The muslims are pure shit. They hate us and are trying to kill us on many levels. As far as I'm concerned the Israelis should just shoot kill all the palestinian, men women and children. Infact arabs and muslims of any kind deserve death for bringing their shit to the world.
Don't be so hateful. I am an arab from Syria and I am an atheist...many of us Syrians despise Hamas and terrorism. In many points we disagree with Israel but concerning terrorism and jihadism we are all in the same boat. We arabs are just as human as you are.
@OperationSaveSyria Very true. There are even many examples of peaceful Jewish-Muslim marriages in Israel and elsewhere. It is a natural human desire to want to live a peaceful life without hatred and violence.
so when is EuroPEON media and even American media going to show this kind of crap Hamas pulls, and then expects us to feel sorry for these hateful bastard islamists?
look at the west bank, israel is controlling it but it is really controlled by fatah. if israel were to conquer gaza and bring in fatah to maintain control, it to can live in peace, the enemy is not israel, nor palistine, nor the arab countries but hamas. FREE GAZA FROM HAMAS (in am a orthodox jew)
Was this the same zoo that Hamas filmed the Pioneer of Tomorrow episode were the guy in a bumble bee costume tortured some felines? (see watch?v=_ExZVimjST8)
cut the head of the snake... come on out Haniyeh you coward - the whole world wants a word with you - you slinking weasel.. we will find you just like saddam hussein...you too Nasrallah big mouth shut now huh ! and Meshaal you baby killer twisted SOAB i long for the day the missile cam footage shows it right up to the moment it goes down yr throat. Hamas your Games is up.. The internet saw to that and the truth is out about yr stage-shows. Where's Iran eh ?? Left you out to dry
Iran would obliterate Israel in a second if it wasnt for the fact its the 51st state of America. By the way why is there no missile cams for any on the 300 children that have been massacred by Israel so far?
I disagree with hamas firing rockets but israels response is, under official UN resolutions, a warcrime. The world knows exactly what israel is doing so stop hiding behind the facade of blaming one or two hamas extreemists for the israeli slaughter of innocent children
You live in a dream world RayHinkel.7000 rockets in 8 years into civilian areas is one or two extremists - hahahahah your sooooo funny dude.Iran is a pathetic backward nation who happen to have oil.Israel has the right to live in peace.And if they are armed by the US sooooo what! Jealous of the fact? And why should you want a nation wiped out? The world now sees the TRUTH on the internet.Israel dropped leaflets and phoned the houses so the children and civilians had plenty time to leave
IT IS NEVER A WAR CRIME TO SHOT AT HAMAS EVEN IF IT ALSO KILLS 1000 CIVILIANS. THE WARCRIME IS TO HIDE AMONG 1000 CIVILIANS. ALL BLAME IS TO HAMAS! Israel has the right to not getting shoot at and they have the absolut right to do what ever they have to do to stop it as long there targets are only military. And that is what 100% of ÍDF targets are. In opposit to hamas that have civilians (arabs also) as the target. The response is very very fair. Sweden is talking!
The media isn't "all pro-Israel". They aren't all anti-Israel, I'm not about to say that. But what you say isn't true, either. Even CNN, an american program (google it to view reports) isn't pro OR contra. They are showing both kinds of reports. And that's when USA actually support Israel.
Anyway, being "chosen" has nothing to do with it. I don't like religion playing into politics in any case. But protecting your family, your citizens, that's important.
Why is it that I remember Israelis actualy saying things like "f*ck them, this land was ours long before the Arabs ever came there, and it is our right to take it back, even if it means killing them all" in the comments on youtube, and now suddenly it has become self-defence? Just asking, don't get me wrong.
Erm... because there are idiots everywhere, even in Israel?
Agression never stays on one side, it's very contagious. Obviously, there are going to be some, who, after watching some reports on exploding school busses and teeny-discotheks, are going to forget, that you can't blame every arab or muslim. Except in Israel that's the minority, in the arab world the majority seems to blame all jews/israelis. I guess they're the only ones allowed to talk. I wonder, why.
Look, I live in the Netherlands, and the TV here is so pro-Israel that they go as far as saying things like: "well these palestinians, they make an elefant of a fly, and if needed, they will even play some theater to get attention.". I don't think that this is reality, and I know that the media of most countries in europe and elsewhere do the same. Even al-jazeera does things like that, and it is a bit unfair to say that only the anti-Israel's-imperialism voice is heard. That's not true at all.
No, you're right, that's not true. There are media supporting both sides pretty much everywhere, though this is the first time I'm hearing about al-jazeera in this context.
In any case, people dying is never a fly. But sometimes, horrible as it is, war can't be avoided. You can't expect a country to let it's citizens be terrorised on a daily basis for years upon years, all for the sake of peace.
Those rockets, even if they rarely hit anything, are still psychological torture.
Well yes, but what about the even greater psychological torture, and physical as well, of the palestinian people? I mean, ok, they voted for hamas because they are afraid of the , in their eyes, conquerors, the state of Israel. They are only human as well, and to tell you the truth, arabs have been keeping quite far too long about these issues.
Blaming the population in Gaza is not really the point here. The point is - at war, people always suffer. But you can't expect a country not to defend itself. As you said, everyone is human. Don't expect Israel to become a mertyr state for peace in the arab world. You can expect them to try and keep civil casualties to a minimum, but even that's not going to work, if the opposing government is looking for those casualties to happen.
Couldn't you say the oposite as well? That hamas are actually trying to do the same as what the IDF is doing? Defending their country from "Israeli Imperialism"? Why is it that Israel is defending itself whereas hamas are offending, and could it not be that hamas are defending Palestine while Israel is in offence?
Erm... first off, let's start where the hamas is actually looking for civil victims and the death of everyone in Israel, while Israel is looking to avoid such casualties on the other side as much as possible.
Israel's policy does not say "kill all arabs".
Israel wasn't occupying anything anymore, either, yet the hamas still wanted to destroy Israel and kill all jews.
Terrorists even killed jewish people who did not live in Israel, had nothing to do with it.
To tell you the truth, I have seen a video once where a hamas official was saying that the only thing they wanted, was their homes to live in, which means, the Jews out of at least what remains of Palestine. I don't think that this is such a bad thing to want, is it?
