I was watching thinking how I loved this part of the movie and didn't understand why this video took so long to render if you just ripped it from the movie... then I saw the title. I actually thought it was from the film
Congradulations!! This is an incredible simulation, it looks just like the cscene in the movie! I saw this before I watched the trailer of the movie, but when I saw the trailer I thought that they literally just took your video an unsaturated it! YOU arre a GENIOUS! I love cg, but I don't use maya autodesk or 3ds max.... yet, however I do use blender 3d. I am not yet out of high school but if you see my simulations you may like them. They are not by realflow and are not comparable to this though
@TechnoStickmen Blender is fun, but I recommend learning Maya for animation, Houdini for FX, and Nuke for compositing as they are currently the most widely supported, and offer the most opportunities. RealFlow still has a niche for fluids.
If FPS's used quick Realflow renders for blood or just do it like Toribash (Wii version has different blood) Wii Did it looked real nice though on that game.
I like this video because of the over head shot. Any liquid under pressure and gravity will force it to flow and even sculpted shapes. There is no object in the blood. Nice video! :)
Meh. I hate that CG is replacing so much these days. I'm sure if it were applied to something and it was given more time on a good budget, this would look nice. But it's way too obvious it is CGI and doesn't compare to the original in my opinion. But then again, being that this was just for fun and all, I do have to say good job for what it is. The flow was nice and smooth and was pretty good for what it's worth.
@LandauTST I would NEVER use CG where practical footage could look decent, like with this shot from Shining. I dont prefer to watch pixels but CG in movies is usually used where live footage is not practical or where it will look more convincing than say miniature liquid. Of course, it wouldnt be practical for me to replicate this as a VERY difficult miniature just for personal amusement, & if I had the processing power (description) I would have made this look MUCH closer to the original.
@LandauTST I would NEVER use CG where practical footage could look decent, like with this shot from Shining. I dont prefer to watch pixels but CG in movies is usually used where live footage is not practical or where it will look more convincing than say miniature liquid. Of course, it wouldnt be practical for me to replicate this as a VERY difficult miniature just for personal amusement, & if I had the processing power (description) I would have made this look MUCH closer to the original.
@Xurgonic In the actual movie, there's an unknown object that is visible on the ground in front of the opening door for a moment until the blood covers it.
As I watch this very video, I feel entranced. Ah, yes...I am imagining myself as the little boy and bathing myself in the blood...in the dark, red, oozy, staining blood...and drinking it down, tasting its coppery, salty taste in my mouth, consuming with a voracious appetite the bloodshed of other human beings....ah, yes, feels quite good.
@darkgrenchler It took a week prior, just for the particles to stop sloshing around inside the elevator, after birth. A week to render the particle motion only. Then 3 more weeks to render the final image sequence. A few more days were spent post processing.
The only reason I can tell is because I've seen the Shining at least 25 times. I'm a huge Kubrick fan. Yeah, the blood in the movie is more translucent, but, it doesn't matter, That's incredible work!
@IPVentertainment Right, if you read the description I lacked the processing power to make the blood as detailed or 'thin' as the real thing. It could look better using the latest version of RealFlow.
Yes, you are right. But there is another interesting detail: the two pointers above the elevators doors together signify the number 23 (2+3). Kubrick chose the 23.5.1980 as the official release date of his film.
Illuminatus! He saw the Illuminati as the source of the bloodflow; the constant massmurder-sacrifice in the world...
@0CitizenOfTheWorl Yeah am sure this could be made to look much more realistic with RF5. But I dont know when I would ever have time to go back and mess with this again.
@Xurgonic I always thought this scene was shot on a full scale set instead of half scale. Do you think it's possible that it was and that the high speed camera was set to approx 70 instead of 140?
@0CitizenOfTheWorl Yes more realistic detail could be done in RF5. I dont know when I would ever have time to go back and mess with it again. It took a solid month just to render this.
Are you from the IRS? :-) Not sure what it is you want to know, but the computer used for this render is geared for graphics, rendering and editing, which is what I 'normally' use a computer for. I use three other computers- one for capturing and playing older timelines, another for scanning, printing and certain compositing, and an old W2K machine just for email. Five more older computers are sitting around in various states of functioning.
