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  • 0:40 wonder what happened to this geek ?

  • @eezy1972 Don't know but I don't think there have been any women or children involved...

  • so sad ;(

    dnt think anyone filmed in between the deltic blowing its horn and hst arriving blowing the hst horn set aload of booooooos wish someone filmed that lol deltics are the best uk diesels by far ;)

  • A technical clarification please from someone.

    The sheer power (and of course the sound) of the twin Napier Deltic impresses me.

    However, it is a diesel-electric loco.

    How much diesel engine power is needed to create the electricity needed for the traction motors for a full range of speeds when hauling a full load of coaches?

    Florianska6

  • @florianska6 Well... it depends on how much power you want from the traction motors! ;-) A generator powering motors is about 80% efficient, so 3300 engine hp provides about 2600 hp "at the rail".

    At low speeds, the tractive effort (pulling force) is limited by other things, such as the design of the traction motors and the weight of the loco. At higher speeds, the loco can run at constant power, so tractive effort decreases as the speed increases.

  • @ttjph

    Many thanks for both clarification responses.

    Much appreciated.

    florianska6

  • @florianska6 The power you "need" depends on how fast you want to accelerate those coaches, or how fast you want to haul them up a gradient. A 37 (1750 hp) and a Deltic (3300 hp) could both start ten or twelve coaches - in fact the 37 has slightly more tractive effort so should accelerate faster from a standing start - but the Deltic would reach 90 mph much more quickly.

    The engine, generator and traction motors all need to be matched together to work well.

  • good grief i remember watching this on tv!!!!!! I also remember the man rubbing his head against the engine at the end of the report 1m19sec. I love trains. But that's - kinda odd.

  • Do A search for "Baby Deltic" and see the new Beast being unleashed at Barrow Hill 8-)

  • wouldent it be good if network rail baught up som deltics and used them for track maintanance and measurement trains shame theyre gone

  • D9000 has been painted onto the RSG recently.

  • Deltic call up for service, according to BBC news, tis morning.

  • kissing the side of that fucking deltic, fuck me what a sado.

  • @cutterschoicenotmine Clearly had not list his virginity then lol

  • @Hartsock91 don't get me wrong, heritage traction is great, but kissing the side of a fucking engine thats just gone all the way up to scotland, nah!

  • @cutterschoicenotmine. that's not sad at all.. i'd have fucked it up its exhaust pipes.

  • It's hard to believe that was just over 30 years ago, have I been on the railway that long, OMG I am a British Rail dinosaur.

  • as we all noticed, it wasnt the same deltic. Tulyar went out, Royal scots grey returned. This actually means that Delly 15 is to this day still stuck in Scotland.....

  • Mr Simon Lilley. Wherever you are..

    Thanks for giving us good cheer..

    All the best..

  • @Lytton333 My pleasure.

  • The final arrival into King's Cross sounds like the horn blown to tell the trolls to open the Black Gate (Lord of the Rings - Two Towers)

  • So pleased to have found this. I saw 55015 at Sandy on the final northbound run as a 12 year old. Of course it was 55022 arriving at Kings Cross on the final train, although the report didn't seem to make that clear.

  • I like their use of the phrase "railway spotters", their getting a bit mixed-up between "train spotter" and "railway enthusiast" I think. It sort of proves the attitude that the media have always had to those of us who are interested in trains.

  • These were capable of 120 mph when new, but certainly not rated for it, you'd kill the traction motors

  • thank you for sharing this video with us my dad told me stories at the amount of people waiting to to see the last deltic arriving at the stations especially at kings cross i only ever got to see a picture of the last deltic at kings cross.my dad said it was a very sad day that day as he was the last passenger guard to work from york to kings cross

  • A Great Story! And, to see that man kiss the Locomotive: Priceless!

    Nice to know some some Deltics have not been scrapped!

    Cheers!

  • Well, They're wonderful, They're uncomfortable, very noisy, but you've got extreme power at the end of your hands...........you know you're gonna get there....;)....spot on !!!!!!!! Engineering on this sort of scale isn't really seen these days.....

  • Time flies eh!!!! Jon Snow looks a tad younger in this..........in comparison, looks like he's worked a longer shift than the deltic(s)!!!...lol....

  • the deltics should never have gone

  • I think that young lad summed it up well, and his last line, "THATS why theyre special" really strikes a chord. This is a great news clip to see, Ive never come accross it before, so thanks to the poster.... But it was surely a very sad day for the railways of Britain.

  • 0:42, he sounds like dot cotton! lol

  • @Calibra5 I wish Deltecs were on the tracks forever. Deltecs are one of my favourite locos in the world.

  • Bob Fraser is the lad kissing the engine nose, or so I believe

  • 0:42 what freak lol :S

  • The Hitler salutes are called flailing!

