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  • SHE TRIED TO NOM ME!!!!!!

  • Wouldn't the queen actually remember Alice? Well I has been 10 years

  • I think that the Queen isn't really Lizzie, it's just the form and voice she's taken

  • Who else moved away from the computer screan at the end there?

  • I love the queen's voice.

  • wanna blowjob?

  • @Felgrim4 handjob is better :P

  • What's wrong with the queens hands....?

  • @Primrose123100 From what I can make out so far, is that the Red Queen is Lizzie, Alice's sister. So, to add to result, the Queen's hands are burnt and demonic because of Lizzie's fate in the fire. That's what I think.

  • I know that alice called the queen Lizzie later on in the game, but she just looks like a young alice. And why wouldn't she look like alice? It is her mind after all, It only makes sense that she would be the queen of it.

  • its not a younger alice its her sister... if u listen at then end with her talking to the hater n what not ... u see that she calls the queen lizzy

  • "I won't miss your tentacles"

    ,... Am I only one who get's disturbed of that line?

  • I like how her voice and accent changes throughout the scene. The Queen, I mean.

  • go 2:01

  • Her hands.... wtf wrong with the queens hands 0.O

  • She's so cute :D

  • the Idea of The Red Queen as Young Alice is quite ingenious as it shows that there is no greater enemy than.... yourself.

  • Her crown is floating. O.o"

  • It's lizzie because Alice called her that on the Infernal Train. Nuhhhh! :P

  • @Thesquarewave I had always thought that she was saying that more to herself than calling the Queen Lizzie. Like one of those 'Oh God what have I done?'

    moments because Alice still feels that what happened to Lizzie is her fault..

  • @DistantPrince Hehe, I knew there was a possiblity of that. I just put that comment just to see if somebody would wack my head off about it. ;) Thanks for the nice and detailed reply! apreaciate it. :)

  • @Thesquarewave I don't know why people get so upset if someone thinks she's Lizzie or if they think she's young Alice. We don't know which she is...

  • @DistantPrince They're pieces of evidence that lead to her most likely being Alice. First; some comments state that it says it's younger alice in the art books (or something like that). Second is a feature I see: They both have green eyes. Third is plausible: The queen of hearts in the first game "American Mcgee's Alice" was also a distorted version of alice and probably still is. It's also possible that this is Alice but with Lizzie mixed in due to events affecting the mind.

  • @Thesquarewave

    I think the reason why she'd be a younger Alice too is because Alice is taking the "child's" route of running away from her problems---purposefully trying to forget about what Bumby's doing to the kids, even if she doesn't realise what she'd doing.

    But in the first game the Queen's an adult because for the entire game she knows what she's doing and is taking the mature route of dealing with her guilt instead of forgetting it.

    I suck at explaining things :P

  • @DistantPrince Well I wouldn't say you "suck" at explaining. It's an interesting point. Hmm... I keep that in mind. ;)

  • @Thesquarewave

    Mcgee said that the Queen has no connection Lizzie whatsoever.

  • @zonilo1 If the creator says it, then it's true hands down. Thanks for the info.

  • @DistantPrince She is young Alice of course. The art book implies that she is mainly an avatar for Alice herself. Makes more sense since this is her own mind.

  • @Daemonologist I agree. The whole chapter is about Alice having to realize what happened during the fire and her role in that night, so why not have the Queen be younger Alice?

    Seriously, it seems like Alice was really disturbed by her feeling that she let it happen and was focused alot on those feeling in chapter 4.

  • @DistantPrince To be honest, I sometimes feel like that the Queen is Lizzie. Being the youngest in the family usually ends up being spoiled; by treating her as a princess or Queen by which Alice would considered her as such. Alice's imagination would create an image that represent and based someone or something. But nothing have said that she was anything like that or mentioned about her at all.

  • @Daemonologist I think Lizzie was older than Alice wasn't she? Because I read some where, "Her parents and her older sister Lizzie were killed in a fire."

  • @spark12222 No, it is mentioned by the producers that she's younger than Alice.

  • @DistantPrince It's not actually an irrational theory about Lizzie being the queen. Usually Alice imagine wonderland as a symbol of the real world. The inhabitants represent some individual's personality behavior and the environment. Lizzie have some linkage to the queen; but I believe it is more sensible that the queen is based on her mother than her sister. A mother's authority is the usually common relationship with the daughter.

  • @Thesquarewave lizzie is the name of her sister

  • Am I the only one who don't like when the queen open her mouth at the end of that scene? Xd

  • Face to face? If that isn't the understatement of the decade. XD

  • Who benefits from your madness?

  • Lizzie is the queen of hearts

  • omg jessie j is the queen of hearts :S

  • I've always thought the Queen was supposed to look like Lizzie... just a theory, though.

