April fool's joke I hope the GOP plan is because they raise the tax on the poor and lower the tax on the rich somehow gonna get some applause over that 10 years only half a budget deficit with a freeze on spending damn these guys are idiots!
I am a Repulican, and I have to say, I am mad by what the GOP has come up with. We have no ideas, and we are just out of touch. I mean, I saw the numbers of our budget, and it was a freakin joke. It gave the rich a $100,000 tax break, and RAISING taxes on the POOR! Not to mention, put us in a 1.7 Trillion in the hole. WTF! It's the same policies from 8 years ago. I may not agree with Obama's policies, but at least he has better ideas than what my party has to offer. Our leaders are retards!
If the buck stops with Obama (the spend thrift man) does this mean he will PERSONALLY pay back the deficit - out of his own personal retirement savings - when his change does not work ?
I'm listening to C-span - sounds like other countries leaders, like China etc are all concerned with Obama's spending. Then, I heard the tax cuts for middle America is NOT going to get approved.
Seems odd, all Obama's spending is going through with all his other wishes. However, not the tax cuts he promised American's. He spent all this money on a promise we would also get tax cuts. Here - CA taxes are being raised on 4/1/09 really high.
Republicans created the recession through laying ground work for bank dergulation,
next, was staging 9-11.
after that they used the war, and paved the way to cover up slush funding selling out and farming out america to the highest bidder kickback donaters, china etc;
then they created laws to prevent anyone to not prevent their agenda from happening or to be timely protested to stop it .
then they used the war to keep the media out, and rip off other funds as emergency.
Extended war in Iraq - Doubeling of troops in Afganastan - Reports out of Gitmo say current treatment of prisoners FAR worse, out of control spending - This is freaking Bush 2!
So no roads, schools, or police? Fuck yea! Not only that, the USA can finally stop wasting money on stupid insitutions like FEMA, the US Army, and FBI!
So what? Most people owe more than they saved as a result if the banks collapse they won't have to pay it back. Not such a bad thing. Certainly better than paying them back TWICE!
No, the sky isn't falling. Economies collapse, sometimes very hard. Not such a bad thing? Easy to say when you can still get money out of the bank and food at the grocery store.
LMAO! Oh so the oldest profesion in the world besides prostitiution is suddenly going to cease to exist because we don't bail out Obama's doners. Yea right. Hey I got a bridge to sell you.
The vast majority of debt owed by the USofA and its people belongs to other nations.
if our economy collapses it wont stop THEM from wanting their money back...wowzers. Let me guess, you support Ron Paul right? You sure sound ignorant enough to be one...
Typical Lib. nothing of substance to say just attack the messenger and not the message. I got news for you - I don't owe anything to anybody. My bet is you need Obama to pay for that big house and/or that fancy school you got. Sad you can't make it on your own. Not your fault I guess. Raised on the mass media nipple is my bet.
First refute what I said, then I refute you. Its called a conversation...learn how to have one. Until then everyone can plainly see how you cant back up your own claims so you have to dodge with a non-issue.
Unless...you are so stupid that you think only 3 people ran for President?!?
OMG...naw, you cant be THAT stupid...or can you? Well, you are a conservative afterall!
You should also mention the Fannie Mae and Feddie Mac efforts by B Frank and C Dodd. these were the real culprits that precipitated this debacle. The fact that you seem so knowledgeable about these matters but failed to mention the sub prime lending motivators is very telling.
You said: "You should also mention the Fannie Mae and Feddie Mac efforts by B Frank and C Dodd."
If Glass Steagal Act which prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services hasn't been repealed then the "sub prime bust" might not be as damaging IMO.
Hence why Paul Krugman called Gramm "the father of the financial crisis" in his Op Ed.
BTW if you can call Clinton "sociopath" then what credibility do you have asking: "Why are you still bashing Bush"?
Yes. That is the other half of the equation. Given a bunch of toxic assets, mandated by Frank and Dodd and others during the Clinton administration, the banks started playing "hot potato" and passing these bundled up "assets" on. They weren't going to get stung by them, so they shared the good fortune with much of the rest of the world. You can blame who you want. And I will blame who I want.
Fact is, it is liberal policies that have led to this crisis. Both moves were liberal.
You said: "Fact is, it is liberal policies that have led to this crisis. Both moves were liberal."
Are you familiar with the "No True Scotsman" fallacy?
You may console yourself by thinking "no true conservative would do that because it was a liberal move" but even though Gramm used to be a democrat he passed the bill which is a part of the cause of the crisis as a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.
Ha. There is our problem. You probably think George Bush was a conservative republican at the end of his tenure too.
Your comments are factually incorrect. The community reinvestment act forced banks to give loans to people who would not normally qualify. Once the banks felt they had the backing of government through F and F greed did kick in as it does in a capitalist society which is the other half of the equation.
You said: "You probably think George Bush was a conservative republican at the end of his tenure too."
Whether he was a true conservative or not is irrelevant because as president from republican party he is the figurehead of "compassionate conservatism" so to speak.
Oh well at least you're smart enough to see that republican party isn't really conservative.
Nothing, aside from the joke his point is right on.
"And you are defending Clinton?"
Clinton may not be a great person morally but as far as leadership goes he's a much better person than Bush.
BTW the "sub prime bust" is precipitated by Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act that prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services.
Why are you still bashing Bush. I am not here to defend Bush. He caved in to liberal ideologies a few years ago and is responsible in part for the economic dilemma we find ourselves in today. the prescription drug benefit for one added greatly to our deficit spending.
Republicans created the recession through laying ground work for bank dergulation,
next, was staging 9-11.
after that they used the war, and paved the way to cover up slush funding selling out and farming out america to the highest bidder kickback donaters, china etc;
then they created laws to prevent anyone to not prevent their agenda from happening or to be timely protested to stop it .
then they used the war to keep the media out, and rip off other funds as emergency.
Republicans created the recession through laying ground work for bank dergulation,
next, was staging 9-11.
after that they used the war, and paved the way to cover up slush funding selling out and farming out america to the highest bidder kickback donaters, china etc;
then they created laws to prevent anyone to not prevent their agenda from happening or to be timely protested to stop it .
then they used the war to keep the media out, and rip off other funds as emergency.
