True Universal Health Care - A message to Iowans

[avionicswirenut]

This will not be free. Someone will pay for it one way or another. I watched a show today that had a guy who was in charge of 14 hospitals. From what I got out of it there will be less staff and fewer hospitals if all this passes. Also if you have group health care now it will be considered a taxable benifit and will be taxed as income.

[canadabob02]

each year from lack of health care. There are hundreds, if not thousands of people who do not receive the recognition for what my parents have done that they have done themselves. However, the fact that they are my parents makes me so very proud of them. The ability to be associated with people who are so very invested in stranger's health is so very important to me. Thank you so much for making me who I am mom and dad! I love you!

[canadabob02]

I have to say, both of my parents are in this video (the doctor in the first minute, and fifth minute and the woman who follows him and states he is the first to do this in minute 5.) My father deals with many kids whose parents cannot afford to pay for their children's health insurance, and my mother fights for the rights of the 48 million americans who have no coverage, She is the founder of the hands for healthcare, a program that hopes to collect 18,000 handprints to represent those who die

[denimblueindigo]

I think we should have a plan like HR 676, with an option to opt out for all the people who don't want universal healthcare. That way, everybody is covered and everybody gets what they want. If you opt out, you get a tax credit. A simple yes or no check box on the 1040 form. Do you wish to opt out of universal healthcare? yes/no.

[norlandflagetteebo1]

I got damn!!! It's about time, in a interview this woman said he held her down and beat the crap out of her in a studio.

If you are uninsurable, have any pre existing medical conditions, and in need of a health plan in 24 hours for a low price call 1877-467-9970 ask for Ebony, she's really nice and she got me coverage for the low.

[ReduceGHGs]

Google the below and learn about some UHC myths.

The Case For Single Payer, Universal Health Care For The United States The US is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee access to health care as a right of citizenship. 28 industrialized nations have single payer universal health care systems, while 1 (Germany) has a multi-payer UHC system like Clinton proposed

UHC --> a right and not a privilege.

700,000 bankruptcies/yr due to medical expenses!

IT'S TIME!

[juanelromantico777]

it seems like just one little topic can bring about so many different point of views...and in a sense you are all correct. I agree with some one who said we should just skip the middleman and go direct, there's plenty of revenue there, its possible, i mean look at

Sam Walton and what he did in just a couple decades, Wal Mart became the wealthiest business in the world and they don't even make anything just by skipping a step or two in the distribution chain!

[MamaBear2008]

Thank you, John, for championing for what's right.

[UNHCNOW]

Most of the comments here are uninformed and some downright wrong. Sounds like your knowledge comes from MSM pundits.

[WeedaPeople]

Well...that was a pretty general statement made to...er...um...no one knows who you were addressing it to.

What exactly do you have a problem with?

[Scorpio441211]

There are about 11 different versions Socialized Healthcare in Europe alone, and they vary widely in both structure and format. Some are very good and others not as good.

I always liked the form of free enterprise, where I dealt with my Doctor's practice as a private business paid by a single Govt. payer, from the premium funds I gave to the Govt.

So, I think your generalization below is also Idle Chatter.

[WeedaPeople]

Government should regulate, and enforce rules. Anything more is an intrusion into our lives.

I really do not care what you think is idle chatter or not. I want Govenment out of my life, not more in it.

[Scorpio441211]

All the more reason a Govt. regulated and enforced payer system would eliminate the need for 6,000 proprietary insurance forms. Or the middleman insurance that provides no service, except as a gatekeeper and who siphons off 30-35% for selecting who gets coverage and who doesn't. Or denial of what medical care my doctor says I need. Or who tells me what doctors are approved to see. Every dollar I pay in; premiums, deductibles and co-pays are a tax, whether we call it tax or not.

[WeedaPeople]

Even more reason to fix the problems and not create other problems with Govenment bureaucracy. You never make anything more efficient by adding layer upon layer of Government. If you have 6,000 insurance forms now, you will have 60,000 Government forms. That is how it works.

[Scorpio441211]

Social programs are abused by private companies. I don't blame the program. Govt. does exactly as told. I view it as I would any bank heist, I don't blame the Bank, I would imprison the criminals who stole the money. I view it again like a bank that've had their funds embezzled. e.g. raided S.S. accounts for the pork, you never turned down. Throw the bums out and remind them who their boss is. Govt. is VERY efficient when lobbyists aren't involved. Don't add layers, just kick out the middlemen.