  • The Red Queen's a bit young.. o.O

  • @xSakuraKurox

    Because it's Alice as a little girl....

  • @zonilo1 Really? I thought she had a little sister or something.. o.O

  • @xSakuraKurox

    Alice did have a sister (as stated from the original book which Lizzie is based on) but Mcgee said that the Queen is Young Alice.

  • Anyone else notice how the Queen is a hell of a lot smarter than her original self in the book?

  • 0:19 - 0:23 - sounds like Moaning Murtle O_O

  • yoooo so scary but i like it

  • omg

    

  • Whos Lizzie?

  • @OMGITSPARTA the dead sister of Alice

  • I love her voice >.<!

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  • *gets to the Queen of Hearts*

    Okay, that's certainly an interesting take on the Queen. Then again, this whole game is an interesting take on "Alice in Wonderland".

  • For all of you arguing about who the red queen is, just accept who you think the red queen is and stop trolling on the people who think otherwise.

    For me regardless of what the artbook says, I like to think she's an incarnation of Lizzie in Alice's mind because she looks nothing like Alice when she was a little girl, and because she looks more like the girl in the family portrait (aka Lizzie)

    It also feels deeper in meaning than if it were young Alice.

    Thank you

  • @xXMidnightdoveXx

    Your now just seeing things you want to see that aren't there. The Queen is Young Alice and there is no evidence that she's Lizzie and it's been confirmed many times even by Mcgee himself that the Queen has no connection to Lizzie. Infact the Queen has a child's body if you look very carefully. Sometimes people deny evidence even when it's front of them.

  • @zonilo1 I know, I just like to think of the Queen as Lizzie - next time read the comment and quit trolling people who have a wider imagination than you...

  • "I won't miss your tentacles"

    Giggity.

  • "Lizzie's" voice... I'd go gay for it. Me gusta.

  • the red queen is ment to look (atleast i think so) half like her older sis lizzie(or elizabeth) and half like alice.

  • I thought the queen was lizzie, since thats what alice calls her on the train o-o

  • I fee like they could have made her cooler looking

  • The design of the queen was based on Jessi Slaughter.

  • it kinda gives it away tht the queen is Alice when Alice sais:I was expecting someone else then the queen sais: You don't know your own mind! but it would make sense if it was Lizzy, either way its all good :)

  • @bobetteboo You skipped the part where you explain why it makes sence if it was Lizzy.

  • !0!. 0uch.. fkn hard core or what?!. lmao xD

  • I love her :)

  • @tacodesuu

    It's actually lizzie.

  • @tacodesuu No, it's a young version of alice.

  • @TheCreatorOf4

    "In Alice: Madness Returns, it is implied that the Queen may be somewhat of an avatar for Lizzie although the art book implies that she is mainly an avatar for Alice herself." It's a bit of both really, but it makes more sense if it's Lizzie. In my opinion anyway..

  • @tacodesuu In my opinion, it makes far more sense if it's a younger version of Alice. Her deranged inner child.

  • Yup, read the book. It's supposed to be a younger version of her

  • h t t p:// static.zerochan.net/full/16/36­­/844316.jpg

    For all of you who think the Queen is Lizzie, look at this link and think again. If American McGee said it in the art book, and he invented the game, then there's no denying that

    THE RED QUEEN IS YOUNG ALICE LIDDELL.

  • o.o

  • one word. WICKED.

  • The developers made the queen to look like young Alice

  • @Misteve101 I thought they made the Red Queen to look like her sister Lizzie.

  • @mmaxximillion well... there are different theories about it... im not too sure myself, as Alice ( on the infernal train ) refers to the Queen as Lizzy, but in the art book, they say that they made the Queen to look like a younger Alice

  • @Misteve101 No theory, the Queen of Hearts was made to take on the appearance of Alice's sister Elizabeth/Lizzie

  • @Sk8terGaMer89 But it says in the art book "We decided to make the Queen of Hearts look like young Alice." / KW: "She's supposed to look like young Alice, but I think it's a little bit of a self-portrait too."

  • @Misteve101 Ohh! okay. I see it. :) It does look like Young Alice

    But what art book are you referring to??

  • @Misteve101

    This game is awesome. But I slightly want to watch the actual movives. Cause one night...I had a nightmare of this game. :|

  • @Misteve101 duh because she's her little sister isn't she?

  • @OrpazLalala

    No she isn't. She's simply young Alice nothing more.

  • @Misteve101 It's open to interpretation. c:

  • @mmaxximillion troll

  • @Misteve101 theories? more like confused idiots. please tell me the one how lizzie magical becomes apart of alice's mind.

    the art book gave the answer.