From what I've gathered, the occupation of Palestina ended with Gaza.
In any case, Israel is where it is. Most people went there with no thoughts to religion or politics, just for a home. Whoever you kick out, nothing you do is gonna be fair.
Yet, a diplomatic agreement had been reached, a chance for peace and recovery appeared for everyone. Then, the new government of Gaza destroyed it before it could blossom by declaring the destruction of Israel as an official goal.
Well, I don't know about the last thing you said since I have not seen it personally, but I'd be more than happy if you could send me a link to such a video or document saying this in a personal message.
What I meant by "they're the only ones allowed to talk" wasn't "the media is anti-Israel", I meant that, well, look at youtube. There's hardly anyone who is defending Palestina, but at the same time condemning those rockets, or at least showing regret over the suffering they cause.
One little girl from Gaza said "I blame the hamas" on a live telivision broadcast by the Hamas and the broadcast was instantly interrupted. Honestly? I'm very worried over what happened to that girl ands her family.
Look, I'm getting your point, and I hate to say, but I don't realy like those hamas guys anyway, but what about Israel shutting the borders and letting no journalists in and anyone out? I don't justify what hamas do, but is what Israel does any better?
Well, during the Hesbala war, the media was one thing the Hesbala used for strategy. They sent in reporters, who were to show live footage on the Israeli moves, then used that information for their own strategy. Israel was bound to learn from experience.
As for closing borders, well, so did Egypt. Really, any country would close it's borders if the chosen government had "destroy said country" as an official goal. There's nothing abnormal about that, even if the consequences for Gaza are bad.
You mean shutting the borders of your enemies? Not even food or water is getting in. I have heard from people I know that the doctors there even had to use curtains as bandages because of there being no medical supplies.
Israel IS sending in humanitarian aid, you know. It may not be enough, but, really. Where's all that international financial aid going? Ah, yes, spent on rockets by the government.
If the arab world, or the world in general, really wants to save those people, the Hamas NEEDS to be removed and they are not leaving peacefully. Otherwise, there will never be an economy or infrastructure, ever, because all money will be put into military, and the international world isn't going to feed them forever.
I have heard that it was not hamas that broke the last cease-fire truce, rather Israel, and that hamas responded to that. What's your opinion or knowledge on this issue? By the way, I was just reading an article on Yahoo! News about Egypt convincing hamas on a 10 day cease-fire.
All I heard on part one were some very obscure comments on youtube, by people, who were screaming "kill jews". I would need to hear more about that first. In Any case, when there is an official ceasefire going on, you try to solve things deplomatically, not with rockets. Israel didn't retaliate for the rockets until the ceasefire was over and gave plenty of warnings to stop, after all.
As for the second part, what's a 10 day cease-fire supposed to accomplish? Now, if they managed a total one...
A 10 day cease-fire can accomplish 10 days of negotiating on a permanent cease-fire. The truce holds that for these 10 days, Israeli troops will be patroling Gaza, and hamas have accepted their part, although Israel is not sure about it yet, since they don't know what the reaction of hamas will be if Israeli troops will be staying in Gaza for 10 whole days. I hope this cease-fire will get both sides to a good result, but if Israel refuses, God knows what will happen.
By the way, this conflict didn't start last week. I still remember Israel bulldozing houses and farms of Palestinian people, and doing other things which are pretty much inhumane. Anyhow, let's hope for the best for both sides...
Yes it started 1921 when the arabs started to kill jews all over the middle east . And it started again 1947 one year before Israel even existed when arabs drove a truck full of explosives in to civilian jews and blow them up. This is the same war as the arabs started and it have never stopped.
In fact, you get to see people in Israel, who openly say that they're against that war, which is causing suffering in Gaza, even though they themselves live on the south border. Noone kills them for it, or shuts them up. Meet democracy.
On the other hand we have arabs, who say "only zionists are bad, destroy Isreal" and call this "being objective". Meanwhile, they forget all the people INSIDE Israel, who are suicidally pacifistic. That's not objective, just plain old "divide and conquer".
You made your point and I agree that some Arabs are idiots as well, but isn't it unfair that the media is so fanaticaly pro-Israel? I have said in other comments of other videos that I personally love jewish people, their culture, and their religion, but this is no excuse for some of them getting all arrogant about it. Ok, being the chosen people of God, but does that justify the actions of their country?
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"Meanwhile,they forget all the people INSIDE Israel,who are suicidally pacifistic"
Im sorry but you seem to forget the fact that the Israeli government is voted for in large part for their stance on military policy. I wont agrue against the fact there are some israelis who disagree with their governments disproportionate response in this case but dont try and hide the fact the majority of israelis are resolutely behind this operation and have no scrupples about the death of innocent civilians
1) Isn't the same argument used by some extremist Israelis for why all the people in Gaza "should" be killed?
"The majority there voted for Hamas, Hamas is fiering rockets into Israel, so the people in Gaza all deserve to die and let's forget avoiding civilian casualties"? Don't go to a place you don't want to end up at.
2) Standing behind the military operation is not the same as having no scrupels. If you have defend yourself, it doesn't mean you want to kill the other person.
Sickening, Really! Best regards to Israel and its soldiers taking care of this mess once and for all...The rest of the world is watching, and the longer they see things like this the more they will understand!
There is a reason no other Arab nations are getting involved...they all deal with this themselves in their own countries..They understand Israel's position!
"There is a reason no other Arab nations are getting involved they all deal with this themselves in their own countries..They understand Israel's position"
Dont you know anything about the political situation in the middle east? Arab nations arent getting involved ONLY because Israel is protected by the United States. Israel would not exist without otherwise.
Ha all arabcountry exept Syria and Iran (not arabs) are supporting Israel against Hamas. Not against the palestins because noone are agains the people (not Israel who sad yes to a free palestin already in 1948).
Israel forever! Read the prophets and you will see! Yes soon the World will come against, but G_D Himself will show Himself strong on Israel behalf! Never will removed again!
