@Crunchy68 rawr... sorry, next time when I have more than a day to write it, and a professional label backing me instead of just my one microphone, then I will make a better song. Next time, just try not to watch it. Also, It will be even LESS boring to not comment on how bored you were.
@eddygoombah I wasn't trying to be mean. Just pointing out that a person doesn't have to be a YEC to dislike an anti-creationist video.
Adapting a "schoolhouse rock" theme to evolution was a cool idea, and I was looking forward to hearing it. But hearing "intelligent design" just repeated over and over got old. So no, I didn't even bother to finish watching.
And yes, I WOULD look forward to hearing you produce something that you spent more than one day on, with or without a label.
@Crunchy68 then what are you still doing here wasting even more of your precious time?
Do yourself a favor, leave this video, and make your own opus and post it on YouTube. I am dying to see what a true songwriter could do in 24 hrs. I can't wait!
@eddygoombah I'm not a songwriter. I can't even make videos. I didn't think I was wasting my time by giving constructive criticism. I'm not trolling you, I'm trying to be helpful. I don't see why you're so confrontational about this. But sure, I'll leave you alone from now on. You obviously don't want any input.
@Crunchy68 saying something is boring is not constructive criticism. You might as well say a building is ugly. How does this help the architect? It doesn't. It can only make the architect feel bad, or show that you know little about subjective appreciation for structural design.
so, if this was you trying to be helpful, i suggest you stop before you piss someone off. I'm just giving some constructive criticism...
1:44 what fact... evolution is a theory not fact... ask a scientist. there is some evidence that could go towards evolution... not much but there is some, just as there is some for intelligent design. also 2:55 what are you talking about here? have you ever really read the bible of just taking what other people say about it? and evolution itself goes against the God of the bible?
and where did you get a 6 billion year figure? That's funny, because the earth is only 4.2 Billion years old.
what facts do you have besides a 2000 year old over edited retranslated self fulfilling book that was written by superstitious bronze age desert men? any facts at all?
i never said 6 billion years i said six literal day as in genesis chapter 1
how about 1.4 million years back in time life would not be able to exist because the moon would be to close to the earth... or did you forget that the moon moves 3.8 cm away from the earth every year.
geological layering are you for real... the same geological layering that has trees and fossils going through multiple layers...
you know you actually need to back up your claims... like that the moon has moved away at that distance at a constant rate from the beginning, and anyone claiming that trees growing through layers of strata disproves a 4.2 Billion year old earth doesn't know anything about geology.
you also seemed to ignore genetic drift, observed speciation events, human chromosome #2, radiometric dating, etc... stop watching Kent Hovind seminars and crack open a science book.
So-called "polystrate" trees are not a problem. They invariably occur in river floodplain or swamp deposits where sediment layers can be accumulated relatively quickly and where anoxic conditions lead to a diminishment of microbial activity (the kinds of microbes that cause the tree trunk and roots to "rot."
Young Earth Creationists claim that all sedimentary rocks were formed in the Biblical flood. This ignores the fact that there are erosional planes that occur between any sedimentary layers, and often the underlying layers are tilted by tectonic forces before the later sediments were laid down. It also ignores that there are volcanic ash layers that interrupt the sedimentary layers at many levels.
In science, "theories" outrank facts because a theory is an explanation of many facts. But you are incorrect; evolution is an established fact, except for rigid, often uneducated, adherents of one ancient superstition or another. The Theory of Evolution concerns how the process of evolution occurs.
genocide??? dont forget Genesis, Revelation Judges and what not... I'm not God so I cant fully answer for Him, but I will say that He created it, and if "it" chooses to go against God then why cant He destroy it? The people that He did destroy were evil and did horrible things to people, including men, women and children. so His punishment even through harsh and seems unright, well it is just (not fair) to the creator
So, little kids did "horrible" thing to people? How about the livestock? Sometimes he even had them killed too. By the way, what's more "horrible" than wiping out entire cities?
the reason for total elimination was because God in His all knowingness, knew that the children would be as wicked as their parents...
and about what is more horrible, read a history book, these nations would take over a country, rape the women and children, then for sport skin them alive, then use their skin to cover the walls of their newly conquered land... and half the time these people would rage war against areas just to take them over
According to the Bible, Yahweh sometimes "hardened the hearts" of the Hebrews enemies to justify slaughtering them. So couldn't a god conversely been able to soften hearts too? And there are no history books recording the flaying that you describe and much of what you describe as despicable was carried out by the ancient Jews as they committed genocide against the indigenous people of the region.
the place were God hardened a heart was pharaoh right? well then lets go over it, God gave him multiple time to let His ppl go, and the time he did harden it was to bring forth the passover, which in turn brought forth Christ's coming, i.e. because Christ is the sacrifice lamb of God... the passover lamb, the first born of his family.
look up history of the Babylonians, Assyrians and what not. i never said Israel was a perfect people! next you contradict yourself,
Actually, Jesus was an unhinged Jewish apocalypticist who ran afoul of the authorities and got nailed to a tree. Best thing that ever happened to him. Then his followers and their descendants stole some stories from the Cult of Mithras, grafted on such commonplace "god-stuff" like a virgin birth, a bit of symbolic, ritualized cannibilism, and voila: "The Son of God" and the most popular death cult going today.
wow that sounds almost word for word from that BS movie religulous... wow if you are going to claim something back it up!!
what happen to His body? did 11 scared fishers over power 12+ highly trained, fully armed guards? or did they do it when the guards were asleep, (the guards) knowing fully that sleeping on the "job" is punishable by death? cannibilism? i'm going to guess you mean communion???? i am not catholic, the bread is not His body but a symbol of His... next Cult of Mithras came
I presume his followers bribed the guards and then stole it. Speaking of the body, according to the Gospels, how many people went to the grave and found it empty? What did they see when they got there? Compare each of the gospels for what they say about that. The exercise might surprise you.
According to Matthew, Jesus was born during hte reign of Herod the great. Herod died in 4 BCE. According to Luke, Jesus was born when Quirinius was Governor of Syria. Quirinius became Governor of Syria in 6 CE. What's up with that?
What does Paul say about his actions immediately following his experience on the road to Damascus? What does the Book of Acts say was his first act after his experience on the Road to Damascus?
Matthew and Luke both give genealogies for Jesus, through Joseph to show he was decended from the line of David. Why are the two genealogies different, and why genealogies through Joseph, who was purportedly not Jesus' father?
And while we're on the subject, compare the stories of the birth of Jesus and the immediate aftermath in Like and Matthew. According to the two sources, why were Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem? Where was Jesus born? What didd the family do immediately after the birth?