Typical drunken ass liberal. Blame game from lack of the facts. Accept the responsibility that congress makes policy, not the admin. So since 2006, you ass holes fucked up all this crap we are facing now.
You said: "Accept the responsibility that congress makes policy, not the admin."
Well then you should blame 1999 REPUBLICAN CONGRESS because they passed Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act that prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services which precipitated the mortgage crisis which "fucked up all this crap we are facing now."
FYI Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman called Gramm "the father of the financial crisis."
The republican party is dead. It is the conservative folks that you need to watch from here on out. The people that used to be called the great silent majority. You will get a glimpse of them at some of these Tax Revolt marches around the country on April 15th. These are people who have never taken to the streets before. They are new at it. They will find it awkward at first, but they are angry now and will dedicate themselves to the proposition that America is great WITHOUT SOCIALISM.
I hope the Wall Street bankers would join the "Tax Revolt" with you guys since they too will suffer from the Obama's Tax hike on top 5% of income level.
young liberal fools are going learn the hard way with obama !!!! i did with NO GAS NO JOB NO GUTS CARTER the worst pres ever.. i made more money with bush than any other time in my life...by the way the dems have been in control of congress the last TWO YEARS...
The Clinton administration laid the groundwork for what we are going through right now. It ended with a .dom bust and profected out into the future what we now know as the sub prime bust.
Clinton sold out to the Chinese. Clinton is sociopath. And you are defending Clinton?
i would rather have a Trillion dollar stim bill with 1100 pages that needs voted on now.. right now. dont read it .just vote its a crississ. a real bad one. so hurry vote. even if you did read it you wouldent understand the way all the crap is worded... o yea.. the pres will sign it in a few days .but still hurry and vote its a CRISIS....
Look up the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Commodity Futures Market Act - those are the Acts that allowed regular banks to mix with financial institutions that played risky games and made them "too big to fail", as well as allowing them to give out credit default swaps like candy. THOSE are the reasons we are in the mess we are in right now, not the Community Reinvestment Act.
And guess who was in control of Congress at the time? Heck, guess you wrote/authored the bill? Republicans, including Phil "Nation of whiners" Gramm. Oh, and by the way, the Republicans were in such control during that era that they threatened to shut down Congress and the government - remember that?
I think Gibbs would have said something else about this if he had realized that Obama's entire advertising campaign was mostly comprised of pictures of windmills as well. With little more then the words Hope and Change in them as far as text went. Obama told us to wait till (his team) finished up there policy and plans on energy. It seems only fair to give the Republicans the same opportunity.
really? You're going to compare a budget bill to overall campaigning? Seriously? You think having complicated charts and intricate uses of numbers would attract casual voters? Did McCain do that?
OMG-the GOP plan is once again to help the top 5% by making everything over $100,000 have an inc tax of 25%.
The Public needs to wake up & see what's happening.
The inc tax is about the only tax left that's progressive now - all other taxes are regressive - which means they hurt the lower & middle classes more than the upper class.
1 of the most regressive is the Soc Sec Tax. I'm self-employed so I must pay about 15% in SS tax - while Dick Cheney & his buddies pay around 1% SS tax,
why are you talking about just the SS tax, when overall the anyone in the top 5% bracket accounts for over 40% of the federal tax income
ps for a side note, why should a person care about SS cause they are smart and should have their own retirement setup that totally ignores SS. SS is only a SUPPLEMENT to any individuals own retirement. Once again SS is another system which is outdated and should of been disbanded, however once the government receives power, they never give it back.
If the buck stops with Obama (the spend thrift man) does this mean he will personally pay back the deficit out of his own personal retirement savings, when his change does not work ?
Just like a true conservative GOP wackjob. A moron that doesn't know he is a moron. Gibbs is trying his best to not bust out laughing and the incredibly incompetent and comical actions of the GOP with a budget that has NO FUCKING NUMBERS. Zile, are you serious? He did a great job.
Joe402-- The Obama budget increases federal spending by a fiscally insane 34% over the Bush's budget for last year, with a total of $4 Trillion in federal spending, the highest ever! That equals 28.5% of GDP, an increase in the size of government for Obamas first year of 42%!!!!
The deficit will be $1.845 Trillion this year, according to the CBO — the highest ever since World War II. More than 4x Reagans largest deficit, which caused so much howling among liberals and Democrats, stupid fools!
you do know that he is including the cost of the "war on terror" in the new budget, something that bush did not. the republicans want a 25% flat tax on incomes over $100,000 as well , which would cost just as much money and do nothing to help us. and since when do republicans care about the deficit? 8P
Did you watch the video? The republicans have only one idea, Tax breaks for rich people, Nothing else. Obama has problems? Your party is riding itself over a cliff. Be actual fiscal conservatives and propose some fiscal responsibility instead of just wasting time on more tax cuts that don't seem to have fixed the problems in the past.
snark, you've fallen for the liberal lies of class warfare. Dems want you to be poor and hate the rich so that it keeps YOU in your place, always whining about the rich folks when it is the dems who are actually the rich folks. Don't you know that in pollitricks, it's always the opposite? Well you do now!
Oh yes, those "evil" Dems - they only want to give tax cuts to 95% of the people instead of the top 5%, they only want to have EVERYONE be healthy instead of the top 1% who are the only ones who can afford healthcare, they only want to make sure people have a WORKING WAGE - yes, they sure want to KEEP you poor - *rme* Go read the book What's The Matter With Kansas.
and your boss is going to hire more people and pay more taxes????? or maybe he will get rid of some people to pay his taxes??? witch makes more sence????
President Obama has enough sense to know if he wants to get Health Care reform passed addressing the decriminalization of marijuana in anyway would be suicidal. States can and will decriminalize pot on their own and if you pay attention you will see that AG Holder is already making that task easier with the recent change in medical marijuana policy. Have a little patience.
