@skulldrix@skulldrix Well said...its obvious every time you hear this man speak that the reality is we will not change our ways in time...we will commit collective suicide. That will be the only way our impact will be curtailed. Like the yeast in the petri dish, we will eat all our food/resource(s) and the only possible outcome will that of creating our own destruction....
Deep Green Resistance (DGR) is a movement based on the book, co-authored by Derrick Jensen, called Deep Green Resistance: Strategy to Save the Planet. DGR has a plan of action for anyone determined to fight for this planet-and win. If you've ever been inspired by Derrick's work, then here's where the solutions are. The time for action is now. No more ineffective actions - piecemeal, reactive, and sad. Now this war has two sides. Learn how to join the resistance:
Human life is inherently violent, and so is nature: thunderbolts and hurricanes and earthquakes and meteor strikes. As I have "gone more primitive" in my lifestyle, I have come closer to hunting than I ever had before (though I had fished). I have also ripped in to the flesh of the earth to plant seeds and to uproot potatoes.
In contrast, "better" is entirely an occurence in language. There is no such thing as "better" external to a subjective self-interested perceiver. There is no "best tree!"
I agree with much of what Derrick says, and many people are concerned and wanting to do something about deterioration of the environment. I was disappointed to hear him say that hate is a 'fine emotion' as that kind of response toward anyone almost always creates division and alienation, it is harmony that will heal. His view about what Buddha thinks that consumption of animals is 'evil' is not correct, Buddha asked respect for all living beings, similar to what Derrick is saying.
Oh what a good choice for the 200th show! And many thumbs up for this line: "Richard Dawkins talks about how you could have [a world based on] natural selection by cooperation or by competition, but the problem with one based on cooperation is that if there is a cheater everything falls apart [by which he meant to prove that it is based on competition]. Richard look around! - there IS a cheater ["civilized" humans] and everything IS falling apart...". This was VERY spot on!
His disjointed conversation jumps all over the place, and Janaia hardly gets a word in edgewise, but overall I like most of the things he says. 'nuf said.
"Is the world a better place because you were born?"
Probably not & chances are great the answer is no. However that's a grand expectation, when the best anyone can hope to do, is do the least amount of harm possible.
I probably shouldn't say this as far as the US & Western EU go, in a word; Xtianity. Every generation it's reinforced that the God of their Bible gave them the right of dominion. Along with the belief the rerun of Christ to take them to heaven means there's no need to use the world's resources wisely. They would ridicule this man for listen to tree, but will let a politicians who says the God talks to them & what they indicate God told them doesn't jive to what the Bible says.
Thank you for interviewing such a brilliant & controversial thinker. I was first made aware of him through Amy Goodman & Dem. Now. His thoughts go really deep and can bring up difficult emotions. I understand why so many comments on this video express confusion. I am grateful there are people like him around, and grateful that people like you give a forum for those ideas to get expressed.
Different show. But this is the first time I can't follow the conversation. I am not sure if the guy interviewed is mumbling, has a different dialect or is fuzzy in general. Hard to follow anyway.
I'm getting a headache trying to keep track of his layers of parenthetical conversation! But I love those kinds of headaches, LOL. A sidenote within a conversation within another conversation within a sidenote....ad infinitum...aarrrrgggh! I love it!
@donyunger look at africa, they die in the millions and still enough of them for the next desaster. And dude, we are here so we are killing us for 2000 years and still growing in numbers!
@gauharjk Actually, Northern Africa was the "bread basket" of the Roman Republic for quite some time. Those areas are now pre-desert, a part of the Sahara, but for a long time all sorts of cash crops were grown there. Egypt was also a big producer for the Roman Empire.
Idealising mesoamerica won´t work. Their civ.s got into crisis also due to enviromental degradation.
"The west" won by greater firepower but other than that human civ.s doesn´t seem to differ much.
It is this time that´s unique in our history. It´s the first global awakening of the subsets of the power hierarchy. Just to find out how similar our needs are...
Cartesian atheism is going to destroy everything. Absolutely everything. And when it is over, science will still be telling us that it wasn't to blame.
One of the western civilizations problems is in the phenomenon of group psychology. We follow the group and do as others, and breaking the pattern is hard. We can individually understand that we live in an unsustainable way, but to change that is hard, since we are all dependent on the group, and the collective culturally influence world view is so deep and overriding (genetic causes), and rationalizing.