According to Paul letter to the Galatians (6:12) Paul says Christians shouldn't be circumcised. According to the Book of Acts (16:1-3) he circumcised his follower Timothy. What's up with that?
and about acts 16:1-3 says why he was cirumcised... because he was a greek, and for the jews in that area... they would not listen to any one who was not circumcised, this is not a salvation issue, but a respect issue.
YES!!!!!!!! the name calling begins. i really dont mind, so go ahead continue to make yourself look smart. but in fact every insult you give makes my smile :-) <--- like that...
so if you do have any other questions i will be happy to try to explain them.
again claims without evidence are well just that, and when you cant make a real point you go on the offense, but its all gravy, please keep it coming
I said there is no historical verification of your claims about Canaanites; and there is evidence for Hebrews independent of the Bible (like the dozens Jews I know.)
So tell me, what time of day was Jesus crucified? When was the last supper eaten, before or during Passover? The Gospels seem a bit confused on these points.
About 3pm, at supper time, can't remember it was a long time ago you know! the Gospels are left to interpretation, that's why we have 33000+Christian sects; all claiming 2 be the real christian way...LOL...Just couldn't help myself...
And speaking of Yahweh, if he intended the land of the Caaninites for the Jews, why didn't he just put them there to begin with? You think he changed his mind? Doesn't seem very godlike to me.
Actually, creationism is a subset of intelligent design. An intelligent design advocate can believe that evolution occurred as biology shows, but that it was guided or set into motion by an intelligent force.
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haha its fun to bash christianity, and its also especially fun to destroy the beliefs of the people at the hospitals who have nothing and can do nothing but sit in a bed! what am i suppose to tell my grandfather with fractured hips, when you die nothing happens? sorry but let me know when theres a well supported atheistic center that makes an effort to provide food for the homeless, for the people who have nothing, and especially the heartbroken
ok, you tell me when religion stops promoting ignorance, superstition, violence, war, and persecution... and then I'll give a shit about some hospital
No grow up and stop believing in fairytales that make you feel better. Oh! and make you want to shoot people who believe in a god with a smaller dick.
You could tell your grandfather that his memory will live on in those who knew him, including you, and that he's lucky to have lived, given the number of possible people that could have lived, but do not exist. As for atheist and charities, my infidel friends and I voulenteer in our communities. Various secular organizations like doctors without borders provide help to the needy all around the world.
Life is unfair, it's not a perfect paradise maqde by some all knwoing creator. Things that happen in life are totally random. Sometimes truth can be more important that dying peacefully.
Not bad. I like the beat of the music, and the animations pretty cool too. The only criticism I have is that you should have put some more facts in the song, but fuck it. It's good the way it is.
You know something funny about creationists. They claim that the human body is "too complex" that it must have been designed, while they also believe god "created man in his own image". Then who designed god since his "image" is proof of intelligent design.
Eddy, you're so bloody talented as a song writer / singer . why are you not a major artist ??? Have you no desire to become larger than you are at present ? Or consider doing commercial work in NYC.. Dont waste your talents here handsome ....
I would love to, but the music industry just seems too crazy. I would also hate to make something that I love into something I hate in the long run by making it my job.... But, heck, If the money's good, I guess I'd be down. I just am really bad at promoting myself.
What is predictable is the defense of the adult fairytale known as evolutionism consists primarily of idiotic elementary humor such as this video, or "evolution is a fact because, because, well it is, you f-tard". This is why people don't put much credibility in this idiotic crap. We can OBSERVE design in liiving things. We don't see randomness creating anything. We see design. Why some seemingly intelligent people think we all came from a rock is quite curious, to say the least.
It's a testament to your own stupidity that you would pick on a silly sophomoric cartoon video as an example of how people who believe evolution support the theory.
"Why some seemingly intelligent people think we all came from a rock is quite curious, to say the least."
And you finish it up with a strawman. You're not really doing a good job here of making a strong case for whatever it is you may be supporting.
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"Why some seemingly intelligent people think we all came from a rock is quite curious, to say the least."
And you finish it up with a strawman. You're not really doing a good job here of making a strong case for whatever it is you may be supporting."
Saying we came from a rock is not a straw man - some "denominations" of evolutionists, if you will, think that life seemed to have spontaneously generated from "pond scum" over billions and billions of years. Have you guys abandoned this belief?
You evoke common experience of design to explain the complexity around us, but then propose something completely outside of common experience to explain the perceived design. Again, you exhibit a logical disconnect.
Abiogensis presently rises to the level of a working hypothesis. You surely cannot expect anyone to explain the complex chemistry proposed in the hypothesis in 500 words or less. Try Potholer54 or DonExodus2. They have excellent videos explaining abiogensis.
Right you are CsicoWes, design accomplished through descent with modification and natural selection.
You hypothesize an invisible creator being. if everything that looks "designed" had an intelligent creator, then the creator must have had a creator too; and that creator a creator, ad infinitum.
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Things don't design themselves. That's a faith belief. Now if you want to believe that, no problem. Just don't call that science. Secondly, a Creator doesn't have to be Created. Since God has no beginning, or end, therefore wasn't created. Evolutionists have unwittingly created a god out of chance/time/nature/modification, etc... THAT is a created God. God the Creator - who exists out of the bounds of time, did not have a beginning.
You start out by assuming concious design of everything under the presumption that everything is too complex not to have been intelligently designed, then propose that a designer who would by definition be highly complex and state that he was not designed. There seems to be a logical disconnect in your reasoning.
go argue your point somewhere where people are actually discussing it, here we are are mearly mocking your stupid ass beliefs, because seriously, they're hilarious. I doubt you'll ever actually understand how many people can't believe anyone would believe the shit you do, we've just resorted to laughing at you idiots here.
Go have you silly arguments debuked somewhere else
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"go argue your point somewhere where people are actually discussing it, here we are are mearly mocking your stupid ass beliefs"
It's a mockery everywhere. The "evidence" for this adult fairytale, also known as evolutionism is dependent on how many f-bombs someone can use, or how many ad hominem remarks can be piled up, masquerading as "evidence".
This IS the evidence for evolutionism. Smoke and mirrors, straw men, bait & switch.
just because you want to ignore all the evidence for evolution because it does not agree with your beliefs, does not mean the evidence is not there, it merely means u are ignorant
you're an idiot, the evidence is ALL around you, evolution has been recorded and documented by modern scientists, we have all the transitional fossils, we have all the proof, evolution happened, is happening and will continue happening. It's an integral part of life on this planet, a quick search anywhere on the internet and you'll find all this evidence, people, like you who are too fucking reatrded to understand or just choose to ignore all of this need to get the shit ripped out of them =D
"And we have a whole shit load more than jokes and stories to defend evolution; however all you have is stories to defend "Creation". "
It would be nice if someone could just produce one little piece of this vague, inidentified, "shitload" of proof of evolution, also known as mounds of evidence, or piles of evidence, or mountians of evidence, that everybody is always talking about, but never can seem to produce one single "fact" of this evidence.