  • Great kid @ 0.42 Seems to me kids nowadays remain unimpressed about just about everything, but then the decline in British indusry might have something to do with that.

  • @kevinabalo88 not me!!!!!!

  • Must have been a sad day, would be great if they did a news report when/if DBS do away with the 60's, but that aint going to happen

  • The napier engines were 18 cylinders each 36 cylinders in total NOT 72 LOL !! i think you should research yourself before coming on you tube lol

  • You know I have the feeling that the Deltics are more popular now than they were in the 70s. Marvellous film though, shame it was such a wet miserable day.

  • I just have to laugh at some of the comments on this video, at the end of the day, each to their own, and let folk do as they please instead of taking to mickey or criticising!

  • Great video! look at how young Jon Snow looks.

    Why were the trainspotters doing Hitler salutes? Was it aimed at the British Rail guards?

  • I was just wondering where that kid is now who explained why they are special 0:42

  • @Bevoin1970

    I'm here!! Reading your comments.

  • @simonlilley Wow!! :-))

  • @Bevoin1970 A few years older know than then of course.Interesting to read some of what people have said

  • Not being a spotter myself, yet as I have lived close to a railway tracks for much of my life, Im beginning to wish I'd taken more notice of these machines now when they were around.

    Great clip of film. :-)

  • Look at Peter Snow, 'kin' 'ell!

  • @Cooperail In all the excitement I should have said Jon Snow!

  • 1:19... am i rightt thinking hes going over the top just a little?

  • Brilliant machine.

    Deltics forever!

  • Reckon we will get this send off for the Pacers?

  • @24nov67, Ooops! sorry my bad!!! He IS right! But he is a little........!!

  • Only knew them by way of books, from over here in California. Appreciate that fellow on his knees kissing the filthy thing. Curious, "The King is dead Long live the King," you Blokes take that rather seriously I see! Stil, I'vel been to visit your NRM and the A4's on several occasions. Don't know how I would have felt IF I lived in the U.K. and realizing these "evil machines" had replaced EC Mainline Steam!

  • The lad @ 01:18, Deltics had 18 cylinders in all,not 36,get it right you little........!!!!!

  • No he's right it did have 36 cylinders in total, remember the deltic was powered by TWO napier deltic two stroke marine engines both of which had eighteen cylinders and 36 pistons (72 pistons combined). So research your information more accurately before posting your comments on youtube.

  • @DiddlyDom 18 cylinders in each engine. Two engines in each loco that makes 36. I did get it right

  • @simonlilley Yep you sure did!!

  • and you know ya gonna get there

  • extreme power at the end of your hand - ohhh er mrs

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  • i think some may love deltics a bit to much....

    at the end

  • Great locos though.

  • @andyg3 I have to agree. Kissing the loco was a bit too much.

  • Can't imagine this sort of farewell for Voyagers, can you? They're cramped, the doors trap you, they're unbearably hot when the air con fails (which is often) and the toilets stink. Scrap'em!!! Do it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @EastMidlandsSteam Inconsiderate cunt if i ever met you id twat you one square in the nuts Pfft kids nowa days :P

  • 1:25 Hellfire!! 80's style!

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  • Bloke at 0:31 ... Norman Stanley Fretcher

  • I wonder if the stoaty lad at 01.18 has been with a lady yet.

  • @CrumpPinett Lol! got your new gas cooker yet?

  • WTF are all the raised arms about ? is this some kind of Nazi reunion?

  • I've always wondered why?... lol

  • flailing

  • woah! i got goosebumps even though i was around in that era

  • Len Smith!!! He never made the tea but a KX tin-pot god nonetheless.

  • "3300 horse power, with 18 cylinders an engine and 2 engines, that's 36 cylinders - that's why they're special". No, big hair, scruffy parker and talking to the news at 10 about Deltics - that's you YOU'RE special!

  • @rickskateboard It wasnt a parker. Wish it had been, I got soaked going to FP afterwards. Still it was worth it.

  • I make that a MEGA MEGA 11 TONE!!!!!! AWESOME VID!!

  • god there some weardos there, specially that guy kissing it.. But lovely locos

  • i wouldnt kiss it but it sends goos bumps

  • As a kid I was dragged by a friend to go trainspotting and see one of these. I was hooked instantly when I saw and heard it. That sound reverbearted in your chest and you could hear it long before you saw it. Happy happy days

  • i like a nice day out on the train, but im not sad enough to get down and kiss one.

    id get cramp anyway!

  • Also notice at the end of this the vintage ITN music Non Stop which was also withdrawn in 1982.

  • Is that David Walliams at 43sec ?

  • No its Simon Lilley

  • Mecrazy

    It's spelled tetanus, you berk, and why come on here to laugh at something that is relatively harmless and millions of people enjoy. Liking a locomotive is no different to following a football team, which I do as well, and the teenager is probably far nicer than some idiot who goes around TWOCing cars.

