@BayernMunichFans Well, I'm in the military, so I don't have the luxury of the fantasy world you live in. When given the choice between the lives of fellow American soldiers, and civilians of the nation we are at war with, I will always choose American soldiers. To choose any differently would result in you losing the freedom to live in your world of rainbows and unicorns.
@BayernMunichFans Many cities were bombed during WWII but it's only when the bombing raid are effective that there is such a backlash of from amateur historians. As we know bombs are by their nature indiscriminate. These people died because the emperor didn't care about Japanese civilians.
In 9/11 the "terrorists" came in our land and killed alot of our people. You know what 911 is? Thats the number we called for help. Police, fireman and ambulance. This was planned out and the "terrorists" had no problem killing themselves to take out all those people who were lost. We don't enjoy killing people. Im sorry that Americans hurt you in a way. I really don't know why Americans did what they did at that time, but we don't want to hurt anyone like we did then.
The usa used a nuclear bomb because they messed up at pearl harbor. So we hit them hard and sent a message to the world a message, "Don't fuck with us."
2:20 i can't believe how casually he's talking about the use of an atomic bomb. American politicians need to get over their egos and realise these are peoples lives their playing with, not a bunch of chips at a poker table. It's disgusting to watch.
One has to wonder how an idiot like John Dower manages to become an M.I.T. professor. He's twisted the facts around to support his own tired conspiracy theory. We would have much rather have had Japan surrender without actually using atomic weapons. Japan refused to surrender and that's an irrefutable fact. I guess we should have sacrificed thousands more American and Japanese lives invading Japan. Seriously, how do fools like that become university professors?! Pretty scary.
@RevolutionNewsUS Not all of the sources on google are credible dumbass. Maybe if you completed your first year of High School you would know that. See on google anyone can create a website and spew their own false "facts".
@RevolutionNewsUS We are currently imposing a trade embargo on Iran, so are you saying that we are at war with them? Would it be our fault if they bombed a military base in our country? Could they justify it by saying that we commited the first act of war?
And where exactly did you get all of this information about FDR? I'd love to see how credible your source is...
@RevolutionNewsUS OMG, you're an idiot too! Oh that's right, FDR was the anti-christ and poor picked-on Japan was just another of our innocent victims. Normally I wouldn't bother to read prattle like yours. Unfortunately the ignorant and uneducated actually believes a fool like you.
War is War ! It is the Only Legal-State which allows Soliders to kill Soliders .. It is Sickening even to say it but it is the World we live in. But killing Innocent Civilians, Kids, ....So that you take a short-Cut and Cheat your way in to Wining a War. I dont care of race color faith or any other aspect.
And as Atheist I always witness society presuming " if you dont believe in god you cant have any Values" But I know one thing If there were ever a god, he left after seing these events.
@halukteoman the usa did a terralbe thing but what about hitler!!! the us would have lost to them! fuck off the usa doing this save humanity in ww2 horrible things where done. buy what we did was nothing compaird to what they did
@RevolutionNewsUS FDR attacked Japan first? How is that? For your information, a trade embargo does not count as an attack. And if FDR knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor, then why were we caught completely unaware?
@Awesomechild96 President Roosevelt (FDR) provoked the attack, knew about it in advance and covered up his failure to warn the Hawaiian commanders. FDR needed the attack to sucker Hitler to declare war, since the public and Congress were overwhelmingly against entering the war in Europe. It was his backdoor to war.
FDR blinded the commanders at Pearl Harbor and set them up.
IF Japan developed the A-bomb first then for sure Japan had won WWII. The surrender ceremony would held aboard the Japanese battleship Yamato at Pearl Harbor, at which the government representatives of US, Britain, China, Dutch, Australia, Canada and the rest of the Allied countries signed the Instrument of Surrender provided by the Japanese government. Eventually there would be only two countries in the world, Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
The USA was absolutely right to bomb the JAPS. We saved the lives of one million Americans, ten million Japs, and a quarter of a million British. one hundred thousand Chinese were starving every month. God bless the BOMB.
That "Uranium Plant" in Oak Ridge, TN is the Y-12 complex, which maintains the US nuclear arsenal, while at the same time trying to disarm the rest of the world through political policy . There has never been a more central point in all of human evil.
Japan were the Nazis of Asia. They committed genocide against the Chinese people, 100 million murdered by Japanese. The Germans apologized to the Jews. The Japanese never apologized to China for what they did. Japanese people have a superiority complex, a mental disease. In the future, China will be the one to drop another bomb on Tokyo to teach them a lesson and USA will support China.
USA told Japan's leaders that they will drop the bomb so they should surrender now and prevent deaths. After having much time to think about it, Japan's leaders said "no way", go ahead and drop the bomb. USA did. Japan crawled on her knees and surrendered to USA. Thus, Japan's leaders are directly responsible for the deaths in the Japan as they could have prevented it.
all i know and care about is we got the bomb, we dropped them...the war ended, we won. soldiers died. women and children died. and that's a sad fact of war....people die....
now can't we all sit back and smoke a joint and get over all this petty B.S.???...lolol
what can we consider fare? when some one figth with other, in the same condition, or a nation can figth with other economically similar, or similiar conditions, no just because your economy harm the "global stability" , USA goberment send people to other nation and say to the president or you fuck your country, or we fuck you, why castro is not part of your "liberty" plan? the the Statue of Liberty, what it says is just hypocrisy, all nations have killed, and for them, is fare
what is fare? what we consider fare, is what morality told us to see as a fare reson to kill, the United states citizens, because America is all the continent, not just 1 part, they see fare, to throw a atomic bomb, i dont wanna sound paranoic but this is the beginning of a world domination, United states citizens, you want all the people to be free, but, even you are not free, my goberment is bad, but yours are worst,
@robbytrump the first step I am taking is to find a way through a seemingly solid wall of indifference. That is a much harder challenge than the steps which would follow.
This clearly opinion what he is saying. Otherwise please quote and cite the scientist or scientists by name who said " We have got to hurry up and use it". Revisionist history at the hand of the crazy liberals. Please shut up!
@ke4bss i am 75% German, 18% European, and 2% Native American. and even though i am a Texan, i was just born here. ppl, no matter where they come from can do horrible things with even the best intentions.
@5pac3c0w60y then don't be an american, you're free to go elsewhere. The fact is, when you're at war, there are no "innocents". Everyone was contributing to the war effort in same way. Also, regardless of how many foreign vs american lives are lost, during war american lives are more valuable. Further, even after the second bomb, there was a considerable attempt by japanese generals to prevent surrender.
@5pac3c0w60y I believe the caveat to that statement was "during war". When two countries are at war, obviously, you have to place a higher value on the lives of your own people. WWII was a war of attrition- supplies, equipment, and unfortunately, people.
@MrBobbyhurley sir, it doesn't matter where you come from, what race you are, if you've graduated from high school or not, if you don't have a job, living on the streets asking for money, old n' cenial, lost two teeth in a fight, does some ice and blow. no matter what time it is, were all one and the same.
@5pac3c0w60y if we are....or were...all one and the same, we would not have been at war to begin with, We were at war with Japan because we are not japanese, correct?
@5pac3c0w60y I completely and totally agree with you, the president was thinking of himself, he said he was protecting americans when in fact he was protecting himself... I can't go on, I'm so pissed off
@raeven1212 your full of shit. 600000000+ people lost in ww2, those numbers would have been FAR higher if we had to invade japan because every man woman and child would be fighting to the death in that fanaticall nation. they would have lost most of their population by the end and we would have lost well over a milion troops. and if japan had the bomb it would have been used on us.
@5pac3c0w60y Move to Iraq, where your forced to pay a 20% tax, and give refugee to taliban scum, with guns pointed at your head, Your better off their if your so sick.
@5pac3c0w60y why? because this idiots opinion based on no facts makes you feel bad that we killed people who would have killed our troops without thinking twice? you make me sick that you are an american
In fact, the bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not forestall an invasion of Japan because no invasion was necessary. The Japanese were on the verge of surrender, and American military leaders knew that. General Eisenhower, briefed by Secretary of War Henry Stimson on the imminent use of the bomb, told him that "Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary."
Most of you people are re peddling the same old crap that was told to my parents to make them feel all warm and fuzzy after the deed was done.What you should do is try to imagine the same thing happening to america. Half the population of 67 cities killed and mostly burned alive. Grandmas children babies not soldiers and as far as im concerned not necessary.
Yet the bombs should also be sent to Tokyo where the Head officials of the military government was, and Kyoto as well as Nara, the cradle of Japanese civilisation.
I wonder how many of the people who died in Hiroshima cheered the day they heard about the Japanes Naval victory at Pearl Harbor? The Empire of Japan was our Enemy, not the soldiers but the entire empire. Oh you wanna talk about civilians, well lets go ask the women of Nanjing about how the Japanese treated civilians, considering the raped an estimated 60,000 of them in a 6 week period and killed an estimated 200,000 chinese civilians as well. Dont start a fight, then bitch about losing.
