Who cares TENOR, "C" SAX or ALTO was his main GIG, but if you can play the SAX you can play the SAX, and he could play a little fast for most, but at the time all was 64 to the Bar. And Stride Piano, let it R.I.P. He was one of the greatest.
At the 2:00 minute mark, Charlie starts his tenor solo. When you wait forever for the trumpet solo to finish, your tenor will be cold, and the reed dry, as he propels out of the gate, he blows some of finest tenor saxophone playing ever performed at any tempo. Bird was the greatest alto and tenor player who ever lived!
Miles was 27, but Sonny Rollins was only 23. Very rare recording , showcasing the excellent group interplay of all involved! Hearing Bird on the tenor, he sounds so natural, as if that was his real horn...Just shows he's a frickin' master at any sax! YardBird could smoke you on any tune, any tempo, any key, any horn!
Actually,there was atad of conyroversy about Compulsion,whereas it was rumored that Miles "stole" the authorship of this and the other tune from this date
Many alto players... e.g. Sonny Stitt, John Coltrane, James Moody, Sahib Shihab, Jimmy Heath... switched to tenor hoping that the influence of Bird would show less. But on this recording Bird is heard on tenor sax, exposing the young Sonny Rollins as a true Parker epigone. Just listen to Rollins' phrasing: it is so much Bird!
As a Parker influenced player and Parker addicted, i must say i never liked him playig the Tenor. Looks he is making such an effort to sound good, and on alto he has such a fluent language and beautifull sound.
Sorry to post this comment, but i love Parker too much to compare him to other tenor players.
I fully agree with colgarlavisera on everything he says!
@colgarlavisera When you cats talk about jazz...I haven't a clue what in heavens name you talking about, but I feel I'm in some esoteric club and I like it!
@colgarlavisera When you cats talk about jazz...I haven't a clue what in heaven's name you talking about, but I feel I'm in some esoteric music club and I like it!
Bird took the 1st solo!! He stays melodious [keeps singin'] into the bridge. You can only hear the chord change when rollins goes into the bridge + you can hear a bit of st. thomas twice, in the 2nd [rollins!] solo. I'm willing to bet $25,000.00 cash that it is Bird playin' the 1st tenor solo. anybody?
Bird and Miles were reportedly dissatisfied with this album ('Collector's Items' on Prestige). I find the rhythm section more stimualting than the soloists.
kevinherbert, Sonny's biography 'Open Sky' by Eric Nisenson says: 'It was an infamously chaotic session. Parker arrived at the studio with a large bottle of gin and proceeded to drink all of it himself....' Plus further remarks on the problems of that day's producer Ira Gitler, who subbed for Bob Weinstock.
'So What' by John Szwed relates: '... and Miles was not playing well, coasting through the session...'
I read it in a book called (I think) "Jazz Masters of the '40s", but it was a quart of whisky that was meant to be for all the musicians, but Charlie drank the lot. Miles turned up and Charlie was on the floor comatose. Miles told him it was Miles' session not Charlies...
Miles loved contrast,he got that from Bird.Some one who plays slightly behind like Miles,then you place Bird and Sonny Rollins who play on the beat or even play double time.Bird,Dizzy,The Father of the Tenor sax Solo Coleman Hawkins where all famous for feeling up the space in a bar. Making for great tenison and release.That's why Miles sounded so good with Coltrane and Canonball he could just float over all that backing.Miles playing cool the sax players blowing snakes.
WHAT?! Why have I never heard this song before.... and I call myself a saxophonist? Bird, Rollins, AND Davis; I think this is what Jazz Heaven looks like.
Bebop is a genre of jazz..Jazz is shared to several genres like bebop,hardbop,cool jazz,free jazz.. have to do with the rythm or the harmony that's used..
@bluedoor4 Bebop IS jazz, one type of jazz (just like metal is rock, but only one kind of rock). Bebop began in the early 1940's with Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie and hit its peak of popularity later in the 40's and early 50's. Hope this helps..
@untergeek Thank you ,that's a really good explanation :) I already did the assignment and completely didn't think I would get into Bebop but I really like it a lot now ^^
@bluedoor4 bebop is jazz--its just the name given to the musical genre dizzy,bird,monk, kenny clarke, max roachbud powell, mary lou williams, and others developed in the 1940s, primarily in Harlem.
@bluedoor4 Bebop is a sub genre of Jazz. Jazz isn't as specific a term in labeling the different techniques and progressions that marked certain styles within the Jazz genre. Parker's approach was rather unconventional at the time and that style was eventually labeled Bebop, hence Charlie Parker being the father of Bebop, Bebop Jazz if you like.