  • @TheCreatorOf4 I'll answer your question when you learn proper grammar.

    Calling someone an idiot usually implies that you have enough intelligence to, at the very least, create a properly formed sentence.

    Sorry if I sounded rude. I'm just making a rude reply, to a rude reply.

  • @mmaxximillion I never directly called anyone an idiot here. But hey, since you think Capitalization is so very important when making text messages on the internet, then suggest I'm stupid because of it, then I'll go ahead and call YOU an idiot, you witless bitch.

    You call yourself a fan of Wonderland? Yet here you are, assuming everyone should follow your rules and that you are right for it.

  • @TheCreatorOf4 'theories? more like confused idiots.'

    And I could care less about your capitalization, your comment was just simply hard to follow, and the phrasing of your words didn't make sense. But if that makes me a troll whatever. I shall go under my bridge, and live my happy little life.

    I never assumed that everyone should follow my rules. I simply stated what I had thought, and excuse me if I had gotten offended when someone called me a idiot.

    Geez, calm down.

  • @mmaxximillion lizzie was alice's older sister. what makes you think alice has a memory of lizzie so young when alice may not have even been born yet?

  • @TheCreatorOf4 "My Lizzie, what is this train's destination?" Alice asked the red queen while riding the infernal train, the question was directed to the red queen, therefor referring to the red queen as her Lizzie.

    That's where I got the impression that the red queen was Lizzie. in the images of Alice when she was younger, she doesn't resemble the red queen at all.

    Looking at really the only image of Lizzie, you can see that Lizzie has bangs and shoulder length hair.

  • @mmaxximillion It was "My lizzie... what is---etc." She meant to say "My God..." but she replaced "God" with "Lizzie."

    Alice wouldn't have a memory of a young Lizzie, and the official art book said the queen was based on a younger Alice.

  • @TheCreatorOf4 Interesting, that makes sense. Thanks. c:

  • ... that's creepy

  • awww *__*

  • Hey I wanted to know where did you get that Alice dress cuz when I played that part my dress was diferent O.o hehe I just wanna know :)

  • @wisicrazy If you have a PS3 its 1.99 on the PS Network. If you got a 360 its 160 microsoft points.

  • That Red Queen is a V... !!! o_o;

  • The Queen of Hearts is actually adorable! X3

  • *Sigh* I could watch this again and again and never get tired of it. Gotta love that disgustingly cute Queen! LOL

  • I seriously thought the red queen was Lizzie :/

  • @xXMidnightdoveXx because the red queen IS lizzie.

  • @xXMidnightdoveXx She is Lizzie

  • is it just me or does the red qween look like a freakin five year old?!

  • @sailorscoobygirl04

    It's because she's young Alice which is what she's supposed to be.

  • Thanks game, I wasn't planning on sleeping tonight anyway

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  • @factorynoises oh well i guess, it won best graphics and most artistic! i'm an avid artist and i absitively posolutely love it!

  • Xilent234: I enjoy life, but not with that piece of shit game

  • Yeesh, people! I know I'm going to get so many thumbs down for this but: really? I haven't played the game (I want to though), I only know the plot in an extremely loose sense, and I figured out that the queen of hearts was young Alice after the queen opened her mouth for about 5 seconds! The game does look cool though!

  • This game is emo and satanic as shit..got a problem!!!

  • @Diegoiscool4 yeah I have: stop being such a kill joy, get a life and cheer up!

  • u know im starting to think this game is emo or is it ????????

  • i just noticed that they look similar (im only that far)

    is the red queen Alice's dead older sister? They're both pretty, black hair, green eyes; or do all British people look like that?

  • @TheMystericaWitch American McGee confirmed that the Red Queen is actually a Young Alice. I thought that too until I looked it up, I got mindblown O_O

  • @tarabahbeh really now? Wow, that's surprising!

    I just beat the game and I finally realize that

  • @tarabahbeh it makes sense though. in the first game she took on alice's face, only as she was in the game itself. but since alice defeated her she's weak... like a child. X3

  • @tarabahbeh But didn't she call the Red Queen, Lizzie on that Infernal Train? I do remember she did when she asked where the train is going.

  • queen gets owned

  • is it only me who thinks alice and lizzy look hot?? o.O

  • I imagined the queen to said cuter...

  • YOUUU DON'T KNOW YOUR OWN MINDDD! <3

    @shadowblade17 speak more words!

    hatter = ?

    walrus & carpenter = ?

    caterpillar = wisdom.

    queen = heart.

    dollmaker = madness.

    train = destruction.

    I'm obsessed with this game and the meaning behind it! Maybe cause I'm a psych major, and abnormal psych is used alot within this game.