Its very sad to see that no one in the world (outside of Israel, who gives nearly 100% of their water, food, electiricty, ect..) really cares about the lives of the Palistains. If people did, they would support the end of hamas, and the reinstatment of Fatah and Abbas, who are not fireing rockets or sending bombers into Israel right now, and are building up infasturcter and ecomony
Its so sick to see the truth come out and people still put 100% of the blaim on Israel. REGUARDLESS of which "side" you take, hamas is far worse to the people of gaza then Israel has ever been. They use all their money to bulid up arms and bombs instade of economy and infastructure. Its sick that people would even think to support hamas after we are finally seeing what they are really doing. We have all suspected this kind of behavior, especally in lebanon, but here is the smoking gun...
Some people don't see facts, they see what they want to see. I'm sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over. Denying the truth won't make it go away. The only way to help the people in Gaza is to either remove, or reform Hamas. This so called government has been declared a terrosorst group by the international community, for god's sake! That didn't happen because they are cuddly teddybears who love kids.
Israel cannot open it's borders to an area governed by suicide bombers!
Hamas has not hidden its objective of destroying Israel. It has conducted a three-year terror war since Israel's evacuation of Gaza, which followed the five-year Palestinian Intifada that claimed more than 1,000 Israeli lives. No country would show the degree of restraint that Israel exhibited as its cities were rocketed.
At the first sign of danger,the leaders of Hamas typically run and hide.Their bravery extends to sending young disciples to become martyrs and using the rest of the population
If I was living in Gaza and Israel was cutting off our oil, water and food supplies I would be firing rockets myself. Not to mention the fact Israel threw my family off its land in 1948 killing thousands.
Anyone who agrees with Iraels indiscriminate killing of innocent children would ironically have made a good nazi. This is genocide and everyone knows it. This video is pure propaganda at its most vile. Gaza we support you
Actually, Israel supplies food, gas, and electricity to Gaza. When they are fighting they cut of the supply. Do you know of any other country that needs to supply energy to their enemy? Only Israel. Let Egypt supply them. It is ironic of how the Arabs sided with the Nazis during world war 2, and now they are being compared to the Jews. Funny.
According to your logic. Eveyone who was relocated from India and Pakistan when they split, should also become suicide bombers.
Israel have consistently deprived Gaza of oil and gas over the last few years. Its reached critical levels at times and power outages are common place causing water contamination and complete societal breakdown. Its not newsworthy though.
You seem to forget that israel is not self sufficient. It is subsidized by america. Gaza is prevented from receiving unauthorised foreign subsidy by israels control of its airspace and coastline. Israel have them exatly where they want them, helpless prisoners
Israel owes Gaza NOTHING... And Sorry Gaza has a border with Egypt so try blaming Egypt for the prison you wrongly claim. No rockets=peace=aid. The Gazans VOTED for Hamas, Voted for War against Israel, so stop bleating when it comes.
Israel owes gaza nothing? How about freedom or more to the point the possibility of freedom? Does Egypt control Gaza's airspace and coastline? Dont you realise Egypt is backed into a corner politically because it cant override US sanctioning of UN resolutions that would otherwise allow Egypts direct involvment in Gaza? You obviously know very little about the situation so stop posting comments to diliberately mislead people.
complete rubbish.. no rockets=peace=aid=freedom. My hard earned taxes go via the UK government to the lazy Gazans more bent on weapons and destruction than in building a viable infrastructure. I read just as much as you and have just as much knowledge to make my own decision. Go Israel and UK government send the Gazans Fuck All. Im sick of paying taxes towards these death cult wierdo's with more children than even I in a first world economy can afford.
what a moron.........obviously this is beyond u and cant debate shit, playing the same old record , learn something about the world outside of your cloistered little zionist utopian existence, dipshit
evidently a terrorist sympathiser. wear a nice bright uniform wanker so the IDF cant miss. keep away from kids and women too. first of all I am not a jew, nor do i live in utopia. I live in the same world as you, and know the difference between a terrorist organisation and a legitimate sovereign army. also both the jews and the gazans have a right to live in peace. but both hebollah and Hamas do not want this (yet) ok. Take yr blinkers off and remove yr head from yr arse.
freedom comes when they stop violence. the palestin decide there own freedom with there veapons. they have only themself to blame, because any country in the world would do exaktly the same as Israel.
"If I was living in Gaza and Israel was cutting off our oil, water and food supplies I would be firing rockets myself" - that's the regular muslim way of dealing with the situation. I have a proposal - go get a job, imbecile, rockets won't bring you any food. I'd better be a "nazi" (as you prefer to call rational people) than a lazy, stupid muslim prick.
Rational? Tell me whats rational about the slaughter of innocent children under the pretence of defence? Whats rational about the subjugation of over 1 million people who are about as autonomous as poland was in 1939.
I have a proposal for you - take an objective look at all the facts, grow a conscience and lose the disgusting prejudice that renders everything you say pointless and unimportant. Your pushing the cause for ignorant morons everywhere, fucking simpleton
There's definitely nothing rational about repeating to you simple axioms since you keep telling us your sophisticated mumbo jumbo with twisted facts. I will no longer waste my time on self-deluded cretins like yourself. Nothing will ever change, anyway. You were born as an infantile moron and you will die as one.
UN helped terrorists in Lebanon strategically and provisionally. UN ambulances are being used for weapons, explosives and terrorists transporting. UN KNOWS that palestinian extremists keep explosives in schools and hospital and do nothing about it, and when something detonates and palestinians claim that Israel is responsible UN is the first there to believe them and bark against Israel. But when the truth is revealed and acknowledged (usually by UN's silence) UN doesn't even apologize.
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Sorry Israel, I'm not buying it. It's clear that this is propaganda, any fool can see that. And the soldier said they got out "in time"? Surely that detonator would have easily been triggered if they had been in the building. Makes. No. Sense. If an INDEPENDENT observer had been allowed to report this, I might have believed it. And anyway, Israel can hardly get on a high horse about bombing schools, can it? No, not when they're massacreing the Gaza children with aforethought every single day.
Thanks bazookaben, there are naive people out there who think that Israel is right, UN is wrong, Red Cross is wrong, Red Crescent is wrong, Be't Selem (Israeli Human rights organization) is wrong, HRW, Amnesty are wrong.
Only Israel is the true source of information, yeah right.