Very impressive, nice attention to detail. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but is the computer you used to make this your 'normal' general-purpose computer, or do you use it just for doing 3d rendering and the like? I did see the specs in the description, I just wanted to know if it was what you usually used.
What's weird for me is that at first I thought "What am I impressed supposed to be at? - It looks the same", but I went and re-watched the original; looks so much better. Oddly, this is pretty much how I remember this scene in my head.
@borintine The blood is the same color as it appears in the real footage at the same density. As explained, I could not calculate the finer droplets/spray which would appear brighter as in the movie. The overhead angle was a quick afterthought where more things dont look right and the blood appears more mahogany.
@Homestar20845 There is nothing to tweak about the front angle where the blood already matches the color of the real thing. The overhead angle is less relevant, has more errors, & would take too long to mess with making a matte for the blood and floor stain, re-comping & re-posting. If you read the description, the blobbyness is a much worse problem but is not feasible to change, so it is not worth messing with any of it further.
@Altacar ? The CG blood stains all areas where it contacts the floor and white walls. If you look at the real shot, the only areas you can really see blood staining is on the floor and white walls. The rest is too dark or is at an angle where it is not noticeable, and so it would be a waste of calculation. As described, the overhead angle was just a quick afterthought where a number of technical flaws are more apparent.
this is cool. I remember this scene from my youth and it scared the shit out of me. Nice rendition and it still freaked me out a bit. The splash of the fluid was nicely done but it seemed a bit thick. They used raspberry juice for the actual scene which was a model.
Aha, but your own simulation doesn't show the fluid mimicking, with reflection- "illusions", the appearance of a solid object deflecting fluids around itself as it slides away from the door; you show the fluid behaving as I would expect it to, spreading chaotically as it hits the floor. And: re: the reflection theory: yes, I agree that the highlights delineating the shape of the solid in the fluid are reflections... but they are reflections bouncing off an obvious solid in a flood
Your skills with CGI are very impressive. I know you don't think that there is an object in the blood, but I think you should try and experiment with this whole scene and add some "bodies" it could prove you right or wrong.
@kickodude Check my 'Explanation' video description for a link to some still renders. The CG body is positioned how Ager explained to me he sees it, which no one else particularly sees btw. He thinks a corpse is grasping a cable in the elevator shaft which makes no sense whatsoever. How would anyone dead hold anything? The white strip is not shaped like an arm & would have to be about 10ft long. An empty shaft does not jive with the floor dial & the blood volume limited about equal to the car.
Masterfully done, but as at least one person mentioned, the color is a bit too dark and chocolate like. A brighter red, although prolly less realistic, would make a better recreation of the original. But this is a nitpick, outstanding work.
@ScottPadbury3D 'Wet maps' are a nifty feature of RealFlow. During an RF sim, RF can generate a 'splot' image sequence that corresponds with wherever particles collide with UV mapped geometry. There is a 'Creating a wet map in RealFlow' tut on YT. I also have a workaround trick for doing it in LW. And Denis Pontonnier has some similar plugin that works with PFX. I think PFX can now be converted to RF5 and vice versa as well.
@jacobwhenderson Average 25mins per frame, 9-pass, at 720x, 3 recursions, 3 bounces, on an i7 quad. About the same amount of time per frame for the sim.
It looks pretty good in flow, but the color is off and there seems to be very little splatter left on the walls. Those two things I think are the biggest weakness. In the end, the original scene reigns supreme.
@rangerbagel It never was an attempt to match the original since there was a severe limitation in the number of particles required. The thick blood color is matched to the thick blood color in the dvd capture, but the real blood spreads thinner and thus brighter in more areas. Blood splatters on the wall wherever the splashing particles touch the wall, as 'wet maps' are a feature of RealFlow. But in reality, the splatters spread out more, making them more apparent.
ick ick ick baby. lol. its a little dark for blood and there isnt enough stain on the white walls but i love it. Its disgusting and i love it... *twitch* love the angles. lol
i am strongly against CGI. There are only a few exceptions for me. I do like computer animated pixar movies though. But when it comes to special FX in movies, it's gotta be practical effects.