"It would be nice if someone could just produce one little piece...of evidence"
Wait, are you saying you haven't bothered to research the topic at all but expect a comprehensive explanation of 150 years of accumulated knowledge to be spoon-fed to you in a YouTube video comment section?! What the hell is wrong with you? Get off your ass, read some chemistry, physics and biology, then come back and talk. I suggest the introductory textbook "Evolution," by Barton, et al.
Very cool, eddy. And kudos to EvilZoe. The art really does recall the old Schoolhouse Rock cartoons nicely (it made me remember the 70s, when we knew "Intelligent Design" by its real name: creationism).
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You are going to hell for listening to this garbage. Kent Hovind speaks the truth. And yes, he hates evolution. I would hate a lie taught is schools as well
Science isn't at odds with God. Thru science, we can observe design. Science used to deal with things measured, weighed, or counted. In other words, observable, tangible things. Somewhere down the line though, science has been shipwrecked to now support theories (belief systems) that life somehow spontaneously generates itself "given enough time". That's not science, that's a belief. A belief that has been perpetuated into a religion.
"Somewhere down the line though, science has been shipwrecked to now support theories (belief systems) that life somehow spontaneously generates itself "given enough time"."
OMG! That is SO going up on "Fundies Say The Darnedest Things!
Thanks You! Please stay.. You are absolutely entertaining.
@eddygoombah I take it you are a fundamental evolutionist? Spontaneous generation? I'm glad you find it humorous. Realizing that you truly believe in this nonsense is about as funny as watching an elderly woman fall down a flight of stairs. Strange.
@eddygoombah The 'fundamental evolutionist' would be one that subscribes to the belief of molecules to man evolution. One who believes that all living things are connected and share a common ancestor. The literal bubbling and brewing of pond scum many billions of years ago to form life. That is a 'fundamental evolutionist'. Some evolutionists shelter themselves from origins and instead assume everything just happened along at some time and went from there.
How does the current uncertainty about how life originated support your hypothesis that an intelligent being magically created life? You seem to suggest that it must be so because you assert it to be so.
@clairewaldorf2 Something having a creator is unaffected by my own personal opinion about such. Creation having a Creator is simply following logic. Creation spontaneously generating or slowly coming together over billions of years doesn't follow logic but SWAG science. I'm asserting that life had a Creator but you are under the impression that life just came about over some astronomical time period?
if you wish to dismiss natural processes as the cause for origin of life and biodiversity, how far are you willing to go with the "designer" idea? Do you believe an obsessive-compulsive creator is up in the sky individually crafting each snowflake, or do you believe snowflakes form as part of a natural chemical process?
@clairewaldorf2 In a snowflake, why does the formation observe physical laws and always adhere to complex mathematical patterns? Where did these patterns come from, and where did the physical laws come from? They came about by natural processes?
"science has been shipwrecked to now support theories (belief systems)"
To effectively support your assertion, please list which generally accepted scientific theories are merely "belief systems" and provide corroborating evidence for why the entire world scientific community, millions of man hours of research, and myriad scientific jounal articles are wrong and you are right.
@clairewaldorf2 You are using an ad populum logical fallacy. Just because so many people believe something it must be right. Remember Hitler once was very popular and had a huge following, and many people thought he was right too. The 'belief system' I am talking about is where you depart from science. When you leave observable science and entertain 'just-so' stories like something 'evolved' over billions of years.
@stefansv No, all defects, death, etc... entered the picture at the fall of man. When man turned from God sin entered the world. What God created didn't include cancer. When an automaker creates a car, did they create rust? When a building is built, did the construction workers put termites in it?
So let me get this straight, you say that things look designed there for there is a designer, so the eye looks designed there for there is a god but cancer also looks designed but that was not made by the designer? So where did cancer come from, I mean it so complex, someways it´s more complex then the eye, surley your not say it evolved!
@stefansv I wasn't saying things just looked like they were designed, they actually have design elements. Technically we would have to say cancer cells would be de-evolving. Evolution is supposedly getting better, etc... but defects creeping in to things would signify breaking down, or de-evolving. That's one reason why evolution goes against physical laws because in the entire universe we see things winding down, not getting better.
Do you think evolution is supposedly getting better for only humans? The aids virus evolves and gets immune to the newest drugs, also about 97% of all species have gone extinct, evolution is not a ladder where humans are the goal, sometimes it goes wrong.
@stefansv Have you noticed that the term evolution has become so plastic that it encompasses everything? I've heard that it is easier to nail jello to a tree than to get a consistent definition of what evolution is. I do not believe in your evolution. Aside from the fact it violates nature and physical laws, there isn't any evidence for it. I didn't say your evolution theory dealt only with humans.
evolution: the change of allele frequency over time which results in the change in the inherited traits of a population of organisms through successive generations.
this not only is a fact, but has been observed and has shown to be a tool in predicting certain biological, archeological, pharmaceutical, and sociological trends
@eddygoombah Classic bait and switch. You evolutionists will say 'evolution' is true even though it is a bad term to describe minute changes within a kind but then claim it is a fact that a pineapple and a porcupine share a common ancestor since all ilfe came from a single celled organism. Someone's baloney detector should have went off a long time ago.
@eddygoombah Maybe you don't understand what a bait and switch is. You say one thing and claim one thing but then offer something else. The definition of evolutionism has become so encompassing, so plastic, that it literally means everything. Therefore, nobody can disagree. What happened to good old fashioned baloney detectors that would go off when someone claims that a field mouse is a distant relative of a human.
You asked for the definition of evolution, and I gave it. I have no idea what the hell "evolutionism" is. Maybe that's why you are having so much trouble understanding such a simple subject.
@eddygoombah Since evolution is such a plastic term and it means so many things depending on the conversation, it has become an 'ism'. Evolutionism is a label describing the hokey adult fairytale known as evolution.
@eddygoombah some biology isn't a 'fail' as you say. Biology that is scientifically sound, and doesn't violate scientific principles or physical laws is fine. It's the screwed up illogical brain-dead BS like pineapples and porcupines sharing a common ancestor or field mice and humans being related. Now THAT evolutionism isn't science.
@CiscoWes you do understand that biology without evolution makes no sense...
Over and over again, you keep saying the same things even after people have shown you how you are incorrect. You keep making the same fallacies, the same misnomers, the same scientifically illiterate statements.
you don't care about pithy debate here... all you want is to shout at people.