I really don't care I can smoke when ever I want now I just gotta do it on the down low =P Obama is just feeding the criminals. i would buy some land just to grow on if it was legal here in the USA so people wouldn't have to pay gangsters in Mexico that put harmful shit in their pot I"ve seen it all from metal shavings to encasing bricks in laundry detergent and our kids smoke that horrible weed they even had pot laced with mercury are kids are the ones suffering from this war on drugs the most
Did you notice that after President Obama took the question people actually started talking about legalization without blowing a gasket, it will happen but it will take time.
If anything, Gibbs doesn't seem to fully grasp the spirit of reaching out and working with the other side of the aisle, considering all his sneering remarks towards republicans.
That said, i haven't heard a single idea come from the republicans other than 'NO', so perhaps its hard to blame him.
Obama tried that and they spit in his face. I would consider Obama foolish if he continues to waste his time working with reThuglicans. Foolishness is not doing foolish things, It is doing the same thing a second time and expecting a different result.
BTW: I would like the voice of some fiscal conservatives in this fight but the GOP has turned into the party of tax breaks for rich people.
Ehh I like him, I think hes far more realistic than anyone I've seen take that job before. He doesn't know everything, true but he has a personal opinion. I think that counts as far as relaying whats up. If he doesn't know he try's to relay what he does about any given situation.
Well in the "here and now" the GOP "road to recovery" plan is so ridiculous even they said so.
Politico Mar 26, 2009:
"In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan," said a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy."
I am against the repubs.. I do not like Gibbs. Why cant a person not like someone for the hell of it? The guy is a stumbling fool. Its him. No one else..
Being a free thinker I say that he is sending the wrong message. He fudges on his answers. I am against anyone who cannot give clear and decisive answers to a problem.
You mean the plan to triple the deficit in ten years, double it by 2012? The plan to pass his radical agenda and inslave children to debt that will cost more then their education? The market is erratic and will stay that way until hyperinflation sets in and chokes out all but the most sound businesses? Right on schedule!!
Like Sen. Gregg (R): " We dont have an alternative plan because we are only 40 people". Yeah, I didn't know you needed 100 people to have a working brain.
I love how the repukes say obamas gonna destroy ur country and take our babaies to fema camps.
But the pres is the only politian to work for poor people and the middle class in over 30 years and 90% of repukes are poor or lower middle class white people.
The "social conservatives" are, yes. They've provided the energy (usually anger and resentment) and foot soldiers for the Republican campaigns for the last 30 years. But the operation itself has been funded by the top 1%-ers. It's a pretty scary combination. 30 million superstitious jihadists being bank-rolled by 50 thousand millionaires. Isn't that the al Qaeda system, too?
I think it should be obvious by now: Republicans didnt lose the elections - they resigned, left power to the democrats to fix the incredible pile of sh.. they created and prefer to sit on the sideline now, make a few ridiculous comments here and there, draw pictures of windmills and collect their paychecks while waiting for 2012. They seem to hope no one realizes.
Why is anyone listening to the minority party? Have they given us (the middle class) anything? A budget with tax cuts for the rich-they all need to go see the wizard and get some brains.
If people here actually read the republican plan, you would notice this graph in the middle of it. Which was four captioned shapes (Three of which are circled) and they are all connected one after another. In said shapes you find this (In order):
1) Reforms Medicare & Medicaid
2) Universal Access to Affordable Coverage
3) [REPUBLICAN ROAD TO RECOVERY]
4) Limits Federal Spending
No joke, that's actually in the figure less budget (There is no budget there).
Do you even know what part of the Constitution deals with the Federal Budget? If so, what is or is not being done in regard to your interpretation? Can you point to anyone who is actually challenging the Recovery Plan along Constitutional lines? Again, if so, under what statutes?
I'll tell you the truth, I am part of the NWO, we meet on Sundays and we are taking over the world, and when we take away your liberties we will lock you up in the FEMA camps and make you work and then tax you at 90%. That's our plan.
Strange, none of the Republicans were whining about liberty and freedom when Bush was in office.
When he did something egregiously un-Constitutional or otherwise affronting to civil liberties, we were told to "deal with it," and to respect the office and support the President's decisions regardless of whether we agreed with them or not.
No Mr McGee, we liberals are going to do it, this summer. I liked the bat-dog, you seem like a cool guy, because of that I will give you 1 month to save money and move to New Zeland. That is the only country where we will allow conservatives to be in a "free" but controlled environment. Just the few that we decide are somewhat cool will be allowed in NZ, the rest will be locked up in the FEMA camps.
April fool's joke I hope the GOP plan is because they raise the tax on the poor and lower the tax on the rich somehow gonna get some applause over that 10 years only half a budget deficit with a freeze on spending damn these guys are idiots!
jay733 2 years ago
I am a Repulican, and I have to say, I am mad by what the GOP has come up with. We have no ideas, and we are just out of touch. I mean, I saw the numbers of our budget, and it was a freakin joke. It gave the rich a $100,000 tax break, and RAISING taxes on the POOR! Not to mention, put us in a 1.7 Trillion in the hole. WTF! It's the same policies from 8 years ago. I may not agree with Obama's policies, but at least he has better ideas than what my party has to offer. Our leaders are retards!
donscrizz 2 years ago
If the buck stops with Obama (the spend thrift man) does this mean he will PERSONALLY pay back the deficit - out of his own personal retirement savings - when his change does not work ?
DONEwCA 2 years ago
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I'm listening to C-span - sounds like other countries leaders, like China etc are all concerned with Obama's spending. Then, I heard the tax cuts for middle America is NOT going to get approved.
Seems odd, all Obama's spending is going through with all his other wishes. However, not the tax cuts he promised American's. He spent all this money on a promise we would also get tax cuts. Here - CA taxes are being raised on 4/1/09 really high.
DONEwCA 2 years ago
The repugnicans are really scraping the bottom of the barrell, aren't they?
Hereticbooks 2 years ago
Republicans created the recession through laying ground work for bank dergulation,
next, was staging 9-11.
after that they used the war, and paved the way to cover up slush funding selling out and farming out america to the highest bidder kickback donaters, china etc;
then they created laws to prevent anyone to not prevent their agenda from happening or to be timely protested to stop it .
then they used the war to keep the media out, and rip off other funds as emergency.
abuse of power.
hvacrdude1 2 years ago
Czar Gibbs, minister of obfuscation and deception...and pasty complexions.