@timninerell Should always shoot live FX when possible. Photoreal CG is for when practical effects are not practical. You see some seamless CG around that you have no awareness of. "The Third and Seventh by Alex Roman" is a remarkable use of CG.
@zarathos81 Read the description, or comments. CG can work. Just not with the limitations here. The same software is used for water simulations in dozens of movies and commercials you may have seen but never questioned.
that is seriously crossing the uncanny valley, wow. it almost looks like a real life miniature rather than cg. i could watch this again and again, and i have...
@Filmmaker The thick CG blood is very close to the color and darkness as the actual thick blood on the dvd. But the real blood splash has far more smaller droplets that catch more translucent light to appear brighter. As explained, it was not feasible to render anywhere near enough particles to duplicate the real thing. So I wound up with thick goop that is not as translucent or bright. In the overhead angle the brown floor refracts more thru the blood and looks worse.
@Xurgonic Got it. I do like where you're going with it, and the overhead shot is cool. I don't know if you work in the movie biz, but if not, I would bet you could get work doing CG and effects.
I find it interesting that you chose to recreate it in the scale of a model. It's acutally artistically really cool. I wonder, though, if you could have extrapolated the proper camera and survey info to recreate it at 100% scale - to present it as an alternative to the shot Kubrick used, rather than recreate it. Though you might want to borrow a render farm...
I can render a completed sim over a farm but the bottleneck is that RealFlow wont calculate the initial sim over a network. RF also works better at a scale smaller than the full size hall. I always knew the limitation in particles meant the sim would never look real. I just tried this for fun on a new i7 workstation.
@Xurgonic It's a great attempt. I'm not a 3D guy, so I don't know if there are tricks with particles to improve the scaling visually. But you could change the physics, lens, scaling, and DOF to give the room more of a full-size feel. It's partly the lack of DOF that makes it seem like a miniature.
The scale, lens, and DOF are already matched closely to the original. The far bigger scale problem is that it was not feasible to render anywhere enough millions of particles to get realistic liquid detail. So with less particles, the sim has to fatten them up so they blend together to avoid it looking like a bunch of marbles. This results in a thicker blobby volume with an inappropriate looking scale.
I just watched the one from the shining and this one. Flawless. You should be proud of this it is so perfectly done. One word Amazing
Titanifreak 2 days ago
oh my god... this is a real video. i'm convinced. Film. :P This is so amazing man... just, wow. :)
carterateababy 1 week ago
GREAT JOB!
The blood looks like chocolate-sauce! Hahahahahahahaha!
adam985185 3 weeks ago
I was watching thinking how I loved this part of the movie and didn't understand why this video took so long to render if you just ripped it from the movie... then I saw the title. I actually thought it was from the film
:x
SirCrest 1 month ago
Reminds me of my girlfriend
ChaotixDemon 2 months ago 3
that would be perfect for a halloween candy commercial
tripptacular 2 months ago
This was very good. I think people think this is the real scene from the movie, but you recreated the scene, correct?
davidbrucemusicvideo 2 months ago
That is pretty wicked!! I don't remember the overhead shot being in the movie, I must go watch it now!e ;D <3
XxShadowvalkyriexX 2 months ago
That's odd.
The blood usually gets off at the second floor.
Webshooters1 2 months ago 3
omg! the shot paning from the roof was awsome!
jesmarlesmar 2 months ago
I just love the overhead shot!!!
Jadama0 3 months ago
chocolate? :DDD
itzdataznboi 3 months ago
Oh no, its grape juice!!!!
LoquenderoPrincipe 3 months ago
THE SHINING! for xbox 360!
gungrave761 3 months ago
someone extra chocolate
mathie3333 3 months ago
Congradulations!! This is an incredible simulation, it looks just like the cscene in the movie! I saw this before I watched the trailer of the movie, but when I saw the trailer I thought that they literally just took your video an unsaturated it! YOU arre a GENIOUS! I love cg, but I don't use maya autodesk or 3ds max.... yet, however I do use blender 3d. I am not yet out of high school but if you see my simulations you may like them. They are not by realflow and are not comparable to this though
TechnoStickmen 4 months ago
@TechnoStickmen Blender is fun, but I recommend learning Maya for animation, Houdini for FX, and Nuke for compositing as they are currently the most widely supported, and offer the most opportunities. RealFlow still has a niche for fluids.
