Fellas - you also have to remember that the 606/707/808/909 also offered programming ease. It was easy for those who really didn't know much about production to get results FAST by just pushing start button and putting drums in the right spot. Really, the 808 is the most influential and well known drum machine of all time. Second place I would say is the CR-78/68 and then third would be the 707. Linns and SP's are dope, but they are inded at the end if list.
@tr80808 I think it is an amazing transformation when this goes to analog tape, then processed with all sorts of compressors and EQ's. But a lot of people dont know that a mix tape was made, then copies of it sent to a mastering lab, where it was put on tape yet again. Then copied. Then it was sent to the distribution. We are hearing high-fidelity (tape). Tape is what creates this.
I don't know about that. 90 percent of the people that even know what an 808 is, wouldn't know if not for hip hop. The first commercial hip hop song "Planet Rock" is all 808 drums. Name 5 non hip hop or rap songs using the 808 prominently, that predate 1990.
Erm, no it didn't. So what your saying is that up until 1990 all the house producers in the world used just 4 different drum machines? Seriously? I suggest you give it some serious thought and then come back with a sensible comment.
I said "Pretty much all House music from pre 1990 used either a 606, 707, 909 or 808" and to be fair most did. A few people used the linn, a few used the SP-12, some used samples and some used a real drummer but in most cases you will find that the Roland's were the machines that most house producers used. some other forms of electronic music used different machines but if we are talking house rolands were the standard.
While I agree that Roland gear has had a massively influential role in electronic dance music in most genres, I think it's a bit of a generalisation to say that mostly all house music used just 4 machines. Because the 808's & 909's are so closely associated with house, techno and electro/hip-hop, it's easy to disregard the fact that other machines probably were used. I'm not saying you're totally wrong, but I'd be wary about claiming a wide genre of music used such a limited range of gear.
I suppose I am talking as a Trax, Jack Trax and Warehouse fan and those guys used the 808, 909 & 707 alot of the time.
At the time I posted the original comment I was responding to the comment "Name 5 non hip hop or rap songs using the 808 prominently, that predate 1990. "
Granted, those labels did. I am looking at it from European point of view as well, which could mix things up as we got House a few years after the US. As for 'Name 5 non hip hop or rap songs using the 808 prominently, that predate 1990'. That's a walk in the park! Paul Hardcastle, the SOS Band, Paul Young....
marvin programmed the 808 for every song on the 1982 album 'midnight love'. considering the 808 came out in 1980, that would make him one the first to obviously see how dope it really is. every song!
oh man, listen to any dirty south hip hop track made in the last decade... 808 every time. dont call it a comeback! theres a few on ebay right now all for over $2000. its still THE most sought after drum machine in the world.
@mmmrenkas actually he didnt use the 808 on his album....he used the 909....google it and ull be suprised....he just used it of the name....so hip hop people can recognize it better
yes, I assumed something like that. Its like in the black eyed peas' boom boom paw they mention 808 in the lyrics, but what you hear is some kind of 909 rip off drums.
Actually... I hate to bust everyone's bubble... But it was done on the LinnDrum. No... I don't know EVERY drum machine that was used for every song ever but I can guarantee you the LinnDrum was used for Sexual Healing. I remember "High Fidelity" making a big deal out of it. It was the same time Prince was using drum machines for making 1999 which actually DID use a drum machine made by Roland... Whatever, just no more Lil Wayne music. I can't take anymore.
Are you just saying this to get attention? You are incorrect. Sexual Healing was made on an 808. All one has to do is listen to the 808 here and then listen to the song (which can be found here). Any musician that knows the 808 already knows all this already. The Linn doesn't even remotely resemble the sounds of the 808. In fact, the Linn was unique in that it was the first drum machine to use actual drum samples. The 808 was made from synth sounds.
OK, then the people that wrote the magazine and wrote the story about who was using what drum machine spoke out of turn then. I think they would know.
Well, that's what happens when you quote something you read instead of experiencing it yourself. It's all good, but don't come on here like an authority and "guarantee" anything that you don't have firsthand knowledge of.