  • Possibly more than 3 or 4 miles I grew up beside Chester-le-St station (ECML) and as a kid I used to lie in bed at the dead of night listening to Deltics coming from Durham or Newcastle. Seemed like you could hear them for ages before they powered through.

    Again as a kid standing on the station bridge you could hear them coming and our excitement built up until they rounded the southern bend or hurtled over the viaduct from the north.

    Happy, simple and carefree memories. Thanks for posting

  • That the idling speed of the Napier engines in the Deltics (750rpm) is the same as the full power speed of the Sulzer engine in the Class 47...and that they could be heard for three or four miles on full power...and that they often smoked like steam engines...and that they could do 110mph effortlessly...all this made them special as well.

  • ok, if the hsts were to be withdrawn, i would NEVER do wat the guy @ the end did

  • I remember this. The bloke at the end kissing the loco and sinking to his knees just gives spotters a bad name. What a fucking geek.

  • haha! i hope he gets tetnis

  • lol, sum people have an extreme passion for things, he may have embarrassed him self on national television but a passion for something doesn't make you a geek.

  • a deltic just sat at idle would throb more than a gm at full power.THATS why they were special...

  • little did they know that around 15 years later they would run on main line again. DELTICS RULE

  • And for a short time on service trains and ocassionally, service trains on the ECML. 5th Dec 1998 was the date I remember.

  • Until the bloody Health & Safety policy removed the use of the heritage diesels on service trains.

  • I watching remember this as a kid. Christ im 39 now!

  • Why? I was 16 at the time.

  • lol!

  • the good old days.something tells me that the pendilinos will be on national news when they bow out.huh will anyone even notice,dont think im to keen on "progress"

  • sorry will not be on national news!

  • I think the HSTs definitely will. They're too important to go unnoticed. Plus they have had a much more demanding and varied life than the Deltics ever had. And I think they are much better-known.

    For one thing. how many large British fleets have had their engines replaced to run for another 10-15 years? The Deltics only lasted 20, yet the HSTs went on with Valentas for 32 years and have another 10 years left with new engines.

  • @bwhugul The deltics were not replaced because they were worn out,. It was because they were a non-standard design with their 2-stroke opposed piston engines.. the HST was faster and of a more conventional design, and could go for longer periods before reconditioning became necessary so made the deltic pretty much reduntant, particularly as rail passenger numbers had been in free fall since the '50s.

    at least one group is planning to preserve a valenta equipped HST set

  • Great to see this again - I did have it on video but the tape broke. And how about 27 years on both Jon Snow and Nicholas Glass are still working together on Channel 4 News!

  • The Diesel engines actually only drive the generators though don't they, I believe it is Electric motors that actually do all the hard work isn't it?

  • @tog1957 yes that's correct. a conventional transmission would not work on something this size and power

  • Would have been nice to meet that guy who knew his stuff at the beginning of the video!

  • Do you mean the driver or the young rail enthusiast? If the latter thats no problem.

  • I meant the young enthusiast (Of course he wont be young now)

  • I'm not young unless being 43 is young, so why do you want to meet me then?

    Regards

    Simon

    (The young enthusiast)

  • Ah cool! Im a big fan of the Deltic and you sure knew your stuff!

  • Thank you very much.Not something I brag about. I know a bit about loco classes as well!!

  • I like the Deltics but I wouldnt have had a clue about all its components but ive got plenty of years ahead to learn!

  • You certainly did know your technical stuff. It wouldn't surprise me if you are an authority on Deltics now.

    The Deltics caused a big stir here when they transferred over to the Newcastle - Liverpool Trans Pennine route.

  • i was still in my pram but love these locos..rip pinza, nimbus etc.

  • God Bless Leonard Smith! That man is a gent

  • "Well they're wonderful...they're uncomfortable, very noisy"

    fucking brilliant!

  • Is it just me or does this seem like another world?

  • any1 got the footage where the hst rolled side next to the deltic and fans booing hst when hst was blowing horn? lol

  • BEAST

  • Yeah, just hope it doesn't get a horrible make over again, like those new style lights, which it once carried and which DRS seem to be a fan of judging by the appearance of they're class 20's and 37's! Shame Martin Walker didn't get it!

  • Never been on Little Britain!!!!

  • 40 seconds into it do you think the young lad looks like the guy from little briton tv show

  • Dings

  • its funny when you think about it, when the A4 Silver Link the class leader was taken out of service she had been let get dirty, rusty, and I very much doubt she had a farewell ceremony like this and yet she had done 4 times the service this thing had when it was withdrawn, why were the early diesels taken away so soon? they were the nice ones in green anyway its just a bi of food for thought

  • "This thing?"

  • yes this thing I wasn't being derogatory to it, even though it replaced the beautiful steamers it was just a point I was making

  • Didn't life seem so much duller on monday 4th jan - back to school and no deltics, well until 27th feb came around anyway.

