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Jane Austin and her bunch of aristocrat friends did not reflect how most British people lived during the 18th and 19th Centuries. Dancing influenced from France was popular around all of Europe in the ball rooms and stately homes, it still is today for people who enjoy it (I myself do go ball room dancing).
Georgiahulse 3 years ago
"You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink". Nottingham City do a great job of promoting events in Market Square, and Riverside festival etc, but they consider the attractiveness of each event, and also the availability of performers. Morris dancers are notoriously diffident. If people prefer to fly to Orlando for Disneyworld, or drive to Donington for Monsters of Rock, that is more likely to be the culture they want to see - with TV beamed into living rooms, things have changed.
dnicholsoncole 3 years ago
Nottingham City also do a great job of taxing the hell out of us for it as well. 19 million quid for 26,300 square yards of granite slab. I found a picture the other day of when I graduated, me and my friends were in slab square on a sunny day and the whole place was full of beautiful flowers and hanging baskets, fountains that actually have a definite shape and people sitting on steps.
If you like the new one fair enough, I just feel quite strongly about what the quangos have done.
Georgiahulse 3 years ago
I know it was a few million, but the word (and i have it on YouTube when a bunch of Morris Dancers are dancing to celebrate the new square opening) was that it was about 6 million. If you ever had any paving done in your garden, you would realise how a space the size of market square could get to several million. the new square works wonderfully. Did you go on the Nottingham Eye?
dnicholsoncole 3 years ago
I got the figure £19 million from when East Midlands today were asking folk if they thought it was worth it. Anyway, I don't think Nottingham go to Homebase to get theirs, nor do I think they even used local stone. There's plenty in Nottinghamshire, and especially the Derbyshire Dales, but it had to be imported, only adding to Britain's £4000 million trade deficit.
I did go on the Nottingham Eye, it was about a fiver wasn't it? I enjoyed it - nice views, but nothing no other city couldn't do.
Georgiahulse 3 years ago
No they're not festivities at all. Bear baiting was, but the other's were not. Ther are many traditional English festivities like dancing around the May Pole in May, the Harvest Festival, Morris Dancing, St. George's day events, sword dancing (which was there at the square.) I do respect what you are saying, it is arrogant to ignore all other cultures, but (and this is not exaggeration) most of England's traditional ones have been lost. I'm talking about Celtic and olde English traditionals.
Georgiahulse 3 years ago
I know that Dave, I've lived here all my life! Is what I'm saying is that we don't have traditionally English or British markets on much, or at all. It's alright "moving on", but where are we moving to? I'm talking about little pieces of English heritage and culture that are being lost, and markets are a great way to display it. The last sancing I saw on Slab Square was of some Malaysian dancers, as you referred to.
Georgiahulse 3 years ago
Not all the past can be brought back. Traditional english festivities used to include bear baiting, witch dunking, and public executions. For Dancing, we do have the Ceilidh, but have you ever been to one? For all of history, culture is transported, for example in the Jane Austen movie, the courtly dances they do are probably brought from France. FASHION dictates what people enjoy doing. Also... there are 'Medieval Banquets' still. Have you tried one of these?
dnicholsoncole 3 years ago
We do have markets.. many of them!
if you look on youtube, there are many morris dancing events etc. But our culture shows what it does, and culture moves on. For example Malaysian dancers, or Greek banks, or Chinese Lion Dance, or Scottish Sword dancing.. these are all to be found at various times.
dnicholsoncole 3 years ago
I love Nottingham. But why don't we have an English market? One with traditional, or historic, English foods and Mediaeval music, dancing, etc.? These things are lost if we don't revive them.
Georgiahulse 3 years ago