Xurgonic 4 months ago
I actually thought the blood in the movie looked too thin. This more viscous consistency more resembles blood in my opinion.
ItsMeFletcher 4 months ago
@ItsMeFletcher Its interesting that a number of people have that impression.
Xurgonic 4 months ago
@xurgonic can you make a tutorial video please?
YuichiTaira 4 months ago
@YuichiTaira There are plenty of RealFlow tutorials. This is pretty basic for ReaFlow.
Xurgonic 4 months ago
WOW that was incredible. Seriously, for the first 8 seconds I wasnt even aware it was CG. Bravo sir.
thebigrussian 4 months ago
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thebigrussian 4 months ago
that is AMAZING
seventhswami 4 months ago
You did it for fun and it took a MONTH TO RENDER?!
AETutorials42 4 months ago
If FPS's used quick Realflow renders for blood or just do it like Toribash (Wii version has different blood) Wii Did it looked real nice though on that game.
iceman78772 4 months ago
looks real
MJQ0690 4 months ago
I like this video because of the over head shot. Any liquid under pressure and gravity will force it to flow and even sculpted shapes. There is no object in the blood. Nice video! :)
Jadama0 4 months ago
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Jadama0 4 months ago
Yay chocolate! :D
xFLYBATx 5 months ago
Meh. I hate that CG is replacing so much these days. I'm sure if it were applied to something and it was given more time on a good budget, this would look nice. But it's way too obvious it is CGI and doesn't compare to the original in my opinion. But then again, being that this was just for fun and all, I do have to say good job for what it is. The flow was nice and smooth and was pretty good for what it's worth.
LandauTST 5 months ago
@LandauTST I would NEVER use CG where practical footage could look decent, like with this shot from Shining. I dont prefer to watch pixels but CG in movies is usually used where live footage is not practical or where it will look more convincing than say miniature liquid. Of course, it wouldnt be practical for me to replicate this as a VERY difficult miniature just for personal amusement, & if I had the processing power (description) I would have made this look MUCH closer to the original.
Xurgonic 5 months ago
@LandauTST I would NEVER use CG where practical footage could look decent, like with this shot from Shining. I dont prefer to watch pixels but CG in movies is usually used where live footage is not practical or where it will look more convincing than say miniature liquid. Of course, it wouldnt be practical for me to replicate this as a VERY difficult miniature just for personal amusement, & if I had the processing power (description) I would have made this look MUCH closer to the original.
Xurgonic 5 months ago
lol it looks like brownie mix from eagles view
cammanderful 5 months ago
That looked really awesome, and I'm sure it took a while to make. But... WHERE'S THAT UNKNOWN THINGY ON THE GROUND WHEN THE DOOR OPENS? D: xD
neil8642 6 months ago
@neil8642 What thingy?
Xurgonic 6 months ago
@Xurgonic In the actual movie, there's an unknown object that is visible on the ground in front of the opening door for a moment until the blood covers it.
neil8642 6 months ago
@neil8642 There is no object on the floor. See my 'explanation' vid.
Xurgonic 6 months ago
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As I watch this very video, I feel entranced. Ah, yes...I am imagining myself as the little boy and bathing myself in the blood...in the dark, red, oozy, staining blood...and drinking it down, tasting its coppery, salty taste in my mouth, consuming with a voracious appetite the bloodshed of other human beings....ah, yes, feels quite good.
HalloweenMan18 6 months ago
Jello pudding? Bill Cosby would be proud!
wyokid999 6 months ago
Very nice! Just... YES!
rmordica 6 months ago
Looks like chocolate!
The Factory-Wonka's Revenge.
clarinetchum 6 months ago
Have a happy period
gullibleklown 6 months ago
not as good
NMWMN 7 months ago
well..... better get the mop...... :L
ironspring 7 months ago
Dude, that is unrequitedly awesome. You are God
violinmerchant 7 months ago
Amazing job :)
MrPibi 8 months ago
Hot Chocolate.
noangel931 8 months ago
A MONTH to render?
:|
darkgrenchler 8 months ago
@darkgrenchler It took a week prior, just for the particles to stop sloshing around inside the elevator, after birth. A week to render the particle motion only. Then 3 more weeks to render the final image sequence. A few more days were spent post processing.
