God is offended by receiving Him on "dirty" hands(ONLY priest can touch Him) in the Holy Eucharist!
Only accepted by Heaven form of receiving living Heart of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist of the Catholic Church is into our mouth and on our both knees!
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God....." Exodus 20.
@patcaddagh You must have had a very bad experience.What could have happened ,my friend that would cause you to not believe in God while so much evidence exist.I was very close to being an athiest and had a very moving,Godly experience.Please tell your story..Thanks
You may have been a priest, what ever happened has happened, but dont lose faith in yourself and what is around you. You came upon this video for a reason, YOU decided to... their is something inside you you're not wanting to let go; and I'm glad it hasn't. If this is your choice it is your choice, no one should force it on to you.
Blessed be Jesus Christ in the Most Blessed and Holy Sacrament of the Altar and in the hearts of His faithful people. This is the most glorious and wonderful action of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as time and Eternity are transfixed and Jesus Christ Himself is fully present as the Host becomes His body and the wine becomes His Most Precious Blood. The Sanctus bells alert us to this great Eucharistic Mystery during the Consecration in the Canon of the Mass.
THIS IS PROOF THAT ONLY CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST AND HIS HOLY SACRAMENTS!!!
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While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Matthew 26:26-28
Jesus himself said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me” (John 14:6). In Matt. 16:13-20, Jesus asked his disciples a very important question, “Who do you say that I am?” Jesus is asking the key question of the Bible: he is asking us to correctly identify him. This is the question that inspects the very foundation of the Christian faith. If we do not now who the real Jesus is, then we can not be saved. ..
@kiwichristian2009 ...We can not get to the true Heaven with a false Jesus. The real Jesus of the Bible is the true foundation (rock) of the Christian faith. He is the rock of salvation. Even Peter claimed that Jesus is the rock, the cornerstone that the builders rejected (Acts 4:10 & 1 Peter 2:1-6). Paul says, “For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ... ‘the rock was Christ.’”(1 Cor. 3:11 &10:4).
No mention is made of Peter ever being in Rome at ANY time in the 27 documents of the oldest existing record of the Christian Faith. The Apostle Paul wrote an Epistle to the church at Rome, named approximately SIXTEEN (16) people, by name, and never mentioned Peter. That was NO oversight on his part. Peter was never there! Peter's tomb was also discovered outside *Jerusalem*; there is historical documentation to verify this factor...
@kiwichristian2009 ...Even if that were not the case, Paul's neglect at mentioning Peter, in Romans 16, is INEXCUSABLE, if Peter were Head of the Church. There is no evidence for the Papacy from Peter himself.
St. Philomena was made a saint by leo XII and pope gregory XVI blessed one of her images. Rome later admitted that she NEVER EXISTED and in 1961 struck her off the list of saints!
Jesus never established a single bishop over a multiplicity of others; rather,He established an impartial order of service.However, men departed from the original pattern of the Bible in search of power, honor, and deification.The first indication of this desertion was when the distinction between the words,bishops, elders, and pastors was made-titles that are used interchangeably in the Bible (e.g.,Acts 20:17,28;Titus 1:5,7;1 Pet5:1-2; etc.)—thereby giving preeminence to the position of bishop
@kiwichristian2009 Every time there is a change of name in the Bible, there is a mission i.e. Abram to Abraham, Sara to Saraih, Jacob to Israel , Simon to Petros
Mt, 16,18
For THOU (referring to Peter) art PETROS
another translation:
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build MY church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
The catholic church was built by Jesus, the rest by men since the reformation of Luther around 1500
@gabbydeJesus I wish catholics would learn to think for themselves. You complete ignore the conversation that puts that sentance into context. "you are petros ( a small pebble) and upon this petra ( a massive rock) I shall build My church....." Christ built His church upon Himself, upon the faith Peter had and upon our faith in Christ. Not Peter the person.
@gabbydeJesus Based on your definition of "protestant", then yay, i am not a protestant. Thank you for clarifying it as i get different answers from different catholics, so it's kind of hard to know which is the true meaning. I am proud to be a Bible Believing Christian. You are semi-right, because i am not infallible, i do NOT know all the answers and i am happy to admit that. Peter was certainly charged to preaching the gospel to the gentiles.
@kiwichristian2009 sorry to say this to you but you are a protestant because you have trusted luther in order to interpret the Bible for you, i.e. sola fide and blah blah
Also I am proud to be a Bible believing but no dare to built my own church just because I do not understand some of the teachings the catholic faith claims, I trust Jesus words : The power of hades will not prevail against it...
Luther trusted more in his own private interpretation
@gabbydeJesus I'm sorry, my friend, you are wrong. I have never studied luther and i read the Bible myself and believe what it says. Answer me this, please. Can you describe exactly HOW i trust a person i have never studied or read of when i read the Bible myself? You do NOT believe the Bible because the Bible condemns most catholic practises.
@gabbydeJesus One question, why did Peter never describe himself as a leader or pope-like person? Why is there no evidence for the Papacy from Peter himself?
@gabbydeJesus Hello friend. The true church of Jesus Christ is a relationship, not a membership. It isn’t any particular protestant denomination or Roman catholic. It doesn't have a roof or an address. We are the Body of Christ, past, present and future from all around the world who have accepted Christ’s work on the cross for our sins 2000 years ago, once and for all. Our names have been written in the Book of Life from the beginning. 1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given.
@johnthreesixteen316 Hello John , I have a personal relationship with Jesus my Lord and Saviour....
and, of course we are the body of Christ but if you have read the old testament, God wanted Solomon built a temple where everybody can gather together for offering sacrifices and in the new testament Jesus gave us his body and blood ... and said to Peter: Matthew 16, 18
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
@johnthreesixteen316 Hello John I have a personal relationship with Jesus my Lord and Saviour
of course we are the body of Christ but if you have read the old testament, God wanted Solomon built a temple where everybody can gather together for offering sacrifices and in the new testament Jesus gave us his body and blood ... and said to Peter: Matthew 16, 18
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
@gabbydeJesus "you totally forgot the main point in the Word of God: love and humility," I love you. I love all catholics, muslims, mormons, etc. SO does God. Have i ever personally attacked you as a person? Or am i questioning your beliefs that just maybe could be wrong? Think about it. Humility? If you knew my background, you would know i was and still am a dirty, filthy, disgusting sinner. I sin every day. I would be in hell tight now if God gave me what i deserve.
@gabbydeJesus "You maybe know the whole Bible by memory", Wow, so many assumptions, my friend. I am terrible at memory verses, i have to look most things up in the Word of God. Do i act according to the commands of God? No, i don't.
" I wish catholics would learn to think for themselves"
so I assume: Am I a robot or bot who can not think by myself?
maybe I have stolen some elses mind to be able to write here
I have found this attitude so many times, it is so typical, when a person agrees with protestants beliefs, then it is smart, when "we" catholics do not agree with all of you, so we are so "ignorant" and "can not think"
I apologyse though my english is bad, I am not a native speaker
@gabbydeJesus Hi, my friend. what i mean is that catholics tend to quote a lot from what their church has told them to say. Like standard, automatic responses, rather than replying from their hearts in their own words. I am not saying i don't quote. I do it all the time! But i am not in an international organised institution, or indeed in a religion at all, but a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. Your English is fine, by the way, i am one of only two white people in my church. hehe.
