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  • In The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time he is 15 :)

  • If you get the chance to read Betty J Eadie's book, "Embraced by the Light" please do so. It was a New Your Times Best Seller and it is her account of what she experienced during here near death experience. It's a really good read and may just change your life forever!

  • Reading one person's account of a hallucination will hardly change my viewpoint on life after death. For one thing - how can anyone be sure that these people are even dead when they have the experiences? How are we to know that the experiences aren't happening seconds <i>before</i> or <i>after</i> clinical death?

    But thanks anyway.

  • Thats easy to answer, TCP Humanist. Because there are a very few cases, where there are medical records, which proof that people were clinical dead, but afterwards could describe exactly what happend during this time. I dont believe in a christian or other man-made God, but it makes me think ...

  • But that's just begging the question. I'm hypothesising that these hallucinations were before clinical death, and yet to refute it you say: "But they couldn't have been before clinical death, so you're wrong".

    How do we know that these NDE-hallucinations are not the cornerstone of all clinical death experiences - and thus, would it be surprising that there are very few <i>other</i> cases?

  • Youre right. Many of these experiences can be explained very well with hallucinations before clinical death. But not all of them: there are some very well documented cases (confirmed by the medical stuff) in wich patients could later decribe things while they were clinical dead. And also interesting: Mostly they can not remember the time before their clinical death - for example: how the accident happend.

  • And with the "few other cases" I meant the really well documented. That doesnt mean, other cases couldn be identical. But for me personally these other cases are far away from any proof, because it could have been a hallucination - as well as a real experience.

  • TCP, YOU should read "Amusing Ourselves to Death" by Neil Postman (non-fiction), if you haven't. It's a very informative and clever observation of modern society and a great companion piece to "Brave New World".

  • Thanks for the video response! You have some great books there....I will def have to read a few of them and try to get back to you.

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