[WeedaPeople]

That sounds easy, but when you "Throw the bums out", who will run to replace them? More bums?

You have to change the way Govenment works. Right now we have this unrealistic accounting schema. You have to replace that first before adding any more gasoline to the fire.

[Scorpio441211]

Quit voting for those who have the slickest ads, paid for by their Lobbying contributors.

The way Govt. works is the "Money" that greases the skids. That is what has created these accounting schemes. They certainly wouldn't shell out 2.2 billion in healthcare Lobbying if they didn't think they'd have a return on their Dollars. Why continue to support any representative who has bought into things like "Pharma 'D'". The message gets around.

[WeedaPeople]

We have to allow third partys to be voted for in all 50 states.

We have to educate people, not fill them full of slogans and one liner agenda.

People have to want to be educated.

[Scorpio441211]

Right on!!

[Scorpio441211]

BTW The USA has always had a socialized form of government. But we don't have a communistic form of Government. You have obviously confused the two somewhere in your civics class. Or you've simply failed to understand the differences between a Elected Representative form of Government, and a Dictatorial Non-Representative form of government.

The first three words in our first Government document is, "WE THE PEOPLE". The Govt. that supplies all your present social services, is all of us.

[WeedaPeople]

I have no confusion. The Govenment already supplies too many social services. 80% of our budget is non-discretionary spending. When baby boomers retire, we will not have the revenues to pay for what we already have. We can not afford more.

[Scorpio441211]

If you keep allowing the Billions spent by Insurance Companies Lobbyists (more than the Oil industry) to write the laws in their favor and at our expense, you'll be screaming even louder. When Congress imposes Corporate sponsored rules on a social program, you get what we have. Insurance lobbies pay to have those rules imposed, and it's they who benefit and we pay. (e.g. Pharma "D")

[WeedaPeople]

So lets fix the problem, not throw out the entire system and start over with Government.

[MamaBear2008]

We don't call military medicine "socialism." Medicare and the VA provide excellent care. (Walter Reed was under the Dept. of Defense--not VA.) I lived in a country for a year with government-paid health care insurance and they are very happy to pay for it.

[WeedaPeople]

You may not call it socialism, but that is what it is. Government provided healthcare.

I have lived it, and it sucks.

[MamaBear2008]

Weedapeople, by your definition, government itself is socialism--group effort to provide for the common good. Universal health care helps everyone. Unless you're extraordinarily healthy or wealthy, you're at risk with our system today.

[WeedaPeople]

Wow...is that "MY" definition?

It amazes me how well other people think they know what I am thinking.

"At Risk", for what? Jackie Onassis was pretty darned rich, and she got cancer that killed her. What risk are you talking about that wealth mitigates?

[MamaBear2008]

I didn't say I know what you're thinking. We're talking. If I got you wrong, tell me. I meant that besides the 47 million uninsured, tens of millions more are at risk of losing their insurance. Of course wealth doesn't protect people from disease or injury. Lots of problems exist with today's system even for those of us with insurance.

[WeedaPeople]

The 47 million is a bogus figure (Per the Census Bureau). Of the 47 mil, 10 mil are illegal. 17 mil make more than $50K (More than 1/2 of them over $75K, Not poor), and 14 mil are eligible for Gov help, but do not enroll. So that leaves 9 million out of 301 mil total (3%). The "crisis" you speak of does not exist.

[WeedaPeople]

The fear mongers trying to sell socialism are saying we have this "47 million" who are poor and without care. They created this fake crisis to sell socialism. There was no other way we would buy it, so they have to make up an urgent, "sky is falling" travesty so we can solve it with socialism.

[IPOMonster]

FACT: According to the U.S. Census Bureau:

Of the 45 million uninsured Americans:

18 million are aged 18-34 - they spend 4 times more on alcohol and dining-out and spent zero for MEDICAL insurance

17 million Americans earn over $50,000 dollars and choose NOT to purchase insurance

9 million Americans earn over $75,000 per year and choose NOT to purchase insurance

DON'T LET LIBERAL POLITICIANS SPIN THE TRUTH --WATCH THIS VIDEO ON MY CHANNEL!