@eddygoombah That should tell you something, if I have to keep saying the same things over and over. I'm pointing out the same fallacies and the scientifically illiterate statements made by evolutionists. I'm a "Creationist" because I appreciate the evidence found in living things that reflect a Creator, as opposed to the belief you subscribe to that everything just came about, over billions of years of evolutionism.
@CiscoWes the reason you keep saying the same things over and over is because you don't comprehend when someone has debunked your claim. you would rather sit back, eyes closed, fingers in ears and shout out "I'm not listening!"
@CiscoWes anytime you suggest that there are no transitional fossils, or that evolution doesn't create information, or whatever ridiculous laughable claim you keep making
LOL "You know everybody, you wanna be converted." Great and funny.
PumpkinPixie1978 4 months ago
Atheism, woo. No need to waste (thinking that I live to 60-90 years) 356-534 hours of my life to pray one minute per day to my magic ceiling.. ^^
(Do what you want to with your own life, no hate)
Barbaari111 6 months ago
"give it up for baby jesus" lol, catchy song, great job.
gonzolotik 6 months ago
i love the guitar..in fact the song is really good
699backstab 8 months ago
Sorry, but even though I totally believe in evolution, I thought this song was just boring.
Crunchy68 9 months ago
@Crunchy68 rawr... sorry, next time when I have more than a day to write it, and a professional label backing me instead of just my one microphone, then I will make a better song. Next time, just try not to watch it. Also, It will be even LESS boring to not comment on how bored you were.
eddygoombah 9 months ago
@eddygoombah I wasn't trying to be mean. Just pointing out that a person doesn't have to be a YEC to dislike an anti-creationist video.
Adapting a "schoolhouse rock" theme to evolution was a cool idea, and I was looking forward to hearing it. But hearing "intelligent design" just repeated over and over got old. So no, I didn't even bother to finish watching.
And yes, I WOULD look forward to hearing you produce something that you spent more than one day on, with or without a label.
Crunchy68 9 months ago
@Crunchy68 then what are you still doing here wasting even more of your precious time?
Do yourself a favor, leave this video, and make your own opus and post it on YouTube. I am dying to see what a true songwriter could do in 24 hrs. I can't wait!
eddygoombah 9 months ago
@eddygoombah I'm not a songwriter. I can't even make videos. I didn't think I was wasting my time by giving constructive criticism. I'm not trolling you, I'm trying to be helpful. I don't see why you're so confrontational about this. But sure, I'll leave you alone from now on. You obviously don't want any input.
Crunchy68 9 months ago
@Crunchy68 saying something is boring is not constructive criticism. You might as well say a building is ugly. How does this help the architect? It doesn't. It can only make the architect feel bad, or show that you know little about subjective appreciation for structural design.
so, if this was you trying to be helpful, i suggest you stop before you piss someone off. I'm just giving some constructive criticism...
eddygoombah 9 months ago
@eddygoombah Thanks for the feedback.
Crunchy68 9 months ago
@Crunchy68
/facepalm
eddygoombah 9 months ago
173 christians have wached this.
briggles 10 months ago
This has not gotten the views it deserves.
GoblinXXX 11 months ago
The train at 3:55 looks like a German ICE. Why is it in a setting that looks American?
1RadicalOne 1 year ago
ROFL at the giant flying spaghetti monster. Everyone knows that GFSM is the true one and only god.
DuykRuyk 1 year ago
I love this video.
DueCarnage 2 years ago
Great work guys!
kmonster420 2 years ago 2
I always thought the one thing Creationists had over us was a better song...I'm glad to say now I was mistaken, this is much better!
Pyrolonn 2 years ago
What song do they have that you're referring to?
FractalHelix777 2 years ago
the teacher at the desk sounded kind of weak
might just be my speakers, right channel is crappy
odenskrigare 2 years ago
sounds fine to me
eddygoombah 2 years ago
then it's my shit speakers
odenskrigare 2 years ago
That was pretty good.
Sounded and looked quite professional, (much better than I was expecting).
Sort of reminded me of a mix of Sesame Street, and the animation off the Beatles, Magical Mystery tour.
That was nice.
martiangrundy 2 years ago
1:44 what fact... evolution is a theory not fact... ask a scientist. there is some evidence that could go towards evolution... not much but there is some, just as there is some for intelligent design. also 2:55 what are you talking about here? have you ever really read the bible of just taking what other people say about it? and evolution itself goes against the God of the bible?
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
evolution is a fact... in fact there is more evidence to support evolution than gravity or atoms...
and I am talking about what pretty much every young earth creationist says about what they think about the bible.
and evolution itself does nothing against god, in fact, it says nothing regarding god at all.
eddygoombah 2 years ago
you say fact... what facts? how it goes against you asked because God says six literal days, evolution says billions of years.
so then lets start at the age of the earth? how old is it, and what facts do you have?
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
fatcs: endogenous retroviruses, Human chromosome #2, genetic drift, observed speciation events, extensive fossil record, radiometric dating, geological layering...
and where did you get a 6 billion year figure? That's funny, because the earth is only 4.2 Billion years old.
what facts do you have besides a 2000 year old over edited retranslated self fulfilling book that was written by superstitious bronze age desert men? any facts at all?
eddygoombah 2 years ago
i never said 6 billion years i said six literal day as in genesis chapter 1
how about 1.4 million years back in time life would not be able to exist because the moon would be to close to the earth... or did you forget that the moon moves 3.8 cm away from the earth every year.
geological layering are you for real... the same geological layering that has trees and fossils going through multiple layers...
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
you know you actually need to back up your claims... like that the moon has moved away at that distance at a constant rate from the beginning, and anyone claiming that trees growing through layers of strata disproves a 4.2 Billion year old earth doesn't know anything about geology.
you also seemed to ignore genetic drift, observed speciation events, human chromosome #2, radiometric dating, etc... stop watching Kent Hovind seminars and crack open a science book.
eddygoombah 2 years ago
So-called "polystrate" trees are not a problem. They invariably occur in river floodplain or swamp deposits where sediment layers can be accumulated relatively quickly and where anoxic conditions lead to a diminishment of microbial activity (the kinds of microbes that cause the tree trunk and roots to "rot."