Meatpieandtatters 2 years ago
Republi-con's offering their ideas to fix the economy is like the big bad wolf helping the 3 little pigs rebuild their houses! What a freakin JOKE!
renijohn012270 2 years ago 4
haha that's beyond awesome "it took me several minutes to read it" lol
anniebee1 2 years ago 4
Lol! Republicans are become stupider by the minute.
"We want Obama fail"?
dodgerfreak0834 2 years ago 3
Yea ok man keep telling yourself that buddy.
fghnpoma 2 years ago
Extended war in Iraq - Doubeling of troops in Afganastan - Reports out of Gitmo say current treatment of prisoners FAR worse, out of control spending - This is freaking Bush 2!
Obama the ultimate wolf in sheep's clothing!
RonFella 2 years ago
laughing out loud
what was that all about?
tra12345iscool 2 years ago
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$0.00 vs $9,000,000,000,000.00?
I'll take $0.00 any day. That means no taxes!
RonFella 2 years ago
So no roads, schools, or police? Fuck yea! Not only that, the USA can finally stop wasting money on stupid insitutions like FEMA, the US Army, and FBI!
3ssay 2 years ago 2
RonFella - It also means the U.S. financial system completely collapses.
mkabbz 2 years ago
The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
So what? Most people owe more than they saved as a result if the banks collapse they won't have to pay it back. Not such a bad thing. Certainly better than paying them back TWICE!
RonFella 2 years ago
No, the sky isn't falling. Economies collapse, sometimes very hard. Not such a bad thing? Easy to say when you can still get money out of the bank and food at the grocery store.
mkabbz 2 years ago
LMAO! Oh so the oldest profesion in the world besides prostitiution is suddenly going to cease to exist because we don't bail out Obama's doners. Yea right. Hey I got a bridge to sell you.
RonFella 2 years ago
Holy shit are you fucking stupid.
The vast majority of debt owed by the USofA and its people belongs to other nations.
if our economy collapses it wont stop THEM from wanting their money back...wowzers. Let me guess, you support Ron Paul right? You sure sound ignorant enough to be one...
rdrakken 2 years ago
Typical Lib. nothing of substance to say just attack the messenger and not the message. I got news for you - I don't owe anything to anybody. My bet is you need Obama to pay for that big house and/or that fancy school you got. Sad you can't make it on your own. Not your fault I guess. Raised on the mass media nipple is my bet.
RonFella 2 years ago
Right, an outright rebuttle with "facts" is nothing of substance so what do you do to defend your previous points?
Talk about the other person posting nothing with substance.
Congrats, you have no ground to stand on.
BTW, I did not vote for Obama nor do I watch crap American news channels. All of them are biased.
rdrakken 2 years ago
LMAO! My guess you didn't vote at all huh? What are you too young? Grow up sonny then make a comment. Now go outside and play.
RonFella 2 years ago
wow another great rebuttle.
Its safe to say that you know what you are talking about...perhaps you have to wait for your political hacks to give you another talking point.
Hope you are watching fox so you can continue the conversation again at some point in the future
rdrakken 2 years ago
So you didn't vote for Obama, nor McCain nor Ron Paul yet you still voted... What for the NAtional communist party? Grow up and go away little man.
RonFella 2 years ago
Hey you are on a roll now I couldnt possible think of a way to refute that last statement backing up your stance!
Typical Conservative. When faced with an issue, provide a picture of a windmill instead of something with substance.
Republicans, the party of no ideas
rdrakken 2 years ago
LMOA! Your fear of the question is almost palatable. Who did you vote for or are you a puppy?
RonFella 2 years ago
Sniff Sniff
I smell a Conservative, all bark and no bite.
First refute what I said, then I refute you. Its called a conversation...learn how to have one. Until then everyone can plainly see how you cant back up your own claims so you have to dodge with a non-issue.
Unless...you are so stupid that you think only 3 people ran for President?!?
OMG...naw, you cant be THAT stupid...or can you? Well, you are a conservative afterall!
rdrakken 2 years ago
12 huh?
RonFella 2 years ago
i hope you all know what you are doing.
bossudude420 2 years ago
lets see republicans, created bank deregulation, through the [gram leach bliley act] of 1999.
then there is the [mc cain, keating 5-7 ordeal
then the slush funds , hedgefunds were created and made availble for the takings all through and by republican regime monarchy corruption bills...
look em up they are all on you tube...
dont forget to look up enron,
LOL
hvacrdude1 2 years ago 2
You should also mention the Fannie Mae and Feddie Mac efforts by B Frank and C Dodd. these were the real culprits that precipitated this debacle. The fact that you seem so knowledgeable about these matters but failed to mention the sub prime lending motivators is very telling.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
You said: "You should also mention the Fannie Mae and Feddie Mac efforts by B Frank and C Dodd."
If Glass Steagal Act which prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services hasn't been repealed then the "sub prime bust" might not be as damaging IMO.
Hence why Paul Krugman called Gramm "the father of the financial crisis" in his Op Ed.
BTW if you can call Clinton "sociopath" then what credibility do you have asking: "Why are you still bashing Bush"?
laleeloolelo 2 years ago 2
Yes. That is the other half of the equation. Given a bunch of toxic assets, mandated by Frank and Dodd and others during the Clinton administration, the banks started playing "hot potato" and passing these bundled up "assets" on. They weren't going to get stung by them, so they shared the good fortune with much of the rest of the world. You can blame who you want. And I will blame who I want.
Fact is, it is liberal policies that have led to this crisis. Both moves were liberal.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
You said: "Fact is, it is liberal policies that have led to this crisis. Both moves were liberal."
Are you familiar with the "No True Scotsman" fallacy?
You may console yourself by thinking "no true conservative would do that because it was a liberal move" but even though Gramm used to be a democrat he passed the bill which is a part of the cause of the crisis as a CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN.
laleeloolelo 2 years ago
Ha. There is our problem. You probably think George Bush was a conservative republican at the end of his tenure too.