Japan was finished. Most of the US casualties were the result of McArthurs insistance on taking back the Solomons against the advice of his comtemporys. When the nukes became available why was it so urgent to use them as Japan was, by then, totally isolated?
H & N were not attacked when just about every other city and large town were bombed, why were they kept in pristine condition?
Truth is they were selected as nuclear test sites early in the war as a show of power to the Russians.
@TheSpiritof1969 *MacArthur* insisted on retaking the *Philippines*.
What better choice did Truman have? Compromise peace?Jmilitary retains power & plansPacificWar Ii
Invade? 240,000 died on Okinawa. Kyushu's garrison was >x10 larger. Do the math.
Blockade? How many MILLIONS of J civilians would have starved (along with 100,000Allied POWs & 100,000 civilian internees) before hirohito gave the order to surrender?
You don't like that H&N got nuked? Too bad h didn't surrender earlier
@TheSpiritof1969 "none of it before"? Wrong answer! US policy was silent on the emporer throughout the war.. However, as early as April,1942, the Doolittle Raiders were ordered not tobomb the Imperial Palace because the emporer "might be useful later" As indeed he was-as collaborator in chief.
Honestly, haven't you ever heard the story that after Admiral Halsey learned that it was US policy not to bomb the palace,he told reporters that he was planning to ride hirohito's white horse?
And there was me thinking they did not target the cheif Japanese war criminal directly because the animalistic murdering scum that comprised the then Japanese armed forces would have meeted out a terrible vengence on all POWs.
But I stand by my comments. H & N were intentionally never attacked with conventional bombing so that two radically different designs of nuke could be given a live testing over real cities. Luckily the war was not quite over when they were ready.
Yes he '' might be useful later''. By 1945 Japan had been discounted as any kind of threat to the free world but Russia was a formidable power. No-one had any illusions about Stalin and had he chosen to forget about the Potsdam agreement there is nothing the west could have done to stop him over running Europe. My own feeling is that Japan would have warmed to the west in the post war era even quicker had they strung Hiroshito up in 1945. He was a weak medeival dinosaur.
The Japanese people were trapped by a medeival system of dictatorship with a perverted idea of honour that was based on racism ... much like the twisted Darwinism that engulfed Germany. But nothing can ever justify the orgy of genecide that was inflicted upon the civilian populations of both countries in the closing stages of those wars.
Surely we fought those wars because we held freedom and the right to life to be our highest ideal? In the end we were no better.
J sought to rule all Asia (for starters).MacArthur gave women the vote, made tenants landowners, broke the power of the samurai class, legalized unions & free press& free elections.
Wherever J Army went,they seized grain& millions starved-in China,Vietnam,Indonesia.
When MacArthur got toJ 8/45 he found it on the brinkof famine.He cabled DC "Send me food or send me bullets" US grain shipments averted mass starvation.
I am not argueing that America helped them rebuild and did the things yo say. But there was no moral high ground in carrying out the fire raids and nuking two cities. They had no military justification since the death toll was almost entirely civilian. Truman had plenty of choice over the atom bombs. The Pacific war had gone on for four years and there was no pressure to end it in a few days but he could not wait to use it.
@TheSpiritof1969 No military justification? Hiroshima was the headquarters of the Japanese 2nd General Army under Field Marshal Hata.43,000j troops were in the city & >20,000died.
The Nagasaki bomb explded 500meters from the MitsubishiMunitions factory.
No pressure to end it? Please explain to the families of 100,000 Allied POWs & 100,000 civilian internees how long Truman should have waited.
Do you really beleive that, had the bombs been ready a few months earlier they would have been used on Germany? That they would not have detonated it over a slightly populated area to demonstrate its destructive power? The Jap military knew about the potential of a fission reaction and they would have understood and tried a lot harder to negotiate a settlement but for America there would be no peace until the Nukes were tested on real cities.
Having said all that there was a positive side to the bombings in hindsight. The horror they released was a small taste of the far greater horrors that could come and was not forgotten in the cold war years and there was speculation that Stalin was murdered after he started talking of a pre-emptive strike against the west back in the fifties. In that respect we all owe the hundreds of thousands that died at H & N, and in the years after, an eternal debt of gratitude.
@cengkenit US forces defeated J units in EVERY battle in the last 3 years of the war.,but J govt still wouldn't surrender. 240,000died on Okinawa. Kyushu's garrison was >x10 larger. Do the math.
@robbytrump Absolutely correct: the "warrior class" wanted to perpetuate a war that was clearly lost by early 1945, they couldn't have cared less for the misery they were inflicting on their own people. The USA has nothing to apologize for because, as you say, they (and we the Brits) spoke to them in a language they understood: death and destruction. The weepy apologists are living in a fantasy world, as always, entrenched in opinions that fail to take account for the realities of war.
@robbytrump I NEVER fucking said the US was bad and Japan was good. You dumb prick. I simply said killing unarmed civilians is evil. Maybe you were totally blind in the fact that I specifically wrote "peace to the world" This is why it'll never happen, cause of haters like you still breathing on such a beautiful planet. Make peace, not war
The assertion that the US needed to drop the bomb before the war ended is contrived revisionism. The Japanese had no intent on surrendering, occupied Korea, Manchuria, most of China, with 10 Japanese Armies. The US was transporting troops from Europe for the Invasion of Japan that would occur late 1946. The Japan nation was preparing for invasion. Kyushu had 900,000 troops plus the civilians were being trained to die fighting. (US had 676,000).
Anyone wanting to have the facts behind why the bomb was used should looked into the book 'Hell to Pay: Operation DOWNFALL and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947' by D.M. Giangreco. It is a well researched and comprehensive look at the events leading up the bombings of Heroshima and Nagasaki and the projected Operations Olympic and Coronet.
Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
@KDN322 Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
@KDN322 Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
The things we do to each other and the things we created, will come back to kick us in the ass. Look at our past century on how far we came in technology. Its ignorent to think we can continue like this.
WW2 is a "TOTAL WAR" anything that helps your enemies to survive and fight is a fair target... citizens (civilians) that provides weapons, food, reserves, and supports to delusions psychopaths (Hirohito) deserve to die, if killing them means I save my life and the lives of my love ones...
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The Japanese were already willing to surrender before the bombs were dropped. This was not an issue of ending the war as they were already drafting a sirrender packet. They just wanted to keep the emperor on the throne, which the US rejected ... THAT is why atomic bombs were dropped on civilians, not to save American lives. Oh yeah, emperor Hirohito was still allowed to stay on as head of state after Japan's unconditional surrender. In other words, the bombs were dropped for nothing.
@spamllpitdept BULLSHIT! Read the cables btwn JForMin Togo & JambUSSR Sato. 7/45 Sato stated that J was defeated & could only hope to save the Imperial system. Togo replied that J would not accept "anything like unconditional surrender". 8/2/45 when Sato asked for J peace terms, Togo declined to state them- because there weren't any decided upon. J military was obsessed with retaining power thru a compromise peace by inflicting heavy casualties on the US invasion set for 11/45
@spamllpitdept "Those who seek to argue that the Japanese were ready to surrender before Hiroshima are peddlers of fantasies. True, the Tokyo leadership wanted peace, but on terms rightly unacceptable to the Allies"
-Max Hastings "Retribution" p513
Even AFTER H&N 1/2 J cbnt "Big Six" wanted
emporer remains absolute ruler
no occupation
j disarms self
No war crimes trials xcpt in J tribunals
Truman made the right decision. Too bad we didn't have the A bombs in 12/41.
@bannyloren100 LOL! At least I know how to spell "truly". I also know the rules for using a and an. You are semiliterate *dolt*. You are also *an* idiot.
What a bunch of leftist propaganda. The Japanese had two chances to surrender before and after Hiroshima. It took the Nakasaki Bomb and the Soviet declaration of war to make the leaders save their people. American lives lost in gaining surrender very few, Some POW's were killed by the blasts. You are truly Vermin for trying to twist the reality of reasoning for bombing japan.
@KDN322 Read a book fucking retard. Japan attacked soldiers and air bases, they didn't aim at elders, women, childeren, schools, or libraries. And fyi only 75 civilians were killed in Pearl Harbor, 100 thousand Japanese civilians were burned alive in Hiroshima. cough cough what's with that? You in elementary school?