I blame Renee Descartes and Charles Darwin, as being the ideological progenitors and enablers of our current environmental destruction.
Descartes because his philosophy was completely anti-animistic; he saw everything as a machine, humans included. Darwin because natural selection is used to justify psychopathy.
This is great stuff and I'm onboard with almost all of it. I disagree on his belief that porn is bad however. For men who look at marriage, and the predatory destructive family court system with distrust, well it gives them a choice. Instead of becoming a wallet for some woman long enough to have a couple kids before throwing you out, you can instead just dial up a bit of porn a few times a week and get it over with. Then you can go on with your life unexploited and free of being victimized.
2. Women are always complaining about men and how we're always bothering them for sex and honestly men want far more than women do. Porn however allows a man to defuse his sex drive before it becomes a problem for anyone. And isn't it odd that violent rape has decreased by 85% in the last 25 years and that just happens to match up with the great availability of internet porn. Some say porn lets potential rapists work out their weirdness by themselves instead of hurting people. I believe it.
Darwin said: Survival of the most "adaptable", not the most fit.So the ppl that improve the enviroment to suit them will live longest, like the Indians in the Amazon for example that improved the soil with charcoal...
@Axbent In the context of evolution adaptable was the life form adapted by changing it's nature to fit changes in the environment, not the life form modifying it's environment. Nice try at spinning Darwin, but it's irrelevant. Modern man is not showing any inclination to use sustainable practices that will even slow the destruction of the environment, much less improve anything.
"Forests precede us and deserts dog our heels." Great upload, thank you!! Derrick is great, and I was fortunate enough to be able to see him speak when he came to my town. His books are eye-opening to say the least. Keep up the great work, Peak Moment!
I must be evolving. That's a good thing. :) I mention this because this time, more than ever before, on a much deeper level (circumventing the intellect), I really got what Derrick was talking about. As always Janaia, wonderful interview!! Thank you so much.
As long as no suffering is inflicted, which is impossible considering factory farms. A cow is a bit smarter ,and feels more than 'a brocoli''. A cow has a nervous system!
I hate it when people compare plants and aniamls, as the same, whenever the word vegetarian or vegan is spoken.
Those rich crooks wants to do away with law which shows they are devolving and uncivilized and are actually turning into animals. I believed they used Gambling so much it has perverted their minds and they used it to manipulate people and enslave them. Men are want slaves are animals, I tell you!
Samuel Huntington also said things that make sense? Huh, guess you learn something new every day.
DoJaenin 1 week ago
Americans do NOT give a fuck. They are all doped up on consumption, and caught deep into the meaningless bullshit of their individual lies.
They are busy chasing terrible things like status and money. The believe in science and are completely ignorant.
skulldrix 3 months ago
@skulldrix @skulldrix Well said...its obvious every time you hear this man speak that the reality is we will not change our ways in time...we will commit collective suicide. That will be the only way our impact will be curtailed. Like the yeast in the petri dish, we will eat all our food/resource(s) and the only possible outcome will that of creating our own destruction....
ammachi3 5 days ago
Deep Green Resistance (DGR) is a movement based on the book, co-authored by Derrick Jensen, called Deep Green Resistance: Strategy to Save the Planet. DGR has a plan of action for anyone determined to fight for this planet-and win. If you've ever been inspired by Derrick's work, then here's where the solutions are. The time for action is now. No more ineffective actions - piecemeal, reactive, and sad. Now this war has two sides. Learn how to join the resistance:
deepgreenresistance[dot]org
DeepGreenResistance 3 months ago
The myths of science or the myths or the myths of the Tolowa? Like the methodology behind them are the same and are equally likely to be accurate?
Mjhavok 5 months ago
Human life is inherently violent, and so is nature: thunderbolts and hurricanes and earthquakes and meteor strikes. As I have "gone more primitive" in my lifestyle, I have come closer to hunting than I ever had before (though I had fished). I have also ripped in to the flesh of the earth to plant seeds and to uproot potatoes.
In contrast, "better" is entirely an occurence in language. There is no such thing as "better" external to a subjective self-interested perceiver. There is no "best tree!"