@gabbydeJesus and all other Catholics: Ignore kiwi. He/she comes to all these beautiful Catholic videos merely to stir up trouble and argument. "All of you should be... humble. Do not return evil for evil or insult for insult. Return a blessing instead" I Peter 3:8-9; "Resist him, solid in your faith." I Peter 5:9; He/she simply cannot refute I Thessalonians 5:9, the key word being "acquiring". Bless kiwi and do not curse him/her, pray for kiwi, nothing else. +JMJ+
@gabbydeJesus Christ asks Simon who He was and he replies "you are the missiah the Christ" and Christ responds by saying well done Simon for this truth did not to you from men but from God. You will be called (in Greek) petros (a pebble) and on this Petra (rock) I will build my church. what Christ was saying is that He is the foundation, He is the corner stone to the Church...
@gabbydeJesus ...He is also the stone that the builders reject as useless that turned out to be the most important of all and nobody can lay any other. "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid,which is Jesus Christ."1 Corinthians 3:11. "This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner." Acts 4:11. "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." 1Cor10:4
@gabbydeJesus Hello friend. If you look at all of the other Petra references in the New Testament you will see that they refer to Christ Himself everytime. For thou art petros and upon this petra is no different. It is refering to Christ.
@johnthreesixteen316 Your words " I wish catholics would learn to think for themselves"
so I assume; Am I a robot or bot or someone who can not think by myself???
maybe I have stolen someone elses mind to be able to write here.
Dont worry I have found this typical attitude from all the bible christians and anyone who agrees with them are so smart, while we, catholics are so "ignorant" and "can not think"
I apologyse though my english is bad am not a native speaker.
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds."
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless.
Please show all what Bible has to say about faith. otherwise is partial
@gabbydeJesus My friend. Good works are a RESULT of salvation, not a MEANS of it. Again i quote you Eph. 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOTof yourselves: it is the gift of God: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast."
@gabbydeJesus Galations 2:16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who DOES the will of my Father who is in heaven."
Mt 25,34-36 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink I was a stranger and you invited Me in naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; .
@gabbydeJesus Mark2:5-11"Who can forgive sins but God only?". Jn20:23's meanins is, not that man can fogive sins, because only God can, but that they were to declare on what terms and conditions, to what characters, and to what attitude of mind, God would forgive sins. Show me where the apostles ever heard a confession?
so.... Jesus is in.. stuff? and not at the right hand of God? i have a strong feeling that Jesus taught spirituality and not religious voodoo. John 6:63/65 "The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are Spirit and they are life" "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him."... so if the flesh counts for nothing... maybe what we eat and what we DO means nothing.. but faith in Jesus means everything... maybe..
@crunkpunk777 You got it. 1 Corinthians 10:3,4 "All ate the same SPIRITUAL food, and all drank the same SPIRITUAL drink. For they drank of that SPIRITUAL Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ." It doesn't get much easier to understand than that.
When Christ said to eat His body and drink His blood He was speaking figuratively, not literally. The Book of John also says "unless a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." Does this mean we need to be pushed out of our mother's womb again? Of course not. That would be impossible. Christ offered His body and blood on the cross for us. He wants us to accept His body and blood sacrifice for the atonement of our sins.
@kiwichristian2009 you dont believe that He is God and He can do whatever He wants, even to give us His flesh and blood,
many jews abandoned Him because of the words, they took them literally, Jesus could have said... hey dont go, I didnt mean it, I say it figuratively... what kind a master one who doesnt explain well... even to His apostles ..He said... Do you also wish to go away?
all the protestants went away and didnt believe His words
@gabbydeJesus I beleive God would not contradict or do something that is contrary to what He has said in His Word. In John chapter 6 Christ is speaking about eating His flesh. Then He goes on to explain what He meant....."63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." He is clearly speaking figuratively when he says to 'eat His body and drink His blood'.
And the ones who find this impossible are like muslims, I think, they simple dont believe God can come to us with an actual human body and dying on a cross
They can not acept GOD can do this
It´s the same with you all protestants, your mind can´t acept the fact God has given us His blood and Flesh
@gabbydeJesus Ratranmus wrote: "The bread and wine are the body and blood of Christ in a FIGURATIVE sense" (De corpore et sanguine Christi).Bread and wine are offered, being the FIGURE of the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. They who participate in this visible bread eat, SPIRITUALLY, the flesh of the Lord. (Macarius, Homily xxvii.) Macarius of Egypt (ca. 300-391).
The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a communion in the BLOOD of Christ?The bread which we break is it not communion In the BODY of Christ? 1Cor. 10,16-17.
At passover it wasn´t enough for the lamb to be sacrificed. Partaking in the lamb was what sealed communion.Hence, if Jesus is the true passover lamb sacrificed on calvary, it wouldn´t be surprised to find a communion meal
accompanying the sacrifice on the cross. 1Cor5,7-8
the truth of the eucharist:its is the body blood soul and divinity of jesus christ our lord and saviour.john 6:55.if it wasnt true why would he let his followers walk away.he was a loving divine man.he wouldve explained it to them and stopped them.but they understood what he said,they just couldnt comprehend it.so he let them go.the eucharist after the transustansiation doesnt just change back into bread and wine.it stays.its jesus!oh how i love him,my lord!
Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus is not a liar: In Mt 26:29 after Jesus had said, "this is my blood" and prayed, he still referred to the contents as, "fruit of the vine". If transubstantiation of the juice into blood had occurred, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches say it was at this time, then Jesus would never have referred to it as "fruit of the vine' but rather "blood". This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" ...
@kiwichristian2009 ...This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" he LITERALLY gave them bread and juice. In like manner, Paul also refers to the elements of the Lord's Supper as "eat this bread and drink the cup" in 1 Cor 11:26 after they should be transubstantiated.
@kiwichristian Also, we do not argue that they are still physically bread and wine. We believe that. However, we likewise believe that the nature of these elements has been changed. Is a poem a bunch of words, or a beautiful emotion? Is music a bunch of notes, or food for the soul? They are both. There is no mysticism in your eyes, no Spirit in your eyes. You are dead in the words, kiwi. Look for the Spirit!
@kiwichristian2009 Matthew 26:26-28 Try reading it ALL this time."Take and eat;this is MY BODY. "Drink from it, all of you, For this is MY BLOODof the covenant, which will be shed for all for the forgivness of sins". Nowhere does it say," This REPRESENTS my body/blood. But I guess Jesus didn't know what he was sayingeh? You think you know what Jesus would have said? Man, you are pathetic in your reasoning.
@Thunderbolt1000T My friend. Do not do this thing. Catholicism is not biblical in any way, as much as they will try and play word games to prove it is. If you wish an eternal fiery torment in hell, go for it. Personally, i prefer heaven where i know i am going thanks to the Lord Jesus Christ.
I firmly believe that Thou art really and corporally present in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar.I adore Theehere present fromthe very depthsof my
heart,and I worshipThy sacred presence with all possible humility. O my soul, what joy to have Jesus Christ alwayswith us, and to be able to speak to Him,heart to heart, with allconfidenceGrant, O Lord, that I,having adoredThy Divine Majesty here on earthin this wonderful Sacrament, may be able to adore It eternally in heavenAmen
When Christ said to eat His body and drink His blood He was speaking figuratively, not literally. The Book of John also says "unless a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." Does this mean we need to be pushed out of our mother's womb again? Of course not. That would be impossible. Christ offered His body and blood on the cross for us. He wants us to accept His body and blood sacrifice for the atonement of our sins.
He said do not judge wrongly, that is why Jesus gave us His word to study it and go by it and if we have to judge others we do it by the word of God, it's the word that JUDGES!!
