I don't disagree with SOME of the things Micheal Moore points out .. although I detest persons who fabricate things or edit unfairly and still call a movie a "documentary". After that I can't trust anything he says about an issue as it is now suspect propaganda.
the truth is...the top 1% creates the jobs...because they have capital...but jobs are needed to provide a demand and job creators love cheapest labor...cheapest labor is not in other parts of the world...so bye bye Middle Class of America. It's amazing the GOP's policy of "doing nothing" gets them elected. Obama needs a $3-4 trillion dollar stimulus or else, and change the laws so exported jobs must to go countries with similar labor laws as America or else you cannot out source!!!!!
Please support the Iranian students and freedom fighters. A lot is explained in my site: Poem Mehr 1st. These are the Rastas they want us to let die, they want us to forget we were all once united and for all that is good, for democracy, human rights and living free
I am reading at the moment "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn.
Holy Fuck! America is one sick country!
US leaders and business men have constantly oppressed the people.
Work 16 hours a day, earn $1. Workers unite and strike. Then state and federal troops come in. Then bang bang your dead. Or 20 years in jail for seditious talking.
Constant pattern. Over and over. All throughout the United States' sick history.
I admire you. However, listening to you more, my major concerns about you it seems you look for good facts in order to make profitable your business is this not a type of supporting suicides, alcohol, and drugs also? My point is the government downsizes and you collect what they have done, and both make profits from the disgrace of the real ones. Narrating is going to give the solution? with all respect, if one day you have time to look at yourself in YouTube...
@cheneygottagun he doesn't simply argue a left-right issue (bother to watch the last 2 mins at least) but a class war by the super-rich .
he gets profits from his movies because they're his & other americans' hard work instead of shipping studios/factories overseas to turn 1 billion $ profit into 1.12 billion thereby devastating US communities.
he doesnt write legislation cos getting people to push for change is more fruitful than being the only sane Rep. along with 434 corporate welfarists
@capaneo if in 16 years, we dont have banks corporations and republicans id be very worried. corporations unite the individual, banks protect the individuals property and republicans protect the rights of the individual. what the fuck is the problem?! you just want socialism, if so, get the FUCK out! that is NOT america is about douchebag. america is about freedom, liberty and justice, not stealing to support the incapable.
I saw how under Bush & Republicans individual rights were "protected" Wire-tapping, torturing people & [Un]patriot act!
Also I saw how banks protected property of people by kickin 'em out of their homes & making BILLIONS of dollars bettin on Chinese economy!
I also saw how corporates united people in by taking tax payers money & giving out bonuses and flying around in their private jets to Washington to ask for more tax payers money!
@13stevejohnson dont give me that marx alienation fruits of labour bullshit. If i start a company, manufacturing my OWN goods, then realise im doing well, so i employ more people to help in exchange for this help, i give them a wage. no work = no wage and vice/versa. if you dont like ur salary, then fuck off, make your own job. corporations are charities for the retards who are incapable of living their own lives. dont insult the men who gave you an opportunity to live out of poverty. cunt.
@13stevejohnson oh and we don't own your labour. YOU WHORE IT OUT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT NOTHING ELSE TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF. have soe fucking dignity if your so pissed off with capitalism. fuck off and die in that gutter you belong in. socialist fuck
@13stevejohnson and that gives you the moral high ground? you call me a pig, then admit to being a fucking thief?! socialism, communism, collectivism, and proletariatism is so fucking hilarious, i dont even find it funny anymore. tell me, why do the people deserve what i earn? what fucking RIGHT do you get to steal? this isn't robin hood. robin hood took from the tax man a.k.a the statist and gave back to the people. YOU MATE ARE THE SHERIFF OF NOTTINGHAM. FUCK OFF AND DIE
@13stevejohnson NO. NO. NO. NO!!! workers dont create wealth, dumbass. workers AGREE to a wage for the fruits of their labour. its called a contract. I do this for you, we agree on a price and you get paid. you think you deserve more than that, you renegotiate. we cant agree, you dont work. simple. if you dont like that, you're just saying you dont like nature and the way things are. get with the program or go start ur own business, "creating your own wealth". sponging wanker.