Israel expels Richard Falk (Jewish American), UN Rights envoy from Gaza because he raised concerns about Israeli actions that might amount to war crimes acc to Geneva convention: youtube[.]com/watch?v=bkF1XxdXQFc
Here is clear evidence of a simple explosive switch with a wire attached to it going to a bulding. Hizbollah (the lebonese chapter of the muslim brotherhood) was cited and proved to repedetly blow up buldings in lebanon long after Isreali shelling had ceased in that area, prior to filling them with bodies from the moruge. This is just more proof of the already known methods that these groups use. If the world really cared about plastians, they would remove hamas and put fatah back in.
A very interesting question i have read. They show us mothers mourning their death children. How is it possible that mothers aren`t hurt when the children are kille? Are mothers not there to protect their children? Or, more probably, are those "deaths" only staged?
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How would you protect your children if an Israeli bomb kills them while they are at the school? 40 innocents died in the Israeli attack on a UN school. Isrealis claim that it was being used for gunfire, UN says the school was not used for such activity. You be the judge.
All normal nations close schools at times like this. I'm not even sure now there were children at all. That's how it usually happens: Israeli missile hits a pal. school (when no one's there) and it explodes with secondary explosions (guess why). Then hamas claims that dozens of kids were killed and injured while PALESTINIAN medical society arrives and finds NO bodies. It happened many times like that but I guess imbeciles like you cannot be convinced of pali lies repeated constantly.
Palistain whitnesses were cited in nearly every AP article I read as saying that Hamas gunman fired from near or arround the school, then ran into the croud of people for cover. These are eye whitness accounts comming from people who are there in an Associate Press report. Not exactally your bias news sorces, or at least not in favor of Israel.
Staged deaths? What the hell is wrong with you? There are plenty of women dying with their children but obviously there are going to be lots of cases where one or the other dies. The debrit that results from a missile is projected at random you moron. How can you possibly make such a stupid remark?
Pali women and children mostly die while being used as a human shield. Palestinian extremists are launching missiles from crowded civil ares, thus provoking Israeli strike on the launching systems. Hamas then uses their deads against Israelis as if it was not their (palestinian, that is) fault. Of course there is a few who died accidentally, things like that happen when there's a war. Bombs have no eyes. If hamas fought properly civilian deads would be much lower. But they just don't care.
A very interesting question i have read . They show us mothers mourning their death children . How is it possible that mothers aren`t hurt when the children are killed ? Are mothers not there to protect their children ? Or , more probably , are those "deaths" only staged ?
How would you protect your children if an Israeli bomb kills them while they are at the school? 40 innocents died in the Israeli attack on a UN school. Isrealis claim that it was being used for gunfire, UN says the school was not used for such activity. You be the judge.
Well, considering the fact that UN covers muslim asses and is eager to fall for every lie they say I'd believe ANYONE but UN and muslim media. UN has already been proven to be very... helpful in transporting weapons and terrorists in Palestine. UN ambulances with weapons inside is no news in gaza. It is is easily bribed... and scared.
So you are saying that Israelis planted those explosives? Interesting point of view, a bit predictably judeaphobic, though.
Do you know how I determine who did what? Logic, deduction, ability to learn from history. Muslims, especially palestinians, are known for their agitations, propaganda and lies. If this video doesn't prove it many others do. Israelis have always been victims of those lies and despite everything never used it as a weapon by themselves. You simply ignore facts, primate.
Unfortunately youtube doesnt allow us to post URL's in the replies; I found a video the other day from a Hamas media broadcast in which they admit to and brag about using human shields.
stupid hamas u want to kill your own people
Becky123190 1 year ago
yea..
now i wanna see one of those arab-lovers that goes to protest comment here
this is real, the world can ignore it as much as he want's...but it wont be like the holocust, now we can fuck them back!!
yosi1653 2 years ago
The muslims are pure shit. They hate us and are trying to kill us on many levels. As far as I'm concerned the Israelis should just shoot kill all the palestinian, men women and children. Infact arabs and muslims of any kind deserve death for bringing their shit to the world.
Helpertin 2 years ago 3
@Helpertin
Don't be so hateful. I am an arab from Syria and I am an atheist...many of us Syrians despise Hamas and terrorism. In many points we disagree with Israel but concerning terrorism and jihadism we are all in the same boat. We arabs are just as human as you are.
OperationSaveSyria 1 month ago
@OperationSaveSyria Very true. There are even many examples of peaceful Jewish-Muslim marriages in Israel and elsewhere. It is a natural human desire to want to live a peaceful life without hatred and violence.
Fuzzycop 1 month ago
so when is EuroPEON media and even American media going to show this kind of crap Hamas pulls, and then expects us to feel sorry for these hateful bastard islamists?
JohnMichaels20 2 years ago 4
JohnMichaels20,
no body knows...maybe just like the holocaust...they didnt reported it untill 6million jews ware killed.
maybe the waiting something similar...
because boobytrapped school and a zoo with ppl going there everyday is not much news...
and yeah im being sarcastic.
adir999 2 years ago 3
Israel a light among darkness !
1nizza 2 years ago 17
look at the west bank, israel is controlling it but it is really controlled by fatah. if israel were to conquer gaza and bring in fatah to maintain control, it to can live in peace, the enemy is not israel, nor palistine, nor the arab countries but hamas. FREE GAZA FROM HAMAS (in am a orthodox jew)
aviv22234 3 years ago 10
Was this the same zoo that Hamas filmed the Pioneer of Tomorrow episode were the guy in a bumble bee costume tortured some felines? (see watch?v=_ExZVimjST8)
redelman 3 years ago
cut the head of the snake... come on out Haniyeh you coward - the whole world wants a word with you - you slinking weasel.. we will find you just like saddam hussein...you too Nasrallah big mouth shut now huh ! and Meshaal you baby killer twisted SOAB i long for the day the missile cam footage shows it right up to the moment it goes down yr throat. Hamas your Games is up.. The internet saw to that and the truth is out about yr stage-shows. Where's Iran eh ?? Left you out to dry
astaroth418 3 years ago
Iran would obliterate Israel in a second if it wasnt for the fact its the 51st state of America. By the way why is there no missile cams for any on the 300 children that have been massacred by Israel so far?