The Holy Eucharist is the main part of the cult service - the "high" priest after his hocus pocus prayer has turned substances into GOD. --Catholics fall on their knees & idolize the object which is now GOD & then-- march down the aisle to eat GOD in a cannibalistic ritual
Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself.
Beware of this counterfeit that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught the Christians to commit adultery and fornicate with idols. BEWARE OF THIS MOTHER OF ALL HARLOTS. This will suffer heavy losses.
i have been told that i am biased towards the RCC ... is that indeed? Does that mean that I or no one has has the right to study Gods word and find out the truth for them selves
am i to believe that i must rely on the RCC and its teachings....
Wow everybody .. we cant think for our selves but rely totally on the RCC
sorry to say but the catholics really do have this so wrong..... the teaching that states jesus is present in both flesh and blood is a total disgrace to the good news of the gospel...
Jesus died once and only once - Jesus doesnt have to inact his death every sunday.. eating mass wont save you..
i am not a Catholic, but i love the Eucharist and can tell you that you do not understand what you criticise. do your research, jesus is not being killed in the sacrament. are you intentionally planting disinformation ?
Read joh chapter six verses 53 and 54 . and if you dont agree with the words that jesus proclaimed from his very mouth then you are a fool for not seeing the truth infront of your very eyes. Jesus is present in the Eucharist. He Himself states that he is present in the bread and wine. You say what we do is wrong but how do you know? if u have any questions about the catholic church ask a catholic
How about Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself. and False Doctrine: Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."..."We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role ON BEHALF of the members of Christ...
...False Doctrine: Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."..."We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role ON BEHALF of the members of Christ.
True Doctrine: 1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Mary CANNOT do anything "on behalf" of the members of Christ. Pagan worship
no "eating mass" wont save us, but neither will pride and ego, intolerance and prejudice save you.
Obviously you know nothing of the Holy Catholic Mass, because if you did you wouldn't post such a reckless, ignorant "opinion" that you're trying to pass off as heavy theory....well, maybe in your mind.
And if you aren't Catholic, why gripe? Leave it be.
The mass is VERY biblical. It is the highest form of human prayer, it 's been said. At the Last Supper Jesus left us with His body and His blood. It's a beautiful thing and I'm sorry that you can't see this.
And when you "suggest" to let "Catholics know they are in a false religion" - this is YOUR opinion, NOT fact. RCC HAS indeed withstood the test of time and still stands firm, though NOT perfect because we're humans.
Thanks. I'm sticking with the church Jesus left us.
@Mite0m Rubbish, my friend. Look at your catholic mass. Look at the last supper as described and depicted in the Word of God. There is NO similarities at all!
what's "rubbish" is your opinion. I'm sorry that you've been hoodwinked into believing that the RCC is phoney. Sorry. We pray to the same God. By the way, our Catholic Mass is beautiful celebration of Jesus. We sing praises, and read from the Gospel....what on Earth are you trying to convince yourself of?
@Mite0m Like i said, my friend. Your "mass" bears NO resemblance to the last supper laid down in the Word of God. All the rcc doctrines were introduced into the rcc at different times in history by MAN.
no, by councils...and I still respectfully, polietly say that you do not know what you are referring to. Because your conclusion is invalid, and sloppy, and frankly, flat out wrong.
its funny how people have been dupted to follow a relgious system which doesnt teach the truth of the bible.. people would rather kneel down to a waffer and believe it is God... following tradtions of man and ceremonies wont get you into heaven nor bring salvation...
hope you are aware of this fact... Jesus came to set us free from religious ceremonies..
@loudmouthspeaker ...blasphemy....that a grevious sin....anything but blaspemy..u r triying to challenge wat is written in the bible and prophesied by the prophets???..woe unto u..n ua kind
"Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? [Y]e made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites."
perhaps your soul winning may be better on a page for atheists or agnsotics? I'm not sure why other christians pick misunderstandments and prejudices against the RCC? We worship the same God. No reason to start animosity among fellow christians. Take your talents to another page, it may serve better and more useful.
Misunderstandings? I have catholic church quotes and biblical quotes to back up everything i say. You do NOT worship the same god. You call god a liar.
@TheSeaboat eg: Father A. Pereira says: "It is quite certain that Popes have never approved or rejected this title 'Lord God the Pope,' for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome in 1580 by Gregory XIII."
"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty"
@TheSeaboat The mass is a re-sacrificing of Christ. "And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner," (CCC, 1367). What does the Catechism mean here?
Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself.
@TheSeaboat Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy! Our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us; and after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary. Doesnt this sound like worship?
@loudmouthspeaker Oh, they follow the bible, but only what the catholic church says about it. I have shown numerous facts where the rcc call God a liar and disregard His word in favor of their own. We must pray for them.
Here is the witchcraft in the hands of a "priest". Whenever he perform this trick he is "creating" the body of Christ, you will go to a HOAX! This is the lawless sitting in the temple! Anti-Christ:s temple!
Here is the witchcraft in the hands of a "priest". Whenever he perform this trick he is "creating" the body of Christ, you will go to a HOAX! This is the lawless sitting in the temple! Anti-Christ:s temple!
This Priest is acting Persona Christi in the person of christ. Doing what Christ did with his authority by the power of the Holy Spirit! Yes, Jesus says Blessed is he who have not seen and believe. No on the comment regarding Anti-Christ would imply he is against Christ when in fact we love Jesus and we love our neighbor. We pray for our enemies. Even you!
In this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered Himself once on the altar of the cross is offered in an unbloody manner repeatedly." I added the word "repeatedly" for clarification.
"The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice. The victim is one and the same. The same now offers through the ministry of priests who then offered Himself on the cross only the manner of offering is different.
@chookna Wow! Unbeleivable that the rcc call God a liar by the mass!
Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself.
The finality of this is so clear. He came, He made one sacrifice which perfected forever them that are sanctified. He came, He made one offering for all, never to be repeated, in contrast to priests repeating over and over and over sacrifices which can never take away sin. There's only one sacrifice made one time by one person that can take away sin. It is that sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ
I quote the Catholic Catechism. Quote: "The Mass is the source of and summit of the Christian life." That it is say it is the origin of the Christian life and it is the high point. It was Cardinal Ratzinger now calling himself Pope Benedict, who said, and I quote him,
"The Mass is the sum and substance of our faith." This is not peripheral, this is not on the edge, this is not one among many, this is the heart and soul of the system, even though there are seven sacraments by their definition, this is the main sacrament.
But at the very outset, the Mass is a deception because, as I said, there are no more sacrifices, there are no more altars. There is no more temple in which God dwells, no more tabernacle and there is no more priesthood.
Yes you are right, but as I had replied to dblaze08: Jesus smashed the entire sacrificial system of the Old Testament. It seems to me that you guys are trying to force words into my mouth, a typical tactic I am quite familiar with
chookna: I seriously was not trying to employ any "tactics". I only brought up authentic reference sources (i.e. Bible & catechism) instead of just handing out my personal opinion.
Catholics are not bound to just the new testament, there is also tradition which is prior and the source of scripture. Before Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote gospel accounts everything was passed on orally an was safeguarded by the bishops that succeeded the apostles. So if you want to know whether or no the early church believed in the real presence, you have to address both scripture AND tradition, which is documented in early church writings.
For example, Ignatius of Antioch (50 AD to 98-117 AD) wrote,
They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes. (Epistle to the Smyrnaeans)
No more priesthood? Is that why St. Peter said "by yourselves built into a spiritual house, to be a HOLY PRIESTHOOD...." (1 Peter 2:5). Christ was the high priest, but calls us to share in his priesthood. After all, doesn't 'Christian' literally mean 'Little Christ', meaning we are to share in his mission and ministry, part of which was priesthood.....