Xurgonic 8 months ago
The only reason I can tell is because I've seen the Shining at least 25 times. I'm a huge Kubrick fan. Yeah, the blood in the movie is more translucent, but, it doesn't matter, That's incredible work!
SousSherpa 8 months ago
Forgot to say it but amazing work btw :P
sparkman1234 8 months ago
What were the settings for the viscosity of the blood, if I may ask?
sparkman1234 8 months ago
@sparkman1234
res- 900
dens- 900
int pres- 1
ext pres- 1
visc- 1
tension- 15
blend- 95
radius- .004
Xurgonic 8 months ago
@Xurgonic Thanks for the reply.
sparkman1234 8 months ago
That is GREAT Work! I am Really impressed!
SousSherpa 8 months ago
This is awesome!
StanleyKu 8 months ago
This looks almost exactly like the movie but the blood needs to be more realistic
xXtornadoEPICfaceXx 8 months ago
@xXtornadoEPICfaceXx "It needs to be more realistic" is my favorite unhelpful client comment, right up there with "It still looks CG."
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teras231 9 months ago
Mr.Burns: Hmm, that's odd. Usually the blood gets off at the second floor.
ontariobuds 9 months ago 2
dude, this whole scene looks fucking insane. looks real lol
MarcowaR 9 months ago
willy wonka and chocolate lift
Fede1o97 9 months ago
Very well done.
joshster456 9 months ago
yea good job except you could see through the blood a bit in the movie
IPVentertainment 10 months ago
@IPVentertainment Right, if you read the description I lacked the processing power to make the blood as detailed or 'thin' as the real thing. It could look better using the latest version of RealFlow.
Xurgonic 9 months ago
@IPVentertainment
Yes, you are right. But there is another interesting detail: the two pointers above the elevators doors together signify the number 23 (2+3). Kubrick chose the 23.5.1980 as the official release date of his film.
Illuminatus! He saw the Illuminati as the source of the bloodflow; the constant massmurder-sacrifice in the world...
Kreischzwerg 8 months ago
Looked great - u should look into Hybrido in realflow 5
0CitizenOfTheWorl 10 months ago
@0CitizenOfTheWorl Yeah am sure this could be made to look much more realistic with RF5. But I dont know when I would ever have time to go back and mess with this again.
Xurgonic 10 months ago
@Xurgonic I always thought this scene was shot on a full scale set instead of half scale. Do you think it's possible that it was and that the high speed camera was set to approx 70 instead of 140?
StanleyKu 8 months ago
@0CitizenOfTheWorl Yes more realistic detail could be done in RF5. I dont know when I would ever have time to go back and mess with it again. It took a solid month just to render this.
Xurgonic 10 months ago
Good job
roffldroid 10 months ago
It looks like red wine! Hahaha!! The scary music with red wine doesn't makes sense:D
MrJustinMiner 10 months ago
nice
FokBibi 10 months ago
Precisely.
Xurgonic 10 months ago
Im guessing that you would need A LOT more splash particles to make it as messy as the original...
andrew5500 10 months ago
chocolate flavour blood
NilNeiro 11 months ago
doesn't look real at all. this look like chocolate sauce! laaaaaame
vermontoddeo 11 months ago
I'm not sure if I like this.. the blood looks faker then it did in like 1980. how did you get the camera angle from the top?
ajpatter210 11 months ago
@ajpatter210 ? I just put the camera above. You might wanna read the description. It was not possible to make the liquid as detailed as the original.
Xurgonic 11 months ago
the blood is most dark. it looks like chocolate :o
to shinning, the blood looks like red water.
i love this scene on the film ...
Electrashow 11 months ago
One month D:
Truechuser 11 months ago
I agree. Kubrick's giggling somewhere, I'm sure. Well done, sir.
JNoose 1 year ago
Are you from the IRS? :-) Not sure what it is you want to know, but the computer used for this render is geared for graphics, rendering and editing, which is what I 'normally' use a computer for. I use three other computers- one for capturing and playing older timelines, another for scanning, printing and certain compositing, and an old W2K machine just for email. Five more older computers are sitting around in various states of functioning.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
Very impressive, nice attention to detail. Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but is the computer you used to make this your 'normal' general-purpose computer, or do you use it just for doing 3d rendering and the like? I did see the specs in the description, I just wanted to know if it was what you usually used.