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
Young Earth Creationists claim that all sedimentary rocks were formed in the Biblical flood. This ignores the fact that there are erosional planes that occur between any sedimentary layers, and often the underlying layers are tilted by tectonic forces before the later sediments were laid down. It also ignores that there are volcanic ash layers that interrupt the sedimentary layers at many levels.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
In science, "theories" outrank facts because a theory is an explanation of many facts. But you are incorrect; evolution is an established fact, except for rigid, often uneducated, adherents of one ancient superstition or another. The Theory of Evolution concerns how the process of evolution occurs.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
"evolution itself goes against the God of the bible"
So does a belief in the equality of women and a belief that slavery is inherently evil.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
And given certain occurences in Joshua, Deuteronomy, and Judges, one can conclude that the "god" you refer to is rather fond of genocide.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago 2
genocide??? dont forget Genesis, Revelation Judges and what not... I'm not God so I cant fully answer for Him, but I will say that He created it, and if "it" chooses to go against God then why cant He destroy it? The people that He did destroy were evil and did horrible things to people, including men, women and children. so His punishment even through harsh and seems unright, well it is just (not fair) to the creator
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
So, little kids did "horrible" thing to people? How about the livestock? Sometimes he even had them killed too. By the way, what's more "horrible" than wiping out entire cities?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
the reason for total elimination was because God in His all knowingness, knew that the children would be as wicked as their parents...
and about what is more horrible, read a history book, these nations would take over a country, rape the women and children, then for sport skin them alive, then use their skin to cover the walls of their newly conquered land... and half the time these people would rage war against areas just to take them over
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
so I guess god is too good for his own rules...
hypocrite much?
not much of a deity of you ask me
eddygoombah 2 years ago
According to the Bible, Yahweh sometimes "hardened the hearts" of the Hebrews enemies to justify slaughtering them. So couldn't a god conversely been able to soften hearts too? And there are no history books recording the flaying that you describe and much of what you describe as despicable was carried out by the ancient Jews as they committed genocide against the indigenous people of the region.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
the place were God hardened a heart was pharaoh right? well then lets go over it, God gave him multiple time to let His ppl go, and the time he did harden it was to bring forth the passover, which in turn brought forth Christ's coming, i.e. because Christ is the sacrifice lamb of God... the passover lamb, the first born of his family.
look up history of the Babylonians, Assyrians and what not. i never said Israel was a perfect people! next you contradict yourself,
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
Not exactly a Biblical scholar, are you?
Actually, Jesus was an unhinged Jewish apocalypticist who ran afoul of the authorities and got nailed to a tree. Best thing that ever happened to him. Then his followers and their descendants stole some stories from the Cult of Mithras, grafted on such commonplace "god-stuff" like a virgin birth, a bit of symbolic, ritualized cannibilism, and voila: "The Son of God" and the most popular death cult going today.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
wow that sounds almost word for word from that BS movie religulous... wow if you are going to claim something back it up!!
what happen to His body? did 11 scared fishers over power 12+ highly trained, fully armed guards? or did they do it when the guards were asleep, (the guards) knowing fully that sleeping on the "job" is punishable by death? cannibilism? i'm going to guess you mean communion???? i am not catholic, the bread is not His body but a symbol of His... next Cult of Mithras came
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
I presume his followers bribed the guards and then stole it. Speaking of the body, according to the Gospels, how many people went to the grave and found it empty? What did they see when they got there? Compare each of the gospels for what they say about that. The exercise might surprise you.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
"did 11 scared fishers over power 12+ highly trained, fully armed guards?"
yeah, because everybody KNOWS Roman guards were entirely uncorruptable.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
"the bread is not His body but a symbol"
That's why I referred to it as symbolic ritualized cannibilism.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
According to Matthew, Jesus was born during hte reign of Herod the great. Herod died in 4 BCE. According to Luke, Jesus was born when Quirinius was Governor of Syria. Quirinius became Governor of Syria in 6 CE. What's up with that?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
What does Paul say about his actions immediately following his experience on the road to Damascus? What does the Book of Acts say was his first act after his experience on the Road to Damascus?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
Matthew and Luke both give genealogies for Jesus, through Joseph to show he was decended from the line of David. Why are the two genealogies different, and why genealogies through Joseph, who was purportedly not Jesus' father?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
after the birth of Jesus.
if the whole "Jesus story" is made up why has there been no actual evidence found????
and what are you talking about "Jesus was an unhinged Jewish apocalypticist who ran afoul of the authorities"???
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
Try reading a book other than your Big Book of Fables sometime.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
And while we're on the subject, compare the stories of the birth of Jesus and the immediate aftermath in Like and Matthew. According to the two sources, why were Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem? Where was Jesus born? What didd the family do immediately after the birth?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
According to Paul letter to the Galatians (6:12) Paul says Christians shouldn't be circumcised. According to the Book of Acts (16:1-3) he circumcised his follower Timothy. What's up with that?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
and about acts 16:1-3 says why he was cirumcised... because he was a greek, and for the jews in that area... they would not listen to any one who was not circumcised, this is not a salvation issue, but a respect issue.
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
You still here Chucklehead? Buy a clue: no one cares for your backward-assed opinion or your bronze-age superstition or your zombie god.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
YES!!!!!!!! the name calling begins. i really dont mind, so go ahead continue to make yourself look smart. but in fact every insult you give makes my smile :-) <--- like that...
so if you do have any other questions i will be happy to try to explain them.
again claims without evidence are well just that, and when you cant make a real point you go on the offense, but its all gravy, please keep it coming
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
According to the Gospel of Mark (10:17-19), Jesus stated that thou shalt not defraud is one of the commandments. Huh?!
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
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hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
you say there is no history but then say that was the Hebrews?
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
I said there is no historical verification of your claims about Canaanites; and there is evidence for Hebrews independent of the Bible (like the dozens Jews I know.)
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
So tell me, what time of day was Jesus crucified? When was the last supper eaten, before or during Passover? The Gospels seem a bit confused on these points.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
About 3pm, at supper time, can't remember it was a long time ago you know! the Gospels are left to interpretation, that's why we have 33000+Christian sects; all claiming 2 be the real christian way...LOL...Just couldn't help myself...
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
And speaking of Yahweh, if he intended the land of the Caaninites for the Jews, why didn't he just put them there to begin with? You think he changed his mind? Doesn't seem very godlike to me.
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
Are you just recently crazy with this "god" thing or have you always been unhinged?
RHYMEMAIDEN1 2 years ago
i would have to say about 12 years why?
hescmnbq4me 2 years ago
I've said it once, I'll say it again.
You have an outstanding singing voice, Eddy. :)
Surhotchaperchlorome 2 years ago
Actually, creationism is a subset of intelligent design. An intelligent design advocate can believe that evolution occurred as biology shows, but that it was guided or set into motion by an intelligent force.
hugesinker 2 years ago
I love this song! Eddy, you need to release a cd! I would buy it.
RadarKat73080 2 years ago
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haha its fun to bash christianity, and its also especially fun to destroy the beliefs of the people at the hospitals who have nothing and can do nothing but sit in a bed! what am i suppose to tell my grandfather with fractured hips, when you die nothing happens? sorry but let me know when theres a well supported atheistic center that makes an effort to provide food for the homeless, for the people who have nothing, and especially the heartbroken
herolink0 2 years ago
ok, you tell me when religion stops promoting ignorance, superstition, violence, war, and persecution... and then I'll give a shit about some hospital
eddygoombah 2 years ago
You don't have to tell him anything.