Uhhmmm.... where is Parker on this recording? He played alto, and there's one record of him playing tenor sax.... this is a tenor player... could be him on tenor....
It IS a Jan. 53' recording.Where Bird common-deared a bottle of gin? & MIles got angry(when hasn't he been)? It was HIS date) Bird proceeded 2 fall a sleep on a table? Young S. Rollins tnr.
2nd solo, Walter Bishop Jr. p. Percy Heath b.Philly Joe Jones d. "Newk" says he was very influenced by Bird's tnr playing . very unique sound. But? maybe a little intonation problems & "sour notes"? Also an out take of this & The Serpent's tooth & a derge like Rd Mdite.Towards Bird's last sessions
Philly Joe was really "smokin" up in there. The horns get good ideas in their improv solos if they have a good drum behind them, droppin' bombs and snare-ing...you can even call the drummer a "pusher" LOL! ---yuh gotta Love Philly Joe! GOD BLESS HIM.
Might just be me, but the first tenor solo sounds like Bird and the second sounds like Rollins. Its funny because even when Bird blows a tenor, he makes it sound more like an alto...or maybe its just me...
awesome. another time he was recorded on tenor was a recording he did of Sweet Georgia Brown that he did with Dizzy early in his career. i think it was recorded amateur in a hotel room! it's absolutely fantastic, as is this! Thankyou
Joe, your acumen is impressive. Hotel room? Probably during the recording ban . . . what a stupid idea: four or more years missed, and during one of the most important periods in the history of music.
Yes the ban was such an unfortunate event to have taken place and robs us of hearing that vital time when Parker and the likes were realising their new sound of improvisation, experimenting in places like Minton's and Monroe's. Yes, for some time in 1943 Parker played tenor sax for the Earl Hines Orchestra during which time the fascinating 'Hotel Room' recording was made. It can be found on compilations such as "Charlie Parker: Chasin' The Bird" live discs.
Parker also played tenor sax on a 1947 session led by Miles Davis. Among the tunes recorded were "Sippin at Bells", "Little Willie Leaps", and "Half Nelson".
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1wvserenity 4 months ago
Parker on tenor. Priceless.
Happyascanbe1 4 months ago
I sense that this man has had a great influence on many jazz musicians. And perhaps other types of musicians as well.
ZLUGGO 5 months ago
Damn!
BashuUp 6 months ago
One of top 5 important jazz-recordings!
jazzuffe 7 months ago
omg he is a god!!!!
happygoloopyrocks 8 months ago
♥♫♪☼
decus69 9 months ago
Bebop til the bone!!
marock999 10 months ago
This is just amazing ! you can know more about this here it's a great documentary :
stagevu.com/video/ulnjeqpoxazl
LajmiKhalil 11 months ago
thank you jazz for stealing my heart...
MrColewa 1 year ago
it's great.
funkeemon 1 year ago
TENOR PARKER WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
timeout666 1 year ago
yes,
the first tenor solo is bird, sounds like bird, and the second is sonny rollins,
toscanosax 1 year ago
;) :)
BekyReby 1 year ago
This could be Charlie Parker on TENOR sax ..a RARE occasion for the first solo and Sonny Rollins thereafter
The rhythym section is fantastic especially the great Philly Joe Jones
Never heard those
Bumblebee38 1 year ago
Well... Jazz! ? Well... Frigin incredible some of the most wonderful bebop lines are in this piece incredible music. :)
foshoitscam 1 year ago
niiiiice!!!
uriw1989 1 year ago
Who cares TENOR, "C" SAX or ALTO was his main GIG, but if you can play the SAX you can play the SAX, and he could play a little fast for most, but at the time all was 64 to the Bar. And Stride Piano, let it R.I.P. He was one of the greatest.
ipadharmony 1 year ago
The Best Horn Player Ever.
lawrencefinney 1 year ago
that's Rollins rollin' on the tenor
AmeenRaa 1 year ago
At the 2:00 minute mark, Charlie starts his tenor solo. When you wait forever for the trumpet solo to finish, your tenor will be cold, and the reed dry, as he propels out of the gate, he blows some of finest tenor saxophone playing ever performed at any tempo. Bird was the greatest alto and tenor player who ever lived!
kingkoeller 1 year ago
Bird was 33 years old in 1953,
Miles was 27, but Sonny Rollins was only 23. Very rare recording , showcasing the excellent group interplay of all involved! Hearing Bird on the tenor, he sounds so natural, as if that was his real horn...Just shows he's a frickin' master at any sax! YardBird could smoke you on any tune, any tempo, any key, any horn!