Your comments are factually incorrect. The community reinvestment act forced banks to give loans to people who would not normally qualify. Once the banks felt they had the backing of government through F and F greed did kick in as it does in a capitalist society which is the other half of the equation.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
You said: "You probably think George Bush was a conservative republican at the end of his tenure too."
Whether he was a true conservative or not is irrelevant because as president from republican party he is the figurehead of "compassionate conservatism" so to speak.
Oh well at least you're smart enough to see that republican party isn't really conservative.
laleeloolelo 2 years ago
I am familiar with Loki's Wager
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
What is wrong with this Gibbs guy? Is he retarded?
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
You said: "What is wrong with this Gibbs guy?"
Nothing, aside from the joke his point is right on.
"And you are defending Clinton?"
Clinton may not be a great person morally but as far as leadership goes he's a much better person than Bush.
BTW the "sub prime bust" is precipitated by Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act that prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services.
laleeloolelo 2 years ago
Why are you still bashing Bush. I am not here to defend Bush. He caved in to liberal ideologies a few years ago and is responsible in part for the economic dilemma we find ourselves in today. the prescription drug benefit for one added greatly to our deficit spending.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
What a fuckin' moron .... you'd defend a pit bull while he was chompin' your nuts satan...just because your daddy likes pit bulls
nonoproblemo 2 years ago
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Republicans created the recession through laying ground work for bank dergulation,
next, was staging 9-11.
after that they used the war, and paved the way to cover up slush funding selling out and farming out america to the highest bidder kickback donaters, china etc;
then they created laws to prevent anyone to not prevent their agenda from happening or to be timely protested to stop it .
then they used the war to keep the media out, and rip off other funds as emergency.
abuse of power.
hvacrdude1 2 years ago
The GOP budget looks like a bad marketing report.
Joe402 2 years ago 2
Republicans created the recession through laying ground work for bank dergulation,
next, was staging 9-11.
after that they used the war, and paved the way to cover up slush funding selling out and farming out america to the highest bidder kickback donaters, china etc;
then they created laws to prevent anyone to not prevent their agenda from happening or to be timely protested to stop it .
then they used the war to keep the media out, and rip off other funds as emergency.
abuse of power.
hvacrdude1 2 years ago
hvacrdude
You forgot about the fluoride in the water and the barium in the contrails. Obviously you live in a place that gets an overabundance of both.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
Typical drunken ass liberal. Blame game from lack of the facts. Accept the responsibility that congress makes policy, not the admin. So since 2006, you ass holes fucked up all this crap we are facing now.
JunkMan16 2 years ago
You said: "Accept the responsibility that congress makes policy, not the admin."
Well then you should blame 1999 REPUBLICAN CONGRESS because they passed Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which repealed part of the Glass-Steagall Act that prohibited a bank from offering investment, commercial banking, and insurance services which precipitated the mortgage crisis which "fucked up all this crap we are facing now."
FYI Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman called Gramm "the father of the financial crisis."
laleeloolelo 2 years ago 2
I think at this point Republican party should just give up and quit. I'm mean this getting embarrassing.
saper321 2 years ago
The republican party is dead. It is the conservative folks that you need to watch from here on out. The people that used to be called the great silent majority. You will get a glimpse of them at some of these Tax Revolt marches around the country on April 15th. These are people who have never taken to the streets before. They are new at it. They will find it awkward at first, but they are angry now and will dedicate themselves to the proposition that America is great WITHOUT SOCIALISM.
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
I hope the Wall Street bankers would join the "Tax Revolt" with you guys since they too will suffer from the Obama's Tax hike on top 5% of income level.
VoodooPolitics101 2 years ago
young liberal fools are going learn the hard way with obama !!!! i did with NO GAS NO JOB NO GUTS CARTER the worst pres ever.. i made more money with bush than any other time in my life...by the way the dems have been in control of congress the last TWO YEARS...
mike1111qq 2 years ago
yah just like haliburton that made 100billion stolen from taxpayers, great job Bush!
maha77 2 years ago
You said: "young liberal fools are going learn the hard way with obama !"
Learn what?
That Obama proposed tax rate is SIMILAR TO CLINTON'S?
Oh yeah America PROSPERS WHEN CLINTON WAS PRESIDENT remember?
"i made more money with bush than any other time in my life."
Even compared to Clinton presidency when America so prosperous it has SURPLUS?
laleeloolelo 2 years ago
The Clinton administration laid the groundwork for what we are going through right now. It ended with a .dom bust and profected out into the future what we now know as the sub prime bust.
Clinton sold out to the Chinese. Clinton is sociopath. And you are defending Clinton?
GreatSatan1 2 years ago
took me several minutes to read it LOL!!!!
Good job GOP!
lewghost 2 years ago
i would rather have a Trillion dollar stim bill with 1100 pages that needs voted on now.. right now. dont read it .just vote its a crississ. a real bad one. so hurry vote. even if you did read it you wouldent understand the way all the crap is worded... o yea.. the pres will sign it in a few days .but still hurry and vote its a CRISIS....
mike1111qq 2 years ago
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procommenter 2 years ago
Bush was the 1st President in USA history to cut taxes in time of war (most of Bush's cuts costing billions went to the top 5%)
That screwed up our country in a big way & the new tax proposal by the GOP is specially designed to get more billions to the top 5%.
I can understand the top 5% voting for the GOP, but are there enuf idiots in the country to give them 46% more to make it 51% at election time.
DillonX 2 years ago 3
carter started it.... community reinvestment act... or should i say something for nothing act...
mike1111qq 2 years ago
Look up the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act and the Commodity Futures Market Act - those are the Acts that allowed regular banks to mix with financial institutions that played risky games and made them "too big to fail", as well as allowing them to give out credit default swaps like candy. THOSE are the reasons we are in the mess we are in right now, not the Community Reinvestment Act.
technicschic 2 years ago 2
Gramm-Leach-Bliley Actwas signed into law by DEMOCRATIC President Bill CLINTON on November 12, 1999
mike1111qq 2 years ago
And guess who was in control of Congress at the time? Heck, guess you wrote/authored the bill? Republicans, including Phil "Nation of whiners" Gramm. Oh, and by the way, the Republicans were in such control during that era that they threatened to shut down Congress and the government - remember that?
technicschic 2 years ago
Clinton was a Dem in name only, sorta like Eisenhower being a Republican.