HoneydewHuey 1 year ago
Respect
semmetje20000 1 year ago
Wonka's chocolate factory is more how I see it..
pruisjetschaamluisje 1 year ago
very well done!
PowerHouseNet 1 year ago
I will never look at Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory the same again...
Goji73 1 year ago
director had to make it this color so the wouldnt get banned
7immortal7 1 year ago
Spectacular work! The overhead tracking shot is simply amazing looking.
TheAltair4 1 year ago
This looks very realistic blood! This animation is amazing!
and yeah I think somebody should adjust his monitor colors...
BucciPhotography 1 year ago
How much time did you take to do this? And why did you do it? (not meant as an insult).
johnnycon 1 year ago
@johnnycon In the description.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
What's weird for me is that at first I thought "What am I impressed supposed to be at? - It looks the same", but I went and re-watched the original; looks so much better. Oddly, this is pretty much how I remember this scene in my head.
MdjlDaviesII 1 year ago
mmm chocolate
stoneman1231 1 year ago
Are all computer geeks colour-blind? This looks more like chocolate than blood.
borintine 1 year ago
@borintine The blood is the same color as it appears in the real footage at the same density. As explained, I could not calculate the finer droplets/spray which would appear brighter as in the movie. The overhead angle was a quick afterthought where more things dont look right and the blood appears more mahogany.
Xurgonic 1 year ago 7
@Xurgonic Doesn't mean you can't tweak the colour of it
Homestar20845 1 year ago
@Homestar20845 There is nothing to tweak about the front angle where the blood already matches the color of the real thing. The overhead angle is less relevant, has more errors, & would take too long to mess with making a matte for the blood and floor stain, re-comping & re-posting. If you read the description, the blobbyness is a much worse problem but is not feasible to change, so it is not worth messing with any of it further.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
@borintine Fun fact: chocolate syrup is actually used to make fake blood in low budget films, because it is very dark and the right consistency.
mikekearn 1 year ago 17
@mikekearn only works in B&W
shandelear 6 months ago
Nicely done - however, are there any plans to make the blood stain anything? I'd expect everything to be pretty red after all that :) ...
Altacar 1 year ago
@Altacar ? The CG blood stains all areas where it contacts the floor and white walls. If you look at the real shot, the only areas you can really see blood staining is on the floor and white walls. The rest is too dark or is at an angle where it is not noticeable, and so it would be a waste of calculation. As described, the overhead angle was just a quick afterthought where a number of technical flaws are more apparent.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
0:20 pissed my pants for no reason XDD
BeBeAyumi 1 year ago
Looks very good! Thanks for uploading this.
hannibalcannibalx 1 year ago
This is far creepier to me than the original...... the thickness gives it a sense of sentience.
lamentes 1 year ago
this is cool. I remember this scene from my youth and it scared the shit out of me. Nice rendition and it still freaked me out a bit. The splash of the fluid was nicely done but it seemed a bit thick. They used raspberry juice for the actual scene which was a model.
milesmouse72 1 year ago
poetry in motion
enlightenmind5 1 year ago
CHOCOLAAAAATE!!!
Dasmaster1 1 year ago 2
Aha, but your own simulation doesn't show the fluid mimicking, with reflection- "illusions", the appearance of a solid object deflecting fluids around itself as it slides away from the door; you show the fluid behaving as I would expect it to, spreading chaotically as it hits the floor. And: re: the reflection theory: yes, I agree that the highlights delineating the shape of the solid in the fluid are reflections... but they are reflections bouncing off an obvious solid in a flood
The0Endless0Thread 1 year ago
Wow It Looks Half Real Half Fake
watsondlee 1 year ago
looks like wine
helpdonate1 1 year ago
what's the name of the technique used here?
TheRubadubman 1 year ago
@TheRubadubman Um, what technique? CGI?
Xurgonic 1 year ago 2
I think this scene in 3D would be great to watch!