Only 75? Oh yeah thats nothing. 75 innocent people killed for no fucking reason, not counting the soldiers. And I wonder how many more would of died if we didn't drop the bomb. That bomb won us the war. And yes I am in elementary school and I thought the coughing added a certain mansuetude alluding to my point which you would of realized if you weren't suffering from the symptoms of a perpetual katzenjammer
@KDN322 BWAHAHA xD you're hilarious. See you have bad parents for allowing kids access to the internet. How long did it take you to look up those words? Days? Hahaha it's funny how the only way you "think" you can win an arguement is by using words that contain 4 syllables am I wrong? Hahaha you're telling me that 75 is greater than 100 thousand? Japan was running low on supplies, even without the A-bomb I doubt they'd lasted a month tops. You'll never be a humanitarian like me, fact
@KDN322 BWAHAHA xD you're hilarious. See you have bad parents for allowing kids access to the internet. How long did it take you to look up those words? Days? Hahaha it's funny how the only way you "think" you can win an arguement is by using words that contain 4 syllables am I wrong? Hahaha you're telling me that 75 is greater than 100 thousand? Japan was running low on supplies, even without the A-bomb I doubt they'd lasted a month tops. You'll never be a humanitarian like me, fact
@KDN322 Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
@KDN322 You can't win an argument just because you used a word containing 4 syllables. You cry for 75 people, I cry for 100 thousand. There was no justice for both sides. But stating the A-bomb was necessary is ignorant. Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian like me. All you want is blood
@goe5 LOL Do you understand what you're saying? You may cry for hundreds of thousands, I am happy for the millions who wern't killed from Operation Olympic and Coronet.
@paidnomind and I heard your people are the nicest people ever. In your country there's no racism, no murders, no rapes, no haters. Man I would love to become one of your clean slate people, what group of race did you belong to again? I forget
@paidnomind LoL if the Bushido code is garbage, what does that make you? A prick? The kind that disgraces others races sound like garbage to me sir. You should be proud of yourself for representing your country. Judging by your words, sounds like everybody in your country is garbage, which is hopefully not the case. Move towards peace
@goe5 There's no such thing as innocent civilians when it comes to ww2 Japan. When you support a regime that actively commits genocide in Asia and the Pacific and refuse to surrender when it clearly lost then you deserve whatever that happens to you.
Remember, the Japanese war machine lives off of the taxes and manufacturing capacity of the civilians, so they are in fact complicit in the genocide and atrocities committed by Japan.
@logan0178 you are ignorant as fuck :P You're tellin me that EVERY young small children, the elderly, and the handicaped Japanese were all corrupt? Explain that with your logic you sick fuck. Not everyone is corrupt, and at the same time not everyone is God.
@goe5 That's too bad. Until the day we have weapons that can pinpoint specific people without any possible collateral damage innocents will die.
Maybe Japan should've thought of that BEFORE it went and started a genocidal war that killed tens of millions?
You retards that speak as if Japan was a victim sicken me with your whitewashing of history. Never has a military action been more justified as this in the history of the world.
@logan0178 You fucken said quote, "There's no such thing as innocent civilians when it comes to ww2 Japan" You have way too much ignorance and pride. Japan fucking apologised for WWII and signed hundreds of peace treaties and all they asked in return was an apology from the USA, but instead USA always just try to justify it. The good should always apologise for the sake of common courtesy.
@goe5 Hey douchebag, you don't go around killing tens of millions of people in your genocidal war and get off scott free after saying "my bad".
And the poor excuse for half assed apologies Japan's put out don't count. Japan's not sorry that it comitted genocide and killed tens of millions, it's only sorry that it lost. Just look at all the douchebags like you coming out trying to make Japan the victim when its guilty of the worst atrocities in history.
@logan0178 sorry, man... FDR knew about the so-called surprise attack... it makes me sick to see people like you who distort the truth/... do you get paid for this? are you ignorant?
maybe the flag is wrapped around you too tight?
come on, share with me the secret of why so many people on ewetoob spread this shit?
Hey retard, even if he knew(which he didn't) how does that make Japan's attack and declaration of war on us OK?
Pathetic scumbags like you who support genocidal regime of Japan will come up with anything to excuse their atrocities, not matter how crazy and farfetched.
@logan0178 what's crazy is idiots like you who don't know history, besides that of your high school textbooks...
what's crazy is that the govt ls caught lying over and over people like you STILL eat it up, and you call people conspiracy theorists for questioning the official story...
it's only COMMON SENSE to ask questions.
two films for you: The new american century and the money masters, both full documentaries found right here on youtube.
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
—Henry Ford
"The real truth of the matter is... that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the US since the days of Andrew Jackson."
@logan0178 here's another nut who thinks we funded hitler:
"Through the Federal Reserve Board . . . over $30 Billion (1930) of American money has been paid into Germany . . . You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany. . . modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories. All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board."
@RevolutionNewsUS Yeah McFadden was a nutcase. He also claimed the wall street bankers were funded by the Bolsheviks. Nothing he says had any credibility and he was lucky to be a congressman for so long before being kicked out by voters for his crazy rants.
@logan0178 HA HA HA... where did you learn history... in romper room?
European and American bankers and industrialists funded both, Hitler and the Bolsheviks...They created ‘their kind of communism’ ..violent and authoritarian/totalitarian ..so that the real working class uprising could be led astray.. so, they control both sides...
Most money transaction between US and Soviet-Russia moved through JP Morgan
Ford ..General Electric etc. ..made big money with the Bolsheviks.
@RevolutionNewsUS Hey retard, maybe you haven't noticed but Iran and Iraq has nothing to do with the fact that Nukes saved millions of lives and ended WW2.
It's typical for you morons who have no real retort, you throw out strawmans.
@logan0178 you're reading history that the west wrote... I'll bet you think we saved lives in korea, vietnam, iraq, afghanistan and now libya too, right?
HA HA HA
who else can we bomb to save lives... somalia, pakistan, yemen, etc...
(hey look, I replied without using a single derogatory remark... imagine that!)
@logan0178 besides, FDR provoked the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor... sanctions are an act of war.... whether you think FDR knew of the coming attack on PH is true or not, the Americans started war with japan.
FDR had been charged in public with agitating for war since 1939....
@logan0178 where did you learn history, from you HS textbooks?
They don't mention this memo, do they?
The McCollum Memo:
H. Completely embargo all U.S. trade with Japan, in collaboration with a similar embargo imposed by the British Empire. 10. If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better. At all events we must be fully prepared to accept the threat of war.
@RevolutionNewsUS Retard, do you think the US and England decided to embargo japan just for the hell of it?
It's because Japan at that time already invaded the Asian mainland and was comitting atrocities all across korea and china moron.
Japan's been killing people en masse in Asia before Hitler even invaded Poland you unintelligent douchebag. How about you stop cherry picking history and actually learn to see the whole picture?
@logan0178 have you ever read the constitution? does it say anything about policing the world? no.
what it DOES say is that IMMINENT THREAT and/or APPROVAL of CONGRESS to DECLARE WAR.... sanctions are an act of war... and the japanese killing people in asia does not constitute a THREAT AGAINST THE US.
So... the US and England have been terrorizing, bombing, sanctioning sovereign countries for a long, long time... you have no problem with another country attacking us because of it?
@RevolutionNewsUS Hey retard, we're not policing the world moron. We had actual interests in China since it was one of the biggest trading partners of the US and England.
Japan was killing millions in Asia and all we did was embargo them. In fact it was Japan that declared war on us directly after attacking us in Pearl Harbor, retard.
You morons are so utterly brainless and devoid of basic facts it's hilarious.
@logan0178 retard, moron... we're not policing the world HA HA
do you have a problem with the constitution? when you wipe your ass with it do you do it by article or by section?
"the president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." - barry obama
FDR attacked japan first... FDR knew of the coming attack on pearl harbor....
@logan0178 you say "We had actual interests in China since it was one of the biggest trading partners of the US and UK" who is WE, the corporations or the people?
we had interests in china, yeah... the UK started the opium wars with china, flooding their country with the stuff...
the US also had interests in china and look where it got us... we buy all their crap now... does that make you happy?
japan killing millions in asia, how many millions did we kill in vietnam because of a lie? TONKIN
@RevolutionNewsUS Moron, we embargoed Japan because it took over Korea and was invading China and was comitting mass atrocities, you said Japan started the war because of the embargo and therefore it's the US's fault.
That's the most retarded excuse I've ever heard from a Jap revisionist.
And again you throw out the retarded strawman arguments because you have no argument.
Bottom line is the nukes that forced Japan to surrender saved millions of lives period.
@logan0178 bottom line is you don't give a shit about the constitution and you think policing the world is a good thing.... we had interest in china HA HA HA now look at us, we're their slaves HA HA HA
you still didn't answer my question... when you wipe your ass with the constitution do you do it by article or by section?
You don't know anything about the constitution you Jap revisionist moron.
If your version of history occurred Japan would be down several million people, and partitioned into north and south Japan ala Korea and a third world basketcase rather than an economic power that is it today.
@logan0178 I know that an oil embargo is an act of war and that congress needs to declare war... any 5th grader can look it up.
it's ok with you that the US govt kills millions of muslims and southeast asians... so you have no problem with them attacking the United States... do you!