Jesus smashed the entire sacrificial system of the Old Testament. There are no more priests as a special order to offer sacrifices. And you are right.
No, he perfected the sacrificial system it by sacrificing something that could actually atone for the sins of the whole world. And at mass, we participate in that same sacrifice. Yes, the apostles clearly established elders wherever they went and LAYED HANDS ON THEM. The letter to the Hebrews also clearly states that a Priest is to be charged with the duty of administering the sacrament.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.- Matthew 5:17-19
@dblazek08. Very good point. According to the Word of God, we are all priests and we are all saints. What i think your friend is saying is there is no need for individual priests to carry out any sacrifices/mumbo-jumbo like the catholic priests do.
@kiwichristian2009 There is a clear and distinct difference in scripture about the universal priesthood and the ministerial priesthood that gave birth to Catholic priests.
Receiving the Eucharist, Jesus, is such a privilege. I will pray for everyone that watches this video, that they want to get closer to Jesus.
BlissfulMother 1 month ago
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I follow The Lord Jesus Christ, not the pope...
Jesus said ,"Do this in MEMORY of me". Jesus' final words were"IT IS FINISHED". He died for us ONCE,not every sunday in a catholic ritual.
dolcevita4me 2 months ago
God is offended by receiving Him on "dirty" hands(ONLY priest can touch Him) in the Holy Eucharist!
Only accepted by Heaven form of receiving living Heart of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist of the Catholic Church is into our mouth and on our both knees!
God bless you and be brave
JezusSlave 9 months ago
@JezusSlave If the Church says it is ok, then it is ok. Although, I would much rather receieve on the tounge kneeling by the celebrant (priest).
assasincomedy 6 months ago
@assasincomedy
recently Pope Benedict XVI has published a document that the BEST form of receiving the Eucharist is into mouth and on the knees!!!
Informations hidden by traitors in the CHURCH???
JezusSlave 6 months ago
I humbly adore You, my Lord and my God!
@patcaddagh. Never forget how much God loves you. I,ll pray for you.
DolcevoltoPM 10 months ago
Now and forever. Amen.
TheWiscmom 1 year ago
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"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God....." Exodus 20.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
i am now a gay man and hate all rome stands for and the way it destroyed my life
patcaddagh 1 year ago
@patcaddagh Get over yourself.
tjttzcspplt 1 year ago
@patcaddagh You must have had a very bad experience.What could have happened ,my friend that would cause you to not believe in God while so much evidence exist.I was very close to being an athiest and had a very moving,Godly experience.Please tell your story..Thanks
airplanman 9 months ago
i was a priest i no longer believe in this or a god
patcaddagh 1 year ago
@patcaddagh You dont even have to pray right now.
You may have been a priest, what ever happened has happened, but dont lose faith in yourself and what is around you. You came upon this video for a reason, YOU decided to... their is something inside you you're not wanting to let go; and I'm glad it hasn't. If this is your choice it is your choice, no one should force it on to you.
Don't ever lose faith Patcad, don't ever lose you faith. Remember this.
Take care.
kenmoniana 9 months ago
This is rock solid Christianity that doesn't change! This is the big leagues! Blessed be God forever.
abanyai123 1 year ago 2
Blessed be Jesus Christ in the Most Blessed and Holy Sacrament of the Altar and in the hearts of His faithful people. This is the most glorious and wonderful action of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass as time and Eternity are transfixed and Jesus Christ Himself is fully present as the Host becomes His body and the wine becomes His Most Precious Blood. The Sanctus bells alert us to this great Eucharistic Mystery during the Consecration in the Canon of the Mass.
MrPeterTowle 1 year ago
Thank you Dear Jesus for being our "Prisoner of Love".
rosarykat 1 year ago
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THIS IS PROOF THAT ONLY CATHOLIC CHURCH IS TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST AND HIS HOLY SACRAMENTS!!!
youtube. com/ watch?v =jqsRDD6kXWY
While they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body." Then he took the cup, gave thanks and offered it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Matthew 26:26-28
God bless you
JezusSlave 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
By the way you have not answered my quesiton,
I repeat it:
why Jesus changed the name of Simon to Petros???????? or to (peeble) (like you said)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
Jesus himself said, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me” (John 14:6). In Matt. 16:13-20, Jesus asked his disciples a very important question, “Who do you say that I am?” Jesus is asking the key question of the Bible: he is asking us to correctly identify him. This is the question that inspects the very foundation of the Christian faith. If we do not now who the real Jesus is, then we can not be saved. ..
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 ...We can not get to the true Heaven with a false Jesus. The real Jesus of the Bible is the true foundation (rock) of the Christian faith. He is the rock of salvation. Even Peter claimed that Jesus is the rock, the cornerstone that the builders rejected (Acts 4:10 & 1 Peter 2:1-6). Paul says, “For no man can lay a foundation other than the one which is laid, which is Jesus Christ... ‘the rock was Christ.’”(1 Cor. 3:11 &10:4).
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
No mention is made of Peter ever being in Rome at ANY time in the 27 documents of the oldest existing record of the Christian Faith. The Apostle Paul wrote an Epistle to the church at Rome, named approximately SIXTEEN (16) people, by name, and never mentioned Peter. That was NO oversight on his part. Peter was never there! Peter's tomb was also discovered outside *Jerusalem*; there is historical documentation to verify this factor...
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 ...Even if that were not the case, Paul's neglect at mentioning Peter, in Romans 16, is INEXCUSABLE, if Peter were Head of the Church. There is no evidence for the Papacy from Peter himself.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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St. Philomena was made a saint by leo XII and pope gregory XVI blessed one of her images. Rome later admitted that she NEVER EXISTED and in 1961 struck her off the list of saints!
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Jesus never established a single bishop over a multiplicity of others; rather,He established an impartial order of service.However, men departed from the original pattern of the Bible in search of power, honor, and deification.The first indication of this desertion was when the distinction between the words,bishops, elders, and pastors was made-titles that are used interchangeably in the Bible (e.g.,Acts 20:17,28;Titus 1:5,7;1 Pet5:1-2; etc.)—thereby giving preeminence to the position of bishop
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Every time there is a change of name in the Bible, there is a mission i.e. Abram to Abraham, Sara to Saraih, Jacob to Israel , Simon to Petros
Mt, 16,18
For THOU (referring to Peter) art PETROS
another translation:
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build MY church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
The catholic church was built by Jesus, the rest by men since the reformation of Luther around 1500
greetings :)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus I wish catholics would learn to think for themselves. You complete ignore the conversation that puts that sentance into context. "you are petros ( a small pebble) and upon this petra ( a massive rock) I shall build My church....." Christ built His church upon Himself, upon the faith Peter had and upon our faith in Christ. Not Peter the person.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
Oh yes Kiwichirstian.... I know perfectly well what you : all.--known protestant think about us "ignorant catholics"
voila! and you are the one who is supposed to teach "us" about the Bible
you totally forgot the main point in the Word of God: love and humility,
but of course you prefer to ignore that ....
You maybe know the whole Bible by memory
but acting according is something totally different huh??
bravo!!! you are a protestant !
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Define "protestant", please? Also, why is there no evidence for the Papacy from Peter himself.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 I will gladly answer your question
Protestant... the ones who believed in Luther after the reformation around 1500
the people who created their own religion and protested against the Catholic church
which is your denomination,,,, I wonder? or are you ashamed to say that your church was built by a man ??