144jr144 6 months ago
I agree with much of what Derrick says, and many people are concerned and wanting to do something about deterioration of the environment. I was disappointed to hear him say that hate is a 'fine emotion' as that kind of response toward anyone almost always creates division and alienation, it is harmony that will heal. His view about what Buddha thinks that consumption of animals is 'evil' is not correct, Buddha asked respect for all living beings, similar to what Derrick is saying.
maple1255 6 months ago
Oh what a good choice for the 200th show! And many thumbs up for this line: "Richard Dawkins talks about how you could have [a world based on] natural selection by cooperation or by competition, but the problem with one based on cooperation is that if there is a cheater everything falls apart [by which he meant to prove that it is based on competition]. Richard look around! - there IS a cheater ["civilized" humans] and everything IS falling apart...". This was VERY spot on!
auroraglacialis 6 months ago
When is the second part going to be uploaded???
auroraglacialis 4 months ago 2
He looks so tired. I worry about his health. But he's insightful and so, so right, as usual.
ahnaknits 6 months ago
His disjointed conversation jumps all over the place, and Janaia hardly gets a word in edgewise, but overall I like most of the things he says. 'nuf said.
OceanJeff37 6 months ago
"Is the world a better place because you were born?"
Probably not & chances are great the answer is no. However that's a grand expectation, when the best anyone can hope to do, is do the least amount of harm possible.
donyunger 6 months ago
Addendum. Not all Xtians of course just enough to make thing damn difficult.
donyunger 6 months ago
I probably shouldn't say this as far as the US & Western EU go, in a word; Xtianity. Every generation it's reinforced that the God of their Bible gave them the right of dominion. Along with the belief the rerun of Christ to take them to heaven means there's no need to use the world's resources wisely. They would ridicule this man for listen to tree, but will let a politicians who says the God talks to them & what they indicate God told them doesn't jive to what the Bible says.
donyunger 6 months ago
Did I have Wendy's for lunch yesterday?
dbrown234 6 months ago
Wow, this was by far the most interesting show so I've watched on your channel...and you have a lot of good ones!
When is part 2 coming?
Thanks.
GrowerChief 6 months ago
Thank you for interviewing such a brilliant & controversial thinker. I was first made aware of him through Amy Goodman & Dem. Now. His thoughts go really deep and can bring up difficult emotions. I understand why so many comments on this video express confusion. I am grateful there are people like him around, and grateful that people like you give a forum for those ideas to get expressed.
quistunes 6 months ago 2
@quistunes P.S. I'm looking forward to part 2!
quistunes 6 months ago
@luvn45s we should
LocketupTight 6 months ago
Different show. But this is the first time I can't follow the conversation. I am not sure if the guy interviewed is mumbling, has a different dialect or is fuzzy in general. Hard to follow anyway.
Hairfair 6 months ago
This is not one of the stronger shows.
neptronix 6 months ago
Can't wait for part 2
nerdmom920 6 months ago
I'm getting a headache trying to keep track of his layers of parenthetical conversation! But I love those kinds of headaches, LOL. A sidenote within a conversation within another conversation within a sidenote....ad infinitum...aarrrrgggh! I love it!
AnnBearForFreedom 6 months ago
they lived for 1500 years on the same place cause they starfed in the winter to death and their babys died on running shit!
MrElektrolyt 6 months ago
@MrElektrolyt Interesting U R saying the starved to death & their babies died running on shit, but they evidently managed to live on for 1500 years?
donyunger 5 months ago
@donyunger look at africa, they die in the millions and still enough of them for the next desaster. And dude, we are here so we are killing us for 2000 years and still growing in numbers!
MrElektrolyt 5 months ago
@Velkoze1 Sounds like you're blaming Jews, so I guess everyone has their favorite scapegoat.
nerdmom920 6 months ago
Another great upload from my favourite channel on the whole of youtube
200FuckingPonies 6 months ago
I don't believe this person one bit... Sahara the bread basket of Rome! Not a chance...
gauharjk 6 months ago
@gauharjk If you don't believe this guy one bit, that's a troublesome state of affairs.
theShice 6 months ago
@gauharjk Actually, Northern Africa was the "bread basket" of the Roman Republic for quite some time. Those areas are now pre-desert, a part of the Sahara, but for a long time all sorts of cash crops were grown there. Egypt was also a big producer for the Roman Empire.
nerdmom920 6 months ago
@gauharjk maby he manen the Nile Delta
lordhasen 6 months ago
Idealising mesoamerica won´t work. Their civ.s got into crisis also due to enviromental degradation.