@bazbonehead If it were possible for everyone to make something of themselves and run their own business then capitalism would not work as there would be NO workers. It is designed to keep the poor dependent on those who have either earned their ownership or, more likely, those who have inherited it. By perpetuating the myth that it is an equitable system you are damaging yourself because you will never be one of THEM. You are enslaving yourself so the rich don't have to. Congratulations.
@jacksawild there will always be an elite. there will always be a bourgeoisie. there will always be a proletariat. no one will ever be equal. and thats just the way it is! socialism keeps everyone poor. capitalism at least gives the talented, the competent and the ambitious a chance to make something of themselves. socialism just keeps everyone in the shitter. fuck the common man, im here for myself and my friends only. capitalism gives me the freedom to do that. id die for it.
@bazbonehead If Marx was right then you may very well get your wish. Workers outnumber "owners" by a vast majority. Don't think it could happen? It has. Many times before and it will continue to happen until it sticks and then there will be NO "owner" class to oppose it. Strategically speaking, you are on the wrong side. We know you will defend it which is why the first thing that tends to happen in revolutions is people with your attitude are lined up against a wall and shot. Harsh but fair.
@overman926 ok, so i've brainwashed myself? for my own benefit? and even if i did, does that seem like a problem? dumbass. scarface is the only film you need to watch to define you life. "he loved capitalism....with a vengeance". EVERYTHING I STAND FOR
@bazbonehead I feel like you're just a troll. Even if you are, I think you're in no position to be calling anyone a "dumbass." "Fuck the common man, I'm here for myself and my friends only." Whether this is how you feel or not, it is almost certainly untrue. You pay taxes, purchase goods, and (presumably) produce goods. You contribute, somehow, to society overall. Unless you are an owner, you are not "here for yourself," and you will continue to be stolen from by the undeserving ruling class.
@overman926 'the undeserving ruling class'? if they're so undeserving, why do you let them take your precious money from you? BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOU! more intelligent, more manipulative, less caring, more adept, fast thinking, unmoved by changing sentiment, willing to do whatever to succeed. AKA, the ultimate man, the modern warrior. you lot are nothing but pathetic little sheep, who follow your precious leaders like Obama then blame the sharks who played you. you lost at life dude
@overman926 no i wouldn't .of course i wouldn't. im not stupid. just like i wouldn't expect anyone to die for any ideological cause. you can't exactly have ideas when you're dead can you. capitalism is freedom, socialism requires people asking me to do things for them, which i will never be happy with. the socialist fallacy is that we're all on this world together. NO, we are not. i have NOTHING to do with anyone, so piss off already. thats why people live in a americaL: freedom from others.
@bazbonehead You seem to be advocating some kind of pseudo-Nietzschean idea with a false understanding of the Will to Power. Marx never wrote "we're in this together." Rather, the Will to Power is embodied in the proletariat, who strives to take control from the owners and place it in its own hands. I'm going to assume you're in the age range of 12-16, and therefore are ignorant to your own dependance upon society.
Ahh the same idiots saying republicans are the problem. wake the fuck up idiots, both parties blow monkey dick
VirtuosicElevator 1 week ago
michael moore is great. i wish america was more like him. we are brain washed by facebook and iphones.
shortcoursetim 3 weeks ago
I don't disagree with SOME of the things Micheal Moore points out .. although I detest persons who fabricate things or edit unfairly and still call a movie a "documentary". After that I can't trust anything he says about an issue as it is now suspect propaganda.
Sconezeta 1 month ago
the truth is...the top 1% creates the jobs...because they have capital...but jobs are needed to provide a demand and job creators love cheapest labor...cheapest labor is not in other parts of the world...so bye bye Middle Class of America. It's amazing the GOP's policy of "doing nothing" gets them elected. Obama needs a $3-4 trillion dollar stimulus or else, and change the laws so exported jobs must to go countries with similar labor laws as America or else you cannot out source!!!!!
dalecampbl9 3 months ago
You people are ALL insane.
No-one is talking any sense at all.
VeggiePower303 4 months ago
Please support the Iranian students and freedom fighters. A lot is explained in my site: Poem Mehr 1st. These are the Rastas they want us to let die, they want us to forget we were all once united and for all that is good, for democracy, human rights and living free
UPOME 5 months ago
michael moor is a bit of a tool
leltard 6 months ago
I like the man. I'm sorry.