[shiningwhiffle]

45 - 18 - 17 - 9 = 1

Hmm... only 1 million out of 45 million who are not "choosing" not to have health insurance?

Bull. Shit. Those numbers are made up.

[IPOMonster]

Watch the video on my channel son.

I post my sources.

I guess the U.S. Census Bureau "makes" their numbers up, huh?

[shiningwhiffle]

Did you watch your own video? It said *8* million, not *1*.

[shiningwhiffle]

At any rate, the number of uninsured is only part of the problem. The other part is that the private sector does a piss poor job even for those who have insurance, and it's because that's precisely what they have incentives to do: deny coverage and refuse to pay for claims. A not-for-profit system wouldn't have those problems, at least not nearly to the degree for-profit systems have them.

[IPOMonster]

You are ignorant and naive.

It is obvious you know absolutely nothing about Economics.

But - none of you Liberals do...

[shiningwhiffle]

No, sir, *you* are the ignorant one. I understand economics better than you think, and I also understand that textbook economics are not very sophisticated.

The facts are that every other nation on the planet guarantees health insurance to its citizens and has as good or better of a health care system. If standard economic theory says this is impossible, then the theory needs to be revised.

[WeedaPeople]

shiningwhiffle: "45 - 18 - 17 - 9 = 1 Bull... Those numbers are made up".

17 million total make over $50, but of those, 9 million of them make over $75K. If you make over $75K, you also make over $50K...so the numbers are misleading, but not made up.

There are actually about 6-9 million who are poor and without, which equates to 2-3% of the total US population (Per Census Bureau).

[alltvisanimated]

Yes I agree, it should be mandatory that Universal health care should be OPTIONAL and available to all Americans, but not be a madatory OBLIGATION required of ALL Americans. The people should always have the choice and freedom to maintain their own health. Don't let Hilary and Edwards take that option away from you.

[WeedaPeople]

Did anyone see the 20/20 segment with John Stossel about Universal Healthcare and what a horrible idea it is?

Look for it on Youtube, it makes a lot of sense.

[haightstreetcrier]

evidence that our health care system does not work

youtube com/watch?v=DxJtyIjjmEA

[signsbyrusty]

Universal Healthcare...it's time has come...go see Sicko

[timbosforporn]

What health care crisis! Anyone can walk into a doctor's office and purchase the health care they need.

[signsbyrusty]

timbosforporn...I am one of the "uninsurable"...the insurance industry has deemed me a "poor risk" for "their profit"...so you say anyone can walk in and purchase what they need?...if I put back $25 a week...then in 100 years I will have saved up enough to have the operation doctors say I need...that is provided the cost stay the same...that's a crisis for me.

[timbosforporn]

Everyone should lose their health care because you can't get any. I'm not going to participate in your crappy socialist system because of your failings.

[SteveBKNY]

Would go to a hotel that charged you 10,000 a week while there was the same exact hotel that charged 1000 per week just across the street? The key to lowering health care costs is to introduce competition into the medical field like in other market places through transparency.

[Listman11]

SteveBKNY, you see you cannot introduce competition on medical procedures. There will always be doctor's who are better and will charge more. You also cannot introduce competition in emergencies and in medication. Your idea is good in theory but not in reality.

[windy39]

Harry Truman campaigned on Universal Health Care (UHC) back in 1948. Almost 70 years ago, and we still don't have it. Why? Because it is not viable. If it were, LBJ would have done it when he had a rubber stamp Congress that gave us all the other welfare and entitlement programs we now pay over 80% of our taxes on. UHC is a joke and it will never happen.

[shiningwhiffle]

It's 58% or so and it's irrelevant to the issue. Do some research, and you'll see that in the rest of the Western world that *did* get UHI are doing significantly better, the health care system is rated higher than us and the people live as long or longer than us. We got screwed.

[WeedaPeople]

Do some research yourself and you will find that many of the countries who have UHC are financially poor and getting worse.

People there pay more than 1/2 of their earnings to the Government. You may want that, we do not.

[shiningwhiffle]

If that's the case, I find it hard to believe that it's because of of UHC. When you at the total cost, either per-capita or as a percentage of GDP, none of them pay nearly as much on health care as we do. I think we pay 15% GDP, and France (the second-highest) pays 11.5%; per-capita we pay almost double what the next-highest country pays.