I am still waiting for an answer but I guess you dont know what to say...
I repeat:
why the change of name???
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Based on your definition of "protestant", then yay, i am not a protestant. Thank you for clarifying it as i get different answers from different catholics, so it's kind of hard to know which is the true meaning. I am proud to be a Bible Believing Christian. You are semi-right, because i am not infallible, i do NOT know all the answers and i am happy to admit that. Peter was certainly charged to preaching the gospel to the gentiles.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 sorry to say this to you but you are a protestant because you have trusted luther in order to interpret the Bible for you, i.e. sola fide and blah blah
Also I am proud to be a Bible believing but no dare to built my own church just because I do not understand some of the teachings the catholic faith claims, I trust Jesus words : The power of hades will not prevail against it...
Luther trusted more in his own private interpretation
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus I'm sorry, my friend, you are wrong. I have never studied luther and i read the Bible myself and believe what it says. Answer me this, please. Can you describe exactly HOW i trust a person i have never studied or read of when i read the Bible myself? You do NOT believe the Bible because the Bible condemns most catholic practises.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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@kiwichristian2009 I do believe the Bible and it says clearly :
2, Pe 1, 20
knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
And of course I trust the catholic church because I trust Jesus words in the Bible
I have answered your objections 1 by 1 and you refuse to believe your Bible
thats up to you!!!
you are the one who have not answered my questions ...
why Jesus changed the name of Simon to Petros???????? or to (peeble) (like you said)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 John 21,15-17
Jesus said to him( Peter) Feed my lambs,.... Tend my sheep, ... Feed my sheep
and as much as I read I dont see your interpretation; Feed my GENTILES lambs..
as usual this is the protestants point of view
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus One question, why did Peter never describe himself as a leader or pope-like person? Why is there no evidence for the Papacy from Peter himself?
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Hello friend. The true church of Jesus Christ is a relationship, not a membership. It isn’t any particular protestant denomination or Roman catholic. It doesn't have a roof or an address. We are the Body of Christ, past, present and future from all around the world who have accepted Christ’s work on the cross for our sins 2000 years ago, once and for all. Our names have been written in the Book of Life from the beginning. 1 cross + 3 nails = 4 given.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
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@johnthreesixteen316 Hello John , I have a personal relationship with Jesus my Lord and Saviour....
and, of course we are the body of Christ but if you have read the old testament, God wanted Solomon built a temple where everybody can gather together for offering sacrifices and in the new testament Jesus gave us his body and blood ... and said to Peter: Matthew 16, 18
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
;)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@johnthreesixteen316 Hello John I have a personal relationship with Jesus my Lord and Saviour
of course we are the body of Christ but if you have read the old testament, God wanted Solomon built a temple where everybody can gather together for offering sacrifices and in the new testament Jesus gave us his body and blood ... and said to Peter: Matthew 16, 18
And I tell you that you are Peter and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
;)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus "you totally forgot the main point in the Word of God: love and humility," I love you. I love all catholics, muslims, mormons, etc. SO does God. Have i ever personally attacked you as a person? Or am i questioning your beliefs that just maybe could be wrong? Think about it. Humility? If you knew my background, you would know i was and still am a dirty, filthy, disgusting sinner. I sin every day. I would be in hell tight now if God gave me what i deserve.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus "You maybe know the whole Bible by memory", Wow, so many assumptions, my friend. I am terrible at memory verses, i have to look most things up in the Word of God. Do i act according to the commands of God? No, i don't.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
"you are petros ( a small pebble) and upon this petra, myself ( a massive rock) I shall build My church...."
Honestly this is protestant interpretation
But I do prefer to believe the Bible than you
You are Petros (referring to PETER) and upon this Petra I will build MY church
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
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@kiwichristian2009 by the way you have not answered my question
I repeat it
why the change of name????
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Your words:
" I wish catholics would learn to think for themselves"
so I assume: Am I a robot or bot who can not think by myself?
maybe I have stolen some elses mind to be able to write here
I have found this attitude so many times, it is so typical, when a person agrees with protestants beliefs, then it is smart, when "we" catholics do not agree with all of you, so we are so "ignorant" and "can not think"
I apologyse though my english is bad, I am not a native speaker
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Hi, my friend. what i mean is that catholics tend to quote a lot from what their church has told them to say. Like standard, automatic responses, rather than replying from their hearts in their own words. I am not saying i don't quote. I do it all the time! But i am not in an international organised institution, or indeed in a religion at all, but a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. Your English is fine, by the way, i am one of only two white people in my church. hehe.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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@kiwichristian2009 I do believe the Bible and it says clearly :
2, Pe 1, 20
knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
And of course I trust the catholic church because I trust Jesus words in the Bible
I have answered your objections 1 by 1 and you refuse to believe your Bible
thats up to you!!!
you are the one who have not answered my questions ...
why Jesus changed the name of Simon to Petros???????? or to (peeble) (like you said)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
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@kiwichristian2009 I do believe the Bible and it says clearly :
2, Pe 1, 20
knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
And of course I trust the catholic church because I trust Jesus words in the Bible
I have answered your objections 1 by 1 and you refuse to believe your Bible
thats up to you!!!
you are the one who have not answered my questions ...
why Jesus changed the name of Simon to Petros???????? or to (peeble) (like you said)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 I do believe the Bible and it says clearly :
2, Pe 1, 20
knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation,
And of course I trust the catholic church because I trust Jesus words in the Bible
I have answered your objections 1 by 1 and you refuse to believe your Bible
thats up to you!!!
you are the one who have not answered my questions ...
why Jesus changed the name of Simon to Petros???????? or to (peeble) (like you said)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Do you trust and believe your popes?
And, i have answered your question and will not answer it again.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
NO you did not, scroll down please and check your answers
anyway I knew you would not answer it.
If you dont answer mines
why do I have to answer yours?
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus and all other Catholics: Ignore kiwi. He/she comes to all these beautiful Catholic videos merely to stir up trouble and argument. "All of you should be... humble. Do not return evil for evil or insult for insult. Return a blessing instead" I Peter 3:8-9; "Resist him, solid in your faith." I Peter 5:9; He/she simply cannot refute I Thessalonians 5:9, the key word being "acquiring". Bless kiwi and do not curse him/her, pray for kiwi, nothing else. +JMJ+
rosarykat 1 year ago
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@kiwichristian2009 by the way, you have not answered my question,
I repeat it:
why the change of name?
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Christ asks Simon who He was and he replies "you are the missiah the Christ" and Christ responds by saying well done Simon for this truth did not to you from men but from God. You will be called (in Greek) petros (a pebble) and on this Petra (rock) I will build my church. what Christ was saying is that He is the foundation, He is the corner stone to the Church...
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
The Bible doesn´t say:
You will be called a pebble and on Me am Chirst, huge rock I will build my church...does it?
doesnt make any sense AT ALL
just answer: why the change of name?
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus ...He is also the stone that the builders reject as useless that turned out to be the most important of all and nobody can lay any other. "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid,which is Jesus Christ."1 Corinthians 3:11. "This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner." Acts 4:11. "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." 1Cor10:4
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Jesus is the Good Sheperd John 10,11
and he named Peter sheperd afer His resurrection John 21, 15-17 : Feed my lambs, Tend my sheep, feed my sheep
Jesus is indeed the stone and he named Peter the "little peeble" (as you said) in order to feed the sheep
We have also an example of this in the old testament, God is the King of Israel but also David is in subordinate way...