I disagree with hamas firing rockets but israels response is, under official UN resolutions, a warcrime. The world knows exactly what israel is doing so stop hiding behind the facade of blaming one or two hamas extreemists for the israeli slaughter of innocent children
RayHinkel 3 years ago
You live in a dream world RayHinkel.7000 rockets in 8 years into civilian areas is one or two extremists - hahahahah your sooooo funny dude.Iran is a pathetic backward nation who happen to have oil.Israel has the right to live in peace.And if they are armed by the US sooooo what! Jealous of the fact? And why should you want a nation wiped out? The world now sees the TRUTH on the internet.Israel dropped leaflets and phoned the houses so the children and civilians had plenty time to leave
astaroth418 3 years ago 2
IT IS NEVER A WAR CRIME TO SHOT AT HAMAS EVEN IF IT ALSO KILLS 1000 CIVILIANS. THE WARCRIME IS TO HIDE AMONG 1000 CIVILIANS. ALL BLAME IS TO HAMAS! Israel has the right to not getting shoot at and they have the absolut right to do what ever they have to do to stop it as long there targets are only military. And that is what 100% of ÍDF targets are. In opposit to hamas that have civilians (arabs also) as the target. The response is very very fair. Sweden is talking!
niklasbrandin 3 years ago 4
The media isn't "all pro-Israel". They aren't all anti-Israel, I'm not about to say that. But what you say isn't true, either. Even CNN, an american program (google it to view reports) isn't pro OR contra. They are showing both kinds of reports. And that's when USA actually support Israel.
Anyway, being "chosen" has nothing to do with it. I don't like religion playing into politics in any case. But protecting your family, your citizens, that's important.
Torik0 3 years ago
Why is it that I remember Israelis actualy saying things like "f*ck them, this land was ours long before the Arabs ever came there, and it is our right to take it back, even if it means killing them all" in the comments on youtube, and now suddenly it has become self-defence? Just asking, don't get me wrong.
eidotevil 3 years ago
Erm... because there are idiots everywhere, even in Israel?
Agression never stays on one side, it's very contagious. Obviously, there are going to be some, who, after watching some reports on exploding school busses and teeny-discotheks, are going to forget, that you can't blame every arab or muslim. Except in Israel that's the minority, in the arab world the majority seems to blame all jews/israelis. I guess they're the only ones allowed to talk. I wonder, why.
Torik0 3 years ago
Look, I live in the Netherlands, and the TV here is so pro-Israel that they go as far as saying things like: "well these palestinians, they make an elefant of a fly, and if needed, they will even play some theater to get attention.". I don't think that this is reality, and I know that the media of most countries in europe and elsewhere do the same. Even al-jazeera does things like that, and it is a bit unfair to say that only the anti-Israel's-imperialism voice is heard. That's not true at all.
eidotevil 3 years ago
No, you're right, that's not true. There are media supporting both sides pretty much everywhere, though this is the first time I'm hearing about al-jazeera in this context.
In any case, people dying is never a fly. But sometimes, horrible as it is, war can't be avoided. You can't expect a country to let it's citizens be terrorised on a daily basis for years upon years, all for the sake of peace.
Those rockets, even if they rarely hit anything, are still psychological torture.
Torik0 3 years ago
Well yes, but what about the even greater psychological torture, and physical as well, of the palestinian people? I mean, ok, they voted for hamas because they are afraid of the , in their eyes, conquerors, the state of Israel. They are only human as well, and to tell you the truth, arabs have been keeping quite far too long about these issues.
eidotevil 3 years ago
Blaming the population in Gaza is not really the point here. The point is - at war, people always suffer. But you can't expect a country not to defend itself. As you said, everyone is human. Don't expect Israel to become a mertyr state for peace in the arab world. You can expect them to try and keep civil casualties to a minimum, but even that's not going to work, if the opposing government is looking for those casualties to happen.
Torik0 3 years ago
Couldn't you say the oposite as well? That hamas are actually trying to do the same as what the IDF is doing? Defending their country from "Israeli Imperialism"? Why is it that Israel is defending itself whereas hamas are offending, and could it not be that hamas are defending Palestine while Israel is in offence?
eidotevil 3 years ago
Erm... first off, let's start where the hamas is actually looking for civil victims and the death of everyone in Israel, while Israel is looking to avoid such casualties on the other side as much as possible.
Israel's policy does not say "kill all arabs".
Israel wasn't occupying anything anymore, either, yet the hamas still wanted to destroy Israel and kill all jews.
Terrorists even killed jewish people who did not live in Israel, had nothing to do with it.
Can you REALLY compare those two?
Torik0 3 years ago
To tell you the truth, I have seen a video once where a hamas official was saying that the only thing they wanted, was their homes to live in, which means, the Jews out of at least what remains of Palestine. I don't think that this is such a bad thing to want, is it?
eidotevil 3 years ago
From what I've gathered, the occupation of Palestina ended with Gaza.
In any case, Israel is where it is. Most people went there with no thoughts to religion or politics, just for a home. Whoever you kick out, nothing you do is gonna be fair.
Yet, a diplomatic agreement had been reached, a chance for peace and recovery appeared for everyone. Then, the new government of Gaza destroyed it before it could blossom by declaring the destruction of Israel as an official goal.
Torik0 3 years ago 2
Well, I don't know about the last thing you said since I have not seen it personally, but I'd be more than happy if you could send me a link to such a video or document saying this in a personal message.
eidotevil 3 years ago
I just sent you a media report. If you want to research it further, I think you can do it quite well on your own.
Torik0 3 years ago
Thanks.
eidotevil 3 years ago
What I meant by "they're the only ones allowed to talk" wasn't "the media is anti-Israel", I meant that, well, look at youtube. There's hardly anyone who is defending Palestina, but at the same time condemning those rockets, or at least showing regret over the suffering they cause.
One little girl from Gaza said "I blame the hamas" on a live telivision broadcast by the Hamas and the broadcast was instantly interrupted. Honestly? I'm very worried over what happened to that girl ands her family.
Torik0 3 years ago
Look, I'm getting your point, and I hate to say, but I don't realy like those hamas guys anyway, but what about Israel shutting the borders and letting no journalists in and anyone out? I don't justify what hamas do, but is what Israel does any better?
eidotevil 3 years ago
Well, during the Hesbala war, the media was one thing the Hesbala used for strategy. They sent in reporters, who were to show live footage on the Israeli moves, then used that information for their own strategy. Israel was bound to learn from experience.