  • "You have extreme power at the end of your hand" has to be one of the most unfortunate quotes ever....but many Neds still believe it.

  • R.I.P the beastage of the railways.

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  • No we wont! Voyagers / Pendolinos are garbage!

  • yeh thubs up to that

  • deltics were beasts on the ecml so i heard shame i was only a few yrs late. nice to see them rail fans back then creaming them selfs lol bte aparently when the deltic got back wat we dnt see is a hst comes in and deltics horning away and hst starts horning and getts booed very bad hehe.anyone got footage of that?

  • I know what you mean, except I LOVE DIESELS!

  • yeah i know what you mean. i would have felt the same if i was a steam enthusiast.

  • this is so cool and we still have a deltic that can pull railtours.

  • We still have 6 production & the prototype!!

  • I hope we can keep the total production run Deltics at six, theres been a lot of talk recently involving HNRC buying 55 016 so they can scrap it and sell off the engines and the cabs etc.

  • I really hope they don't!!

  • i think they will, but at least some parts will be going to other deltics to kept them opeational and in good nick

  • Who owns 016? Maybe we could find out from the owners them selves?

  • i already have, thats where i got the info from, it took me ages to find though, if i get chance ill post what they said up for u

  • Cheers for that. I really hope they don't scrap her :-/

  • turns out she may be running at peak rail this september for a diesel gala (thats what it said on the website) and also the fate of the deltic isnt decided yet although there is a possiblilty its being bought by an overseas buyer (i dont what for though)

  • Apparently Deltic 16 has been purchased by DRS!

  • yes, i heard! its brilliant news :> no livery decided yet nor its use but they say there going to try and get it on the mainline which will be ace!

  • 55016 pulling frieght? Ooh that'll make the Deltic fans cross

  • yh, but at least it survived and mabye theyll hire her out for railtours :D

  • The man dissing her ROFL!

  • i've got some deltic recordings on c.d. and this event was recorded,first time i've seen the video in the flesh,thanks!!

  • RIP DELTIC

  • i wonder if it will be the same with the total withdrawal of the hst? (not talking about the val,would be some turnout when that does happen).it would be worse when all diesel trains are removed (it will happen someday) and replaced with soulless, spiritless electric rubbish.anyway amazing video, loved the tones hehehe.5*** and a fave

  • Lots of guys hated the HSTs when they came out but I always liked them.However you can't get the same sense of raw power you do with a Deltic.

  • the roaring coming from the engines always make me shudder. i bet the deltics could do 125mph...they didnt build enough of them :-(

  • ever done 130 in one?

    highly against the rules

  • why have you? ;-P

  • No, but my uncle who used to drive them told me about them

  • Replace all diesel trains! I wud like to see you electrify the Cambrian and Highland lines! Burk!!!!!!!

  • well network rail did say they would rather electrify all lines than develop a new diesel hst2. but yeah i agree on that, and the dawlish sea wall line....as if it wouldnt short circuit or something when the waves come over...i mean come on the voyagers had electrical problems because of waves there!

  • Just seeing a Voyager makes me want to short circuit!

  • haha me too! i went on a hst to plymouth the other day and it was the most comfortable ride i ever had.totally silent. hah they call it the quiet coach on a voyager...hahaha yeah whatever!

  • Not every electric is souless and spiritless. Those Pendolinos, at least to me, almost feel alive.

  • theyre an exception. i do love those, the shape is amazing. you see the new vt ad?

  • Yes I have.

  • eurostars? they have bucket loads of passion

  • I wouldn't know. They don't run up here.

  • poor deltic

  • I did wonder how long it would be before this found its way onto Youtube.I am the enthusiast interviewed by Nick Glass.My 15 mins of fame. The clip was shown 3 times that day

  • More people went to see the 'last Deltic' run on 2/1/82 than for any steam spacial which shows just how special they were in their day.

    Although i have been pulled by quite a few of them, i am looking forward to 19 July to have '22' out of my home time of Blackpool (only the 3rd to ever visit the town and 1 of those was only on ECS duties!).

    Also, will be having a run to the 'Cross' on 15 November on a railtour but i doubt there will be as many waiting to greet us this time!

  • Only two words can describe this. Priceless and poigniant. This allows those like me who are too young to remember (I was born only three years after the deltics were withdrawn), to get a glimpse of what that sad day was like; even more so to see it getting the coverage it deserved. Cheers for sharing Calibra5, five stars and favourited.

  • Incredible to see this again! Seems a lifetime ago. THANK YOU!

  • I was there too!

  • @nedchester Who was the bloke in the long Coat kissing D9000? I remember that report and seeing that guy....

  • I didn't know alot flocked to see the last run with BR. That proves the popularity of the Deltics.

  • Get up Rob ffs!!!!