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Hello friend. If you look at all of the other Petra references in the New Testament you will see that they refer to Christ Himself everytime. For thou art petros and upon this petra is no different. It is refering to Christ.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
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@johnthreesixteen316 Your words " I wish catholics would learn to think for themselves"
so I assume; Am I a robot or bot or someone who can not think by myself???
maybe I have stolen someone elses mind to be able to write here.
Dont worry I have found this typical attitude from all the bible christians and anyone who agrees with them are so smart, while we, catholics are so "ignorant" and "can not think"
I apologyse though my english is bad am not a native speaker.
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
Through infant baptism, keeping sacraments, church membership, going to mass, praying to Mary, and confession (just to mention a few), the Catholic church has developed a system of salvation through WORKS. God's word says that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ, not through works". "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast." (Eph. 2:8-9)
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 James 2,14-18
What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds."
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless.
Please show all what Bible has to say about faith. otherwise is partial
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus My friend. Good works are a RESULT of salvation, not a MEANS of it. Again i quote you Eph. 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that NOTof yourselves: it is the gift of God: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast."
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Galations 2:16Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
Mt, 7,21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who DOES the will of my Father who is in heaven."
Mt 25,34-36 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink I was a stranger and you invited Me in naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; .
WORKS..
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Where do I get my membership? I wonder....
about confession:
Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven Mt. 18,18
Receive the Holy Spirit, If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven, if yu retain the sins of any, they are retained. Jn20, 22-23
He who hears you, hears me and he who rejects you, rejects me and he who rejects me rejects Him who sent Me Lk. 10,16
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Mark2:5-11"Who can forgive sins but God only?". Jn20:23's meanins is, not that man can fogive sins, because only God can, but that they were to declare on what terms and conditions, to what characters, and to what attitude of mind, God would forgive sins. Show me where the apostles ever heard a confession?
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 where???
Acts 19,18
And many that believed came, and CONFESSED, and showed their deeds.
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
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so.... Jesus is in.. stuff? and not at the right hand of God? i have a strong feeling that Jesus taught spirituality and not religious voodoo. John 6:63/65 "The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are Spirit and they are life" "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled him."... so if the flesh counts for nothing... maybe what we eat and what we DO means nothing.. but faith in Jesus means everything... maybe..
crunkpunk777 1 year ago 2
@crunkpunk777 You got it. 1 Corinthians 10:3,4 "All ate the same SPIRITUAL food, and all drank the same SPIRITUAL drink. For they drank of that SPIRITUAL Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ." It doesn't get much easier to understand than that.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
When Christ said to eat His body and drink His blood He was speaking figuratively, not literally. The Book of John also says "unless a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." Does this mean we need to be pushed out of our mother's womb again? Of course not. That would be impossible. Christ offered His body and blood on the cross for us. He wants us to accept His body and blood sacrifice for the atonement of our sins.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 you dont believe that He is God and He can do whatever He wants, even to give us His flesh and blood,
many jews abandoned Him because of the words, they took them literally, Jesus could have said... hey dont go, I didnt mean it, I say it figuratively... what kind a master one who doesnt explain well... even to His apostles ..He said... Do you also wish to go away?
all the protestants went away and didnt believe His words
we, catholics do
God bless :)
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus I beleive God would not contradict or do something that is contrary to what He has said in His Word. In John chapter 6 Christ is speaking about eating His flesh. Then He goes on to explain what He meant....."63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life." He is clearly speaking figuratively when he says to 'eat His body and drink His blood'.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 but Jesus was talking about OUR flesh
He didnt say:
MY flesh profiteth nothing uh?
And the ones who find this impossible are like muslims, I think, they simple dont believe God can come to us with an actual human body and dying on a cross
They can not acept GOD can do this
It´s the same with you all protestants, your mind can´t acept the fact God has given us His blood and Flesh
God can do this because He is indeed God
The Bible is 100% clear
up to you to believe it
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
@gabbydeJesus Ratranmus wrote: "The bread and wine are the body and blood of Christ in a FIGURATIVE sense" (De corpore et sanguine Christi).Bread and wine are offered, being the FIGURE of the flesh and blood of Jesus Christ. They who participate in this visible bread eat, SPIRITUALLY, the flesh of the Lord. (Macarius, Homily xxvii.) Macarius of Egypt (ca. 300-391).
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 I prefer to believe in Bible´s words:
The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a communion in the BLOOD of Christ?The bread which we break is it not communion In the BODY of Christ? 1Cor. 10,16-17.
At passover it wasn´t enough for the lamb to be sacrificed. Partaking in the lamb was what sealed communion.Hence, if Jesus is the true passover lamb sacrificed on calvary, it wouldn´t be surprised to find a communion meal
accompanying the sacrifice on the cross. 1Cor5,7-8
gabbydeJesus 1 year ago
the truth of the eucharist:its is the body blood soul and divinity of jesus christ our lord and saviour.john 6:55.if it wasnt true why would he let his followers walk away.he was a loving divine man.he wouldve explained it to them and stopped them.but they understood what he said,they just couldnt comprehend it.so he let them go.the eucharist after the transustansiation doesnt just change back into bread and wine.it stays.its jesus!oh how i love him,my lord!
broncogirl101 1 year ago
FACTS about the Eucharist Rome does NOT want you to see... remnantofgod(DOT)org/transubstantiation(DOT)htm
NicholasPOGM 1 year ago
FACTS about the Eucharist Rome does NOT wnat you to see... remnantofgod(DOT)org/transubstantiation(DOT)htm
NicholasPOGM 1 year ago
Transubstantiation is a false doctrine because Jesus is not a liar: In Mt 26:29 after Jesus had said, "this is my blood" and prayed, he still referred to the contents as, "fruit of the vine". If transubstantiation of the juice into blood had occurred, as both Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches say it was at this time, then Jesus would never have referred to it as "fruit of the vine' but rather "blood". This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" ...
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 ...This proves that when Jesus said "take eat & drink" he LITERALLY gave them bread and juice. In like manner, Paul also refers to the elements of the Lord's Supper as "eat this bread and drink the cup" in 1 Cor 11:26 after they should be transubstantiated.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian Also, we do not argue that they are still physically bread and wine. We believe that. However, we likewise believe that the nature of these elements has been changed. Is a poem a bunch of words, or a beautiful emotion? Is music a bunch of notes, or food for the soul? They are both. There is no mysticism in your eyes, no Spirit in your eyes. You are dead in the words, kiwi. Look for the Spirit!
planetar4564 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 yea,but english bibles were translated and the translations lost their true meaning.alot of translations are like that.
broncogirl101 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 Matthew 26:26-28 Try reading it ALL this time."Take and eat;this is MY BODY. "Drink from it, all of you, For this is MY BLOODof the covenant, which will be shed for all for the forgivness of sins". Nowhere does it say," This REPRESENTS my body/blood. But I guess Jesus didn't know what he was sayingeh? You think you know what Jesus would have said? Man, you are pathetic in your reasoning.
kingsmen711 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 didn't Jesus also say that He is the Vine???? and we are the branches?