As for closing borders, well, so did Egypt. Really, any country would close it's borders if the chosen government had "destroy said country" as an official goal. There's nothing abnormal about that, even if the consequences for Gaza are bad.
Torik0 3 years ago
You mean shutting the borders of your enemies? Not even food or water is getting in. I have heard from people I know that the doctors there even had to use curtains as bandages because of there being no medical supplies.
eidotevil 3 years ago
Israel IS sending in humanitarian aid, you know. It may not be enough, but, really. Where's all that international financial aid going? Ah, yes, spent on rockets by the government.
If the arab world, or the world in general, really wants to save those people, the Hamas NEEDS to be removed and they are not leaving peacefully. Otherwise, there will never be an economy or infrastructure, ever, because all money will be put into military, and the international world isn't going to feed them forever.
Torik0 3 years ago
I have heard that it was not hamas that broke the last cease-fire truce, rather Israel, and that hamas responded to that. What's your opinion or knowledge on this issue? By the way, I was just reading an article on Yahoo! News about Egypt convincing hamas on a 10 day cease-fire.
eidotevil 3 years ago
All I heard on part one were some very obscure comments on youtube, by people, who were screaming "kill jews". I would need to hear more about that first. In Any case, when there is an official ceasefire going on, you try to solve things deplomatically, not with rockets. Israel didn't retaliate for the rockets until the ceasefire was over and gave plenty of warnings to stop, after all.
As for the second part, what's a 10 day cease-fire supposed to accomplish? Now, if they managed a total one...
Torik0 3 years ago
A 10 day cease-fire can accomplish 10 days of negotiating on a permanent cease-fire. The truce holds that for these 10 days, Israeli troops will be patroling Gaza, and hamas have accepted their part, although Israel is not sure about it yet, since they don't know what the reaction of hamas will be if Israeli troops will be staying in Gaza for 10 whole days. I hope this cease-fire will get both sides to a good result, but if Israel refuses, God knows what will happen.
eidotevil 3 years ago
Well, if it's really gonna work, I'll be cheering.
Torik0 3 years ago
By the way, this conflict didn't start last week. I still remember Israel bulldozing houses and farms of Palestinian people, and doing other things which are pretty much inhumane. Anyhow, let's hope for the best for both sides...
eidotevil 3 years ago
Yes it started 1921 when the arabs started to kill jews all over the middle east . And it started again 1947 one year before Israel even existed when arabs drove a truck full of explosives in to civilian jews and blow them up. This is the same war as the arabs started and it have never stopped.
niklasbrandin 3 years ago 2
Don't confuse them with facts now.
samael1981 2 years ago
In fact, you get to see people in Israel, who openly say that they're against that war, which is causing suffering in Gaza, even though they themselves live on the south border. Noone kills them for it, or shuts them up. Meet democracy.
On the other hand we have arabs, who say "only zionists are bad, destroy Isreal" and call this "being objective". Meanwhile, they forget all the people INSIDE Israel, who are suicidally pacifistic. That's not objective, just plain old "divide and conquer".
Torik0 3 years ago
You made your point and I agree that some Arabs are idiots as well, but isn't it unfair that the media is so fanaticaly pro-Israel? I have said in other comments of other videos that I personally love jewish people, their culture, and their religion, but this is no excuse for some of them getting all arrogant about it. Ok, being the chosen people of God, but does that justify the actions of their country?
eidotevil 3 years ago
Oh, by the way, I've written a comment on this, that became a general comment, instead of an answer to you, by accident.
Torik0 3 years ago
Oh, if so, I don't see it anywhere.
eidotevil 3 years ago
It's the last comment on the "show all comments" page.
Torik0 3 years ago
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"Meanwhile,they forget all the people INSIDE Israel,who are suicidally pacifistic"
Im sorry but you seem to forget the fact that the Israeli government is voted for in large part for their stance on military policy. I wont agrue against the fact there are some israelis who disagree with their governments disproportionate response in this case but dont try and hide the fact the majority of israelis are resolutely behind this operation and have no scrupples about the death of innocent civilians
RayHinkel 3 years ago
RayHinkel:
1) Isn't the same argument used by some extremist Israelis for why all the people in Gaza "should" be killed?
"The majority there voted for Hamas, Hamas is fiering rockets into Israel, so the people in Gaza all deserve to die and let's forget avoiding civilian casualties"? Don't go to a place you don't want to end up at.
2) Standing behind the military operation is not the same as having no scrupels. If you have defend yourself, it doesn't mean you want to kill the other person.
Torik0 3 years ago
Sickening, Really! Best regards to Israel and its soldiers taking care of this mess once and for all...The rest of the world is watching, and the longer they see things like this the more they will understand!
There is a reason no other Arab nations are getting involved...they all deal with this themselves in their own countries..They understand Israel's position!
Jeffersxxl 3 years ago
"There is a reason no other Arab nations are getting involved they all deal with this themselves in their own countries..They understand Israel's position"
Dont you know anything about the political situation in the middle east? Arab nations arent getting involved ONLY because Israel is protected by the United States. Israel would not exist without otherwise.
RayHinkel 3 years ago
Ha all arabcountry exept Syria and Iran (not arabs) are supporting Israel against Hamas. Not against the palestins because noone are agains the people (not Israel who sad yes to a free palestin already in 1948).
niklasbrandin 3 years ago 2
Israel forever! Read the prophets and you will see! Yes soon the World will come against, but G_D Himself will show Himself strong on Israel behalf! Never will removed again!
Gdisnumber1 3 years ago
Gaza itself is one big zoo!
redelman 3 years ago 4
Yeah no kidding... I mean do pro-Israel or Zionist don't understand that?
samergdesigner 3 years ago
Its very sad to see that no one in the world (outside of Israel, who gives nearly 100% of their water, food, electiricty, ect..) really cares about the lives of the Palistains. If people did, they would support the end of hamas, and the reinstatment of Fatah and Abbas, who are not fireing rockets or sending bombers into Israel right now, and are building up infasturcter and ecomony
doodles613 3 years ago 2
Its so sick to see the truth come out and people still put 100% of the blaim on Israel. REGUARDLESS of which "side" you take, hamas is far worse to the people of gaza then Israel has ever been. They use all their money to bulid up arms and bombs instade of economy and infastructure. Its sick that people would even think to support hamas after we are finally seeing what they are really doing. We have all suspected this kind of behavior, especally in lebanon, but here is the smoking gun...
doodles613 3 years ago 2
Some people don't see facts, they see what they want to see. I'm sick and tired of repeating the same thing over and over. Denying the truth won't make it go away. The only way to help the people in Gaza is to either remove, or reform Hamas. This so called government has been declared a terrosorst group by the international community, for god's sake! That didn't happen because they are cuddly teddybears who love kids.