KreemieNewgatt 2 years ago
Minister of BS, Gibbs. What a clown.
Meatpieandtatters 2 years ago
Lets split the country up and dems and reps can duke it out in one half, and the Americans can take the Constitution over to the other half.
Cleancutchaos 2 years ago
I think Gibbs would have said something else about this if he had realized that Obama's entire advertising campaign was mostly comprised of pictures of windmills as well. With little more then the words Hope and Change in them as far as text went. Obama told us to wait till (his team) finished up there policy and plans on energy. It seems only fair to give the Republicans the same opportunity.
kamamootra 2 years ago
really? You're going to compare a budget bill to overall campaigning? Seriously? You think having complicated charts and intricate uses of numbers would attract casual voters? Did McCain do that?
angelikal 2 years ago
OMG-the GOP plan is once again to help the top 5% by making everything over $100,000 have an inc tax of 25%.
The Public needs to wake up & see what's happening.
The inc tax is about the only tax left that's progressive now - all other taxes are regressive - which means they hurt the lower & middle classes more than the upper class.
1 of the most regressive is the Soc Sec Tax. I'm self-employed so I must pay about 15% in SS tax - while Dick Cheney & his buddies pay around 1% SS tax,
DillonX 2 years ago
why are you talking about just the SS tax, when overall the anyone in the top 5% bracket accounts for over 40% of the federal tax income
ps for a side note, why should a person care about SS cause they are smart and should have their own retirement setup that totally ignores SS. SS is only a SUPPLEMENT to any individuals own retirement. Once again SS is another system which is outdated and should of been disbanded, however once the government receives power, they never give it back.
chivasusa 2 years ago
watch?v=TsNZSzwPxU0
ozne64 2 years ago
Lol great description od the Gop budget....
Hmmm ho yeah, there is a windmill picture....
Hmmmm ho .... No really that all i can think about right now...
Melpheos1er 2 years ago
If the buck stops with Obama (the spend thrift man) does this mean he will personally pay back the deficit out of his own personal retirement savings, when his change does not work ?
DONEwCA 2 years ago
You know it's funny when even the White House press has a hard time not LOLing
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
Zile, I like cherry kool-aid, you?
OBAMA 2012
johnnycash1 2 years ago
The windmill represents what these Quixote Republicans are fighting against.
Zile, what flavor is the kool-aid?
victorseastrom 2 years ago
Glibs is the biggest, most arrogant dufus to ever stand behind that podium. Gawd, libs are a mess!
Zile77 2 years ago
>Gawd, libs are a mess!
>Gawd, Conservatives are a mess!
Fix'd
Buzzap14 2 years ago
Just like a true conservative GOP wackjob. A moron that doesn't know he is a moron. Gibbs is trying his best to not bust out laughing and the incredibly incompetent and comical actions of the GOP with a budget that has NO FUCKING NUMBERS. Zile, are you serious? He did a great job.
hackerblaster 2 years ago
John Boehner's "Well here it is Mr. President" line was the greatest piece of political theater I've seen in a while.
terrence0258 2 years ago
Death to Reaganomics
Joe402 2 years ago
Joe402-- The Obama budget increases federal spending by a fiscally insane 34% over the Bush's budget for last year, with a total of $4 Trillion in federal spending, the highest ever! That equals 28.5% of GDP, an increase in the size of government for Obamas first year of 42%!!!!
The deficit will be $1.845 Trillion this year, according to the CBO — the highest ever since World War II. More than 4x Reagans largest deficit, which caused so much howling among liberals and Democrats, stupid fools!
Zile77 2 years ago
Zile do ANYONE ever change their mind due to your comments?
I'm not here to change mind either but at least i'm not ranting.
laleeloolelo 2 years ago 2
you do know that he is including the cost of the "war on terror" in the new budget, something that bush did not. the republicans want a 25% flat tax on incomes over $100,000 as well , which would cost just as much money and do nothing to help us. and since when do republicans care about the deficit? 8P
deaftone311 2 years ago
deaftone311
they all want the same thing.. dems or rep's
they want to take away freedoms and consolidate power...
you god damn sheep!
Donninator1 2 years ago
Democrats and the White house gave a budget without any hope. ...but isn't that what Obama ran on?
iwillspyonyou 2 years ago
Did you watch the video? The republicans have only one idea, Tax breaks for rich people, Nothing else. Obama has problems? Your party is riding itself over a cliff. Be actual fiscal conservatives and propose some fiscal responsibility instead of just wasting time on more tax cuts that don't seem to have fixed the problems in the past.
snarkwaupaca 2 years ago
snark, you've fallen for the liberal lies of class warfare. Dems want you to be poor and hate the rich so that it keeps YOU in your place, always whining about the rich folks when it is the dems who are actually the rich folks. Don't you know that in pollitricks, it's always the opposite? Well you do now!
Zile77 2 years ago
Oh yes, those "evil" Dems - they only want to give tax cuts to 95% of the people instead of the top 5%, they only want to have EVERYONE be healthy instead of the top 1% who are the only ones who can afford healthcare, they only want to make sure people have a WORKING WAGE - yes, they sure want to KEEP you poor - *rme* Go read the book What's The Matter With Kansas.
technicschic 2 years ago 2
and your boss is going to hire more people and pay more taxes????? or maybe he will get rid of some people to pay his taxes??? witch makes more sence????
mike1111qq 2 years ago
Robert Gibbs is a funny dude.
I didn't like him at first...having gotten used to Dana Perino and her style of nervously-stating-the-obvious.
But Gibbs is more tongue-in-cheek....as evidenced here and in the past.
pa6xylly 2 years ago
The GOP is so sick now.
We need a new party to replace the GOP.
DillonX 2 years ago
I believe in the GOP, let them back in office for 8 more years, I'm sure they'll come up with something ... NOT!
carrierexchange 2 years ago
LOL!!