6MemoryOfForever9 1 year ago
@6MemoryOfForever9 Yes, He did say that.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 translations lose meaning
broncogirl101 1 year ago
God bless the Catholic faith! :D
RockyBalboa211 1 year ago 22
@Thunderbolt1000T My friend. Do not do this thing. Catholicism is not biblical in any way, as much as they will try and play word games to prove it is. If you wish an eternal fiery torment in hell, go for it. Personally, i prefer heaven where i know i am going thanks to the Lord Jesus Christ.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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O my God,
I firmly believe that Thou art really and corporally present in the Blessed Sacrament of the altar.I adore Theehere present fromthe very depthsof my
heart,and I worshipThy sacred presence with all possible humility. O my soul, what joy to have Jesus Christ alwayswith us, and to be able to speak to Him,heart to heart, with allconfidenceGrant, O Lord, that I,having adoredThy Divine Majesty here on earthin this wonderful Sacrament, may be able to adore It eternally in heavenAmen
koledy123 1 year ago
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When Christ said to eat His body and drink His blood He was speaking figuratively, not literally. The Book of John also says "unless a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God." Does this mean we need to be pushed out of our mother's womb again? Of course not. That would be impossible. Christ offered His body and blood on the cross for us. He wants us to accept His body and blood sacrifice for the atonement of our sins.
johnthreesixteen316 1 year ago
My God is a spirit and I worship Him in the spirit and truth, God does not live in temples made by human hands!!!
John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.
Acts 7:48 However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:
Acts 17:24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands.
TheJesusisLORDamen 1 year ago 2
What did the Lord Jesus Christ said about the judgments?
I ask you to stop and I will pray for you with all my heart.
nikkybby 1 year ago
He said do not judge wrongly, that is why Jesus gave us His word to study it and go by it and if we have to judge others we do it by the word of God, it's the word that JUDGES!!
TheJesusisLORDamen 1 year ago
@TheJesusisLORDamen Amen, my brother in Christ!
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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The Holy Eucharist is the main part of the cult service - the "high" priest after his hocus pocus prayer has turned substances into GOD. --Catholics fall on their knees & idolize the object which is now GOD & then-- march down the aisle to eat GOD in a cannibalistic ritual
2cOthers 1 year ago
Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Read Revelation chapter 17 with discernment.
OFxJeremy 2 years ago
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Beware of this counterfeit that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught the Christians to commit adultery and fornicate with idols. BEWARE OF THIS MOTHER OF ALL HARLOTS. This will suffer heavy losses.
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conceil8 2 years ago
@conceil8 Amen! the rcc is the whore of babylon. It is unbiblical and antichrist.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
When we receive Holy Communion we receive Jesus himself, thus we should be on our Knees receiving on our tounge!
dacatholicbandorgan 2 years ago 8
Read the gospel of John 6:48-68, and see how Jesus explains His real presence in the Eucharist.
ComeHomeCatholics 2 years ago
i have been told that i am biased towards the RCC ... is that indeed? Does that mean that I or no one has has the right to study Gods word and find out the truth for them selves
am i to believe that i must rely on the RCC and its teachings....
Wow everybody .. we cant think for our selves but rely totally on the RCC
loudmouthspeaker 2 years ago
sorry to say but the catholics really do have this so wrong..... the teaching that states jesus is present in both flesh and blood is a total disgrace to the good news of the gospel...
Jesus died once and only once - Jesus doesnt have to inact his death every sunday.. eating mass wont save you..
loudmouthspeaker 2 years ago
i am not a Catholic, but i love the Eucharist and can tell you that you do not understand what you criticise. do your research, jesus is not being killed in the sacrament. are you intentionally planting disinformation ?
stybarrow 2 years ago 2
Read joh chapter six verses 53 and 54 . and if you dont agree with the words that jesus proclaimed from his very mouth then you are a fool for not seeing the truth infront of your very eyes. Jesus is present in the Eucharist. He Himself states that he is present in the bread and wine. You say what we do is wrong but how do you know? if u have any questions about the catholic church ask a catholic
dude175 2 years ago 2
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How about Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself. and False Doctrine: Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."..."We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role ON BEHALF of the members of Christ...
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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...False Doctrine: Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix."..."We believe that the Holy Mother of God, the new Eve, Mother of the Church, continues in heaven to exercise her maternal role ON BEHALF of the members of Christ.
True Doctrine: 1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
Mary CANNOT do anything "on behalf" of the members of Christ. Pagan worship
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@dude175 Is this the same truth that states FOR ALL HAVE SINNED, yet the rcc believes mary to be sinless? Are you calling God a liar?
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
no "eating mass" wont save us, but neither will pride and ego, intolerance and prejudice save you.
Obviously you know nothing of the Holy Catholic Mass, because if you did you wouldn't post such a reckless, ignorant "opinion" that you're trying to pass off as heavy theory....well, maybe in your mind.
And if you aren't Catholic, why gripe? Leave it be.
Peace.
Mite0m 2 years ago
"why gripe?" to let catholics know that they are in a false religious cult. The catholic church and the pope are unbiblical and antichrist.
I challenge you to show me the first recording instance of the mass AS CURRENTLY PRACTICED BY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH?
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
The mass is VERY biblical. It is the highest form of human prayer, it 's been said. At the Last Supper Jesus left us with His body and His blood. It's a beautiful thing and I'm sorry that you can't see this.
And when you "suggest" to let "Catholics know they are in a false religion" - this is YOUR opinion, NOT fact. RCC HAS indeed withstood the test of time and still stands firm, though NOT perfect because we're humans.
Thanks. I'm sticking with the church Jesus left us.
Mite0m 1 year ago
@Mite0m Rubbish, my friend. Look at your catholic mass. Look at the last supper as described and depicted in the Word of God. There is NO similarities at all!
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
what's "rubbish" is your opinion. I'm sorry that you've been hoodwinked into believing that the RCC is phoney. Sorry. We pray to the same God. By the way, our Catholic Mass is beautiful celebration of Jesus. We sing praises, and read from the Gospel....what on Earth are you trying to convince yourself of?
Mite0m 1 year ago
@Mite0m Like i said, my friend. Your "mass" bears NO resemblance to the last supper laid down in the Word of God. All the rcc doctrines were introduced into the rcc at different times in history by MAN.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
no, by councils...and I still respectfully, polietly say that you do not know what you are referring to. Because your conclusion is invalid, and sloppy, and frankly, flat out wrong.
Mite0m 1 year ago
@Mite0m Ok, i will change "MAN" into "MEN". Pick a doctrine or practice you practice in your church and i will show you it is unbiblical.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
its funny how people have been dupted to follow a relgious system which doesnt teach the truth of the bible.. people would rather kneel down to a waffer and believe it is God... following tradtions of man and ceremonies wont get you into heaven nor bring salvation...
hope you are aware of this fact... Jesus came to set us free from religious ceremonies..
loudmouthspeaker 2 years ago
Your are correct when you say that these are traditions of man. True Man and True God -Jesus Christ.
ymark1hotmail 2 years ago
you should just come out and proclaim yourself and biased and hostile to the Church. quit posing as a level analysis.
stybarrow 2 years ago
What do you think Jesus ment when he said, "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life within you."?
RenokerQ 2 years ago
@loudmouthspeaker ...blasphemy....that a grevious sin....anything but blaspemy..u r triying to challenge wat is written in the bible and prophesied by the prophets???..woe unto u..n ua kind
wamzakriss 2 years ago
@loudmouthspeaker. AMEN, brother!
"Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? [Y]e made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites."
--Jesus Christ Matthew 15:3, 6, 7
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
perhaps your soul winning may be better on a page for atheists or agnsotics? I'm not sure why other christians pick misunderstandments and prejudices against the RCC? We worship the same God. No reason to start animosity among fellow christians. Take your talents to another page, it may serve better and more useful.
Mite0m 1 year ago
Misunderstandings? I have catholic church quotes and biblical quotes to back up everything i say. You do NOT worship the same god. You call god a liar.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009
Not me, but we're all human. As I suggested, your services might fit you better elsewhere.
I am RC and proud of it.