Israel cannot open it's borders to an area governed by suicide bombers!
Torik0 3 years ago 3
KIll the palis and take the land back..theres no other way to take care of the pali problem..otyher wise ya gonna be fighting them for ever
yaiknowscrewme 3 years ago
Hamas has not hidden its objective of destroying Israel. It has conducted a three-year terror war since Israel's evacuation of Gaza, which followed the five-year Palestinian Intifada that claimed more than 1,000 Israeli lives. No country would show the degree of restraint that Israel exhibited as its cities were rocketed.
At the first sign of danger,the leaders of Hamas typically run and hide.Their bravery extends to sending young disciples to become martyrs and using the rest of the population
rafibodill 3 years ago
Hamas should go to HELL for massacring their own women and children. Only idiots and anti-semites believe Hamas's B.S.!
Only Israel could stop them.
FIGHT TERROR SUPPORT ISRAEL!!!!
cantfindanameilike 3 years ago
If I was living in Gaza and Israel was cutting off our oil, water and food supplies I would be firing rockets myself. Not to mention the fact Israel threw my family off its land in 1948 killing thousands.
Anyone who agrees with Iraels indiscriminate killing of innocent children would ironically have made a good nazi. This is genocide and everyone knows it. This video is pure propaganda at its most vile. Gaza we support you
RayHinkel 3 years ago
Actually, Israel supplies food, gas, and electricity to Gaza. When they are fighting they cut of the supply. Do you know of any other country that needs to supply energy to their enemy? Only Israel. Let Egypt supply them. It is ironic of how the Arabs sided with the Nazis during world war 2, and now they are being compared to the Jews. Funny.
According to your logic. Eveyone who was relocated from India and Pakistan when they split, should also become suicide bombers.
anon1m0us 3 years ago 4
Israel have consistently deprived Gaza of oil and gas over the last few years. Its reached critical levels at times and power outages are common place causing water contamination and complete societal breakdown. Its not newsworthy though.
You seem to forget that israel is not self sufficient. It is subsidized by america. Gaza is prevented from receiving unauthorised foreign subsidy by israels control of its airspace and coastline. Israel have them exatly where they want them, helpless prisoners
RayHinkel 3 years ago
Israel owes Gaza NOTHING... And Sorry Gaza has a border with Egypt so try blaming Egypt for the prison you wrongly claim. No rockets=peace=aid. The Gazans VOTED for Hamas, Voted for War against Israel, so stop bleating when it comes.
astaroth418 3 years ago 4
Israel owes gaza nothing? How about freedom or more to the point the possibility of freedom? Does Egypt control Gaza's airspace and coastline? Dont you realise Egypt is backed into a corner politically because it cant override US sanctioning of UN resolutions that would otherwise allow Egypts direct involvment in Gaza? You obviously know very little about the situation so stop posting comments to diliberately mislead people.
RayHinkel 3 years ago
complete rubbish.. no rockets=peace=aid=freedom. My hard earned taxes go via the UK government to the lazy Gazans more bent on weapons and destruction than in building a viable infrastructure. I read just as much as you and have just as much knowledge to make my own decision. Go Israel and UK government send the Gazans Fuck All. Im sick of paying taxes towards these death cult wierdo's with more children than even I in a first world economy can afford.
astaroth418 3 years ago
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what a moron.........obviously this is beyond u and cant debate shit, playing the same old record , learn something about the world outside of your cloistered little zionist utopian existence, dipshit
NoMatch2Me 3 years ago
evidently a terrorist sympathiser. wear a nice bright uniform wanker so the IDF cant miss. keep away from kids and women too. first of all I am not a jew, nor do i live in utopia. I live in the same world as you, and know the difference between a terrorist organisation and a legitimate sovereign army. also both the jews and the gazans have a right to live in peace. but both hebollah and Hamas do not want this (yet) ok. Take yr blinkers off and remove yr head from yr arse.
astaroth418 3 years ago 4
freedom comes when they stop violence. the palestin decide there own freedom with there veapons. they have only themself to blame, because any country in the world would do exaktly the same as Israel.
niklasbrandin 3 years ago 2
"If I was living in Gaza and Israel was cutting off our oil, water and food supplies I would be firing rockets myself" - that's the regular muslim way of dealing with the situation. I have a proposal - go get a job, imbecile, rockets won't bring you any food. I'd better be a "nazi" (as you prefer to call rational people) than a lazy, stupid muslim prick.
ExClUr 3 years ago
Rational? Tell me whats rational about the slaughter of innocent children under the pretence of defence? Whats rational about the subjugation of over 1 million people who are about as autonomous as poland was in 1939.
I have a proposal for you - take an objective look at all the facts, grow a conscience and lose the disgusting prejudice that renders everything you say pointless and unimportant. Your pushing the cause for ignorant morons everywhere, fucking simpleton
RayHinkel 3 years ago
There's definitely nothing rational about repeating to you simple axioms since you keep telling us your sophisticated mumbo jumbo with twisted facts. I will no longer waste my time on self-deluded cretins like yourself. Nothing will ever change, anyway. You were born as an infantile moron and you will die as one.
ExClUr 3 years ago
"Well, considering the fact that UN covers muslim asses and is eager to fall for every lie they say I'd believe ANYONE but UN and muslim media."