No. Reading is great for the mind. But people should always be aware of WHAT they're reading. If you are going to quote something, you should be sure that it is a reputable source. You obviously read from a suspect source. The word "guarantee" is pretty strong for someone that merely read a random article. Had you extensive scholarship on the subject, that would be different.
Thanks for your nice comment! Sexual healing is a 2 bar loop. The first bar you programmed is perfect ,the second one the snare is on all the upbeats .Kick is on the one , the last sixteenth note of the 2 , on the 3 , and the last sixteenth note of 4.I don't know if you understand this. Hope you do, if not write me back and I'll try to explain it another way.
thanks for your help. i am struggling to understand the terms. i always struggled with the theory side of music, but my ear is better. is there an other option to explain it? thanks
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JUPITERGANG 1 year ago
Fellas - you also have to remember that the 606/707/808/909 also offered programming ease. It was easy for those who really didn't know much about production to get results FAST by just pushing start button and putting drums in the right spot. Really, the 808 is the most influential and well known drum machine of all time. Second place I would say is the CR-78/68 and then third would be the 707. Linns and SP's are dope, but they are inded at the end if list.
tr80808 1 year ago
@tr80808 I think it is an amazing transformation when this goes to analog tape, then processed with all sorts of compressors and EQ's. But a lot of people dont know that a mix tape was made, then copies of it sent to a mastering lab, where it was put on tape yet again. Then copied. Then it was sent to the distribution. We are hearing high-fidelity (tape). Tape is what creates this.
analyzingfunny 1 week ago
The most recognized TR808 beat in all of music. hehe :)
tall32guy 2 years ago
plus some lo-fi digital reverb and, bam!
tylervanbach 3 years ago
How much did you spend on this and where did you get it? Don't hold back
thedownloadz 3 years ago
LOL 808 = hip hop? i dont think so. The drum machine is 20 times more than anything hip hop.
Mattyuk1 3 years ago
I don't know about that. 90 percent of the people that even know what an 808 is, wouldn't know if not for hip hop. The first commercial hip hop song "Planet Rock" is all 808 drums. Name 5 non hip hop or rap songs using the 808 prominently, that predate 1990.
fooloof 3 years ago
Pretty much all House music from pre 1990 used either a 606, 707, 909 or 808
you could name hundreds
snolan1990 3 years ago
Erm, no it didn't. So what your saying is that up until 1990 all the house producers in the world used just 4 different drum machines? Seriously? I suggest you give it some serious thought and then come back with a sensible comment.
flidsticks 2 years ago
I said "Pretty much all House music from pre 1990 used either a 606, 707, 909 or 808" and to be fair most did. A few people used the linn, a few used the SP-12, some used samples and some used a real drummer but in most cases you will find that the Roland's were the machines that most house producers used. some other forms of electronic music used different machines but if we are talking house rolands were the standard.
snolan1990 2 years ago
While I agree that Roland gear has had a massively influential role in electronic dance music in most genres, I think it's a bit of a generalisation to say that mostly all house music used just 4 machines. Because the 808's & 909's are so closely associated with house, techno and electro/hip-hop, it's easy to disregard the fact that other machines probably were used. I'm not saying you're totally wrong, but I'd be wary about claiming a wide genre of music used such a limited range of gear.
flidsticks 2 years ago
I suppose I am talking as a Trax, Jack Trax and Warehouse fan and those guys used the 808, 909 & 707 alot of the time.
At the time I posted the original comment I was responding to the comment "Name 5 non hip hop or rap songs using the 808 prominently, that predate 1990. "
snolan1990 2 years ago
Granted, those labels did. I am looking at it from European point of view as well, which could mix things up as we got House a few years after the US. As for 'Name 5 non hip hop or rap songs using the 808 prominently, that predate 1990'. That's a walk in the park! Paul Hardcastle, the SOS Band, Paul Young....
flidsticks 2 years ago
nice!
666lexus 3 years ago
ive been trying all day to find this beat on my hammond auto-vari, until i found this freakin thing.