I am reading at the moment "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn.
Holy Fuck! America is one sick country!
US leaders and business men have constantly oppressed the people.
Work 16 hours a day, earn $1. Workers unite and strike. Then state and federal troops come in. Then bang bang your dead. Or 20 years in jail for seditious talking.
Constant pattern. Over and over. All throughout the United States' sick history.
iankyoko 11 months ago
Dear Mr. Moore,
I admire you. However, listening to you more, my major concerns about you it seems you look for good facts in order to make profitable your business is this not a type of supporting suicides, alcohol, and drugs also? My point is the government downsizes and you collect what they have done, and both make profits from the disgrace of the real ones. Narrating is going to give the solution? with all respect, if one day you have time to look at yourself in YouTube...
javi75tube 1 year ago
Yeah! Downsize you fatso!
pepintheshort100 1 year ago
and the biggest douche in the universe award goes to..... Michael Moore!
bazbonehead 1 year ago
@cheneygottagun he doesn't simply argue a left-right issue (bother to watch the last 2 mins at least) but a class war by the super-rich .
he gets profits from his movies because they're his & other americans' hard work instead of shipping studios/factories overseas to turn 1 billion $ profit into 1.12 billion thereby devastating US communities.
he doesnt write legislation cos getting people to push for change is more fruitful than being the only sane Rep. along with 434 corporate welfarists
dontliethetruth 1 year ago
I think it's time for him to downsize his weigh.
bamboostinger 1 year ago
and the current system is even worse... how sad.. if we follow the current trends the future isn't worth dreaming of...
Th3Wab3 1 year ago
Fast forward 16 years later and USA have still the same EXACT problems. Banks, Corporations and Republicans!. If not only worse!
capaneo 1 year ago 14
@capaneo if in 16 years, we dont have banks corporations and republicans id be very worried. corporations unite the individual, banks protect the individuals property and republicans protect the rights of the individual. what the fuck is the problem?! you just want socialism, if so, get the FUCK out! that is NOT america is about douchebag. america is about freedom, liberty and justice, not stealing to support the incapable.
bazbonehead 1 year ago
@bazbonehead
I saw how under Bush & Republicans individual rights were "protected" Wire-tapping, torturing people & [Un]patriot act!
Also I saw how banks protected property of people by kickin 'em out of their homes & making BILLIONS of dollars bettin on Chinese economy!
I also saw how corporates united people in by taking tax payers money & giving out bonuses and flying around in their private jets to Washington to ask for more tax payers money!
WAKE UP man, change the channel from FOX!
capaneo 1 year ago 14
@bazbonehead YOU WANT TO OWN OTHER PEOPLES LABOR SO FUCK OFF, YOU PIG!
13stevejohnson 11 months ago
@13stevejohnson dont give me that marx alienation fruits of labour bullshit. If i start a company, manufacturing my OWN goods, then realise im doing well, so i employ more people to help in exchange for this help, i give them a wage. no work = no wage and vice/versa. if you dont like ur salary, then fuck off, make your own job. corporations are charities for the retards who are incapable of living their own lives. dont insult the men who gave you an opportunity to live out of poverty. cunt.
bazbonehead 11 months ago
@13stevejohnson oh and we don't own your labour. YOU WHORE IT OUT BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT NOTHING ELSE TO SHOW FOR YOURSELF. have soe fucking dignity if your so pissed off with capitalism. fuck off and die in that gutter you belong in. socialist fuck
bazbonehead 11 months ago
@bazbonehead we will take you business bitch and give it to the people
13stevejohnson 11 months ago
@13stevejohnson and that gives you the moral high ground? you call me a pig, then admit to being a fucking thief?! socialism, communism, collectivism, and proletariatism is so fucking hilarious, i dont even find it funny anymore. tell me, why do the people deserve what i earn? what fucking RIGHT do you get to steal? this isn't robin hood. robin hood took from the tax man a.k.a the statist and gave back to the people. YOU MATE ARE THE SHERIFF OF NOTTINGHAM. FUCK OFF AND DIE
bazbonehead 11 months ago
@bazbonehead read and learn dumb ass. workers create wealth, not non labor ownership. they are taking wealth from the working class.