Did UN stop Israel from massacring people in Lebanon? NO
Did UN stop Israel from massacring people in Gaza? NO
Did UN give statements against injustice and human rights violation? YES
US has vetoed 40+ UN resolutions against Israel. Guess which countries UN resolutions were used to attack? Iraq and Afghanistan.
optimistsRUS 3 years ago
UN helped terrorists in Lebanon strategically and provisionally. UN ambulances are being used for weapons, explosives and terrorists transporting. UN KNOWS that palestinian extremists keep explosives in schools and hospital and do nothing about it, and when something detonates and palestinians claim that Israel is responsible UN is the first there to believe them and bark against Israel. But when the truth is revealed and acknowledged (usually by UN's silence) UN doesn't even apologize.
ExClUr 3 years ago
IF the IDF is given more time could exterminate hamas in gaza.
USCTrojansOwn 3 years ago 2
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Sorry Israel, I'm not buying it. It's clear that this is propaganda, any fool can see that. And the soldier said they got out "in time"? Surely that detonator would have easily been triggered if they had been in the building. Makes. No. Sense. If an INDEPENDENT observer had been allowed to report this, I might have believed it. And anyway, Israel can hardly get on a high horse about bombing schools, can it? No, not when they're massacreing the Gaza children with aforethought every single day.
bazookaben 3 years ago
"And the soldier said they got out "in time"? Surely that detonator would have easily been triggered if they had been in the building"
Do you think this is all new to them? They've been putting up with stuff like this for years.
HungryFeeling 3 years ago
Thanks bazookaben, there are naive people out there who think that Israel is right, UN is wrong, Red Cross is wrong, Red Crescent is wrong, Be't Selem (Israeli Human rights organization) is wrong, HRW, Amnesty are wrong.
Only Israel is the true source of information, yeah right.
Israel expels Richard Falk (Jewish American), UN Rights envoy from Gaza because he raised concerns about Israeli actions that might amount to war crimes acc to Geneva convention: youtube[.]com/watch?v=bkF1XxdXQFc
optimistsRUS 3 years ago
Here is clear evidence of a simple explosive switch with a wire attached to it going to a bulding. Hizbollah (the lebonese chapter of the muslim brotherhood) was cited and proved to repedetly blow up buldings in lebanon long after Isreali shelling had ceased in that area, prior to filling them with bodies from the moruge. This is just more proof of the already known methods that these groups use. If the world really cared about plastians, they would remove hamas and put fatah back in.
doodles613 3 years ago 3
where are all the animal protectors? and the children rights organizations?
palestinians dont value their own children's lives, neither their lives or animal lives!!
they beleive in death while judaism is all about life- l'chaim!
am1blev1 3 years ago 3
look up farfur.
KDP3200 3 years ago 3
A very interesting question i have read. They show us mothers mourning their death children. How is it possible that mothers aren`t hurt when the children are kille? Are mothers not there to protect their children? Or, more probably, are those "deaths" only staged?
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ExClUr 3 years ago 3
Reposting my reply:
How would you protect your children if an Israeli bomb kills them while they are at the school? 40 innocents died in the Israeli attack on a UN school. Isrealis claim that it was being used for gunfire, UN says the school was not used for such activity. You be the judge.
optimistsRUS 3 years ago
All normal nations close schools at times like this. I'm not even sure now there were children at all. That's how it usually happens: Israeli missile hits a pal. school (when no one's there) and it explodes with secondary explosions (guess why). Then hamas claims that dozens of kids were killed and injured while PALESTINIAN medical society arrives and finds NO bodies. It happened many times like that but I guess imbeciles like you cannot be convinced of pali lies repeated constantly.
ExClUr 3 years ago
Palistain whitnesses were cited in nearly every AP article I read as saying that Hamas gunman fired from near or arround the school, then ran into the croud of people for cover. These are eye whitness accounts comming from people who are there in an Associate Press report. Not exactally your bias news sorces, or at least not in favor of Israel.
doodles613 3 years ago 3
Staged deaths? What the hell is wrong with you? There are plenty of women dying with their children but obviously there are going to be lots of cases where one or the other dies. The debrit that results from a missile is projected at random you moron. How can you possibly make such a stupid remark?
You are the equivalent to a Holocaust denier.
RayHinkel 3 years ago
Pali women and children mostly die while being used as a human shield. Palestinian extremists are launching missiles from crowded civil ares, thus provoking Israeli strike on the launching systems. Hamas then uses their deads against Israelis as if it was not their (palestinian, that is) fault. Of course there is a few who died accidentally, things like that happen when there's a war. Bombs have no eyes. If hamas fought properly civilian deads would be much lower. But they just don't care.
ExClUr 3 years ago
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A very interesting question i have read . They show us mothers mourning their death children . How is it possible that mothers aren`t hurt when the children are killed ? Are mothers not there to protect their children ? Or , more probably , are those "deaths" only staged ?
pinetree1973 3 years ago 3
How would you protect your children if an Israeli bomb kills them while they are at the school? 40 innocents died in the Israeli attack on a UN school. Isrealis claim that it was being used for gunfire, UN says the school was not used for such activity. You be the judge.
optimistsRUS 3 years ago
Well, considering the fact that UN covers muslim asses and is eager to fall for every lie they say I'd believe ANYONE but UN and muslim media. UN has already been proven to be very... helpful in transporting weapons and terrorists in Palestine. UN ambulances with weapons inside is no news in gaza. It is is easily bribed... and scared.
ExClUr 3 years ago 2
This is not right for the people to live in terror.
KaraStyler 3 years ago 7
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A video from Israeli Zionist source showing explosives being removed by Israelis from a school, what does it prove?
optimistsRUS 3 years ago
Moron.
Dangerous1231 3 years ago 2
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You are the moron. Who planted the explosives? Where is that shown in this video?
optimistsRUS 3 years ago
So you are saying that Israelis planted those explosives? Interesting point of view, a bit predictably judeaphobic, though.
Do you know how I determine who did what? Logic, deduction, ability to learn from history. Muslims, especially palestinians, are known for their agitations, propaganda and lies. If this video doesn't prove it many others do. Israelis have always been victims of those lies and despite everything never used it as a weapon by themselves. You simply ignore facts, primate.
ExClUr 3 years ago 6
Unfortunately youtube doesnt allow us to post URL's in the replies; I found a video the other day from a Hamas media broadcast in which they admit to and brag about using human shields.
phrawgg2 3 years ago 7
Why am I not surprised that Hamas would jeopardize the lives of these poor animals? We already know that they do it with their own children!
JerrySPsy 3 years ago 7