@TheDiddlysquat They ARE illegal now - simply read the EMC Regulations and you'll see that, plain as day. The reason for their proliferation is that Ofcom aren't doing their job. It's that simple.
Powerline Networking is illegal to sell or use in Europe. They breach the EMC Essential Requirements, making it illegal to put a CE mark on them, and THAT makes them illegal to sell or use in the EU and beyond.
@SolwiseLtd - Nice video, shame the products stink and wipe out swathes of radio spectrum. Companies such as you should take responsibility for the products that market and not illegally pollute the radio spectrum with products that have zero intrinsic value.
I'm pleased to see that you introducing Gbit PLT - PLT greed knows no bounds and assuming that these are based on Gigle chips, will start causing interference to the FM, DAB and CAA bands , making PLT interference a mainstream issue.
Why do the makers keep using the term 'radio ham''? I'm not a radio ham. It was ordinary radio reception I lost when my neighbour used these. Yes, they notched the ham bands. It's everyone else who's getting the finger. How the hell did things like these, that transmit noise all over the radio dial get past the regs? Electronic toys are subject to tighter scrutiny. The whole thing's a joke.
“HomePlug” is a trademark of the HomePlug Powerline Alliance, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. The Solwise products are NOT approved by the HomePlug Powerline Alliance. Solwise are using the HomePlug trademark illegally!!
“HomePlug” is a trademark of the HomePlug Powerline Alliance, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. The Solwise products are NOT approved by the HomePlug Powerline Alliance. Solwise are using the HomePlug trademark illegally!!
HomePlug adapters are notched to reduce interference in the band that radio hams are interested in, this results in a lower data throughput on the HomePlug standard as a courtesy to radio hams. Of course these adapters output at -50dBm. I have seen reports of interference with DAB radio but have not seen this actually happen in any of our tests. These adapters are all CE approved and have been sold in the millions in the EU.
..furrthermore, if the emissions were really within the allowed specs, there wouldn't be any need of notching, would there? Broadcast listeners within half a mile of these things are in trouble. As a courtesy to you, they might decide not to sue.
@SolwiseLtd They're NOT CE approved - you just claim they are.
Tell you what, I'll pay to have them tested by independent labs and if they don't conform to the UK EMC regs, you agree to remove all of your company's Powerline Networking products from sale and production?
@SolwiseLtd All powerline network adaptors are radio transmitter / receivers and breach S116 of the Wirleess Telegraphy Act 2006. Wireless connections have been established with Comtrend, Devolo and Belkin units. Can you guarantee that the Solwise units will not talk wirelessly?
I have applied for a licence to transmit using PLAs. OFCOM advised I seek legal advice to see if I need one. The advice I received says I do as these transmit radio frequency energy over a large distance.
If these do not cause interference to the radio spectrum, why do you need to put in "notches" which reduce your products performance.
What about all the other users of the radio, are you going to put in notches for them also?
Surely this is admission that they do cause interference, and so do not comply with EMC regulations, and the notches are there to try and hide this fact!
Get real and get legal and get a conscience. Do the right thing for your company and get rid of these!
@SolwiseLtd The notches are useless to legal users of Radio in the ranges these adapters ILLEGALLY radiate over. The noise floor is raised to a level whereby the devices still prevent other apparatus from ooerating as intended, contrary to EMC regulation EN5022. On frequencies where the "nothches" are not used, emissions exceed legal limits by over 1000 times.
My neighbour had these things and totally screwed up my radio reception, and the neighbour opposite had the same trouble. The Ofcom guys told him to stop using it.
I own the Netgear NETGEAR XAVB101. It is plug and play. I don't have any preference in brand. I just wanted to say this technology really works. Plus it in, press some security buttons, and you're on.
@TheDiddlysquat They ARE illegal now - simply read the EMC Regulations and you'll see that, plain as day. The reason for their proliferation is that Ofcom aren't doing their job. It's that simple.
Ayrshore 6 months ago
9 months now....
Powerline Networking is illegal to sell or use in Europe. They breach the EMC Essential Requirements, making it illegal to put a CE mark on them, and THAT makes them illegal to sell or use in the EU and beyond.
Ayrshore 9 months ago
FOUR MONTHS.
Guilty, guilty, guilty.
Feel free to prove otherwise, but we both know you can't.
Consumers who uses these can get a fine of up to £5,000 in England and Wales!
Ayrshore 1 year ago
TWO months and no reply.
I take it as an admission that their Powerline Networking products are NOT legal, as they WILL fail the tests required in the EMC regulations.
