i love working with this stuff...its a lot easier to work with it when your installing it because its a little more rigged then just a little peace on the ground. plus you can get a hydraulic power expander for bigger pipe like 1.5-2". or a battery powerd one that look like a heavy ass drill and you can do half inch joints in 10-15 seconds
I, for one, am grateful for this video. I kind of figured this system out from lots of web searching but there's nothing like some good ol'visual aids for clarifying the process. Thanks for taking the time.
Wirsbo is way better than normal pex by far. Sharkbites and barbed fittings reduce in size, killing water pressure. Wirsbo fittings don't, they are the same interior size as the pipe and over time the pipe will completely mold itself so there's less friction. Wirsbo is softer and three times as flexible and you don't need half the fittings you would with Pex.
rmg13021, thanks for mentioning Rehau everloc, I wasn't aware of it before. I looked at a YT video showing their fittings & attachment method & it looks like a very secure joint. However, the Wirsbo elastic memory method is proven w/ millions of fittings installed around the world. Since the Wirsbo system works, the everloc system is overkill. Plus, the everloc system adds an extra step & the brass Rehau ring may be more expensive than the plastic Wirsbo ring. Have you used Wirsbo?
I sold Uponor/Wirsbo for years, went to Apple Valley for the training under John Barba. Everloc can't compete with wirsbo and recently lost it's NSF rating to for potable water. Not to mention the everloc is overkill. I have sold thousands of uponor fittings without failure. Everloc is three times as much as a wirsbo fitting so you are right it's overkill... I have sold both and I can say everloc has never had one failure with a properly done joint.
You can't really use a straight run in the shower stall that this piece went in to. I understand that statistically speaking you want to avoid joints at all costs because it just adds a potential point of failure, but this is the hookup to a bath/shower faucet that was being retrofit into a very old and small 2x4 wall.
this guy does not know what the fuk he is doin! wirsbo is quite flekable, you should plumb your home on a home run system, just straight runs, no fittings, till you get to your fixture. it's a little more money but you will get what you pay for...... from plumber
pinggg10 - huh? You can't use Wirsbo without fittings. duh. You need to make connections at your fixture, and Tees, and elbows in tight spaces... You obviously don't have enough experience with Wirsbo to comment on this video.
Should you run your house in home run is really a matter of fixture count and distance to mechanical. Coming from someone with plenty of experience, home run is a complete waste of pipe and mechanical space when encountering 2+ bathroom homes/multi-level. Ideal plumbing would be conventional via wirsbo t's picking up fixtures on a larger diameter feed and even add recirc on the end of your hot feed if distance is an issue.
You need the battery powered expander tool, takes 5 seconds at most to expand the pex. Just got the Milwaukee expander... great system.
ntie0212 3 months ago
Thanks for the demo. It's like a Meccano.
Antagraber 1 year ago
i love working with this stuff...its a lot easier to work with it when your installing it because its a little more rigged then just a little peace on the ground. plus you can get a hydraulic power expander for bigger pipe like 1.5-2". or a battery powerd one that look like a heavy ass drill and you can do half inch joints in 10-15 seconds
bstjames1611 2 years ago
try sharkbite... 3 seconds!
remoman 1 year ago
sharkbite uses O rings for a seal. Just a temp repair.
jbalt90 1 year ago
@jbalt90 I know but they guarantee it for 25 years and for concealed jobs... so as long as it's installed correctly it can't be that bad?
remoman 1 year ago
Goddamn it'd take you a long time water a house
rockstar6882 2 years ago
Don Caballero, American Don - fantastic album. Thanks for the video. I've been researching PEX and I'm thinking ProPEX is the way to go.
mmmPeanutButter 2 years ago
Nice catch. I probably should include a credit.
I love working with ProPex. I just recently finished a bunch more plumbing and was disappointed how quickly it went.
mrgerbek 2 years ago
megajeff29 is right!!! from plumber
truckk09 2 years ago
Thanks for the demo, always helps to see something done!
dcp2001 2 years ago
I, for one, am grateful for this video. I kind of figured this system out from lots of web searching but there's nothing like some good ol'visual aids for clarifying the process. Thanks for taking the time.
panther105 3 years ago
fuck wirsbo, just use pex with sharkbite fittings.
froggy46 3 years ago
Wirsbo is way better than normal pex by far. Sharkbites and barbed fittings reduce in size, killing water pressure. Wirsbo fittings don't, they are the same interior size as the pipe and over time the pipe will completely mold itself so there's less friction. Wirsbo is softer and three times as flexible and you don't need half the fittings you would with Pex.
megajeff29 3 years ago
That fitting sucks compared to the REHAU Everloc fitting!
rmg13021 3 years ago
rmg13021, thanks for mentioning Rehau everloc, I wasn't aware of it before. I looked at a YT video showing their fittings & attachment method & it looks like a very secure joint. However, the Wirsbo elastic memory method is proven w/ millions of fittings installed around the world. Since the Wirsbo system works, the everloc system is overkill. Plus, the everloc system adds an extra step & the brass Rehau ring may be more expensive than the plastic Wirsbo ring. Have you used Wirsbo?
deezynar 2 years ago
I sold Uponor/Wirsbo for years, went to Apple Valley for the training under John Barba. Everloc can't compete with wirsbo and recently lost it's NSF rating to for potable water. Not to mention the everloc is overkill. I have sold thousands of uponor fittings without failure. Everloc is three times as much as a wirsbo fitting so you are right it's overkill... I have sold both and I can say everloc has never had one failure with a properly done joint.
rmg13021 2 years ago
Hi, rmg13021,
Thanks for contributing your very informed insights!
deezynar 2 years ago
You can't really use a straight run in the shower stall that this piece went in to. I understand that statistically speaking you want to avoid joints at all costs because it just adds a potential point of failure, but this is the hookup to a bath/shower faucet that was being retrofit into a very old and small 2x4 wall.
mrgerbek 3 years ago
this guy does not know what the fuk he is doin! wirsbo is quite flekable, you should plumb your home on a home run system, just straight runs, no fittings, till you get to your fixture. it's a little more money but you will get what you pay for...... from plumber
pinggg10 3 years ago
pinggg10 - huh? You can't use Wirsbo without fittings. duh. You need to make connections at your fixture, and Tees, and elbows in tight spaces... You obviously don't have enough experience with Wirsbo to comment on this video.
yogikuddha 3 years ago
not with a manifold. I've run enough houses without elbows using bend supports
megajeff29 3 years ago
Should you run your house in home run is really a matter of fixture count and distance to mechanical. Coming from someone with plenty of experience, home run is a complete waste of pipe and mechanical space when encountering 2+ bathroom homes/multi-level. Ideal plumbing would be conventional via wirsbo t's picking up fixtures on a larger diameter feed and even add recirc on the end of your hot feed if distance is an issue.
Origstinkyb 2 years ago 2