He already knows that when he dies he dies.
No grow up and stop believing in fairytales that make you feel better. Oh! and make you want to shoot people who believe in a god with a smaller dick.
pointmanzero 2 years ago
You could tell your grandfather that his memory will live on in those who knew him, including you, and that he's lucky to have lived, given the number of possible people that could have lived, but do not exist. As for atheist and charities, my infidel friends and I voulenteer in our communities. Various secular organizations like doctors without borders provide help to the needy all around the world.
altosax1st 2 years ago 2
actually the 2 largest charity organization is run by an atheist.
hdgasm 2 years ago 4
Bill Gates (Atheist) runs one of the biggest charities in the world, you fucktard.
BananaHurricane 2 years ago 2
@BananaHurricane Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I thought he had more sense than to be an atheist but what is your point?
CiscoWes 1 year ago
Life is unfair, it's not a perfect paradise maqde by some all knwoing creator. Things that happen in life are totally random. Sometimes truth can be more important that dying peacefully.
metalthunder777 2 years ago
Not bad. I like the beat of the music, and the animations pretty cool too. The only criticism I have is that you should have put some more facts in the song, but fuck it. It's good the way it is.
10/10
EndGameOmega 2 years ago
i wrote and recorded it in an hour.
eddygoombah 2 years ago
i like this message alot but this so SUCKSSSSSSSS
Fallinldols 2 years ago
how does this suck? it's a parody off of a school house rock episode...
either you get it or you don't
eddygoombah 2 years ago
i ment to say song but yeah i see you did create it in an hour which is pretty AW3ZOME
Fallinldols 2 years ago
There is another Carl Pagan....
xIsaiah2x 2 years ago
Carl Sagan was a great man.
What have you done with your life?
pointmanzero 2 years ago 3
Aw, man... I wanted a real hit like
lolly, lolly, lolly get your adverbs here...
or
I'm just a bill, yes I am only a bill...
Or even a
Pirates and emperors, they're really the same thing...
Sorry, I was disappointed.
christo930 2 years ago
sorry, this was just a quick song I made in about an hour...
i'll try to do better next time?
eddygoombah 2 years ago
I'm not trying to be a jerk and I would hope you wouldn't want a sycophantic response.
It's got something, but needs more polish and more lyrics.
christo930 2 years ago
i hear you, but really, it was just for fun... so it really doesn't need anything. I appreciate the constructive criticism though
eddygoombah 2 years ago
Maybe if you ever feel like it, you can write a song explaining evolution or something. Anyway, it gets an A for effort. Thanks.
christo930 2 years ago
because this was a video for fun, not for education. I'll leave that up to Andromedaswake and Donexodus2.
The satirical sophomoric catchy ditties?
I'll do that
eddygoombah 2 years ago
great vid and some excellent geetar pickin' there eddy!
axiomiser 2 years ago
Fantastic work guys!!
fotokuts 2 years ago
You are an incredibly talented musician/singer Eddy, a diamond in the rough!
DeusExNihilum 2 years ago 3
ned MP3
bargains002 2 years ago
How can i not favourite this?
Vaenra333 2 years ago
You know something funny about creationists. They claim that the human body is "too complex" that it must have been designed, while they also believe god "created man in his own image". Then who designed god since his "image" is proof of intelligent design.
VforVendetta200 2 years ago
"Give it up for baby Jesus!"
doctaword 2 years ago
Eddy, you're so bloody talented as a song writer / singer . why are you not a major artist ??? Have you no desire to become larger than you are at present ? Or consider doing commercial work in NYC.. Dont waste your talents here handsome ....
MasterMark123 2 years ago
man, I wish...
I would love to, but the music industry just seems too crazy. I would also hate to make something that I love into something I hate in the long run by making it my job.... But, heck, If the money's good, I guess I'd be down. I just am really bad at promoting myself.
eddygoombah 2 years ago
The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time.
- Bertrand Russell
JJR93 2 years ago
Eddy your work is proof that a god is real. His name is Eddygoombah.
pookiehohn 2 years ago
Whats funny is this describes their whole argument too.
creamsykle 2 years ago
What is predictable is the defense of the adult fairytale known as evolutionism consists primarily of idiotic elementary humor such as this video, or "evolution is a fact because, because, well it is, you f-tard". This is why people don't put much credibility in this idiotic crap. We can OBSERVE design in liiving things. We don't see randomness creating anything. We see design. Why some seemingly intelligent people think we all came from a rock is quite curious, to say the least.
CiscoWes 2 years ago
It's a testament to your own stupidity that you would pick on a silly sophomoric cartoon video as an example of how people who believe evolution support the theory.
"Why some seemingly intelligent people think we all came from a rock is quite curious, to say the least."
And you finish it up with a strawman. You're not really doing a good job here of making a strong case for whatever it is you may be supporting.
eddygoombah 2 years ago
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"Why some seemingly intelligent people think we all came from a rock is quite curious, to say the least."
And you finish it up with a strawman. You're not really doing a good job here of making a strong case for whatever it is you may be supporting."
Saying we came from a rock is not a straw man - some "denominations" of evolutionists, if you will, think that life seemed to have spontaneously generated from "pond scum" over billions and billions of years. Have you guys abandoned this belief?
CiscoWes 2 years ago
You evoke common experience of design to explain the complexity around us, but then propose something completely outside of common experience to explain the perceived design. Again, you exhibit a logical disconnect.
Abiogensis presently rises to the level of a working hypothesis. You surely cannot expect anyone to explain the complex chemistry proposed in the hypothesis in 500 words or less. Try Potholer54 or DonExodus2. They have excellent videos explaining abiogensis.
clairewaldorf2 2 years ago 3
"We can OBSERVE design in liiving things"
Right you are CsicoWes, design accomplished through descent with modification and natural selection.
You hypothesize an invisible creator being. if everything that looks "designed" had an intelligent creator, then the creator must have had a creator too; and that creator a creator, ad infinitum.
clairewaldorf2 2 years ago
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Things don't design themselves. That's a faith belief. Now if you want to believe that, no problem. Just don't call that science. Secondly, a Creator doesn't have to be Created. Since God has no beginning, or end, therefore wasn't created. Evolutionists have unwittingly created a god out of chance/time/nature/modification, etc... THAT is a created God. God the Creator - who exists out of the bounds of time, did not have a beginning.