HA HA HA
attack the CIA since they are responsible for the deaths of over 8 million people worldwide! right?
no... you don't care about the CIA... they're the good guys! HA HA HA
@RevolutionNewsUS Hey moron, obviously you are not even at a 5th grade level if you think embargo is an act of war.
It's not an act of war you retard, you have it confused with a blockade.
The embargo was just a strong diplomatic measure imposed on Japan in response to it's atrocities and invasions in Asia in WW2 moron.
You're a pathetic revisionist without a shred of facts. Bottom line that the nukes saved millions of Japanese lives and prevented a partial Sovet occupation.
@logan0178 "You're just another american who is willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick being shoved up your asshole every day... The owners of this country know the truth... it's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it!"
@logan0178 this is my final message to you... ron paul, judge napolitano and the BBC seem to know WHY we got into war with japan and know WHY sanctions are an act of war...
please stop writing me and write to ron paul at ronpaul2012 and judge nap at fox news... you can call THEM idiots and morons HA HA HA
Napolitano: "FDR Maneuvered Japanese Into Attacking Pearl Harbor"
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
@logan0178 What a retarded (il)logic you have - by that reasoning - EVERYONE On Earth should be killed because they have paid tax to a government that has bee involved in a war hat killed people. mORON!.
@TheLOCATION100 Hey retard, how about you get above a single digit IQ before retorting with your moronic drivel? There were no magical weapons that only killed Japanese war criminals. And since they were in Power and the Japanese citizens supported them and wouldn't surrender collateral damage happens.
Why do you think Japan didn't surrender even after the first nuke retard? They were willing to fight to the last Jap BECAUSE THEY SUPPORTED THE GENOCIDAL REGIME.
I see how you people are saying that they killed INNOCents AMERICAn SOLIDERS. emphasis on the SOLDIERS not the INNOCENT PEOPLE! so the nuclear bomb killed more innocent people than SOLDIERS. SOLDERs are prepared to die not the regular americans where none were so stop this was not right to drop the bomb.
@Namitamakifan there were a lot of civilians killed, but they were civilians that worked on military factories and stuff. they wouldnt have released it in a normal city, or a fort. forts are to hard to get and civilian casualties is pretty much wasting ammo, because you dont make japan weaker by killing everyone except their soldiers. it was the production that the cities had.
@NevinJarek You can end wars by killing civilians and scaring the shit out of them so that they turn against their Govt inorder to end the violence. Its a standard military tactic thats used to this very day in Iraq and Afghanistan.
What I want to see from the "Why the Bomb?" side is what they think would have worked to get Japan to surrender
I'm all ears
sol3a1 1 month ago
I have a better title for this video. Why Nanking? Why Vietnam? The Japanese Did worse things.
CptQuestionMark 3 months ago
LISTEN!
Now, i think America could of done something else, not as horrid as this.
But before u say 'Japan deserved it!' Or 'Fuk america!' Think about all the good America has done, now we all have done something bad! EVEN AMERICA!
Germany, France, Italy, Iraq! EVERYONE!
Now, think of all the good america has done!
Help countries in need!
PRESERVE WILDLIFE!
Save lives! All countries have done something bad! But think of the good we have done.
PLZ understand.
Twisty1104 4 months ago
@BayernMunichFans Well, I'm in the military, so I don't have the luxury of the fantasy world you live in. When given the choice between the lives of fellow American soldiers, and civilians of the nation we are at war with, I will always choose American soldiers. To choose any differently would result in you losing the freedom to live in your world of rainbows and unicorns.
MrBobbyhurley 4 months ago
@BayernMunichFans Many cities were bombed during WWII but it's only when the bombing raid are effective that there is such a backlash of from amateur historians. As we know bombs are by their nature indiscriminate. These people died because the emperor didn't care about Japanese civilians.
iMaDeMoN2012 4 months ago
Nonsense...old farts in ties.
iMaDeMoN2012 4 months ago
@BayernMunichFans
In 9/11 the "terrorists" came in our land and killed alot of our people. You know what 911 is? Thats the number we called for help. Police, fireman and ambulance. This was planned out and the "terrorists" had no problem killing themselves to take out all those people who were lost. We don't enjoy killing people. Im sorry that Americans hurt you in a way. I really don't know why Americans did what they did at that time, but we don't want to hurt anyone like we did then.
RustyHutto1 4 months ago
The usa used a nuclear bomb because they messed up at pearl harbor. So we hit them hard and sent a message to the world a message, "Don't fuck with us."
RustyHutto1 5 months ago
2:20 i can't believe how casually he's talking about the use of an atomic bomb. American politicians need to get over their egos and realise these are peoples lives their playing with, not a bunch of chips at a poker table. It's disgusting to watch.
ti3nt 6 months ago
One has to wonder how an idiot like John Dower manages to become an M.I.T. professor. He's twisted the facts around to support his own tired conspiracy theory. We would have much rather have had Japan surrender without actually using atomic weapons. Japan refused to surrender and that's an irrefutable fact. I guess we should have sacrificed thousands more American and Japanese lives invading Japan. Seriously, how do fools like that become university professors?! Pretty scary.
FlyBraniff 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Not all of the sources on google are credible dumbass. Maybe if you completed your first year of High School you would know that. See on google anyone can create a website and spew their own false "facts".
Awesomechild96 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS We are currently imposing a trade embargo on Iran, so are you saying that we are at war with them? Would it be our fault if they bombed a military base in our country? Could they justify it by saying that we commited the first act of war?
And where exactly did you get all of this information about FDR? I'd love to see how credible your source is...
Awesomechild96 6 months ago
@Awesomechild96 I don't know dude, don't take an asswipe's opinion like mine... just look it up... ever heard of google?
we setup saddam then bombed him... we sanctioned iraq and 500,000 iraqi children died.... so that's ok with you? that's not an act of war?
we setup the vietnamese at tonkin gulf and 3,000,000 people died... is that ok with you?
info about FDR??? it's easy... it's called GOOGLE.
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@Awesomechild96
Ron Paul (strict constitutionalist): Iran Sanctions = Act of War
/watch?v=vIO-4v8qpYc
BBC: Sacrifice at pearl harbor... don't use the BBC as the source... check their sources:
/watch?v=viW7JkASxoY
REAL News @ RevolutionNews.US
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS OMG, you're an idiot too! Oh that's right, FDR was the anti-christ and poor picked-on Japan was just another of our innocent victims. Normally I wouldn't bother to read prattle like yours. Unfortunately the ignorant and uneducated actually believes a fool like you.
FlyBraniff 6 months ago
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@FlyBraniff please stop writing me and write to ron paul at ronpaul2012 and judge nap at fox news... you can call THEM idiots and morons HA HA HA
Napolitano: "FDR Maneuvered Japanese Into Attacking Pearl Harbor"
watch?v=r4Y0A7-1ykA
Ron Paul Iran Sanctions = Act of War
/watch?v=vIO-4v8qpYc
REAL News @ RevolutionNews.US
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@Awesomechild96
Judge and strict constitutionalist andrew napolitano:
Napolitano: "FDR Maneuvered Japanese Into Attacking Pearl Harbor"
watch?v=r4Y0A7-1ykA
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
War is War ! It is the Only Legal-State which allows Soliders to kill Soliders .. It is Sickening even to say it but it is the World we live in. But killing Innocent Civilians, Kids, ....So that you take a short-Cut and Cheat your way in to Wining a War. I dont care of race color faith or any other aspect.
And as Atheist I always witness society presuming " if you dont believe in god you cant have any Values" But I know one thing If there were ever a god, he left after seing these events.
halukteoman 6 months ago 3
@halukteoman the usa did a terralbe thing but what about hitler!!! the us would have lost to them! fuck off the usa doing this save humanity in ww2 horrible things where done. buy what we did was nothing compaird to what they did
rune2u4u 5 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS FDR attacked Japan first? How is that? For your information, a trade embargo does not count as an attack. And if FDR knew about the attack on Pearl Harbor, then why were we caught completely unaware?
Awesomechild96 6 months ago
@Awesomechild96 been reading your american high school history book I see :(
sanctions are an act of war... and fdr knew (as many countries warned the US) of the coming attack on pearl harbor.
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@Awesomechild96 President Roosevelt (FDR) provoked the attack, knew about it in advance and covered up his failure to warn the Hawaiian commanders. FDR needed the attack to sucker Hitler to declare war, since the public and Congress were overwhelmingly against entering the war in Europe. It was his backdoor to war.
FDR blinded the commanders at Pearl Harbor and set them up.
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
IF Japan developed the A-bomb first then for sure Japan had won WWII. The surrender ceremony would held aboard the Japanese battleship Yamato at Pearl Harbor, at which the government representatives of US, Britain, China, Dutch, Australia, Canada and the rest of the Allied countries signed the Instrument of Surrender provided by the Japanese government. Eventually there would be only two countries in the world, Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany.