Aimss33 2 years ago
the republicans have the same numbers for the budget that Obama has against decriminalization of marijuana
Obama thinks 90 billion a year is not good for America...
xlioilx 2 years ago
President Obama has enough sense to know if he wants to get Health Care reform passed addressing the decriminalization of marijuana in anyway would be suicidal. States can and will decriminalize pot on their own and if you pay attention you will see that AG Holder is already making that task easier with the recent change in medical marijuana policy. Have a little patience.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago
I really don't care I can smoke when ever I want now I just gotta do it on the down low =P Obama is just feeding the criminals. i would buy some land just to grow on if it was legal here in the USA so people wouldn't have to pay gangsters in Mexico that put harmful shit in their pot I"ve seen it all from metal shavings to encasing bricks in laundry detergent and our kids smoke that horrible weed they even had pot laced with mercury are kids are the ones suffering from this war on drugs the most
xlioilx 2 years ago
Did you notice that after President Obama took the question people actually started talking about legalization without blowing a gasket, it will happen but it will take time.
Ender1zero1 2 years ago 2
If anything, Gibbs doesn't seem to fully grasp the spirit of reaching out and working with the other side of the aisle, considering all his sneering remarks towards republicans.
That said, i haven't heard a single idea come from the republicans other than 'NO', so perhaps its hard to blame him.
gcalvanetten 2 years ago 3
Obama tried that and they spit in his face. I would consider Obama foolish if he continues to waste his time working with reThuglicans. Foolishness is not doing foolish things, It is doing the same thing a second time and expecting a different result.
BTW: I would like the voice of some fiscal conservatives in this fight but the GOP has turned into the party of tax breaks for rich people.
snarkwaupaca 2 years ago
If I had to choose. I would choose the one with the windmills. I have a feeling the one without the windmills says we will spend 1,000,000,000,000
dollars and get your wallets out.
iron1215 2 years ago
We will definitely spend a trillion with the Republican's budget as well.
Superplatanoman 2 years ago
Ehh I like him, I think hes far more realistic than anyone I've seen take that job before. He doesn't know everything, true but he has a personal opinion. I think that counts as far as relaying whats up. If he doesn't know he try's to relay what he does about any given situation.
grumpherys 2 years ago
What a fucking idiot Gibbs is. President Obama get rid of this retard. A kindergartner can speak more eloquently.
Mychaels 2 years ago
You said: "What a fucking idiot Gibbs is."
Sour grape is sour /Sarcasm.
That "fucking idiot" help Obama win the 2008 election.
Oh and he also smart enough to counter Hannityy smear of Obamas "a terrorist" due to an association with Ayers back in 2008, remember that?
laleeloolelo 2 years ago 3
No I am dealing with the here and now. Not the past.
Mychaels 2 years ago
Well in the "here and now" the GOP "road to recovery" plan is so ridiculous even they said so.
Politico Mar 26, 2009:
"In his egocentric rush to get on camera, Mike Pence threw the rest of the Conference under the bus, specifically Paul Ryan, whose staff has been working night and day for weeks to develop a substantive budget plan," said a GOP aide heavily involved in budget strategy."
Who's the "fucking idiot" now?
laleeloolelo 2 years ago 2
I am against the repubs.. I do not like Gibbs. Why cant a person not like someone for the hell of it? The guy is a stumbling fool. Its him. No one else..
Mychaels 2 years ago
You said: "I am against the repubs.. I do not like Gibbs."
Huh?
How can you dislike someone who exposes the people you're against as fools?
laleeloolelo 2 years ago
Being a free thinker I say that he is sending the wrong message. He fudges on his answers. I am against anyone who cannot give clear and decisive answers to a problem.
Mychaels 2 years ago
You said: "He fudges on his answers."
Huh?
Are you watching the same vid?
Sure his joke delivery is a little flat but the point is made.
laleeloolelo 2 years ago
I guess the GOP doesn't exactly know what a "budget" is. No wonder we're all fucked.
Hereticbooks 2 years ago
I have been a moderate my whole life... but damn republicans you guys are making it hard to not just say "fuck it, I'm a democrat now"
And to think... like an idiot I actually thought I would hear something interesting today from their budget.
bigmommamaria 2 years ago 3
You mean the plan to triple the deficit in ten years, double it by 2012? The plan to pass his radical agenda and inslave children to debt that will cost more then their education? The market is erratic and will stay that way until hyperinflation sets in and chokes out all but the most sound businesses? Right on schedule!!
toneo2001 2 years ago
You said: "You mean the plan to pass his radical agenda and inslave (Sic) children to debt that will cost more then their education?"
What "radical agenda"? And how does GOP "budget" any better?
laleeloolelo 2 years ago 4
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WKaliberr 2 years ago
Budget = Tax cuts for the Rich (and a picture of a wind mill) ... no useful numbers. Rest to come later.
PlayT0E 2 years ago 3
Playing the part of the phrase "dumb as hell" in Gibbs' last sentence is the word "interesting".
SquallCloud 2 years ago
C'mon, after being told what to say & do for the last 8 years, they're not used to constructive *thinking*.
peep237 2 years ago
A budget without numbers???? No wonder the Republicans destroyed America over the last eight years.
Richardgwm 2 years ago 5
leave your pride and lame questions at the door as you exit, you just got mocked by the press secretary!
darkally 2 years ago
Like Sen. Gregg (R): " We dont have an alternative plan because we are only 40 people". Yeah, I didn't know you needed 100 people to have a working brain.
freedomanddemocracy 2 years ago 3
*Insert gratuitous light-bulb joke, here*
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 2
I know some folks don't like him, but I get a kick out of Gibbs. I mean how can you take the Republicans seriously?
(I know I'll get at least four replies on that calling me a stupid liberal.)
sachaput 2 years ago 5
What did you expect from a bunch of empty heads?
burntonion05 2 years ago 2
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Based on the GOP's own standards, it isn't a budget.
Bush in 2000 on his budget "It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it."
flang 2 years ago 2
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flang 2 years ago
No numbers ? ? ?
A budget ? ? ?
azas1949 2 years ago 2
I love how the repukes say obamas gonna destroy ur country and take our babaies to fema camps.
