Nightline Frank Zappa September 13, 1985 Part 3 of 3 with Ted Koppel

[guyNbluejeans]

ted koppel and joseph goebbels were similar devils, though koppel got to retire in comfort as a millionaire.

he'd "explore" how blacks were allegedly being "racially profiled" by "white" police. Yet, he never had a word to say about all the Caucasians on public buses and elsewhere being beaten by spoiled black thugs 24/7 ...!

he was Johnny-on-the-spot with a two-day town-hall meeting to address what happened to James Byrd. But didn't have one word to say about what happened to Kristopher Kime!

[adalaku]

When Robert Johnson learned from Ike Zimmerman, people said that he sold his soul. Paganini was such a virtuoso violinist that people though he was the devil. Censorship in music is useless. No matter what your songs contain there will always be ignoramusses who will negatively criticize what their feeble minds can't comprehend.

[superkulmedkniv25]

I am 17 years old.

I used to masturbate to MTV when i was 10 - 12 years old,and that was purely a source of pleasure to me. The only thing that bothered me at that age was people talking down on masturbation at a young age. Due to a lack of sexual education, i thought that masturbation was wrong, and though that it might be dangerous. Now, i think the poor, ignorant people that FZ had to deal with in this show are the same kind of people who create the taboos which makes kids confused about sex.

[iamryun]

hahahhahaha

[probrojeffro]

What's more of a waste of the senator's time? Going after song lyrics or drug taking ballplayers?

[nclusiau]

Zappa was cut off, bull shit 2

[SpiritOfRadio2112]

i don't have much of a problem with donny. I think he's right in that kids shouldn't receive their sexual education from television. I think he believes what he's saying just like zappa. Not like stroud. That cunt is an automaton.

[CarryingNoCross]

@SpiritOfRadio2112

Frank actually said a similar thing. Educate your children, let them know about sex and about how you should treat other people. Then the sort of material that's attacked by PMRC cannot do any harm.

[fadethetrade]

@CarryingNoCross Make your kids feel superior to everyone else and explain the aberrations of having the sickeness of being a sex and drug addict.They;ll laugh things off when they're growing up.Thats how it's done.No communication is the worst.

[fadethetrade]

"How could you tell a kid about a weeny wagger  unless he knows what a weeny is".LMAO!

[ChrisMagoo99]

I love how they go on and on about "oh, our kids shouldn't be learning this stuff from MTV and music"

that's exactly what Zappa is saying, ugh. He says to teach your kids at a young age about it so they don't learn from other sources. Information is powerful.

[fadethetrade]

at 2:43,zappa wiped koppel off the floor with his response to koppels aberrated reference.

[shadowmalik009]

3:33 i just yelled what a dumbass at my computer, zappa just said teach your kids so that TV doesn't

[thesicilianguitarist]

Candy=conservative cunt

Donny boy=a tool

Zappa=LEGEND....you are missed =(

[koolstrike]

@thesicilianguitarist One big problem with your theory. Kandy Stroud is the president of an international PR firm based in Washington, DC and is a consultant for democratic presidential election campaigns.

Ms. Stroud is also on facebook, go look her up.

Stroud is/was hardly a conservative.

[thesicilianguitarist]

@koolstrike Ooohhh....I guess everybody was right....I AM an idiot! =)

[koolstrike]

@thesicilianguitarist Don't be so hard on yourself. Campaign managers and publicists are mouth pieces for hire. Pay them enough and they do and say what you want. After your organization is done, they go away.

This is similiar to another profession, they go away after you pay them.

[CarryingNoCross]

@koolstrike

Spot on. It's one thing to belong to or is associated with one party and it's another thing to support specyfic points of view. The point of view presented here by Candy is 100% conservative.

[MrSoulauctioneer]

@koolstrike exactly...shes not a conservative...conservatives were FALSELY ACCUSED of this bullshit...they were almost all LIBERALS...gettin in YOUR business...tellin YOU how to behave...now shut up get in step and blame the right

[olflatop]

Try classical music, try jazz. In other words, think for yourself, don't be lazy by letting the media do it for you.

[MegaYoshitsune]

lol, whenever Frank Zappa makes a great point, people always change the subject or just pretty much ignore what he said earlier.

[pens2lips]

A PMRC hag, a TV puppet, a Mormon against Frank Zappa. Then they cut him as he

presents a great point.

[physicalgraffiti714]

zappa zappa zappa zappa

[OdinLowe]

I FUCK LIKE BEAST

god I NEVER thought I'd see that again

[MEpianist]

Ted is such a Kissingeresque piece of shit.

[jacobladders]

SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNIE YOUR OUT OF YOUR ELEMENT!!!

[OdinLowe]

@jacobladders He acts like a cocktractor here

[goblinob]

@jacobladders dude you actually made me laugh out loud

[deaththrasherlou1983]

It all stems from they didn't want children thinking for themselves

[nickwade1]

That chick doesn`t get enough sex

[01sircharles]

I can't get over her eyebrows. looks like she's been looking thru binoculars with ink on the eye pieces.