Bird Lives!
kingkoeller 1 year ago 2
Wow.....i didnt know charlie parker played tenor......i feel kinda dumb....
DTate16 1 year ago
the first saxophone solo is parker's ?
baazz1 2 years ago
Actually,there was atad of conyroversy about Compulsion,whereas it was rumored that Miles "stole" the authorship of this and the other tune from this date
"The Serpent's Tooth",from tenorman
Jimmy Heath. Never resolved,Though!
perryjthomas 2 years ago
the personnel for this date was: Bird &
Sonny Rollins;tenors,Miles Davis;trumpet,
Walter Bishop,Jr; piano,Percy Heath;Bass,
& Philly Joe Jones ; drums......recorded in
1953.
perryjthomas 2 years ago
yo r you sure it woz a parker tune
bopkick5 2 years ago
OH I got these sessions. Believe it or not there are actually TWO tenor players on this: Charlie Parker and Sonny Rollins.
robertd1253 2 years ago
i like from 0:56 onward, that break down is just too good. man i love this song!!!
PioYPK 2 years ago
Gr8 Post...thanx
kevinherbert 2 years ago
Bird on tenor...I can hardly believe it.
Morahman7vnNo2 2 years ago
who is the pianist?
MrArrpee 2 years ago
Many alto players... e.g. Sonny Stitt, John Coltrane, James Moody, Sahib Shihab, Jimmy Heath... switched to tenor hoping that the influence of Bird would show less. But on this recording Bird is heard on tenor sax, exposing the young Sonny Rollins as a true Parker epigone. Just listen to Rollins' phrasing: it is so much Bird!
colgarlavisera 2 years ago 14
Hello to all!
As a Parker influenced player and Parker addicted, i must say i never liked him playig the Tenor. Looks he is making such an effort to sound good, and on alto he has such a fluent language and beautifull sound.
Sorry to post this comment, but i love Parker too much to compare him to other tenor players.
I fully agree with colgarlavisera on everything he says!
Long live us all musicians!
gamasax 2 years ago 3
@colgarlavisera When you cats talk about jazz...I haven't a clue what in heavens name you talking about, but I feel I'm in some esoteric club and I like it!
GReYSTOKE2012 1 year ago
@colgarlavisera When you cats talk about jazz...I haven't a clue what in heaven's name you talking about, but I feel I'm in some esoteric music club and I like it!
GReYSTOKE2012 1 year ago
Tenor was always the power horn.
Flextones 2 years ago
Actually, Parker is recognizable after his first two notes! His tenor solo is first. Rollins enters at 3:03
lljtam1960 2 years ago
mmmm such a tasty arrangement!
bodhimian 2 years ago 4
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what album is this from?
johnrondot 2 years ago
as a matter of fact bird has a fatter sound also - which one did you think is bird???
AmeenRaa 2 years ago
BLOW!!
Anghdhpstr 2 years ago
If you can't hear the difference, Rollins has the big-fat tenor sound.
acfinney 2 years ago
Bird took the 1st solo!! He stays melodious [keeps singin'] into the bridge. You can only hear the chord change when rollins goes into the bridge + you can hear a bit of st. thomas twice, in the 2nd [rollins!] solo. I'm willing to bet $25,000.00 cash that it is Bird playin' the 1st tenor solo. anybody?
AmeenRaa 2 years ago 3
I'll add my $25K to yours.
TRBrownn 2 years ago
Bird and Miles were reportedly dissatisfied with this album ('Collector's Items' on Prestige). I find the rhythm section more stimualting than the soloists.
BuckshotLaFunke 2 years ago
BLaFunke: what's your source for that claim?
kevinherbert 2 years ago
kevinherbert, Sonny's biography 'Open Sky' by Eric Nisenson says: 'It was an infamously chaotic session. Parker arrived at the studio with a large bottle of gin and proceeded to drink all of it himself....' Plus further remarks on the problems of that day's producer Ira Gitler, who subbed for Bob Weinstock.
'So What' by John Szwed relates: '... and Miles was not playing well, coasting through the session...'
BuckshotLaFunke 2 years ago
Thanx for the reference: I 'll buy it.
kevinherbert 2 years ago
I read it in a book called (I think) "Jazz Masters of the '40s", but it was a quart of whisky that was meant to be for all the musicians, but Charlie drank the lot. Miles turned up and Charlie was on the floor comatose. Miles told him it was Miles' session not Charlies...
mymusicdiscovery 2 years ago
Miles loved contrast,he got that from Bird.Some one who plays slightly behind like Miles,then you place Bird and Sonny Rollins who play on the beat or even play double time.Bird,Dizzy,The Father of the Tenor sax Solo Coleman Hawkins where all famous for feeling up the space in a bar. Making for great tenison and release.That's why Miles sounded so good with Coltrane and Canonball he could just float over all that backing.Miles playing cool the sax players blowing snakes.
hremdldw 2 years ago 2
It's hard to believe how great Philly Joe is playing on this track.