"The west" won by greater firepower but other than that human civ.s doesn´t seem to differ much.
It is this time that´s unique in our history. It´s the first global awakening of the subsets of the power hierarchy. Just to find out how similar our needs are...
RegioLunar 6 months ago
Cartesian atheism is going to destroy everything. Absolutely everything. And when it is over, science will still be telling us that it wasn't to blame.
petrus4 6 months ago
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donyunger 5 months ago
One of the western civilizations problems is in the phenomenon of group psychology. We follow the group and do as others, and breaking the pattern is hard. We can individually understand that we live in an unsustainable way, but to change that is hard, since we are all dependent on the group, and the collective culturally influence world view is so deep and overriding (genetic causes), and rationalizing.
Axbent 6 months ago
I blame Renee Descartes and Charles Darwin, as being the ideological progenitors and enablers of our current environmental destruction.
Descartes because his philosophy was completely anti-animistic; he saw everything as a machine, humans included. Darwin because natural selection is used to justify psychopathy.
petrus4 6 months ago
This is great stuff and I'm onboard with almost all of it. I disagree on his belief that porn is bad however. For men who look at marriage, and the predatory destructive family court system with distrust, well it gives them a choice. Instead of becoming a wallet for some woman long enough to have a couple kids before throwing you out, you can instead just dial up a bit of porn a few times a week and get it over with. Then you can go on with your life unexploited and free of being victimized.
vention4wh 6 months ago
2. Women are always complaining about men and how we're always bothering them for sex and honestly men want far more than women do. Porn however allows a man to defuse his sex drive before it becomes a problem for anyone. And isn't it odd that violent rape has decreased by 85% in the last 25 years and that just happens to match up with the great availability of internet porn. Some say porn lets potential rapists work out their weirdness by themselves instead of hurting people. I believe it.
vention4wh 6 months ago
Darwin said: Survival of the most "adaptable", not the most fit.So the ppl that improve the enviroment to suit them will live longest, like the Indians in the Amazon for example that improved the soil with charcoal...
Axbent 6 months ago
@Axbent In the context of evolution adaptable was the life form adapted by changing it's nature to fit changes in the environment, not the life form modifying it's environment. Nice try at spinning Darwin, but it's irrelevant. Modern man is not showing any inclination to use sustainable practices that will even slow the destruction of the environment, much less improve anything.
donyunger 5 months ago
Very interesting! Thanks for posting!
Revolutionisnow1 6 months ago
"Forests precede us and deserts dog our heels." Great upload, thank you!! Derrick is great, and I was fortunate enough to be able to see him speak when he came to my town. His books are eye-opening to say the least. Keep up the great work, Peak Moment!
xs0heavenly 6 months ago
I must be evolving. That's a good thing. :) I mention this because this time, more than ever before, on a much deeper level (circumventing the intellect), I really got what Derrick was talking about. As always Janaia, wonderful interview!! Thank you so much.
monterock100 6 months ago
Beautiful. Thank you. Where was this filmed?
salmon19 6 months ago
@salmon19, this was filmed in our mobile studio, parked near Crescent City, in the northwest corner of California.
peakmoment 6 months ago
As long as no suffering is inflicted, which is impossible considering factory farms. A cow is a bit smarter ,and feels more than 'a brocoli''. A cow has a nervous system!
I hate it when people compare plants and aniamls, as the same, whenever the word vegetarian or vegan is spoken.
RosElisabeth 6 months ago
"fully mutual relationships" ...spot on
thank-you for sharing
gaiagale 6 months ago
Those rich crooks wants to do away with law which shows they are devolving and uncivilized and are actually turning into animals. I believed they used Gambling so much it has perverted their minds and they used it to manipulate people and enslave them. Men are want slaves are animals, I tell you!
Licmycat 6 months ago
Yeah, this the guy i've been recommended for readin' his great books,...thumbs up to ya Janaia and thankin' ya for the COOL UPLOAD!! = )
qualqui 6 months ago