[BitterBosh]

"It's not just the masturbation we're talking about!"

-Ted Koppel

[Gazhole]

The woman defeated her own point - it IS the parent's responsibility to educate their children, and if they've done their job right no amount of Motley Crue or Prince is gonna turn them into rapists or murderers. If that weren't true all the thrash metal, Mortal Kombat games, and Terminator films would have led to me and my friends all being locked up for murder because thats all we did from age 10 onwards.

[1965Davey]

@Gazhole Exactly. The children should be educated before they even hear "Motley Crue", or whatever. Parents are just lazy today. Lack of discipline and structure is the culprit. I'm a city bus driver, and I see it all.

[Gazhole]

@1965Davey It seems like a pretty simple concept that idiots like this can't seem to grasp whether we're talking about Elvis 50 years ago or Prince in the 90's or bands like Slayer or Cannibal Corpse more recently. I always knew as a kid that whatever happens in movies or games or music is just entertainment because my parent's taught me right and wrong, respect, manners, and above all else - not to be a moron.

[TEMPmichaelhansen]

Frank & Gail Zappa have 2 sons and 2 daughters, ALL GOOD KIDS!!!

4:08 FUNNY because of what frank said at the hearing... WASP proved franks point...hear frank. INDUSTRY HAS NOT GONE TO FAR, NOT EVEN MARILYN MANSON!!! 6:27 FRANK IS RIGHT try brian eno shuttov assembly

[TEMPmichaelhansen]

dirty mind had a warning label on the tape...

[LuneyTune72]

Donny doesn't know jack shit. The only person who was able to support their argument (other than repeat themselves 500 fucking times) was Frank. The truth is what Frank said, that the kids should be able to laugh at the ridiculousness of the music, not take it seriously. I don't know of one case where a kid is dumb enough to be inspired by rock music enough to hurt someone. Sure the music gives you a thrill, but if it takes you that far then there's something wrong with he/she.

[runnerpucci]

@LuneyTune72

Word. I would like to think that we have got passed this type of hystaria but this seems tame compared to some of the ridiculous crap the right and left try to conflate into a "crisis". I can't understand the line of reasoning of "what about the children?" #1 who said this music was for children? #2 should all of our political decisions be made for children? Sorry can't sell liquor because of the children, you can't read Ovid because of the children... what complete crap

[PerpetualxBurn]

Donny makes himself look like a fool.

[thepossumdance]

Well thats not a fair debate... Hmmm lets get possibly the most intelligent and thoughtful rock and roll (and classical) star of all time a virtuoso in all senses and pit him against a two-bit hack with down-syndrome and a transsexual horse who can't decide what color her/his top is... poor Zappa he looked bored

[MrWaterpumpkin]

People who condemn explicit phrases are cowards; real life catches them unawares, such very fellows being greatest enemies of culture and human virtues. They would turn masses into a feeble crowd of frail nobodies - masturbators of the impotent culture."

[runnerpucci]

@MrWaterpumpkin

hahah not that I agree with all of what you said but I love the argument "we have to protect our culture from these hooligans" and I think of Ovid or Shakespeare or nearly any other author or artist of any worth which make up Western culture and it is clear that these prudes would ban their work just as fast as they would ban Zappa or Motley Crue or NWA... I mean Ovid is positively erotic, Shakespeare is bloody and violent but thats because they reflect life,,,

[MrWaterpumpkin]

Something interesting in this connection from the introduction to "Svejk" by Jaroslav Hasek: "It was very rightly said on some occasion that a man of good manners could read anything. A naturally going process would disgust only greatest ribalds and utter vulgarians, whose vile phony morals obstruct their view making them indignantly attack some particular words....

[stringcheese9]

I love how conservatives are always for less government...except when it comes to obscenity, abortion, gay marriage, books in schools, etc.

[Tigerbabysob]

If there weren't so many SNUFF movies out? God, Ted sounds like the rest of the morons back then...

[zaneisthemaster]

zappa got cut off at the end that was bullshit

[fadethetrade]

@zaneisthemaster that wasnt the station,it was the uploader.

[SteveSparx]

no censorship period

[fadethetrade]

6:30 to 6:57 ,zappa clarifies the entire debate and makes the only point that is valid in this issue.The rest was yrs of time wasting tax spending crap.Just teach your kids properly and bring them up in a open healthy manner and they can laugh at all the garbage in lyrics.The jewish and islam community kids wouldn't kill themeselves because they heard a heavy metal song about suicide.They're family values are too strong to allow them to fall for it.

[SIMPFANN]

There is a convoluted web of multiple angles from which this issue can be viewed. In the format of half-hour television shows with constant commercial breaks and so forth, some of these so-called debates were not able to cover all the points fairly. What I really would have loved to see would have been a debate to the death between Zappa and Stroud. Somebody should have just let them say EVERYTHING they had to say over two or three days and filmed it. That would have been fucking brilliant.

[cjk9013]

The final remark: "children should be raised by their parents...". That is the way it should be. In the words of Jeff Foxworthy: "Well Duh...".