Million USD, it is unlikely that the average person will be able to afford one. They will likely be purchased and deployed by businesses to replace their workers. This would result in mass unemployment, poverty, and greater inequality.
wbaltzley 10 months ago
@wbaltzley Your estimates at the costs of robots are grossly over estimated. Most people have robots in their homes already and they are extremely affordable. Industrial robots are cheap as chips compared to paying salaries, sick leave, maternity/paternity leave, paying for people to sleep, eat and all those labor shortcomings.
Industrial robots can be much cheaper than $100,000. Also, if the price of computers are anything to go by, robots will be more powerful and affordable for less
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 sorry, it has been about 13 years since I last checked prices on industrial robots. Yes, prices have been greatly reduced since then. According to Wikipedia an industrial robot runs anywhere from $7,000 to $100,000 USD. This is just on the edge of what the average person can afford (with financing).
However, you made my point for me--manufacturers will use these robots to replace workers
wbaltzley 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 Nice dream :P, I do think the world could be a better place because of robots though.. if humans don't exist..
ImporTz 10 months ago
@ImporTz Of all the promises robotics can bring us, it's a shame you cannot grant robots any credit. Like renewable energy, some people think it's all 'fundamentally flawed' because the carbon footprint of producing renewable energy was supposedly greater than what it can save in the long run. And now it turns out we can produce solar panels with a smaller carbon footprint than using fossil fuels. Robotics, like renewable enegry is a challenging change. But it's not fundamentally flawed.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9
It will never happen, Hell look up the Venus project. They want something similar, granted they want to do away with property, money, and many freedoms they deem un-necessary.
scarface8999 10 months ago
@jaydavey9
Ah, no. Only the rich, the very rich will benefit from a robotic workforce. Will humanity be better off? probably, but individuals will find it very hard transitioning.
sennekuyl 7 months ago
@jaydavey9
The Matrix... Anyone?
jookur 7 months ago
Pretty soon we soon we wont have any more jobs
djsuperstar717 10 months ago
@djsuperstar717 the ones with grammar like your barely have any job now.
p6v53as435fe 10 months ago
@p6v53as435fe Pretty soon we wont have any more jobs,
It was a typo and your grammar isn't exactly perfect either
djsuperstar717 10 months ago
@djsuperstar717 there is allways something to do my friend, haven't you though that all those robots might need repair? or spare part? what about fuel? what about those that just don't like to keep a robot for a very long time? don't be so pesimistic. In the 1920 people though that machines would replace man, and they did in many things, but those same people found other better ways to make money.
iurak6868 10 months ago 3
@iurak6868 The pace of change is accelerating. In the 1920's a lot of people did go without work as the economy changed from an agriculture base to an industrial one (I think that we'll find this was one of the causes of the Great Depression). With technology accelerating roughly 15% per year knowledge learned in school becomes obsolete in about 4.5 years (the time it takes technology to double). This does have very severe effects on jobs.
commandersprocket 10 months ago
@iurak6868 People did not recover from the 1920's until the New Deal created new jobs and bolstered union negotiating. If (as I expect) robots go from 486 (where I think they are now) to i7 status (using the PC as analogy) in the next 9 years then practically all manufacturing, driving, and construction jobs will be gone. Robotics will advance fast enough so robots will be replaced not repaired. The pace of change will not allow bright-average or below people to maintain useful skills.
commandersprocket 10 months ago
@commandersprocket You are talking about US history wich I know only superficially, I'm from Chile. I read a little about what caused it, and it didn't mentioned machines or industrialization anywere. But even if it was so, the wealth and life expentancy of every country in the world has exploded in the last 100 years, mostly because of technology. If my country and me had to go through a new great depression to get there, I would definitely take the loss for the advancement of human kind.
iurak6868 10 months ago
@iurak6868 I agree that we should not abandon progress. My intention was to shed light on the human cost that the advancement will take IF we don't consider it carefully. We have the potential with biotechnology, robotics, nanotechnology and artificial intelligence to move toward what we would now consider a utopia (just as a pre-industrial society might consider our current level of antibiotics, agricultural science, hot running water, mechanical transport and electricity utopian).
commandersprocket 10 months ago
@commandersprocket Their is a big difference in the kids of labor jobs robots will replace. Their are laborers who need to think on the job, and laborers who don't need to think. 'Mind-numbing' labor jobs are the ones that robots are going to consume in the near future. We are many decades away from replacing skilled tradesmen or construction workers who have to make critical decisions everyday, rather than an assembly line worker who makes no decisions and just puts stuff together.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 *'there', not "their" sorry.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
@jaydavey9 if you do a youtube search on "google driverless ted car" you will find videos that show current self driving car technology, if you search "contour crafting" you can easily find video's of prototype home building machines. The growth in robotic capabilities won't be linear (1, 2, 3, 4), it will be geometric (1, 2, 4, 8). That geometric growth is going to mean that skilled tradesmen aren't going to be replaced "many" decades from now but in only a few (5-30 years).
commandersprocket 10 months ago
@commandersprocket Good luck replacing our tradesmen in 30 years time. By 2050 we want robots to beat humans in soccer. Building house is a whole different ball game.... pun intended.
jaydavey9 10 months ago
This is the beginning of the robot take over yay! (face palm)
SoOddLife 10 months ago