CiscoWes 2 years ago
wait, you accuse someone of using a strawman, and then make a comment like that which is nothing but one gigantic strawman fallacy?
really?
eddygoombah 2 years ago
You start out by assuming concious design of everything under the presumption that everything is too complex not to have been intelligently designed, then propose that a designer who would by definition be highly complex and state that he was not designed. There seems to be a logical disconnect in your reasoning.
clairewaldorf2 2 years ago 4
go argue your point somewhere where people are actually discussing it, here we are are mearly mocking your stupid ass beliefs, because seriously, they're hilarious. I doubt you'll ever actually understand how many people can't believe anyone would believe the shit you do, we've just resorted to laughing at you idiots here.
Go have you silly arguments debuked somewhere else
crazyhairball18 2 years ago
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"go argue your point somewhere where people are actually discussing it, here we are are mearly mocking your stupid ass beliefs"
It's a mockery everywhere. The "evidence" for this adult fairytale, also known as evolutionism is dependent on how many f-bombs someone can use, or how many ad hominem remarks can be piled up, masquerading as "evidence".
This IS the evidence for evolutionism. Smoke and mirrors, straw men, bait & switch.
CiscoWes 2 years ago
u just described evidence for religion perfectly
just because you want to ignore all the evidence for evolution because it does not agree with your beliefs, does not mean the evidence is not there, it merely means u are ignorant
dhcrazy333 2 years ago
you're an idiot, the evidence is ALL around you, evolution has been recorded and documented by modern scientists, we have all the transitional fossils, we have all the proof, evolution happened, is happening and will continue happening. It's an integral part of life on this planet, a quick search anywhere on the internet and you'll find all this evidence, people, like you who are too fucking reatrded to understand or just choose to ignore all of this need to get the shit ripped out of them =D
crazyhairball18 2 years ago 3
---"This IS the evidence for evolutionism. Smoke and mirrors, straw men, bait & switch."---
but fortunately, "Smoke and mirrors, straw men, bait & switch" are not the evidence for evolution.
axiomiser 2 years ago
Dude, I don't know what your smoking...but you need to stop it is really skewing your sense of reality & truth.
Science may not have all the answers but is far more logical than the myths & lies of our fathers.
fotokuts 2 years ago 2
Since this got sent to me in my mail box, i had to come back and respond.
"Evolutionism" this is a made up word lol
And we have a whole shit load more than jokes and stories to defend evolution; however all you have is stories to defend "Creation".
creamsykle 2 years ago
"And we have a whole shit load more than jokes and stories to defend evolution; however all you have is stories to defend "Creation". "
It would be nice if someone could just produce one little piece of this vague, inidentified, "shitload" of proof of evolution, also known as mounds of evidence, or piles of evidence, or mountians of evidence, that everybody is always talking about, but never can seem to produce one single "fact" of this evidence.
CiscoWes 2 years ago
please check out any of the videos made by extantdodo, thunderf00t, potholer54, rabidape, aronra, donexodus, dprjones, cdk007, kabane52...
Maybe pick up a biology book, look at a seminar by Ken Miller,
Just because you don't want to think that there's evidence, doesn't mean that there isn't evidence.
eddygoombah 2 years ago
"It would be nice if someone could just produce one little piece...of evidence"
Wait, are you saying you haven't bothered to research the topic at all but expect a comprehensive explanation of 150 years of accumulated knowledge to be spoon-fed to you in a YouTube video comment section?! What the hell is wrong with you? Get off your ass, read some chemistry, physics and biology, then come back and talk. I suggest the introductory textbook "Evolution," by Barton, et al.
clairewaldorf2 2 years ago 4
They need to show this in school.
SpikeIncorporated 2 years ago
i love 4:25. very monty python. i love the whole thing, acutally.
MeGustanUvas 2 years ago
Yep, that's really all there is to say about the non-theory of "intelligent design'.... just "intelligent design."
Muchodelcrazy 2 years ago
Damn you Eddy, I'm going to be singing this all day.
socer777 2 years ago
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Oh my gosh, I'm so glad this video is here to warn me about the scaaaaaaary eviiiiiiiiil creationists! Hoooooray! Fucktard.
sevenYearOldBoy 2 years ago
your welcome!
eddygoombah 2 years ago
Watch out for EVIL-lution too good sir.
Hunter1990 2 years ago
You've got some serious talent there dude
nylonhead116 2 years ago
Very good. Good singers.
BoyintheMachine 2 years ago
Not only excellent content. It's also a brilliant song.
n0deity 2 years ago
parts of this are hilariously spot on
KeepFreeSpeechFree 2 years ago 2
Very cool, eddy. And kudos to EvilZoe. The art really does recall the old Schoolhouse Rock cartoons nicely (it made me remember the 70s, when we knew "Intelligent Design" by its real name: creationism).
Bfdidc 3 years ago
Greatest song ever
MonkeyOctober 3 years ago
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You are going to hell for listening to this garbage. Kent Hovind speaks the truth. And yes, he hates evolution. I would hate a lie taught is schools as well
jrnh2010 3 years ago
yeah, well you are being an asshole for spamming my vids for no apparent reason than to be an apparent asshole
eddygoombah 3 years ago
Ignore him, this asshole is all over the place 1 star rating videos and spamming. Obvious troll is obvious.
JonathanClement140 3 years ago 3
"I would hate a lie taught is schools"
Then its a good thing they don't do the praying to Jesus thing in public school anymore.
clairewaldorf2 3 years ago 3
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how DARE you call Jesus a lie. You are going to hell. I am sorry. I will pray for you.
jrnh2010 3 years ago
Great. Put in a good word for yourself while you're talking to the ceiling and your invisible, imaginary friend.
clairewaldorf2 3 years ago 3
Oh, hey, if you leave for the rapture, can I have your stuff?
clairewaldorf2 3 years ago 5
jesus may have been a real guy, but probably not a supernatural being. So jesus isn't a lie... those who worship him as a god are...
eddygoombah 3 years ago
jrnh2010 - He is a creationist comedian in my eyes.Not a scientist.
Faith is not a science.
Science is not religion.
MonkeyOctober 2 years ago
Science isn't at odds with God. Thru science, we can observe design. Science used to deal with things measured, weighed, or counted. In other words, observable, tangible things. Somewhere down the line though, science has been shipwrecked to now support theories (belief systems) that life somehow spontaneously generates itself "given enough time". That's not science, that's a belief. A belief that has been perpetuated into a religion.
CiscoWes 2 years ago
"Somewhere down the line though, science has been shipwrecked to now support theories (belief systems) that life somehow spontaneously generates itself "given enough time"."
OMG! That is SO going up on "Fundies Say The Darnedest Things!
Thanks You! Please stay.. You are absolutely entertaining.
eddygoombah 2 years ago
@eddygoombah I take it you are a fundamental evolutionist? Spontaneous generation? I'm glad you find it humorous. Realizing that you truly believe in this nonsense is about as funny as watching an elderly woman fall down a flight of stairs. Strange.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes what the heck is a "fundamental evolutionist"?