TheRubadubman 1 year ago
thats great, im in early stages of cgi if u look at my channel, downloaded realflow about an hour ago, using it with xsi
jaw1002 1 year ago
liquid it more... kubricks blood is transparent, not chocolate. otherwise great job.
unsleep 1 year ago
Your skills with CGI are very impressive. I know you don't think that there is an object in the blood, but I think you should try and experiment with this whole scene and add some "bodies" it could prove you right or wrong.
kickodude 1 year ago
@kickodude Check my 'Explanation' video description for a link to some still renders. The CG body is positioned how Ager explained to me he sees it, which no one else particularly sees btw. He thinks a corpse is grasping a cable in the elevator shaft which makes no sense whatsoever. How would anyone dead hold anything? The white strip is not shaped like an arm & would have to be about 10ft long. An empty shaft does not jive with the floor dial & the blood volume limited about equal to the car.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
impressive, even though the blood looks like chocolate...hhmmm might be a good chocolate commercial wouldn't it?
runawayfreak 1 year ago
Masterfully done, but as at least one person mentioned, the color is a bit too dark and chocolate like. A brighter red, although prolly less realistic, would make a better recreation of the original. But this is a nitpick, outstanding work.
chriscumbag 1 year ago
That elevator is in need of a maxipad.
MEHOLE 1 year ago
NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! MR. WONKA!!!!!!!!!!!!
BoobiePettus 1 year ago
Awesome dude
quest8899 1 year ago
that's pretty beastly i gotta say :D
amevilee 1 year ago
Bravo great
Davemike 1 year ago
As the man would have said, "It doesn't look like blood."
But to me, it looks like some DAMN GOOD CGI!
MonsterDew1985 1 year ago
very good!
in the second camera the blood looks like chocolate heh, or my monitor is dying D;
Yacksoba 1 year ago
@Yacksoba Its not your monitor. The second shot looks like something gone wrong at the Wonka factory.
Xurgonic 1 year ago 2
@Xurgonic haha i'loled
btw very good work ;D
Yacksoba 1 year ago
it looks like a chocolate :)
Sefco26 1 year ago
How did you do the blood sticking to the wall?
ScottPadbury3D 1 year ago
@ScottPadbury3D 'Wet maps' are a nifty feature of RealFlow. During an RF sim, RF can generate a 'splot' image sequence that corresponds with wherever particles collide with UV mapped geometry. There is a 'Creating a wet map in RealFlow' tut on YT. I also have a workaround trick for doing it in LW. And Denis Pontonnier has some similar plugin that works with PFX. I think PFX can now be converted to RF5 and vice versa as well.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
Whoah, a month to simulate and render... I'm glad the result was worth it!
usere35 1 year ago
WOW this is amazing! Great attention to detail. Keep up the good work. :D What were your average render time per frame?
jacobwhenderson 1 year ago
@jacobwhenderson Average 25mins per frame, 9-pass, at 720x, 3 recursions, 3 bounces, on an i7 quad. About the same amount of time per frame for the sim.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
It looks pretty good in flow, but the color is off and there seems to be very little splatter left on the walls. Those two things I think are the biggest weakness. In the end, the original scene reigns supreme.
rangerbagel 1 year ago
@rangerbagel It never was an attempt to match the original since there was a severe limitation in the number of particles required. The thick blood color is matched to the thick blood color in the dvd capture, but the real blood spreads thinner and thus brighter in more areas. Blood splatters on the wall wherever the splashing particles touch the wall, as 'wet maps' are a feature of RealFlow. But in reality, the splatters spread out more, making them more apparent.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
@rangerbagel ay ay, la maricona criticona
ferbarreda 1 year ago
@ferbarreda I didn't realize offering constructive criticism made me una maricona.
Tenga un dia bueno homofobico.
rangerbagel 1 year ago
It does look a bit too dark............. But still, this is ace. Excellent job.
DRfronkensteen 1 year ago
ick ick ick baby. lol. its a little dark for blood and there isnt enough stain on the white walls but i love it. Its disgusting and i love it... *twitch* love the angles. lol
soulessrobin 1 year ago
it looks like melted chocolate from above.
HinataChick38 1 year ago
@HinataChick38 Yep, it looks worse from above. I didnt care to spend time tweaking the overhead angle as it was just rendered for the hell of it.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
Wow... I'm guessing you're out of my price range, but if you ever want to donate your talent, I got work for you. Great work..!