Ayrshore 1 year ago
@SolwiseLtd - Nice video, shame the products stink and wipe out swathes of radio spectrum. Companies such as you should take responsibility for the products that market and not illegally pollute the radio spectrum with products that have zero intrinsic value.
I'm pleased to see that you introducing Gbit PLT - PLT greed knows no bounds and assuming that these are based on Gigle chips, will start causing interference to the FM, DAB and CAA bands , making PLT interference a mainstream issue.
rjy8960 1 year ago
Why do the makers keep using the term 'radio ham''? I'm not a radio ham. It was ordinary radio reception I lost when my neighbour used these. Yes, they notched the ham bands. It's everyone else who's getting the finger. How the hell did things like these, that transmit noise all over the radio dial get past the regs? Electronic toys are subject to tighter scrutiny. The whole thing's a joke.
freddo27 1 year ago
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“HomePlug” is a trademark of the HomePlug Powerline Alliance, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. The Solwise products are NOT approved by the HomePlug Powerline Alliance. Solwise are using the HomePlug trademark illegally!!
FerribySinger 1 year ago
“HomePlug” is a trademark of the HomePlug Powerline Alliance, Inc. in the U.S. and other countries. The Solwise products are NOT approved by the HomePlug Powerline Alliance. Solwise are using the HomePlug trademark illegally!!
FerribySinger 1 year ago
These are illegal to sell or use in the EU.
Ayrshore 1 year ago 2
HomePlug adapters are notched to reduce interference in the band that radio hams are interested in, this results in a lower data throughput on the HomePlug standard as a courtesy to radio hams. Of course these adapters output at -50dBm. I have seen reports of interference with DAB radio but have not seen this actually happen in any of our tests. These adapters are all CE approved and have been sold in the millions in the EU.
Louise
SolwiseLtd 1 year ago
@SolwiseLtd The CE markings mean nothing. Take a look at my videos of 'CE marked' homeplug adapters creating havoc.
G0IFI 1 year ago 4
..furrthermore, if the emissions were really within the allowed specs, there wouldn't be any need of notching, would there? Broadcast listeners within half a mile of these things are in trouble. As a courtesy to you, they might decide not to sue.
G0IFI 1 year ago 6
@SolwiseLtd They're NOT CE approved - you just claim they are.
Tell you what, I'll pay to have them tested by independent labs and if they don't conform to the UK EMC regs, you agree to remove all of your company's Powerline Networking products from sale and production?
Deal or no deal?
Ayrshore 1 year ago 6
@Ayrshore
A week and still no answer from Solwise?
Something to hide?
Ayrshore 1 year ago
@Ayrshore
a month and no reply.
I guess that's an admission of guilt.
Ayrshore 1 year ago
@Ayrshore That's a year now..... Still not willing to put your money where your mouth is Louise?
Ayrshore 6 months ago
@SolwiseLtd All powerline network adaptors are radio transmitter / receivers and breach S116 of the Wirleess Telegraphy Act 2006.
johnpetters 1 year ago
@SolwiseLtd All powerline network adaptors are radio transmitter / receivers and breach S116 of the Wirleess Telegraphy Act 2006. Wireless connections have been established with Comtrend, Devolo and Belkin units. Can you guarantee that the Solwise units will not talk wirelessly?
I have applied for a licence to transmit using PLAs. OFCOM advised I seek legal advice to see if I need one. The advice I received says I do as these transmit radio frequency energy over a large distance.
johnpetters 1 year ago
@SolwiseLtd
If these do not cause interference to the radio spectrum, why do you need to put in "notches" which reduce your products performance.
What about all the other users of the radio, are you going to put in notches for them also?
Surely this is admission that they do cause interference, and so do not comply with EMC regulations, and the notches are there to try and hide this fact!
Get real and get legal and get a conscience. Do the right thing for your company and get rid of these!
G0RSQ 1 year ago
@SolwiseLtd The notches are useless to legal users of Radio in the ranges these adapters ILLEGALLY radiate over. The noise floor is raised to a level whereby the devices still prevent other apparatus from ooerating as intended, contrary to EMC regulation EN5022. On frequencies where the "nothches" are not used, emissions exceed legal limits by over 1000 times.
London2272 4 months ago
Dont these cause cronic interferance to broadcast radio ?
Eddie6762 1 year ago
My neighbour had these things and totally screwed up my radio reception, and the neighbour opposite had the same trouble. The Ofcom guys told him to stop using it.
freddo27 1 year ago 3
I own the Netgear NETGEAR XAVB101. It is plug and play. I don't have any preference in brand. I just wanted to say this technology really works. Plus it in, press some security buttons, and you're on.
skwira001 2 years ago
that was useful thanx
meddeyc 3 years ago