Jazzanswer 2 years ago 2
WHAT?! Why have I never heard this song before.... and I call myself a saxophonist? Bird, Rollins, AND Davis; I think this is what Jazz Heaven looks like.
Ducki08 2 years ago
you mean this is what Jazz Heaven SOUNDS like.
sjanimefreak 2 years ago 3
To everyone who wonders..!
This is a bebop song that I found on a Charlie Parker Jazz CD. In the booklet you can read:
17. Compulsion - Davis - 5'47" - New York, 30.1.1953 - Miles Davis Sextet:
Miles Davis: Trumpet
Charlie Parker, Sonny Rollins: Tenor sax
Walter Bishop: Piano
Percy Heath: Bass
"Philly" Joe Jones: Drums
Ostmacka 2 years ago 3
@Ostmacka
Charlie Parker is PLAYING THE TENOR !
JUSfr34k 1 year ago
is this Jazz or Bebop?
bluedoor4 2 years ago
Bebop.
When I put this video on youtube I wasn't really into who was who and what was what. I just liked the music. But now I know more!
Ostmacka 2 years ago
sweet thanks alot ^^
bluedoor4 2 years ago
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Bebop is a style of jazz
zartonis 2 years ago
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zartonis 2 years ago
@Ostmacka Bebop is a form of jazz I'm pretty sure.
shaina0454 11 months ago
Bebop is a genre of jazz..Jazz is shared to several genres like bebop,hardbop,cool jazz,free jazz.. have to do with the rythm or the harmony that's used..
xatzidakis 2 years ago 2
the Bebop is kind of jazz genre just it Charlie Parkers time :)
FilipSaxMkd 1 year ago
@bluedoor4 Bebop IS jazz, one type of jazz (just like metal is rock, but only one kind of rock). Bebop began in the early 1940's with Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie and hit its peak of popularity later in the 40's and early 50's. Hope this helps..
untergeek 11 months ago
@untergeek Thank you ,that's a really good explanation :) I already did the assignment and completely didn't think I would get into Bebop but I really like it a lot now ^^
bluedoor4 11 months ago
@bluedoor4 well that's kind of like saying "is this painting or cubism" : p
petezilla 9 months ago
@bluedoor4 bebop is jazz--its just the name given to the musical genre dizzy,bird,monk, kenny clarke, max roachbud powell, mary lou williams, and others developed in the 1940s, primarily in Harlem.
blackrocknutt 7 months ago
infect bebop os a sub genre of jazz so this is bebop jazz music (and it's amazing) :) @bluedoor4
yoyozmagic 5 months ago
@bluedoor4
jazz is the be bop:))))
Vahayr 5 months ago
Respond to this video...
THATS JAZZ:))
Vahayr 5 months ago 2
@bluedoor4 Bebop is a sub genre of Jazz. Jazz isn't as specific a term in labeling the different techniques and progressions that marked certain styles within the Jazz genre. Parker's approach was rather unconventional at the time and that style was eventually labeled Bebop, hence Charlie Parker being the father of Bebop, Bebop Jazz if you like.
Frikzter 5 months ago
smoooooooth
jackiemickie 2 years ago
Uhhmmm.... where is Parker on this recording? He played alto, and there's one record of him playing tenor sax.... this is a tenor player... could be him on tenor....
holygroove2 2 years ago
Sonny Rollins on tenor.....
goodchessactor 2 years ago
In the booklet you can read:
17. Compulsion - Davis - 5'47" - New York, 30.1.1953 - Miles Davis Sextet:
Miles Davis: Trumpet
Charlie Parker, Sonny Rollins: Tenor sax
Walter Bishop: Piano
Percy Heath: Bass
"Philly" Joe Jones: Drums
Ostmacka 2 years ago 2
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oddofax 2 years ago
Really? I can't tell, I just quoted the cd booklet and believed it to be right, man...
Ostmacka 2 years ago
thats bird playing the 2nd tenor solo.
mdsharp5 2 years ago
Bird takes the first tenor solo; Rollins the second.
lljtam1960 2 years ago
Correct !!!!
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
Bird is playing tenor saxophone. (1st saxophone solo.)