But the pres is the only politian to work for poor people and the middle class in over 30 years and 90% of repukes are poor or lower middle class white people.
BobAnonSmith 2 years ago 4
I was born and grew up in the south and I have to say.... it's a strange thing when ignorance is encouraged.
ehkinoh 2 years ago 6
The "social conservatives" are, yes. They've provided the energy (usually anger and resentment) and foot soldiers for the Republican campaigns for the last 30 years. But the operation itself has been funded by the top 1%-ers. It's a pretty scary combination. 30 million superstitious jihadists being bank-rolled by 50 thousand millionaires. Isn't that the al Qaeda system, too?
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago 11
Heh heh. I like that.
IslandHermit 2 years ago
I think it should be obvious by now: Republicans didnt lose the elections - they resigned, left power to the democrats to fix the incredible pile of sh.. they created and prefer to sit on the sideline now, make a few ridiculous comments here and there, draw pictures of windmills and collect their paychecks while waiting for 2012. They seem to hope no one realizes.
13otany13ay 2 years ago 11
my money is on no one will
digiring 2 years ago
Cheap bastards. All they did was put a new cover on their stimulus plan.
Nutrino2179 2 years ago 4
Why is anyone listening to the minority party? Have they given us (the middle class) anything? A budget with tax cuts for the rich-they all need to go see the wizard and get some brains.
IndyBethS 2 years ago 8
If people here actually read the republican plan, you would notice this graph in the middle of it. Which was four captioned shapes (Three of which are circled) and they are all connected one after another. In said shapes you find this (In order):
1) Reforms Medicare & Medicaid
2) Universal Access to Affordable Coverage
3) [REPUBLICAN ROAD TO RECOVERY]
4) Limits Federal Spending
No joke, that's actually in the figure less budget (There is no budget there).
snipzor 2 years ago
In other words, they took a Wassily Kandinsky painting, folded it in half, and slapped a f-ing BLUE COVER on it. These guys have no shame.
OlivierdeAthos 2 years ago
Oh man, the GOP is so embarrassing. I just don't even know anymore. Every time I see them on TV I die of second hand embarrassment.
Mel1334 2 years ago 8
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dogstar7 2 years ago
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What a bunch of con artists.
This is all a con.
They are doing this to destroy are country and take away our liberties!
We must do what the constitution tells us we must do.
Anything else is traitorous!
volumedealer1 2 years ago
You've been watching Glenn Back and posting on Hannity's web page, haven't you? Be honest, now: you can tell me.
MadDogOfist 2 years ago 12
Dude, you totally called it
digiring 2 years ago
You've been asking stupid questions on youtube all day,haven't you?
You can leave another generic comment,go ahead.
volumedealer1 2 years ago
"We must do what the constitution tells us we must do."
Empty platitude.
What exactly are you referring to?
dogstar7 2 years ago
Don't you have to watch the Duck song video again?
volumedealer1 2 years ago
Oh, come on! That video ROCKED!
Still, you have no answer, eh?
Even after you took the trouble to slam me back?
LOL!
Do you even know what part of the Constitution deals with the Federal Budget? If so, what is or is not being done in regard to your interpretation? Can you point to anyone who is actually challenging the Recovery Plan along Constitutional lines? Again, if so, under what statutes?
Otherwise all you have is an unsupported smear.
dogstar7 2 years ago
Nope,why do you ask?
volumedealer1 2 years ago
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icancount2one 2 years ago
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I can't wait until you and the rest of the Alex Jones morons actually do try a revolution so we don't have to listen to you anymore.
Man the militia nuts are coming out of the woodwork now that we have a black prez.
icancount2one 2 years ago
I can't seem to get this to post as a reply to , but it's directed to the idiot the next page over talking about "doing what needs to be done"
icancount2one 2 years ago
it posts as a reply on the 'all comments' page
eljefereal 2 years ago
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volumedealer1 2 years ago
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It's probably you're anus juice.
volumedealer1 2 years ago
I'll tell you the truth, I am part of the NWO, we meet on Sundays and we are taking over the world, and when we take away your liberties we will lock you up in the FEMA camps and make you work and then tax you at 90%. That's our plan.
patitofeo76 2 years ago 5
Dam, The Tinfoilhat Brigade have been right all along!
Goddam my librial mentality!!!
Bosco239 2 years ago 2
Actually you're part of the New World Douchebag.
If anything truly does happen to you.I hope they rip your skin off like bacon.
Love the condescending ridicule.
If you don't notice the lack of liberty and freedom in this country it's pretty much your fault.
Please eat a knife,thanks.
volumedealer1 2 years ago
Strange, none of the Republicans were whining about liberty and freedom when Bush was in office.
When he did something egregiously un-Constitutional or otherwise affronting to civil liberties, we were told to "deal with it," and to respect the office and support the President's decisions regardless of whether we agreed with them or not.
SevenSixTwoNato 2 years ago 4
No shit they're all hypocrites.
1 head of the hydra.
They say oh well Obama is doing this when he said he wasn't going to.
Huckabee who I've seen recently.
But he would never call out Bush when he was in office.
I don't trust any of these people,they're politicians...
volumedealer1 2 years ago
patitofoe,
This is satire right?
TiTSxxMcGEE 2 years ago
No Mr McGee, we liberals are going to do it, this summer. I liked the bat-dog, you seem like a cool guy, because of that I will give you 1 month to save money and move to New Zeland. That is the only country where we will allow conservatives to be in a "free" but controlled environment. Just the few that we decide are somewhat cool will be allowed in NZ, the rest will be locked up in the FEMA camps.
patitofeo76 2 years ago 2
that's got to be a tough job.
Zed2six 2 years ago
i hope so. i hope the whole budget was don quixote or a brochure for the netherlands
beejornk 2 years ago 4
I believe Gibbs, oh, those silly, silly Retardicans!
GlobalSufi 2 years ago 2
So the GOB budget plan is a drawing made by a 5 year old?
robinvan1983 2 years ago 9
That can't be true...can it?
tbone2001 2 years ago 3
Lol..yes it is! The easiest part is saying "NO" to the administration. You gotta come up with an alternative......
ver506 2 years ago 4