TectonicPower 6 months ago
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GRAVYRAQUEPz 6 months ago
The USA was absolutely right to bomb the JAPS. We saved the lives of one million Americans, ten million Japs, and a quarter of a million British. one hundred thousand Chinese were starving every month. God bless the BOMB.
cemab4y 7 months ago
That "Uranium Plant" in Oak Ridge, TN is the Y-12 complex, which maintains the US nuclear arsenal, while at the same time trying to disarm the rest of the world through political policy . There has never been a more central point in all of human evil.
dimesach 7 months ago
Japan were the Nazis of Asia. They committed genocide against the Chinese people, 100 million murdered by Japanese. The Germans apologized to the Jews. The Japanese never apologized to China for what they did. Japanese people have a superiority complex, a mental disease. In the future, China will be the one to drop another bomb on Tokyo to teach them a lesson and USA will support China.
sanfranguy9 7 months ago
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USA told Japan's leaders that they will drop the bomb so they should surrender now and prevent deaths. After having much time to think about it, Japan's leaders said "no way", go ahead and drop the bomb. USA did. Japan crawled on her knees and surrendered to USA. Thus, Japan's leaders are directly responsible for the deaths in the Japan as they could have prevented it.
oasdfo3 7 months ago
all i know and care about is we got the bomb, we dropped them...the war ended, we won. soldiers died. women and children died. and that's a sad fact of war....people die....
now can't we all sit back and smoke a joint and get over all this petty B.S.???...lolol
bonscott01 7 months ago
what can we consider fare? when some one figth with other, in the same condition, or a nation can figth with other economically similar, or similiar conditions, no just because your economy harm the "global stability" , USA goberment send people to other nation and say to the president or you fuck your country, or we fuck you, why castro is not part of your "liberty" plan? the the Statue of Liberty, what it says is just hypocrisy, all nations have killed, and for them, is fare
MinaLainey 7 months ago
what is fare? what we consider fare, is what morality told us to see as a fare reson to kill, the United states citizens, because America is all the continent, not just 1 part, they see fare, to throw a atomic bomb, i dont wanna sound paranoic but this is the beginning of a world domination, United states citizens, you want all the people to be free, but, even you are not free, my goberment is bad, but yours are worst,
MinaLainey 7 months ago
@robbytrump the first step I am taking is to find a way through a seemingly solid wall of indifference. That is a much harder challenge than the steps which would follow.
j101saar 7 months ago
This clearly opinion what he is saying. Otherwise please quote and cite the scientist or scientists by name who said " We have got to hurry up and use it". Revisionist history at the hand of the crazy liberals. Please shut up!
giannivee1 8 months ago
0:57 - 1:04 . FUCKING MAKES ME SICK TO BE AN AMERICAN!
5pac3c0w60y 8 months ago 5
@5pac3c0w60y Why? Your comment is very strange.
howiseethings 7 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y And that's how they play the classic guilt trip. Please, do yourself a favor, and don't fall for it.
Hectorogents 5 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y If YOU were a true American you would not say such a faggot comment.
ke4bss 5 months ago
@ke4bss i am 75% German, 18% European, and 2% Native American. and even though i am a Texan, i was just born here. ppl, no matter where they come from can do horrible things with even the best intentions.
5pac3c0w60y 5 months ago
@ke4bss and i believe you are the homosexual sir, now good day.
5pac3c0w60y 5 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y If I am a homo? then Blow me Untermentch!
ke4bss 5 months ago
@ke4bss oh pour baby, unter deiner huat? I Said Good Day!
5pac3c0w60y 5 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y Das Yuda Rous, Schnell!
ke4bss 5 months ago
@ke4bss thats not even a word you dumb fuck. unter deiner huat is a phrase for "am i under your skin". what the fuck were you trying to say?
5pac3c0w60y 5 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y then don't be an american, you're free to go elsewhere. The fact is, when you're at war, there are no "innocents". Everyone was contributing to the war effort in same way. Also, regardless of how many foreign vs american lives are lost, during war american lives are more valuable. Further, even after the second bomb, there was a considerable attempt by japanese generals to prevent surrender.
MrBobbyhurley 5 months ago
@MrBobbyhurley are you that dumb? "american lives are more valuable" like really, who the fuck says that you ignoramus.
5pac3c0w60y 5 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y I believe the caveat to that statement was "during war". When two countries are at war, obviously, you have to place a higher value on the lives of your own people. WWII was a war of attrition- supplies, equipment, and unfortunately, people.
MrBobbyhurley 5 months ago
@MrBobbyhurley sir, it doesn't matter where you come from, what race you are, if you've graduated from high school or not, if you don't have a job, living on the streets asking for money, old n' cenial, lost two teeth in a fight, does some ice and blow. no matter what time it is, were all one and the same.
5pac3c0w60y 5 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y if we are....or were...all one and the same, we would not have been at war to begin with, We were at war with Japan because we are not japanese, correct?
MrBobbyhurley 5 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y I completely and totally agree with you, the president was thinking of himself, he said he was protecting americans when in fact he was protecting himself... I can't go on, I'm so pissed off
raeven1212 5 months ago
@raeven1212 your full of shit. 600000000+ people lost in ww2, those numbers would have been FAR higher if we had to invade japan because every man woman and child would be fighting to the death in that fanaticall nation. they would have lost most of their population by the end and we would have lost well over a milion troops. and if japan had the bomb it would have been used on us.
TheTeddyguy 3 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y Move to Iraq, where your forced to pay a 20% tax, and give refugee to taliban scum, with guns pointed at your head, Your better off their if your so sick.
Airshot06 4 months ago
@5pac3c0w60y why? because this idiots opinion based on no facts makes you feel bad that we killed people who would have killed our troops without thinking twice? you make me sick that you are an american
TheTeddyguy 3 months ago
@TheTeddyguy i am sick that i am too. but i was just reborn..... looks like your the american now....
5pac3c0w60y 2 months ago
In fact, the bombs that fell on Hiroshima and Nagasaki did not forestall an invasion of Japan because no invasion was necessary. The Japanese were on the verge of surrender, and American military leaders knew that. General Eisenhower, briefed by Secretary of War Henry Stimson on the imminent use of the bomb, told him that "Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary."
TheBlackSedan 8 months ago
Most of you people are re peddling the same old crap that was told to my parents to make them feel all warm and fuzzy after the deed was done.What you should do is try to imagine the same thing happening to america. Half the population of 67 cities killed and mostly burned alive. Grandmas children babies not soldiers and as far as im concerned not necessary.
tropicbum62 8 months ago
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Most beautiful scene ever on earth!
Yet the bombs should also be sent to Tokyo where the Head officials of the military government was, and Kyoto as well as Nara, the cradle of Japanese civilisation.
Half their population.
Cut off their government.
Uproot their culture.
That's what the fucking Japanese deserve.
scholarmark 8 months ago
god ,jesus, holy spirit , mary all the angels and saints were watchin it all , like russia and china today there being watched god sees all
mufc99ok 8 months ago
all the wars which thou they are and their motives will always be stupid
extintornacueca 8 months ago
I wonder how many of the people who died in Hiroshima cheered the day they heard about the Japanes Naval victory at Pearl Harbor? The Empire of Japan was our Enemy, not the soldiers but the entire empire. Oh you wanna talk about civilians, well lets go ask the women of Nanjing about how the Japanese treated civilians, considering the raped an estimated 60,000 of them in a 6 week period and killed an estimated 200,000 chinese civilians as well. Dont start a fight, then bitch about losing.
TheButtur123 8 months ago
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@TheButtur123 Not you again. Get a clue.
Scootertuner1000 7 months ago
Japan was finished. Most of the US casualties were the result of McArthurs insistance on taking back the Solomons against the advice of his comtemporys. When the nukes became available why was it so urgent to use them as Japan was, by then, totally isolated?
H & N were not attacked when just about every other city and large town were bombed, why were they kept in pristine condition?
Truth is they were selected as nuclear test sites early in the war as a show of power to the Russians.
TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 *MacArthur* insisted on retaking the *Philippines*.
What better choice did Truman have? Compromise peace?Jmilitary retains power & plansPacificWar Ii
Invade? 240,000 died on Okinawa. Kyushu's garrison was >x10 larger. Do the math.
Blockade? How many MILLIONS of J civilians would have starved (along with 100,000Allied POWs & 100,000 civilian internees) before hirohito gave the order to surrender?
You don't like that H&N got nuked? Too bad h didn't surrender earlier
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell
Funny how they kept their emporer after the nuclear bombing when the yanks were having none of it before.
TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 "none of it before"? Wrong answer! US policy was silent on the emporer throughout the war.. However, as early as April,1942, the Doolittle Raiders were ordered not tobomb the Imperial Palace because the emporer "might be useful later" As indeed he was-as collaborator in chief.
Honestly, haven't you ever heard the story that after Admiral Halsey learned that it was US policy not to bomb the palace,he told reporters that he was planning to ride hirohito's white horse?
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell
And there was me thinking they did not target the cheif Japanese war criminal directly because the animalistic murdering scum that comprised the then Japanese armed forces would have meeted out a terrible vengence on all POWs.
But I stand by my comments. H & N were intentionally never attacked with conventional bombing so that two radically different designs of nuke could be given a live testing over real cities. Luckily the war was not quite over when they were ready.
TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
@kentamitchell
Yes he '' might be useful later''. By 1945 Japan had been discounted as any kind of threat to the free world but Russia was a formidable power. No-one had any illusions about Stalin and had he chosen to forget about the Potsdam agreement there is nothing the west could have done to stop him over running Europe. My own feeling is that Japan would have warmed to the west in the post war era even quicker had they strung Hiroshito up in 1945. He was a weak medeival dinosaur.
TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 If you think hirohito deserved the hangman's noose (along with a*bunch* of his uncles)you are preaching to the choir.
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell
The Japanese people were trapped by a medeival system of dictatorship with a perverted idea of honour that was based on racism ... much like the twisted Darwinism that engulfed Germany. But nothing can ever justify the orgy of genecide that was inflicted upon the civilian populations of both countries in the closing stages of those wars.
Surely we fought those wars because we held freedom and the right to life to be our highest ideal? In the end we were no better.
TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 "nothing can justify"? What better choice did Truman have? Compromise peace?Jmilitary retains power; starts planning Pacific War II
Invade? 240,000 died on Okinawa. Kyushu's garrison was >x10larger. Do the math!
Blockade? How many MILLIONS of J civilians would've starved (along w/100k Allied POWs & 100k civ. internees) before hirohitogave surrender order?
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 "in the end we were no better"? BULLSHIT!
J sought to rule all Asia (for starters).MacArthur gave women the vote, made tenants landowners, broke the power of the samurai class, legalized unions & free press& free elections.
Wherever J Army went,they seized grain& millions starved-in China,Vietnam,Indonesia.
When MacArthur got toJ 8/45 he found it on the brinkof famine.He cabled DC "Send me food or send me bullets" US grain shipments averted mass starvation.
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell
I am not argueing that America helped them rebuild and did the things yo say. But there was no moral high ground in carrying out the fire raids and nuking two cities. They had no military justification since the death toll was almost entirely civilian. Truman had plenty of choice over the atom bombs. The Pacific war had gone on for four years and there was no pressure to end it in a few days but he could not wait to use it.
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TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 No military justification? Hiroshima was the headquarters of the Japanese 2nd General Army under Field Marshal Hata.43,000j troops were in the city & >20,000died.
The Nagasaki bomb explded 500meters from the MitsubishiMunitions factory.
No pressure to end it? Please explain to the families of 100,000 Allied POWs & 100,000 civilian internees how long Truman should have waited.
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell
continued ......
Do you really beleive that, had the bombs been ready a few months earlier they would have been used on Germany? That they would not have detonated it over a slightly populated area to demonstrate its destructive power? The Jap military knew about the potential of a fission reaction and they would have understood and tried a lot harder to negotiate a settlement but for America there would be no peace until the Nukes were tested on real cities.
TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
@TheSpiritof1969 LOL! The old "we wouldn't have nuked Germans"canard. Sorry,you're wrong.
1. More German civilians that Japanese died in bombing raids.Tellanyone from Dresdenor Hamburg we wouldn't have nuked them
2. Read Tibbets memoirs-originally,he was tasked to train TWO bombing groups-but it became clear Germany would be defeated b4 t/bombswere ready.
3.A demonstration for the Nazis? Hell,no. There weren't enoughof them to waste.
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell
Having said all that there was a positive side to the bombings in hindsight. The horror they released was a small taste of the far greater horrors that could come and was not forgotten in the cold war years and there was speculation that Stalin was murdered after he started talking of a pre-emptive strike against the west back in the fifties. In that respect we all owe the hundreds of thousands that died at H & N, and in the years after, an eternal debt of gratitude.
TheSpiritof1969 9 months ago
its a coward action...why should involved the civilian??just because cant beat the army???
cengkenit 9 months ago
@cengkenit US forces defeated J units in EVERY battle in the last 3 years of the war.,but J govt still wouldn't surrender. 240,000died on Okinawa. Kyushu's garrison was >x10 larger. Do the math.
kentamitchell 9 months ago
even tho the goverment in Japan was on the germans side, that does not mean that the sivillian in Japan where on the same side... heal the world <3
olufsen98 9 months ago
@robbytrump Absolutely correct: the "warrior class" wanted to perpetuate a war that was clearly lost by early 1945, they couldn't have cared less for the misery they were inflicting on their own people. The USA has nothing to apologize for because, as you say, they (and we the Brits) spoke to them in a language they understood: death and destruction. The weepy apologists are living in a fantasy world, as always, entrenched in opinions that fail to take account for the realities of war.
andyhowpog 9 months ago
@robbytrump I NEVER fucking said the US was bad and Japan was good. You dumb prick. I simply said killing unarmed civilians is evil. Maybe you were totally blind in the fact that I specifically wrote "peace to the world" This is why it'll never happen, cause of haters like you still breathing on such a beautiful planet. Make peace, not war
goe5 9 months ago
@robbytrump take your blinders off ,stop believing US Propaganda
dave777blaster 9 months ago
The assertion that the US needed to drop the bomb before the war ended is contrived revisionism. The Japanese had no intent on surrendering, occupied Korea, Manchuria, most of China, with 10 Japanese Armies. The US was transporting troops from Europe for the Invasion of Japan that would occur late 1946. The Japan nation was preparing for invasion. Kyushu had 900,000 troops plus the civilians were being trained to die fighting. (US had 676,000).
Renshen1957 9 months ago
@quarterexchange Easier said than done.
cokebaronacn 9 months ago
The USA had this bomb and couldnt wait to use it. Glad I don't live in a time as ignorant as back then.
flopppy 10 months ago
@flopppy i agree.
EliManningFan896 9 months ago
Anyone wanting to have the facts behind why the bomb was used should looked into the book 'Hell to Pay: Operation DOWNFALL and the Invasion of Japan, 1945-1947' by D.M. Giangreco. It is a well researched and comprehensive look at the events leading up the bombings of Heroshima and Nagasaki and the projected Operations Olympic and Coronet.
CalicoVall 11 months ago
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Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
goe5 1 year ago
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@KDN322 Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
goe5 1 year ago
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@KDN322 Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
goe5 1 year ago
The things we do to each other and the things we created, will come back to kick us in the ass. Look at our past century on how far we came in technology. Its ignorent to think we can continue like this.
whaaatwhoe 1 year ago
WW2 is a "TOTAL WAR" anything that helps your enemies to survive and fight is a fair target... citizens (civilians) that provides weapons, food, reserves, and supports to delusions psychopaths (Hirohito) deserve to die, if killing them means I save my life and the lives of my love ones...
xwolfxwoodx 1 year ago
every one 「Barefoot gen」please read it.the story is based writer of barefootgen keiji nakazawa's true experienses. He is 71 years old now. he keep on telling us that terribly of atomicboms now too.this manga isn't for plotect Japan , able to know Japan and America's fact about Hiroshima atmicboms in those days. and Japan's did things in Asia too.There are 11 language trancelate version , now on sell in US from 2009. already,somecountrys a few library have barefootgen. please. sorry bad english.
mi622na 1 year ago
The Japanese were already willing to surrender before the bombs were dropped. This was not an issue of ending the war as they were already drafting a sirrender packet. They just wanted to keep the emperor on the throne, which the US rejected ... THAT is why atomic bombs were dropped on civilians, not to save American lives. Oh yeah, emperor Hirohito was still allowed to stay on as head of state after Japan's unconditional surrender. In other words, the bombs were dropped for nothing.
spamllpitdept 1 year ago
@spamllpitdept BULLSHIT! Read the cables btwn JForMin Togo & JambUSSR Sato. 7/45 Sato stated that J was defeated & could only hope to save the Imperial system. Togo replied that J would not accept "anything like unconditional surrender". 8/2/45 when Sato asked for J peace terms, Togo declined to state them- because there weren't any decided upon. J military was obsessed with retaining power thru a compromise peace by inflicting heavy casualties on the US invasion set for 11/45
kentamitchell 1 year ago
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@spamllpitdept "Those who seek to argue that the Japanese were ready to surrender before Hiroshima are peddlers of fantasies. True, the Tokyo leadership wanted peace, but on terms rightly unacceptable to the Allies"
-Max Hastings "Retribution" p513
Even AFTER H&N 1/2 J cbnt "Big Six" wanted
emporer remains absolute ruler
no occupation
j disarms self
No war crimes trials xcpt in J tribunals
Truman made the right decision. Too bad we didn't have the A bombs in 12/41.
kentamitchell 1 year ago 8
@kentamitchell stfu ur truely an dolt
bannyloren100 9 months ago
@bannyloren100 LOL! At least I know how to spell "truly". I also know the rules for using a and an. You are semiliterate *dolt*. You are also *an* idiot.