[WeedaPeople]

That is okay, you can find it hard to believe if you want. You have that right.

There is nothing about France that I want any part of. Ask a Dutchman who lives here sometime why they left. I know a few who all say that they like keeping their money, and not giving it to the Government.

[WeedaPeople]

I know some Canadians who say the same. They also say that they can not afford to sit in the "queue", waiting for treatments for life threatening illness. I know at least one who left Canada for Texas so he could gte the care he needed when he needed it. He was more than happy to pay for it out of the taxes he saved by living here.

[shiningwhiffle]

There's always cases like that. Overall, though, there's no reason to believe that the Canadian system is actually worse than ours in terms of actual results, and some reasons to believe that it's better.

[WeedaPeople]

It is not better when people have to come here for services they can not get there. The Texas-Canadian I met needed services he could not get there because 1 machine existed in a whole province, where many of the same machines existed in one city in North Dakota.

[shiningwhiffle]

No doubt France is "drowning in taxes" as Moore himself put it. They also have some pretty crazy employment laws. My point was still that they pay the second-most on health care and it's still not nearly what we pay. In addition, their system is rated no. 1 by the World Health Organization.

Secondly, I like keeping my money, too, but I just think that's not a good argument against making sure people have access to basic needs.

[WeedaPeople]

Why are you so concerned with what France spends? It is irrelevant to what we do here. The system has flaws that can be addressed in due time. There is no crisis that demands a leap to socialism. We have enough problems without Government control over health.

[WeedaPeople]

90 million Americans will be able to retire in the next 20 years. That is 1/3 of the population that will no longer pay income tax.

We have 80% of the budget now pre-allocated for entitlements. Before we can spend 1 dime by choice, we have to pay all these other things. Does France have that fiscal burden?

Where is the money going to come from to pay for what we already have?

[WeedaPeople]

Everything we buy now will double in price to regain the revenues that will not come in through income taxes. $20K cars will cost $40K, Gas will be $6 per gallon, and the "six dollar burger" will actually cost more than $6.

[SteveBKNY]

whos got 200,000,000,000 million dollars to pay for this?

[Listman11]

What do you think the current cost is for not offering universay healthcare? Do you know that a large percentage of automobiles are built in Ontario because the auto makers do not need to pay for sky high healthcare costs.

[SteveBKNY]

People don't understand that the problem is transparency. Prices are high because there is no competion like there is in a free market place. People go to the doc get surgery or what not, they charge whatever they want and the insurance pays for it. THat happens now and it'll happen especially with universal health care. You have to make doctors compete for your money. Heart surgery in one hospital can cost 30,000 and 600,000 for the same procedure in another hospital.

[SteveBKNY]

Competition rewards good services, keeps prices at a minimum and makes hospitals/pharmacies/doctors work harder for the money they earn. Transparency is the key.

[Listman11]

SteveBKNY, transparency is great but how does that help in emergency cases. You cannot be shopping around when you have been shot. The only guarantee you have in controlling costs is the have a cost scale for each procedure and a cap in doctor's salaries.

[SteveBKNY]

I personally like living in a country that has the best doctors on earth that are imported from socialist countries who emigrate. Transparency doesnt solve all our problems but neither does universal health care. At least with transparency we can have much lower insurance rates and still keep our top notch doctors. All I'm saying is that there may be other much more effective ways than universal health care. I've heard some good stuff about UCH and a lot of bad stuff.

[Listman11]

I agree that there are positives and negatives. I am a Canadian living in Illinois. I have seen both sides. I have healthcare here and it is better than what I was getting in Canada.

[Listman11]

However, everything is perspective. If you do not have insurance in the US, I am sure they would prefer the Canadian System. I think a tiered system is the best. There is a min healthcare for all and better if you can afford it. That is what all universal healthcare system have now.

[shiningwhiffle]

> that are imported from socialist countries

You, sir, need to do your homework and cut out the ad hominems.

[SteveBKNY]

Google Florida transparency pharmaceuticals. With transparency doctors and hospital compete and u have much lower prices like in other free markets. It's smarter, cheaper, and just plain makes sense. It'll keep costs down and lower insurance primiums SIGNIFICANTLY. Trust me, universal health care is NOT the answer.

[ChicagoMafia1]

One thing is clear, the American health care system is a failure !!! We need a revolution in this country.