MetroCityFilms 1 year ago
i am strongly against CGI. There are only a few exceptions for me. I do like computer animated pixar movies though. But when it comes to special FX in movies, it's gotta be practical effects.
timninerell 1 year ago
@timninerell Should always shoot live FX when possible. Photoreal CG is for when practical effects are not practical. You see some seamless CG around that you have no awareness of. "The Third and Seventh by Alex Roman" is a remarkable use of CG.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
Looks like real blood, unlike the fact stuff you see in the movies.
ArcherJoeJoe 1 year ago
Looks very nice, But the blood is abit too dark.
If it were to be tinted abit more red it would've been perfect.
But still amazing :)
Eatmydds3 1 year ago
Well done.
nova1234 1 year ago
Stanley Kubrick-Genius
trueChaos23 1 year ago
Chocolate :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Enriquehack 1 year ago
Nah, the original will always work better
rutgerhauerfan 1 year ago
Amazing!!
rtms1988 1 year ago
very good !
Jocken75 1 year ago
That's odd.
Usually the blood gets off at the second floor...
TheNp42 1 year ago
CGi never works as well as the real thing. Unless we're comparing this to pudding.
zarathos81 1 year ago
@zarathos81 Read the description, or comments. CG can work. Just not with the limitations here. The same software is used for water simulations in dozens of movies and commercials you may have seen but never questioned.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
that is seriously crossing the uncanny valley, wow. it almost looks like a real life miniature rather than cg. i could watch this again and again, and i have...
dpdilla 1 year ago
Sorry... this doesn't look like blood. It's too dark and is more the color of dried blood. Keep working at it.
Filmmaker99 1 year ago
@Filmmaker The thick CG blood is very close to the color and darkness as the actual thick blood on the dvd. But the real blood splash has far more smaller droplets that catch more translucent light to appear brighter. As explained, it was not feasible to render anywhere near enough particles to duplicate the real thing. So I wound up with thick goop that is not as translucent or bright. In the overhead angle the brown floor refracts more thru the blood and looks worse.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
@Xurgonic Got it. I do like where you're going with it, and the overhead shot is cool. I don't know if you work in the movie biz, but if not, I would bet you could get work doing CG and effects.
Filmmaker99 1 year ago
@Filmmaker99 I've been doing FX for movies and TV since '96.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
Large scale shows the real dark-red like color of it...so this should be ok.
onlyCreativity 1 year ago
Wow, that is really beautiful, particularly the overhead shot you added in! Amazing!
sfchris 1 year ago
Make the blood darker and make the music uplifting and you got yourself an awesome Hershey's chocolate commercial.
MyNatalyaV 1 year ago 8
@MyNatalyaV I was actually thinking of making it white, and add back in the insert of scared Danny but with a milk mustache for a 'Got mil?' ad.
Xurgonic 1 year ago 2
I find it interesting that you chose to recreate it in the scale of a model. It's acutally artistically really cool. I wonder, though, if you could have extrapolated the proper camera and survey info to recreate it at 100% scale - to present it as an alternative to the shot Kubrick used, rather than recreate it. Though you might want to borrow a render farm...
dennitzio 1 year ago
I can render a completed sim over a farm but the bottleneck is that RealFlow wont calculate the initial sim over a network. RF also works better at a scale smaller than the full size hall. I always knew the limitation in particles meant the sim would never look real. I just tried this for fun on a new i7 workstation.
Xurgonic 1 year ago
@Xurgonic It's a great attempt. I'm not a 3D guy, so I don't know if there are tricks with particles to improve the scaling visually. But you could change the physics, lens, scaling, and DOF to give the room more of a full-size feel. It's partly the lack of DOF that makes it seem like a miniature.
dennitzio 1 year ago
The scale, lens, and DOF are already matched closely to the original. The far bigger scale problem is that it was not feasible to render anywhere enough millions of particles to get realistic liquid detail. So with less particles, the sim has to fatten them up so they blend together to avoid it looking like a bunch of marbles. This results in a thicker blobby volume with an inappropriate looking scale.
Xurgonic 1 year ago