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell w/e ur an american faggit
bannyloren100 9 months ago
@bannyloren100 They're called GED classes-look into them!
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell stfu ur a fuckign noob
bannyloren100 9 months ago
@bannyloren100 Is English your first language? Your elementary school teachers must be *so* disappointed in you!
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell like i said stfu you fucking noob
bannyloren100 9 months ago
@bannyloren100 Oh, look everybody! Oscar Wilde just joined the party! Dazzle us with your bon mots,Oscar!
kentamitchell 9 months ago
@kentamitchell stfu fuck you
bannyloren100 9 months ago
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kentamitchell 9 months ago
Had to get their moneys worth...Total BS! Had the Japanese surrendered prior, they would of released film of it's capabilities, that would be enough.
Reverendjim1 1 year ago
What a bunch of leftist propaganda. The Japanese had two chances to surrender before and after Hiroshima. It took the Nakasaki Bomb and the Soviet declaration of war to make the leaders save their people. American lives lost in gaining surrender very few, Some POW's were killed by the blasts. You are truly Vermin for trying to twist the reality of reasoning for bombing japan.
Reverendjim1 1 year ago
There is no honor in killing unarmed civilians that had nothing to do with the war...Peace to the world
goe5 1 year ago 35
@goe5
Yeah Japan would of never done that!
cough..pearl harbor..cough
KDN322 1 year ago
@KDN322 Read a book fucking retard. Japan attacked soldiers and air bases, they didn't aim at elders, women, childeren, schools, or libraries. And fyi only 75 civilians were killed in Pearl Harbor, 100 thousand Japanese civilians were burned alive in Hiroshima. cough cough what's with that? You in elementary school?
goe5 1 year ago
@goe5
Only 75? Oh yeah thats nothing. 75 innocent people killed for no fucking reason, not counting the soldiers. And I wonder how many more would of died if we didn't drop the bomb. That bomb won us the war. And yes I am in elementary school and I thought the coughing added a certain mansuetude alluding to my point which you would of realized if you weren't suffering from the symptoms of a perpetual katzenjammer
KDN322 1 year ago
@KDN322 BWAHAHA xD you're hilarious. See you have bad parents for allowing kids access to the internet. How long did it take you to look up those words? Days? Hahaha it's funny how the only way you "think" you can win an arguement is by using words that contain 4 syllables am I wrong? Hahaha you're telling me that 75 is greater than 100 thousand? Japan was running low on supplies, even without the A-bomb I doubt they'd lasted a month tops. You'll never be a humanitarian like me, fact
goe5 1 year ago
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@KDN322 BWAHAHA xD you're hilarious. See you have bad parents for allowing kids access to the internet. How long did it take you to look up those words? Days? Hahaha it's funny how the only way you "think" you can win an arguement is by using words that contain 4 syllables am I wrong? Hahaha you're telling me that 75 is greater than 100 thousand? Japan was running low on supplies, even without the A-bomb I doubt they'd lasted a month tops. You'll never be a humanitarian like me, fact
goe5 1 year ago
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goe5 1 year ago
@KDN322 Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian. BWAHAHAHA xD sorry to burst you're highly "intelligent" vocab skills, but the other fact I must state is that you CAN'T win an argument by using words containing 4 syllables. That only makes you seem foolish. You're crying over 75 people am I wrong? Well what about my comparison of 100 thousand innocent children, women, men, and the elderly being nuked the fuck out? Are you saying that your 75 people are more valluable than 100 thousand?
goe5 1 year ago
@KDN322 You can't win an argument just because you used a word containing 4 syllables. You cry for 75 people, I cry for 100 thousand. There was no justice for both sides. But stating the A-bomb was necessary is ignorant. Fact: You'll NEVER be a humanitarian like me. All you want is blood
goe5 1 year ago
@goe5 LOL Do you understand what you're saying? You may cry for hundreds of thousands, I am happy for the millions who wern't killed from Operation Olympic and Coronet.
CalicoVall 11 months ago
@CalicoVall Good for you LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
goe5 11 months ago
@goe5 T_T And here I was being serious.... XP
CalicoVall 11 months ago
@goe5 Japanese were the professionals of killing, torturing, and raping unarmed civilians.
paidnomind 1 year ago
@paidnomind and I heard your people are the nicest people ever. In your country there's no racism, no murders, no rapes, no haters. Man I would love to become one of your clean slate people, what group of race did you belong to again? I forget
goe5 1 year ago
@goe5 dosen't matter, you can keep loving Japan or to be a Japanese wannabe, that's fine with me. Our country don't need any bushido garbages.
paidnomind 1 year ago
@paidnomind LoL if the Bushido code is garbage, what does that make you? A prick? The kind that disgraces others races sound like garbage to me sir. You should be proud of yourself for representing your country. Judging by your words, sounds like everybody in your country is garbage, which is hopefully not the case. Move towards peace
goe5 1 year ago
@goe5 I agree, but if we didn't drop the bombs more civilians and soldiers would die.
EEVEEdude11 10 months ago
@goe5 war is payed with taxes. sorry just the truth.
pretendosse 9 months ago
@goe5 There's no such thing as innocent civilians when it comes to ww2 Japan. When you support a regime that actively commits genocide in Asia and the Pacific and refuse to surrender when it clearly lost then you deserve whatever that happens to you.
Remember, the Japanese war machine lives off of the taxes and manufacturing capacity of the civilians, so they are in fact complicit in the genocide and atrocities committed by Japan.
logan0178 8 months ago
@logan0178 you are ignorant as fuck :P You're tellin me that EVERY young small children, the elderly, and the handicaped Japanese were all corrupt? Explain that with your logic you sick fuck. Not everyone is corrupt, and at the same time not everyone is God.
goe5 8 months ago
@goe5 That's too bad. Until the day we have weapons that can pinpoint specific people without any possible collateral damage innocents will die.
Maybe Japan should've thought of that BEFORE it went and started a genocidal war that killed tens of millions?
You retards that speak as if Japan was a victim sicken me with your whitewashing of history. Never has a military action been more justified as this in the history of the world.
logan0178 8 months ago
@logan0178 You fucken said quote, "There's no such thing as innocent civilians when it comes to ww2 Japan" You have way too much ignorance and pride. Japan fucking apologised for WWII and signed hundreds of peace treaties and all they asked in return was an apology from the USA, but instead USA always just try to justify it. The good should always apologise for the sake of common courtesy.
goe5 8 months ago
@goe5 Hey douchebag, you don't go around killing tens of millions of people in your genocidal war and get off scott free after saying "my bad".
And the poor excuse for half assed apologies Japan's put out don't count. Japan's not sorry that it comitted genocide and killed tens of millions, it's only sorry that it lost. Just look at all the douchebags like you coming out trying to make Japan the victim when its guilty of the worst atrocities in history.
logan0178 8 months ago
@logan0178 sorry, man... FDR knew about the so-called surprise attack... it makes me sick to see people like you who distort the truth/... do you get paid for this? are you ignorant?
maybe the flag is wrapped around you too tight?
come on, share with me the secret of why so many people on ewetoob spread this shit?
eh?
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Great, another conspiracy nut.
Hey retard, even if he knew(which he didn't) how does that make Japan's attack and declaration of war on us OK?
Pathetic scumbags like you who support genocidal regime of Japan will come up with anything to excuse their atrocities, not matter how crazy and farfetched.
logan0178 7 months ago
@logan0178 what's crazy is idiots like you who don't know history, besides that of your high school textbooks...
what's crazy is that the govt ls caught lying over and over people like you STILL eat it up, and you call people conspiracy theorists for questioning the official story...
it's only COMMON SENSE to ask questions.
two films for you: The new american century and the money masters, both full documentaries found right here on youtube.
idiot.
watch?v=2Fk6qkHs0oM
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
@logan0178 I suppose you buy the official 911 story?
I suppose you buy the official vietnam gulf of tonkin incident?
I suppose you buy the sinking of the USS lusitania?
I suppose you buy the bin laden burial at sea?
I suppose you think the US killing of 500,000 children thru sanctions alone isn't worse than 3,000 office workers being blown up by demolitions?
I suppose you think rewarding military contracts to companies that traffic in little girls is ok?
watch?v=Px1t1-a9uxk
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
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@logan0178 here's a few conspiracy nuts for you:
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
—Henry Ford
"The real truth of the matter is... that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the US since the days of Andrew Jackson."