Tidiouter 3 years ago
Damn, that just fucked me up. The 808 is the machine that produced the beat for M gaye's Sexual Healing song!
mustafahajj 3 years ago
Lol...I know right! I felt the way when I found out.
kwd007 3 years ago
marvin programmed the 808 for every song on the 1982 album 'midnight love'. considering the 808 came out in 1980, that would make him one the first to obviously see how dope it really is. every song!
liennto 3 years ago
Damn, I didn't know that! 808 was a decent drum machine back in its day. It did wonders for early hip hop. And trying to make a comeback!
mustafahajj 3 years ago
oh man, listen to any dirty south hip hop track made in the last decade... 808 every time. dont call it a comeback! theres a few on ebay right now all for over $2000. its still THE most sought after drum machine in the world.
liennto 3 years ago
Thats for sure it made many tracks on kaynes new album. Using it so much it got its name in the title. 808 and heartbreaks?? 808 ring a bell.
dsrecs 3 years ago
kanye is such a wannabee and follower. When 808 is trendy again in the scene why not use that. And those ed banger rip offs!? What a looser
mmmrenkas 2 years ago 3
@mmmrenkas actually he didnt use the 808 on his album....he used the 909....google it and ull be suprised....he just used it of the name....so hip hop people can recognize it better
Iamaarcher2000 2 years ago
yes, I assumed something like that. Its like in the black eyed peas' boom boom paw they mention 808 in the lyrics, but what you hear is some kind of 909 rip off drums.
mmmrenkas 2 years ago
Actually... I hate to bust everyone's bubble... But it was done on the LinnDrum. No... I don't know EVERY drum machine that was used for every song ever but I can guarantee you the LinnDrum was used for Sexual Healing. I remember "High Fidelity" making a big deal out of it. It was the same time Prince was using drum machines for making 1999 which actually DID use a drum machine made by Roland... Whatever, just no more Lil Wayne music. I can't take anymore.
MTXSHO9732vV8SHO 3 years ago
Are you just saying this to get attention? You are incorrect. Sexual Healing was made on an 808. All one has to do is listen to the 808 here and then listen to the song (which can be found here). Any musician that knows the 808 already knows all this already. The Linn doesn't even remotely resemble the sounds of the 808. In fact, the Linn was unique in that it was the first drum machine to use actual drum samples. The 808 was made from synth sounds.
fooloof 3 years ago 2
OK, then the people that wrote the magazine and wrote the story about who was using what drum machine spoke out of turn then. I think they would know.
MTXSHO9732vV8SHO 3 years ago
Well, that's what happens when you quote something you read instead of experiencing it yourself. It's all good, but don't come on here like an authority and "guarantee" anything that you don't have firsthand knowledge of.
fooloof 3 years ago
Are you saying people should stop reading?
MTXSHO9732vV8SHO 3 years ago
No. Reading is great for the mind. But people should always be aware of WHAT they're reading. If you are going to quote something, you should be sure that it is a reputable source. You obviously read from a suspect source. The word "guarantee" is pretty strong for someone that merely read a random article. Had you extensive scholarship on the subject, that would be different.
fooloof 3 years ago
ur wrong......Prince used the Linn Drum. Marvin Gay used the 808........that's a fact
greggawhite 3 years ago 4
DAMN-WISH I COULD GET DOWN ON THAT.
chrismorale 3 years ago
hahah. that's nice..
RUDOLPHLYRICS 3 years ago
....... baby..
FrozenExplosion 3 years ago
nice 808!
MCVixenVee 3 years ago
Very nice, sounds very close.
Seany06 4 years ago
mmmmm... tr-808 clap. perhaps not as important as the bass drum, but still delicious!
germdisco 4 years ago
Thanks for your nice comment! Sexual healing is a 2 bar loop. The first bar you programmed is perfect ,the second one the snare is on all the upbeats .Kick is on the one , the last sixteenth note of the 2 , on the 3 , and the last sixteenth note of 4.I don't know if you understand this. Hope you do, if not write me back and I'll try to explain it another way.
dimsunk 4 years ago
thanks for your help. i am struggling to understand the terms. i always struggled with the theory side of music, but my ear is better. is there an other option to explain it? thanks
lewisjp8young 4 years ago