[boucaques07]

Wanna know why this joker still wants the insurance industry in the loop? because schiester lawyers like him can SUE insurance companies... you can't sue the government and win millions in class action lawsuits if the government is the defendent. So this asshole will try to keep the dirty trial lawyers' pockets full of cash if the insurance industry is still around.

[phantasmbunny]

umm. that still sounds like privatised nonsense (co-pays, deductions?). that's not UH. in UH, there isn't a health plan to choose. it's just there wherever you need it. like the library or a school. you go to the closest one and get what you need because the govt. is footing the bill either way (medicine, a book, an education). the end!

[manfromhills]

Universal Healthcare is financed by raising tax.The appropriate taxation would be taxing the higher income group more for the benefit of the underpriviledge.THats how it is done in the western countries and even in the developed Asian countries.We do not need to worry about our medical cost cause our govt. takes care of everything.

Peace from Asia.

[Listman11]

I am from Canada and I am all for universal healthcare. However you will never have it unless you cap the salaries of Doctors. In Ontario Canada, it is capped at about $450,000. Doctor's salaries are the biggest expense in the healthcare system and you cannot have universal healthcare without it.

[SteveBKNY]

I that why our doctors are better here in america?

[soonrryan]

Why doesn't he say that he got rich sueing the pants off people? Its so expensive because you helped make it that way. The last thing we need it government run healthcare. I'm not paying for any more people's shit. I've had it.

[CarsonWeber]

bottom line: John Edwards supports infanticide. I'm not talking about abortion.. I'm talking about a baby delivered breech all the way until just the head is yet to come out - then the abortionist crushes the baby's skull to complete delivery. Edwards mourned the partial-birth abortion ban & the Supreme Court's upholding of it.

[maejunkmail]

"We have selected your primary physician for your universal healthcare account...Meet Dr. Joycelin Elders" What a great idea, lawyers who drive up healthcare controlling healthcare! Note the number of MRI providers in upstate NY, right over the Canadian border.

[antiwar100]

This is really scary stuff. Why doesn't Edwards get the government completely out of health care, and watch the costs drop significantly. Health care is not a natural right.

[stevejonas1088]

hmmm Government control. Cause we all know they handle social security, and medicare so well.

[americafirstcrowd]

Edwards is lying. There is no such thing as a universal healthcare system in a "FOR-PROFIT" system, such as we've suffered for decades now. Universal healthcare only exists in "NON-PROFIT" healthcare systems. Further, UH means NO INSURANCE PAYMENTS - whereas "FOR-PROFIT" system have you making pymts. - like Edwards "FOR-PROFIT" healthcare plan. Americans wouldn't know a universal healthcare plan if they fell over one. Edwards should be sued for false advertisement.

[leemann25177]

A wasted vote is a vote for a someone you dont believe is because you believe only the two parties matter. All true new ideals come for the fringes so if enough votes go to a third the ideals get moved forward. As for universal health care it is a failure every where.

[litlepingu]

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[freyathedark]

Wow! This video was really well done in terms of editing, music, etc. And to the camera crew: You guys were so polite and awesome! Thanks!

To everyone else: If you're going to debate, do it elsewhere, please. I come here to watch the videos, not look at huge, pointless debates. What happens, happens.

[KB77TY]

Universal health care is not a bad idea because, the number cause of bankruptcy in America is health related cost. An emergency care is a lot more expensive than preventative. But I think although he may become our frontrunner--this will have to be it for me. Today, he appeared on Howard campus to leave without one friend. If he thought about the student as more than a photo-op with black faces I think they would have loved him.

[bjr35]

I'd like a little more detail on how this plan is going to work... How are the "markets" for health care set up? (Would they be that different from the confusion in Medicare today?) How does the government make sure that workers can hold on to their health care if they switch jobs? About how much would this cost, in terms of government revenue, and how would we pay for it?

[davidgriffen]

I think the press is starting to slowly realize that Edwards is the man. I live in California, and I already have his bumper sticker on my car.

[randomdude90]

Dennis Kucinich pointed out that his plan (Kucinich's) is the only universal health care plan that does not benefit the insurance companies.

[amishmustardseed]

You think taxes are bad now? You think this would be free? We would be taxed out of our minds to pay for this program. Another point..it is interesting that politicians would not be part of this program. They would continue to have private health benefits. If it's so good then why would that be? Since when has government got involved in a program and produced good results?