—FDR
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RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
@logan0178 here's another nut who thinks we funded hitler:
"Through the Federal Reserve Board . . . over $30 Billion (1930) of American money has been paid into Germany . . . You have all heard of the spending that has taken place in Germany. . . modernistic dwellings, her great planetariums, her gymnasiums, her swimming pools, her fine public highways, her perfect factories. All this was done on our money. All this was given to Germany through the Federal Reserve Board."
-Congressman McFadden
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Yeah McFadden was a nutcase. He also claimed the wall street bankers were funded by the Bolsheviks. Nothing he says had any credibility and he was lucky to be a congressman for so long before being kicked out by voters for his crazy rants.
logan0178 7 months ago
@logan0178 HA HA HA... where did you learn history... in romper room?
European and American bankers and industrialists funded both, Hitler and the Bolsheviks...They created ‘their kind of communism’ ..violent and authoritarian/totalitarian ..so that the real working class uprising could be led astray.. so, they control both sides...
Most money transaction between US and Soviet-Russia moved through JP Morgan
Ford ..General Electric etc. ..made big money with the Bolsheviks.
IDIOTS!
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
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RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
@logan0178 I suppose you don't know that the US funded both iran and iraq during the iran iraq war?
I suppose you don't know about obama giving the taliban $1 billion as a bribe?
I suppose you don't know about obama funding al-cia-da in libya?
I suppose you get all your news from obama and the pentagon?
HA HA HA
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS, WOW, You sure know your history. Do you teach?
interr28 7 months ago
@interr28 I learn
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Hey retard, maybe you haven't noticed but Iran and Iraq has nothing to do with the fact that Nukes saved millions of lives and ended WW2.
It's typical for you morons who have no real retort, you throw out strawmans.
logan0178 6 months ago
@logan0178 you're reading history that the west wrote... I'll bet you think we saved lives in korea, vietnam, iraq, afghanistan and now libya too, right?
HA HA HA
who else can we bomb to save lives... somalia, pakistan, yemen, etc...
(hey look, I replied without using a single derogatory remark... imagine that!)
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@logan0178 besides, FDR provoked the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor... sanctions are an act of war.... whether you think FDR knew of the coming attack on PH is true or not, the Americans started war with japan.
FDR had been charged in public with agitating for war since 1939....
HOW MANY LIVES WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVED, SMART GUY?
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@logan0178 where did you learn history, from you HS textbooks?
They don't mention this memo, do they?
The McCollum Memo:
H. Completely embargo all U.S. trade with Japan, in collaboration with a similar embargo imposed by the British Empire. 10. If by these means Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better. At all events we must be fully prepared to accept the threat of war.
- H. McCollum
now go back to sleep, ewe!
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Retard, do you think the US and England decided to embargo japan just for the hell of it?
It's because Japan at that time already invaded the Asian mainland and was comitting atrocities all across korea and china moron.
Japan's been killing people en masse in Asia before Hitler even invaded Poland you unintelligent douchebag. How about you stop cherry picking history and actually learn to see the whole picture?
logan0178 6 months ago
@logan0178 you have no idea what you're talking about
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@logan0178 have you ever read the constitution? does it say anything about policing the world? no.
what it DOES say is that IMMINENT THREAT and/or APPROVAL of CONGRESS to DECLARE WAR.... sanctions are an act of war... and the japanese killing people in asia does not constitute a THREAT AGAINST THE US.
So... the US and England have been terrorizing, bombing, sanctioning sovereign countries for a long, long time... you have no problem with another country attacking us because of it?
HA HA HA
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Hey retard, we're not policing the world moron. We had actual interests in China since it was one of the biggest trading partners of the US and England.
Japan was killing millions in Asia and all we did was embargo them. In fact it was Japan that declared war on us directly after attacking us in Pearl Harbor, retard.
You morons are so utterly brainless and devoid of basic facts it's hilarious.
logan0178 6 months ago
@logan0178 retard, moron... we're not policing the world HA HA
do you have a problem with the constitution? when you wipe your ass with it do you do it by article or by section?
"the president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation." - barry obama
FDR attacked japan first... FDR knew of the coming attack on pearl harbor....
now screw off moron, retard
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@logan0178 you say "We had actual interests in China since it was one of the biggest trading partners of the US and UK" who is WE, the corporations or the people?
we had interests in china, yeah... the UK started the opium wars with china, flooding their country with the stuff...
the US also had interests in china and look where it got us... we buy all their crap now... does that make you happy?
japan killing millions in asia, how many millions did we kill in vietnam because of a lie? TONKIN
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Moron, we embargoed Japan because it took over Korea and was invading China and was comitting mass atrocities, you said Japan started the war because of the embargo and therefore it's the US's fault.
That's the most retarded excuse I've ever heard from a Jap revisionist.
And again you throw out the retarded strawman arguments because you have no argument.
Bottom line is the nukes that forced Japan to surrender saved millions of lives period.
logan0178 6 months ago
@logan0178 bottom line is you don't give a shit about the constitution and you think policing the world is a good thing.... we had interest in china HA HA HA now look at us, we're their slaves HA HA HA
you still didn't answer my question... when you wipe your ass with the constitution do you do it by article or by section?
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS
You don't know anything about the constitution you Jap revisionist moron.
If your version of history occurred Japan would be down several million people, and partitioned into north and south Japan ala Korea and a third world basketcase rather than an economic power that is it today.
logan0178 6 months ago
@logan0178 I know that an oil embargo is an act of war and that congress needs to declare war... any 5th grader can look it up.
it's ok with you that the US govt kills millions of muslims and southeast asians... so you have no problem with them attacking the United States... do you!
HA HA HA
attack the CIA since they are responsible for the deaths of over 8 million people worldwide! right?
no... you don't care about the CIA... they're the good guys! HA HA HA
RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
@RevolutionNewsUS Hey moron, obviously you are not even at a 5th grade level if you think embargo is an act of war.
It's not an act of war you retard, you have it confused with a blockade.
The embargo was just a strong diplomatic measure imposed on Japan in response to it's atrocities and invasions in Asia in WW2 moron.
You're a pathetic revisionist without a shred of facts. Bottom line that the nukes saved millions of Japanese lives and prevented a partial Sovet occupation.
logan0178 6 months ago
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@logan0178 "You're just another american who is willfully ignorant of the big red, white and blue dick being shoved up your asshole every day... The owners of this country know the truth... it's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it!"
—George Carlin
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RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
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@logan0178 this is my final message to you... ron paul, judge napolitano and the BBC seem to know WHY we got into war with japan and know WHY sanctions are an act of war...
please stop writing me and write to ron paul at ronpaul2012 and judge nap at fox news... you can call THEM idiots and morons HA HA HA
Napolitano: "FDR Maneuvered Japanese Into Attacking Pearl Harbor"
watch?v=r4Y0A7-1ykA
Ron Paul Iran Sanctions = Act of War
/watch?v=vIO-4v8qpYc
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RevolutionNewsUS 6 months ago
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@logan0178 another nut:
“Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
@logan0178 What a retarded (il)logic you have - by that reasoning - EVERYONE On Earth should be killed because they have paid tax to a government that has bee involved in a war hat killed people. mORON!.
TheLOCATION100 7 months ago
@TheLOCATION100 Hey retard, how about you get above a single digit IQ before retorting with your moronic drivel? There were no magical weapons that only killed Japanese war criminals. And since they were in Power and the Japanese citizens supported them and wouldn't surrender collateral damage happens.
Why do you think Japan didn't surrender even after the first nuke retard? They were willing to fight to the last Jap BECAUSE THEY SUPPORTED THE GENOCIDAL REGIME.
logan0178 7 months ago
@logan0178 yeah, why would anyone believe these scholars in the film when they have a charming guy like ewe to get the facts from?
RevolutionNewsUS 7 months ago
simply horrific shit!
jocelyna38 1 year ago
I see how you people are saying that they killed INNOCents AMERICAn SOLIDERS. emphasis on the SOLDIERS not the INNOCENT PEOPLE! so the nuclear bomb killed more innocent people than SOLDIERS. SOLDERs are prepared to die not the regular americans where none were so stop this was not right to drop the bomb.
Namitamakifan 1 year ago
@Namitamakifan there were a lot of civilians killed, but they were civilians that worked on military factories and stuff. they wouldnt have released it in a normal city, or a fort. forts are to hard to get and civilian casualties is pretty much wasting ammo, because you dont make japan weaker by killing everyone except their soldiers. it was the production that the cities had.
NevinJarek 1 year ago
@NevinJarek You can end wars by killing civilians and scaring the shit out of them so that they turn against their Govt inorder to end the violence. Its a standard military tactic thats used to this very day in Iraq and Afghanistan.
MiClLC 1 year ago