I'm sorry your "quotes" have caused you to be so hostile and bitter towards us.
Mite0m 1 year ago
Towards the church, maybe. towards catholics, no.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
Hello; it would be of help if you could show us these quotes...
TheSeaboat 1 year ago
@TheSeaboat Certainly. Show me something i have said about the rcc that you require proof of and i will gladly provide it, my friend.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@TheSeaboat eg: Father A. Pereira says: "It is quite certain that Popes have never approved or rejected this title 'Lord God the Pope,' for the passage in the gloss referred to appears in the edition of the Canon Law published in Rome in 1580 by Gregory XIII."
"We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty"
Pope Leo XIII Encyclical Letter of June 20, 1894
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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@TheSeaboat The mass is a re-sacrificing of Christ. "And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner," (CCC, 1367). What does the Catechism mean here?
Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@TheSeaboat Hail, holy Queen, Mother of Mercy! Our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping, in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us; and after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary. Doesnt this sound like worship?
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@loudmouthspeaker Oh, they follow the bible, but only what the catholic church says about it. I have shown numerous facts where the rcc call God a liar and disregard His word in favor of their own. We must pray for them.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
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Here is the witchcraft in the hands of a "priest". Whenever he perform this trick he is "creating" the body of Christ, you will go to a HOAX! This is the lawless sitting in the temple! Anti-Christ:s temple!
missionoc 2 years ago
Here is the witchcraft in the hands of a "priest". Whenever he perform this trick he is "creating" the body of Christ, you will go to a HOAX! This is the lawless sitting in the temple! Anti-Christ:s temple!
missionoc 2 years ago
hi saw your comments and by the way spot on... couldnt say it any better
loudmouthspeaker 2 years ago
This Priest is acting Persona Christi in the person of christ. Doing what Christ did with his authority by the power of the Holy Spirit! Yes, Jesus says Blessed is he who have not seen and believe. No on the comment regarding Anti-Christ would imply he is against Christ when in fact we love Jesus and we love our neighbor. We pray for our enemies. Even you!
ymark1hotmail 2 years ago
you and your friends are attempting to smear the Church on this thread. go back to your holes.
stybarrow 2 years ago
@stybarrow "smear the church"? or biblically and lovingly rebuke, reprove and preach the true Word of God?
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@missionoc. Amen!
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@missionoc Amen!
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
In this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered Himself once on the altar of the cross is offered in an unbloody manner repeatedly." I added the word "repeatedly" for clarification.
chookna 2 years ago
Here's one paragraph from the catechism.
"The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice. The victim is one and the same. The same now offers through the ministry of priests who then offered Himself on the cross only the manner of offering is different.
chookna 2 years ago
@chookna Wow! Unbeleivable that the rcc call God a liar by the mass!
Heb.7:27 Who needeth NOT daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did ONCE, when he offered up himself.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
The finality of this is so clear. He came, He made one sacrifice which perfected forever them that are sanctified. He came, He made one offering for all, never to be repeated, in contrast to priests repeating over and over and over sacrifices which can never take away sin. There's only one sacrifice made one time by one person that can take away sin. It is that sacrifice of the Lord Jesus Christ
chookna 2 years ago
Chookna, please get your hands on a catechism book and read what it says about the mass.
pitstopbarney 2 years ago
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chookna 2 years ago
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chookna 2 years ago
I quote the Catholic Catechism. Quote: "The Mass is the source of and summit of the Christian life." That it is say it is the origin of the Christian life and it is the high point. It was Cardinal Ratzinger now calling himself Pope Benedict, who said, and I quote him,
chookna 2 years ago
"The Mass is the sum and substance of our faith." This is not peripheral, this is not on the edge, this is not one among many, this is the heart and soul of the system, even though there are seven sacraments by their definition, this is the main sacrament.
chookna 2 years ago
But at the very outset, the Mass is a deception because, as I said, there are no more sacrifices, there are no more altars. There is no more temple in which God dwells, no more tabernacle and there is no more priesthood.
chookna 2 years ago
Yes, there is a priesthood-The Melchezedek priesthood of which Jesus Christ is the high priest (Hebrews).
pitstopbarney 2 years ago
Yes you are right, but as I had replied to dblaze08: Jesus smashed the entire sacrificial system of the Old Testament. It seems to me that you guys are trying to force words into my mouth, a typical tactic I am quite familiar with
chookna 2 years ago
chookna: I seriously was not trying to employ any "tactics". I only brought up authentic reference sources (i.e. Bible & catechism) instead of just handing out my personal opinion.
pitstopbarney 2 years ago
Well instead of flogging a dead horse by refering to the CCC, give me scripture to attempt to debunk what I have said.
chookna 2 years ago
I'm not Sola Scripture, but the Catechism quote I gave you in reference to what Catholics believes begins with Scripture. "Do this in memory of me".
That is Scripture.
pitstopbarney 2 years ago
Catholics are not bound to just the new testament, there is also tradition which is prior and the source of scripture. Before Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote gospel accounts everything was passed on orally an was safeguarded by the bishops that succeeded the apostles. So if you want to know whether or no the early church believed in the real presence, you have to address both scripture AND tradition, which is documented in early church writings.
blitzel3 2 years ago
For example, Ignatius of Antioch (50 AD to 98-117 AD) wrote,
They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again. Those, therefore, who speak against this gift of God, incur death in the midst of their disputes. (Epistle to the Smyrnaeans)
blitzel3 2 years ago
Even the divinity of Christ, which ignorant tools try to claim was "made up" in the council of Nicaea was straight forward in early church writings:
"For our God, Jesus Christ, now that He is with the Father, is all the more revealed [in His glory]. (Ignatius of Antioch - Epistle to the Romans)
blitzel3 2 years ago
No more priesthood? Is that why St. Peter said "by yourselves built into a spiritual house, to be a HOLY PRIESTHOOD...." (1 Peter 2:5). Christ was the high priest, but calls us to share in his priesthood. After all, doesn't 'Christian' literally mean 'Little Christ', meaning we are to share in his mission and ministry, part of which was priesthood.....
dblazek08 2 years ago
Jesus smashed the entire sacrificial system of the Old Testament. There are no more priests as a special order to offer sacrifices. And you are right.
chookna 2 years ago
No, he perfected the sacrificial system it by sacrificing something that could actually atone for the sins of the whole world. And at mass, we participate in that same sacrifice. Yes, the apostles clearly established elders wherever they went and LAYED HANDS ON THEM. The letter to the Hebrews also clearly states that a Priest is to be charged with the duty of administering the sacrament.
dblazek08 2 years ago
Give me chapter and verse please. I bet you it is not exactly the way you just worded it
chookna 2 years ago
laying on of hands: Acts 13:3
Its one of many times. I like this one because of the verse 2.
I actually misquoted the Hebrews one. Didn't have a Bible in front of me at the time. I can't seem to find the verse I was thinking of.
dblazek08 2 years ago
yeah Ok.
chookna 2 years ago
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.- Matthew 5:17-19
nishicooray3 2 years ago
@dblazek08. Very good point. According to the Word of God, we are all priests and we are all saints. What i think your friend is saying is there is no need for individual priests to carry out any sacrifices/mumbo-jumbo like the catholic priests do.
kiwichristian2009 1 year ago
@kiwichristian2009 There is a clear and distinct difference in scripture about the universal priesthood and the ministerial priesthood that gave birth to Catholic priests.
dblazek08 1 year ago
It is therefore a false sacrifice on a false altar in a false temple by a false priest.
chookna 2 years ago
false
pitstopbarney 2 years ago