13stevejohnson 11 months ago
@13stevejohnson NO. NO. NO. NO!!! workers dont create wealth, dumbass. workers AGREE to a wage for the fruits of their labour. its called a contract. I do this for you, we agree on a price and you get paid. you think you deserve more than that, you renegotiate. we cant agree, you dont work. simple. if you dont like that, you're just saying you dont like nature and the way things are. get with the program or go start ur own business, "creating your own wealth". sponging wanker.
bazbonehead 10 months ago
@bazbonehead If it were possible for everyone to make something of themselves and run their own business then capitalism would not work as there would be NO workers. It is designed to keep the poor dependent on those who have either earned their ownership or, more likely, those who have inherited it. By perpetuating the myth that it is an equitable system you are damaging yourself because you will never be one of THEM. You are enslaving yourself so the rich don't have to. Congratulations.
jacksawild 7 months ago
@jacksawild there will always be an elite. there will always be a bourgeoisie. there will always be a proletariat. no one will ever be equal. and thats just the way it is! socialism keeps everyone poor. capitalism at least gives the talented, the competent and the ambitious a chance to make something of themselves. socialism just keeps everyone in the shitter. fuck the common man, im here for myself and my friends only. capitalism gives me the freedom to do that. id die for it.
bazbonehead 7 months ago
@bazbonehead If Marx was right then you may very well get your wish. Workers outnumber "owners" by a vast majority. Don't think it could happen? It has. Many times before and it will continue to happen until it sticks and then there will be NO "owner" class to oppose it. Strategically speaking, you are on the wrong side. We know you will defend it which is why the first thing that tends to happen in revolutions is people with your attitude are lined up against a wall and shot. Harsh but fair.
jacksawild 7 months ago
@bazbonehead go somewhere and shit you stanking freak
DrShitandStank 6 months ago
@bazbonehead "That's just the way it is."
The extent of your brainwashing is realized in this statement.
overman926 5 months ago
@overman926 ok, so i've brainwashed myself? for my own benefit? and even if i did, does that seem like a problem? dumbass. scarface is the only film you need to watch to define you life. "he loved capitalism....with a vengeance". EVERYTHING I STAND FOR
bazbonehead 4 months ago
@bazbonehead I feel like you're just a troll. Even if you are, I think you're in no position to be calling anyone a "dumbass." "Fuck the common man, I'm here for myself and my friends only." Whether this is how you feel or not, it is almost certainly untrue. You pay taxes, purchase goods, and (presumably) produce goods. You contribute, somehow, to society overall. Unless you are an owner, you are not "here for yourself," and you will continue to be stolen from by the undeserving ruling class.
overman926 4 months ago
@overman926 'the undeserving ruling class'? if they're so undeserving, why do you let them take your precious money from you? BECAUSE THEY ARE BETTER THAN YOU! more intelligent, more manipulative, less caring, more adept, fast thinking, unmoved by changing sentiment, willing to do whatever to succeed. AKA, the ultimate man, the modern warrior. you lot are nothing but pathetic little sheep, who follow your precious leaders like Obama then blame the sharks who played you. you lost at life dude
bazbonehead 4 months ago
@bazbonehead Obvious troll is obvious.
overman926 4 months ago
@bazbonehead Scratch that, you're most definitely a troll. You would die for capitalism? So be it.
overman926 4 months ago
@overman926 no i wouldn't .of course i wouldn't. im not stupid. just like i wouldn't expect anyone to die for any ideological cause. you can't exactly have ideas when you're dead can you. capitalism is freedom, socialism requires people asking me to do things for them, which i will never be happy with. the socialist fallacy is that we're all on this world together. NO, we are not. i have NOTHING to do with anyone, so piss off already. thats why people live in a americaL: freedom from others.
bazbonehead 4 months ago
@bazbonehead You seem to be advocating some kind of pseudo-Nietzschean idea with a false understanding of the Will to Power. Marx never wrote "we're in this together." Rather, the Will to Power is embodied in the proletariat, who strives to take control from the owners and place it in its own hands. I'm going to assume you're in the age range of 12-16, and therefore are ignorant to your own dependance upon society.
overman926 4 months ago
@capaneo Oh wait a minute, wat about the stupid Obama who promotes nike wears frequently.?
matatan69 1 year ago