[QUAGMIRE58]

Your going to trust a Senator who was a trial lawer to fix health care? How much of his $6,000,000 home and his $36,000,000 bank account was paid for by lawsuits he filed against health care providers? I agree with Grimli. First fix the malpractice system, before pumping tax money into socialist health care.

[strategyminded]

Are you going to trust an OIL MAN with more money than Edwards to actually do something about the country's addiction to oil? Most of Edwards' lawsuits were against CORPORATIONS who ruined people's lives. Besides, if a doctor RUINS someone's life, that Dr should be held accountable just like anyone else.

[QUAGMIRE58]

I'm not trusting anyone who is a Republican or a Democrat. I'm sending a message and going third party.

[ajrikli]

Then go ahead and waste your vote. This is a two-party system and a third party vote is a wasted one.

[FamilyGuy58]

There is no such a thing as a "wasted" vote. I not trying to vote for the winner, I want to vote for the person who I think will serve the country the best, and against those who in the long run will hurt the country or my views. While my third party candidate may lose my vote still counts and therefore isn't wasted. Don't buy into the Demopublicans and Republicrats, there is very little difference between the two they are both going down the same road, just on opposite sides of that road.

[ajrikli]

That sounds all good and dandy, but you fail to recognize the fact that this country was founded on a two-party system. Since the constitution doesn't change all that much, we still have one. Voting out of this two-party system is removing ourselves from the very Democratic process that was put in place for us.

[FamilyGuy58]

Those original two parties are dead and gone, which means at one time or another there was a third party, a third party that fought its way to the present as one of the two dominate parties. Truthfully are the Demopublicans and Republicrats serving the people or themselves? If you want the best healthcare in the world don't vote Democrat...become either a Sen. or a Rep. They truly have the best healthcare, best retirement plan, and have written tax code regulations only they can use.

[ajrikli]

The question, "Are they serving themselves?" assumes all Democrats and Republicans are the same. This belief is unfounded. Ever since the beginning of this country, we've seen good people and bad people in charge -- only a true cynic honestly believes all politicians are bad people. Subsequently voting for a third party based on this belief is not only against the odds in this ages-old system we have in place, it's destructive to it.

[FamilyGuy58]

We are talking about the federal level right? Check the voting records, there are exceptions in each party, but 5 or 6 people can't do anything in Congress. Democrats and Republicans tend to vote along party lines, not always but tend to. They do serve themselves, see their benefits above. Who is the last Congressperson to turn down a pay raise? It is never distructive to a government to vote out bad people. More Below

[FamilyGuy58]

Unlike my friend Quagmire, who started this string and seems to have disappeared, I wouldn't vote for a third party person unless I agree with their views, and thought they were the best person. must also say I wouldn't vote for someone with a 'D' or 'R' after their name just because they are a member of that party.

[QUAGMIRE58]

I am not a cynic, but a realist. Maybe not all, but the vast majority of politicians at the federal level, especially if they have been there more than 12 years are looking out for themselves and not the people. While Edwards hasn't been there that long yet, he has learned quickly how to obtain power to his benefit.

[topperharley12585]

You should read some Game Theory on Voting Theory.

[astrogirlsirius]

The Edwards plan is a great plan for solving our health care crisis. This is exactly what we need!

[Grimli]

Part of fixing health care is also fixing the legal system, How much to doctors pay for malpractice insurance, how many people try to hit the lottery with a lawsuit, when lawyers advertise they have 1 billion dollars in experience, that says a lot.

[strategyminded]

Insurance companies are raising premiums BECAUSE THEY WANT TO. Lawsuits only account for about 2% of what goes into premiums. Most of it is STOCK MARKET LOSES by insurance companies. Besides, doctor unions limit the amount of doctors who can work, in order to increase wages.

[ff02a320]

Sen. Edwards plans for universal health care are great. Everyone deserves the right to health care. No one can be ignored like they are today. I think if John Edwards was to be elected as President, he'd try to take care of these problems and put American citizens first instead of what the current administration is doing.

[schratboy]

Everyone can get healthcare today if they need it. Sure, you gotta pay for it just like anything.

[strategyminded]

So, what if you can't afford it and your employer doesn't provide you with it? Why shouldn't health care be a part of being a citizenship, when