If you mean someone who basically paid attention is school and actually did his homework, then I think your definitions are a bit screwed up...
oh, but you're a creationist... everything you believe in is screwed up... sorry
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah The 'fundamental evolutionist' would be one that subscribes to the belief of molecules to man evolution. One who believes that all living things are connected and share a common ancestor. The literal bubbling and brewing of pond scum many billions of years ago to form life. That is a 'fundamental evolutionist'. Some evolutionists shelter themselves from origins and instead assume everything just happened along at some time and went from there.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes so basically, "biologists"
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah No, not all biologists subscribe to the belief of evolutionism.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes you're right, only 99.99% of them
eddygoombah 1 year ago
How does the current uncertainty about how life originated support your hypothesis that an intelligent being magically created life? You seem to suggest that it must be so because you assert it to be so.
clairewaldorf2 2 years ago
@clairewaldorf2 Something having a creator is unaffected by my own personal opinion about such. Creation having a Creator is simply following logic. Creation spontaneously generating or slowly coming together over billions of years doesn't follow logic but SWAG science. I'm asserting that life had a Creator but you are under the impression that life just came about over some astronomical time period?
CiscoWes 1 year ago
if you wish to dismiss natural processes as the cause for origin of life and biodiversity, how far are you willing to go with the "designer" idea? Do you believe an obsessive-compulsive creator is up in the sky individually crafting each snowflake, or do you believe snowflakes form as part of a natural chemical process?
clairewaldorf2 2 years ago
@clairewaldorf2 In a snowflake, why does the formation observe physical laws and always adhere to complex mathematical patterns? Where did these patterns come from, and where did the physical laws come from? They came about by natural processes?
CiscoWes 1 year ago
"science has been shipwrecked to now support theories (belief systems)"
To effectively support your assertion, please list which generally accepted scientific theories are merely "belief systems" and provide corroborating evidence for why the entire world scientific community, millions of man hours of research, and myriad scientific jounal articles are wrong and you are right.
clairewaldorf2 2 years ago
@clairewaldorf2 You are using an ad populum logical fallacy. Just because so many people believe something it must be right. Remember Hitler once was very popular and had a huge following, and many people thought he was right too. The 'belief system' I am talking about is where you depart from science. When you leave observable science and entertain 'just-so' stories like something 'evolved' over billions of years.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes
@CiscoWes
So are you saying that this "designer" designed cancer?
stefansv 1 year ago
@stefansv No, all defects, death, etc... entered the picture at the fall of man. When man turned from God sin entered the world. What God created didn't include cancer. When an automaker creates a car, did they create rust? When a building is built, did the construction workers put termites in it?
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes
So let me get this straight, you say that things look designed there for there is a designer, so the eye looks designed there for there is a god but cancer also looks designed but that was not made by the designer? So where did cancer come from, I mean it so complex, someways it´s more complex then the eye, surley your not say it evolved!
stefansv 1 year ago
@stefansv I wasn't saying things just looked like they were designed, they actually have design elements. Technically we would have to say cancer cells would be de-evolving. Evolution is supposedly getting better, etc... but defects creeping in to things would signify breaking down, or de-evolving. That's one reason why evolution goes against physical laws because in the entire universe we see things winding down, not getting better.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes
Do you think evolution is supposedly getting better for only humans? The aids virus evolves and gets immune to the newest drugs, also about 97% of all species have gone extinct, evolution is not a ladder where humans are the goal, sometimes it goes wrong.
stefansv 1 year ago
@stefansv Have you noticed that the term evolution has become so plastic that it encompasses everything? I've heard that it is easier to nail jello to a tree than to get a consistent definition of what evolution is. I do not believe in your evolution. Aside from the fact it violates nature and physical laws, there isn't any evidence for it. I didn't say your evolution theory dealt only with humans.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes
evolution: the change of allele frequency over time which results in the change in the inherited traits of a population of organisms through successive generations.
this not only is a fact, but has been observed and has shown to be a tool in predicting certain biological, archeological, pharmaceutical, and sociological trends
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah Classic bait and switch. You evolutionists will say 'evolution' is true even though it is a bad term to describe minute changes within a kind but then claim it is a fact that a pineapple and a porcupine share a common ancestor since all ilfe came from a single celled organism. Someone's baloney detector should have went off a long time ago.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes
you claim that evolution has no real set definition... Then I give you the actual definition. and then you claim "bait and switch"
are you like typing with your eyes open, or are you like trying to use the force?
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah Maybe you don't understand what a bait and switch is. You say one thing and claim one thing but then offer something else. The definition of evolutionism has become so encompassing, so plastic, that it literally means everything. Therefore, nobody can disagree. What happened to good old fashioned baloney detectors that would go off when someone claims that a field mouse is a distant relative of a human.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes
You asked for the definition of evolution, and I gave it. I have no idea what the hell "evolutionism" is. Maybe that's why you are having so much trouble understanding such a simple subject.
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah Since evolution is such a plastic term and it means so many things depending on the conversation, it has become an 'ism'. Evolutionism is a label describing the hokey adult fairytale known as evolution.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes
it's a plastic term only in your solipsistic mind... According to you, all of modern biology is an "ism"....
fail
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah some biology isn't a 'fail' as you say. Biology that is scientifically sound, and doesn't violate scientific principles or physical laws is fine. It's the screwed up illogical brain-dead BS like pineapples and porcupines sharing a common ancestor or field mice and humans being related. Now THAT evolutionism isn't science.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes you do understand that biology without evolution makes no sense...
Over and over again, you keep saying the same things even after people have shown you how you are incorrect. You keep making the same fallacies, the same misnomers, the same scientifically illiterate statements.
you don't care about pithy debate here... all you want is to shout at people.
no wonder you are a creationist.
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah That should tell you something, if I have to keep saying the same things over and over. I'm pointing out the same fallacies and the scientifically illiterate statements made by evolutionists. I'm a "Creationist" because I appreciate the evidence found in living things that reflect a Creator, as opposed to the belief you subscribe to that everything just came about, over billions of years of evolutionism.
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes the reason you keep saying the same things over and over is because you don't comprehend when someone has debunked your claim. you would rather sit back, eyes closed, fingers in ears and shout out "I'm not listening!"
you are the epitome of scientific illiteracy.
eddygoombah 1 year ago
@eddygoombah What claim was debunked?
CiscoWes 1 year ago
@CiscoWes anytime you suggest that there are no transitional fossils, or that evolution doesn't create information, or whatever ridiculous laughable claim you keep making
eddygoombah 1 year ago