You probably are used to hearing his alto.
Jazzanswer 2 years ago
Parker takes the first tenor solo; Rollins the second.
lljtam1960 2 years ago
No it is the other way around ????
Bumblebee38 2 years ago
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wiebehayes 2 years ago
Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool!
thiri1902 2 years ago 2
im researching john coltrane for a school report and what i've found so far is that charlie parker was a huge idol for him actually...
b0ttomzone 2 years ago 2
Cool stuff. thx for posting.
For other great jazz, feel free to visit my blog (url see profile).
See ya there,
Bruno "Brewbop" Leicht
BrunoJazzmanLeicht 2 years ago 5
I love Bebop!
PlayingForMoney 2 years ago
I asked Roy Haynes in 2007 about the quart of whisky (?) story but he just smiled ...!!
mymusicdiscovery 2 years ago
It IS a Jan. 53' recording.Where Bird common-deared a bottle of gin? & MIles got angry(when hasn't he been)? It was HIS date) Bird proceeded 2 fall a sleep on a table? Young S. Rollins tnr.
2nd solo, Walter Bishop Jr. p. Percy Heath b.Philly Joe Jones d. "Newk" says he was very influenced by Bird's tnr playing . very unique sound. But? maybe a little intonation problems & "sour notes"? Also an out take of this & The Serpent's tooth & a derge like Rd Mdite.Towards Bird's last sessions
cemmi2 2 years ago
Can you guys tell me in which cd i can find this exact version? thanks in advance.
flatbackbass 3 years ago
It's from a cd I actually could'nt find on Google, sorry :P It's called something like "18 top tracks" "Charlie Parker"
Ostmacka 3 years ago
This version is from the Miles Davis album "Collector's Items". It should be readily available on amazon.
JazzCat934 3 years ago
Very nice indeed
mag1cjumba 3 years ago
J'adore!
Sweetydu972 3 years ago
I always into fiery blowing... is this buddy rich on set?
RyS182 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure Miles wrote the tune and Bird did some fiery blowing on it.
CheneyPinata 3 years ago
bird lives
lemmy79CeL 3 years ago 4
Philly Joe was really "smokin" up in there. The horns get good ideas in their improv solos if they have a good drum behind them, droppin' bombs and snare-ing...you can even call the drummer a "pusher" LOL! ---yuh gotta Love Philly Joe! GOD BLESS HIM.
BoboBerlinsky 3 years ago
yeah miles really blew in his solo that is, in a good way. he plays behind the beat and seemed to be the first guy of his kind.
stones0731 3 years ago
that's music right there
ruyboy 3 years ago 3
fantastic !!!!
robma1234 3 years ago
So whose the sax player soloing there?
theclavious 3 years ago
Might just be me, but the first tenor solo sounds like Bird and the second sounds like Rollins. Its funny because even when Bird blows a tenor, he makes it sound more like an alto...or maybe its just me...
abzs2k 3 years ago 2
I agree.
bobbygoesbig 2 years ago 2
ok; it shows how much Miles used to be a great musicien. The legend of masters, in this this session, he was really the boss.
Thouveninpascal 3 years ago
Miles Davis -- Prestige 1953
Rollins, Parker -- tenors, Walter Bishop - piano, Percy Heath - bass, Philly Joe Jones - drums Compulsion 5.43
One of the few times Charlie recorded on the tenor. This was a group fronted by Miles Davis.
tommythomaso 3 years ago
awesome. another time he was recorded on tenor was a recording he did of Sweet Georgia Brown that he did with Dizzy early in his career. i think it was recorded amateur in a hotel room! it's absolutely fantastic, as is this! Thankyou
joebandana 3 years ago
Joe, your acumen is impressive. Hotel room? Probably during the recording ban . . . what a stupid idea: four or more years missed, and during one of the most important periods in the history of music.
tommythomaso 3 years ago
Yes the ban was such an unfortunate event to have taken place and robs us of hearing that vital time when Parker and the likes were realising their new sound of improvisation, experimenting in places like Minton's and Monroe's. Yes, for some time in 1943 Parker played tenor sax for the Earl Hines Orchestra during which time the fascinating 'Hotel Room' recording was made. It can be found on compilations such as "Charlie Parker: Chasin' The Bird" live discs.
joebandana 3 years ago
Parker also played tenor sax on a 1947 session led by Miles Davis. Among the tunes recorded were "Sippin at Bells", "Little Willie Leaps", and "Half Nelson".
upphetsade 3 years ago
NICE IMA LOOK THOSE UP!!
coronachilla 3 years ago