  • @tarabahbeh hmm i think the walrus and carpenter are deception because like Alice's therapist they deceived all the fish folks and underwater creatures into the play but really were just there to eat and kill them like the therapist wanted to cover up the Fire and child prostitution.

  • @BohemianAbomination that is true..... hatter probably means "time" since the level consists of one big mechanical clock and pieces of it, and since the Cheshire Cat says somewhere that "he's obsessed with time, find him".

  • @BerryShirayukii I bet it's cool and scary at the same time. :DD

  • Thumbs up if you think the Queen's voice will sound cooler in Japanese!

  • @PhyscoTeddeh lol i wanted to type her name but i was scared if i got it wrong someone would rant about it at me ^^;

  • This is Alices sister i think,right..?

  • @RikuTskuyomi yes its Lizzy :)

  • @PhyscoTeddeh That's Lizzy? She looks alot younger than Alice, but I love this Queen!

  • @moonchild2006 thats becouse Lizzy died young and Alice wouldnt know what she looked like older so she ended up looking like Lizzy before she died

  • @PhyscoTeddeh i see, makes sense though. i wonder how Lizzy took form of the Queen?

  • @moonchild2006

    Because the Queen is NOT Lizzie, she's Young Alice according to Mcgee how many times I have to tell people this?

  • @zonilo1 i haven't played the first one yet so i don't know what's going, but once i get it downloaded then i'll check it out. Lizzie looked older in the picture so it's gotta be Alice.

  • @moonchild2006

    Nope it's Young Alice

  • @zonilo1

    That's why she's younger

  • @PhyscoTeddeh

    No it's not.

  • what a bitch!!

  • Queen of hearts Se parece y habla como Tira de Soul calibur

  • thumbs up if u trembled at 0:44

    God, i really love this queen o_o

  • Japaneese porn in a nutshell?

  • 2:00 now thats one BIG mouth

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  • eeehhh.... the queen looks like a girl of 13 years old but talks like an woman of 88 years old and has hands of somebody thats 132 years old

  • @kopykopykopy because in the original the red queen was mad and she acted like a little girl but was realy the eldest and the hands just 2 make it cooler :P

  • hmm...Big Hands...Small Head...Creepy Voice...GODDAMN!!! CREEPY LITTLE WHORE!

  • What does a whore wearing panties have anything to do with any of these videos? o3o

  • Sanity means utilizing anger and the wish for death without any emotion,

    obeying with the determination of a little gear,

    thinking in the parameters of a bureaucrat,

    control your feelings rather then get controlled by them.

    The insane may be free, but I´d rather die, then be responsible for my actions.

    Give me a cause and I die for it, give me a leader and I live just for him -

    as long as a can march and serve all day and night,

    work relives your thoughts and all seems bright.

  • Ive seen enough hentai to know what comes next...or do I?

  • They need to make a 3D or regular animated movie of this game. It would be amazing.

  • Is it just me or changes her voice all the time?

  • "You prefer the hot stinking breath and unyielding, attention of a potent, unreasoning, unfeeling hell raiser! I don't think so!" I LOVE that line <3

  • is it me....or is the queen of hearts ADORABLE!!!!!??? KAWAII!!! >w<

  • I think I'm kinda mad. XD I'm watching that for the 50th time or something. :D I just love the voice of the Queen/Lizzie.

  • if the movie of this id deffs watch it

  • OMG she reminds me of moaning mertyl..

    mabye her voice?

    o.o

  • 2 People were eaten by the Red Queen because they gave her the finger

  • Irony is that the red queen is the only one who seems to have sanity and common sense lol

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  • @TheKawaiiCakes The Queen represents Alice's sense of order in the same way that Caterpiller represent's her wisdom. Each denizen of Wonderland represent's a part of Alice's psyche, another example is the Jabberwock from the first game, which represented her guilt. Simply put, the Queen is quite literaly the very heart of Wonderland itself.

  • Omo! at 0:07 I have a neighbor that looks like her! oh my, it's so freaky!

  • Pedobear be damned if he tries to approach her.

    He'd be mutilated by her tentacles and his head ripped off.

  • PEDOBEAR APPROVES

  • @ANWagn3rd

    Bumby is Pedobear in this game.

  • she reminds me of my little sister

  • *Before the Queen of Hearts scene*

    Me: Awright! Time to see and kick this bitch's ass who made our lives worse than hell.

    *During the Queen of Hearts Scene*

    Me: ...I LOVE YOU QUEEN OF HEARTS Y U SO ADORABLE... <3

  • 1:55

    GET IN MAH BELLAYH

  • I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going.

  • I played the Red Queen in theater...and then I found out about this...BEST PART EVER. O: