Overgrowth Alpha 159 changes - Wolfire Games

[MrJackiesUtube]

Adding on to my roll comment on the other video, it would also even out the playing field so that no one type of player/ai is too OP.

[joaovictor1994]

One does not simply type this fast.

[BrandonBlaze904]

this guy should stop making videos and focus on making his game!

[reptarrawks1]

@BrandonBlaze904 hes not the only one and it will only take 5 minutes to make this video. Do you not like update videos as the game progresses?

[BrandonBlaze904]

@reptarrawks1 yeah but do you see AAA titles making weekly videos. i read once that even companies like blizzard said once in a interview. when a reporter asked him

reporter: howcome we haven't heard about diablo 3 for awhile

jay Wilson: because we have to many things to do

[reptarrawks1]

@BrandonBlaze904 is this a AAA title? No its not. Its four guys working on a awesome, fresh game idea and they want to keep in touch with there supporters.

[ronnysoeberg]

What the hell... How.. does anyone type that fast.... I can't even think that fast...

[MrRazzeldazzel88]

preordered

[TheRadicalOneNG]

1:33 "Where did the ground go?!"

[bashscrazy]

man this game looks so sweet!

[wizzkiller92]

Why the fuck haven't I preorderd this yet.

[BotheredMe]

Paycheck, come sooner.

[CooKidMcRib]

Those combat parameters for individual characters could be sick in a story setting, like you have to fight different rounds of different style enemies in some tournament...

[CooKidMcRib]

Press the U key while selecting what you want to edit.

[Simonetto007]

Pof...Pof....Pof.....PLACK (ups,i think i broked his backs...)

0:17 - 0:26

Rabbit Omnicide in 2:04 to 2:20

[MortalDragonfly]

I'm not a programmer and can only understand about 40% of what you are talking about, but every one of these videos fascinates me.

[immetje9]

@144bulldog Look at the character, seems like the stance isn't faster than normally

[colesutra]

Is there a way to alter enemy AI behavior based on the number of enemy AI's present? Say for instance, a group of five weak enemies will act confidently, but knock three or four down, and the remaining AI's will become more cautious or try to retreat?

[Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz]

How do you edit parameters?

[xskate750]

@Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz Control - U

[FrendlyGamer]

@Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz It's Ctrl+Shift+U

[Raagdoll123z]

@Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz Ctrl U

[fireyblackdragon]

@Fizzbuzzbizzfuzz go into editor, select a node, press u, then set "run speed" to 300 and attack knockback to 999999 if you want enemies who's torso stays, but all of their limbs are stretched into the distance! if you kill a second guy, you will crash

[moeezk7]

what program is this?

[ZakX11]

I have no frikkin idea what this guy just said but I'm gonna have fun playing Overgrowth : Bunny Wars!

[zombieman222]

When he types the video is sped up.

[aciegrandma]

knives, body throwing, air kills, new dodges, armor, and bow and arrows.

[aciegrandma]

you guys should add:

[garavel222]

This is a test of displaying lots and lots of text

in a text box, to see how it expands and then

finally adds a scroll bar. I think it needs about

five lines before it has scrolling. This should

add the last line! Yay!

[HammerNHook]

Anyone know how to make spawned dudes attack in the alpha?

[D8mien1]

I saw the "he types fast" comments, and thought "can't be that fast". Holy.... Shit. That is some insane typing. wow. thats crazy.

[VeilSideSamp]

press 1 for DERP!

[Wookiee81]

0:55 to 1:02 44 words in 7 seconds almost 380 wpm... O.o took me longer than that to write this comment!

[Beelzebub971]

0:51 this...is...SPARTA!

[masenz]

Most excellent AI

[Usiema]

hard mode. XD

excellent.



[H0ll0wPho3nix]

does anybody knw what game engine theyre using to make this game?thanks

[Willwowlol]

@H0ll0wPho3nix it's their own, phoenix engine :)

[supahrazy]

i have a suggestion, online freeroam multiplayer, this is, multiple players playing online on the same map, each with their skins and names.

[zwerty007]

@supahrazy There will be multiplayer, but it won't be open-world. They've said so quite a few times.

[ERKRAKANARB]

@supahrazy ohhh how fucking original.

[achillesian]

this guy types fast as fuck

[ulkord]

@achillesian its obviously sped up

[yakuza941]

@achillesian He's a programmer.

[prump1]

@achillesian either his typing skills are to the insane, or he edited the video so that it only looks like that, because if you look closely then you notice that hes erasing the characters so goddamn fast it is unhuman without two backspaces, plus if you open notepad and just mash your keyboard, then you are only typing around as fast or slower than that, and you just cant get that good at typing.

[lagging199527]

@achillesian Well he is a coder.

[Shanelololol]

@achillesian i think he was fastforwarding

[dany080]

@achillesian and he type is soo good that he creates something! :O

[reefpirate]

@achillesian That depends... How fast does fuck type?

[kyleisreallycool]

@reefpirate pretty fucking fast

[bearoyay]

@achillesian Well hes pretty popular for righting a lot of code in a weeks time period.

...

a lot of code.

[JaTochNietDan]

@achillesian I know there are people that can type that fast, but I do think it's actually sped up a little, look at how fast he deletes his mistakes of multiple characters, I don't think anyone can physically press the backspace key that fast. Unless he has a high timer on the repeating nature of the key, which I doubt! I type fairly speedy too, about 110 words per minute.

[11zoomzoom11]

@achillesian He is a coder...

[nhydock]

Just wondering if the parameter system will eventually be modified to allow creating passive characters such as NPCs which you can interact with and will display text.

[AniCator]

@nhydock From now on Overgrowth will be known as Skyrim with Rabbits. xD

[MisterShizno]

Will there be christmas discount?

[Soopination]

How do we edit the displayed text on a text hotspot and the properties of an ai opponent

[culdain]

whats next, a game about raping dogs?

[culdain]

fur shit



[dogzer]

I bought this game, but the terrain is flat, there's no grass! Am I supposed to activate it?

[YakuzaBoss]

If his typing was sped up, why is the bunny's idle animation playing at normal speed?

[triplehcro]

Just look how hard they work on Overgrowth!

Makes me rage how lazy fucks like Notch who works once per month is more popular and respected than those guys.

[ZechsMerquise73]

You just sold me this game. Well, I was gonna buy it anyway once it was a little more developed. You're my favorite developer, you know that? When I first started watching, I had no real interest in the game, but I saw you were really skilled and had a great way of expressing yourself. I've watched almost every video, and its something I wait for in the week; as much as I do my favorite television shows.

[jimporfit]

Sorry about double posting, but as "Oharryooyo" previously brought up,

Do you have any intentions of a demonstration download of any sort? I would like to see how my computer runs this game, and would like to know how the game feels.

[jimporfit]

That was the inspiration for the rabbit AI? Not the fact that realism is a huge flaw of gaming, the fact that humans are very hard to recreate, the fact that humanoids have less of an effect on the community because people don't mind killing them as much, and that it's always a good thing to have something interesting and different in your game, and not the same old humans?

[IRL337Gamer]

@jimporfit AI have to be realistic and smart idiot. Having realistic AI is what gives the game a challenge, especially in an action game.

[oharryooyo]

can you make a demo for this game pls :D ?

[IRL337Gamer]

@oharryooyo you can download the alpha if you've pre ordered, though I wouldn't recommend pre ordering an unfinished game, I learnt my lesson with minecraft.

[frostytheaussie]

combat seems like some interesting kind of blend of Batman: Arkham Asylum and Demon's Souls combat (or, Batman: Arkham City and Dark Souls)

[Epsilonic]

1:34 "I have to go now, my planet needs me."

[gatsby2367]

The men creating Overgrowth are GODS of videogaming. Even if the actual game ends up never being released or they all die in one of the most tragic events in history, I will personally never forget that they actually contributed to videogames as a form of entertainment, and truly attempted to push the medium. THIS IS WHAT A VIDEOGAME SHOULD BE.

[xamanto]

@gatsby2367 Afaik it's only one man.

[BRBSHUTUPNOOB]

@xamanto No. 1 man cant create a game like this. i think theres 3 people in the team.

[newdoom3]

why are there not enough people like Wolf fire who actually make games and innovate the industry rather those who are stuck in the past playing " RETRO BOY ADVENTURE 2: FEATURING MORE GIMMICKS AND GRAPHICS FROM THE SNES ERA"

[321cheeseman]

@newdoom3 As much as I think "retro" can be done very well, and not just be an excuse for low quality graphics and outdated gameplay, I really could not agree more.

[digitalgenre]

@newdoom3 I thinks it's just Wolfire.

[8linck8]

@newdoom3 They take TOO long though... I understand how the game is awesome & Theyre not really a huge game developing company, But still... Taking too long kills the hype, And my hype is dead.

Ive been ignoring this for like 4 months now, Just here coz I saw it on some other vid.

Honestly, Not exciting at all...

[CrackedRoof]

@8linck8

Go make your own game with 3 other people helping you.

[8linck8]

@CrackedRoof Typical Youtube comment that didnt take 2secs to think about...

[newdoom3]

@8linck8 Doom3 was in developement for 4 years. Serious sam 3 was in developement for 4 years. Half life 2 was in developement for 4 years.

Great games sometimes take years to finish.

alot of coding, programming, designing, manufacturing data, testing, working out algorythms, studying languages and C++ coding, science of monitoring and reworking hundreds of functions on an engine built by 2 people.

Making videogames is actually, really really hard. very hard.

[Somefurfag]

@newdoom3

> Half-Life 2

> Great

Maybe if you love bland and uninteresting.

[newdoom3]

@Somefurfag FUCKING MAYBURY

[8linck8]

@newdoom3 Uhmm, Well I certainly didnt know that :P

Any idea how far this is from actually releasing though? Making games IS hard, But making something like HF2 is harder than making a game like this.

I understand its 2 people, But they should have developed their studio more (Release smaller games) before trying such a big thing.

Dont get me wrong, This game looks AWESOME as hell, But it seems to be too much for only 2 guys, And it shows on the time spent. :P

[newdoom3]

@8linck8 I'm guessing 2 more years. this is a huge project. the ambitions and goals in the project seem like somthing compared to a big developer game, regarding open world like structure, interaction with enviroment and adventure genre. they have combat and gameplay very tuned and clean, its a matter of adding tads and bits of variety, weapons and levels. their last game lugaru was the same type of game but graphics made development time very quick compared to overgrowth.

[8linck8]

@newdoom3 I can notice the fighting is very clean & IDK, The way they move is just awesome to watch. Simply watching the dev videos is very entertaining. Awesome game indeed, Graphics are also very good. But all Im trying to say is that they went over their heads with this one.

Sure they have the skill to make it & They know how to make it, But they should have grown more as a studio before taking in such a project. Its coming out great, But its taking a bit too long, If you know what I mean :P

[deadly840]

@8linck8 It can never take to long :o just have patience this will be a great game. But how David keeps his motivation is extraordinary. 

[8linck8]

@deadly840 Yeah, I think it must be really fun working on this.

I myself cant work on something for THAT long without getting "OMFG I love you!!" every 5mins, Or else Ill be too unmotivated to keep working.

But when I do stuff like Photoshop orso I can sometimes stay a whole day (And I mean since the time I wake up to the time I go to sleep) working on 1 thing & Because I like it I never stop.

[wurmis3d]

@8linck8 If they had more people and sped it up it would end up being sloppy like most other games, where they go so fast that they miss parts and don't check it, then you just get a big mess of features and bugs like Minecraft.

[fashnek]

@newdoom3 It's called a market with deadlines and employees who need financial security for their families and health bills.

[ChanceHogan]

@newdoom3 people will always find something to complain about.

[newdoom3]

@ChanceHogan but minecraft is shit.

[L1n71np4rk]

@newdoom3 because it alot easier and cheaper to make it look retro.

[Maurosso]

The last brawl...i mean...like...wow

[Joowz]

waiting for a DBZ mod.

[Vidyadude]

@SLEEPYHEAD901

It's sped up

[GuiltyZ123]

@Vidyadude Its not.

[Vidyadude]

@GuiltyZ123

It is to. You can see the bracket thing blinking faster than normal.

[GuiltyZ123]

@Vidyadude No, you cant. Also the idle animation stays normal.

[Alcatron04]

This guy's a coding genius

[yobobjm]

multiplayer survival mode would be amazing

[MadComputerScientist]

Any way to flatten that grass when under foot/corpse?

[TheXRealXBrapp]

Ya know what's weird? I've been following this game for a LONG time, and I still haven't preordered it. The technology demonstrations are so interesting, but I don't know if I would like the game. I'm into parkour, and it seems really fun to do in this game, but I don't care for fighting at all, so I'm kind of worried about getting it. And I also don't know what the full game will be like, so I'm not gonna pre-order it for 30 bucks. Maybe $15...

[zwerty007]

@TheXRealXBrapp Get it. It's very rewarding, and the editor is so much fun to use.

[quietthomas]

Jean Claude vand damn waskily wabbits.

[Captainumerica]

I was admiring your video presenting the vectored blood maps, will you add blood and bruises to the fighters too?

[rob1the1dob]

how come my screen goes black as soon as i choose a level when i play it?

[sheepow2]

0:53 actual version of an Erupting Burning FIINGA

[rekindledphoenix]

A much needed update. Great job wolfire team! I like the fact that you could essentially have a dozen "minions" (DnD definition) and one boss that has unique properties to that particular battle. Keep up the great work!

[SuperFREEXBOXLIVECOD]

this game will never be done

[eneekmot]

So will the player be able to level his stats RPG-style throughout the game?

[DragonZaita]

That typing speed is ridiculous, even for coding. That has to be 120+ WPM, no wonder you can update so quickly.

[dogbot55]

This is a test of displaying lots and lots of

text in a text box, to see how it expands

and then finally adds a scroll bar. I think it

needs about five lines before is has

scrolling. This should add the last line!

Yay!

[Triskitout]

I think this has exposed to me a very core fault in the combat system. Is there any point where a player with supernatural reflexes (Ie a computer) or natural muscle memory to even be hit? Or could they infinitely dodge and block everything? Is there any method of breaking a guard? A heavy blow? A tackle? I'm uncomfortable with the thought that when fighting an AI a simple Rand.Int(1,100) if greater than blocking determines whether or not I hit them.

[geflaginob]

@Triskitout If you're not familiar with any martial arts, the general idea among the more proficient practitioners is something called attacking "in the simultaneous." You can do this in Overgrowth by either performing the same attack as your opponent a few milliseconds prior to him, or intercepting an incoming attack with a faster one. It works every time, no matter how skilled the opponent.

[wekhter]

Seems like it might be interesting to have a "timid" behavior that makes enemies run away if they become outnumbered. It felt as if the last guard at 0:45 wanted to, but didn't know how.

[DrSCHNO]

Hey, sorry if I'm a bit of a scrub, but what is language is this coded in? Oh and is 1:16 Visual studio?

[TrentR42]

@DrSCHNO Likely C++ and using a number of C libraries. When it shows code in this video around the 1:16 mark, that's a scripting file, not code. It could be any program with a syntax highlighter (Notepad++ to GVim to Visual Studio to MinGWDS)

Since they're targeting this to multiplatform, it's *super* unlikely that they're using Visual Studio. IIRC, the Visual Studio C compiler has some weird behaviors, it likes to ignore things that would usually prevent other compilers from compiling.

[deadly840]

I'm loving this alpha the parameters open alot of new possibilties, you can fight a bunny as fast as a matrix agent or have sword fights with high health so they last extremely long and everybody is all red from all the blood.

[BRBSHUTUPNOOB]

The man with the million dollar engine. :3

[hawkwreak]

See. I subscribed for humble bundle stuff. However, I have no idea what this is, but it contains Kung Fu Rabbits..... Imma preorder this when I get my next wage :3

[gilesahrun]

Well, I think I discovered the secret why/how he types so fast... Here:

v=PkyZGZRnQb4

[CharlieboiiGaming]

@gilesahrun lol

[ScottMcTony]

So, make a group of enemies slightly less aggressive. Make the player character much tougher. Spawn 8 enemies. Batman Mode?

[mastatsan]

@ScottMcTony Or make a hundred enemies that all look the same, do little damage, and block a lot, but take very little damage to defeat, and give the player super strength and super jumping... Burly Brawl Mode.

[GanjaMunchman]

Why animals"furries" ?

People are going to mod the shit out of this, and not in a good way :p

[gilesahrun]

@GanjaMunchman Because although David likes action games, he don't feel comfortable in make a game in which a human being kills another. So he always used abstract characters on his games. Plus, he likes the idea of an animal, known by its docility, being violent against other rabbits (and wolves).

[DaKakis]

@GanjaMunchman Furries would have human qualities, these are straight-up giant rabbits. Even if they were furries, it doesn't mean shit when a game is awesome. But yeah, there will be mods obviously.

[NotRaPoSa0CiNzEnTa]

@GanjaMunchman Oh, I wish furries beat the crap out of eachother like in this game.

Sadly, they don't. These are not "furries".

[GrzegorzStyczen]

Typing speed o_O

[EatNipples]

@GrzegorzStyczen i guess it's speeded up...else it would be very scary

[monkeh008]

Love the way the enemies surround you!

[TheLemonDuB]

Is no one impressed by his apm?

[efrankie90]

These videos are ingenious to me, I love how you show your problems and then explain the algorithms behind it. It always seems so amazingly simple, yet so clever and logical.

[morthjr]

0:40

Power Rangers

[HabeKeinMitleid]

This engine is amazing.

[crazyjak56]

They should market this as robot fighting simulator and then say they're also giving you a free "Other" game.

[crazyjak56]

@crazyjak56 sorry I meant rabbit fighting simulator.

[MdgetCow]

Thats the fastes fuckimg typing ive ever seen.

[GiantDoucheNG]

TIme to go beta maybe?...

[H4LFM4D]

the general consensus seems to be that your typing exceeds the awe of the game you and 3(?) other people made, which looks amazing.

[Firetaffer]

IS THAT TYPING REAL TIME? OH MY GOD :O TELL ME YOUR WAYS!

[dagdamor1]

Turner got WRECKED

[TheLetterY13]

lol i posted that right before i saw him scripting... lol

[Bleenderhead]

@TheLetterY13 That isn't the game's actual language. It's Javascript, which the game reads to make modifications. It's like saying Crysis was made in Lua because the AI behavior is governed by Lua scripts.

[TheLetterY13]

what language do you guys program in? im guessing java or c++

[JoseChester]

Everytime I see these videos I think, "Goddamn this game is so bad ass"

Then..rabbits.

And I still love it

[riken1]

00:47 - 00:51 "Whats good nyuka!! Whats really good! That's why you got kicked in yo chest!!"

[facuriosan]

you should make that if big groups get depleted to 1 group member he should get scared and starts running away that would make the player feel powerfull

[1fishkungfu]

They're uh...they're flocking this way.

[d123s404]

Those are some nice improvements, but I think you forgot to dust the rabbits off one you were done. :p

[stickman1925]

1:44 RUN LIKE HELL

[doboworth]

Had an idea for group fights. Say there's like 5 enemies, they all start out as a sort of "easy" level. But with each one that is taken out, their difficulty increases. So by the last one, it's a seriously hard dude but still one of the guys from the start.

Probably wouldn't fit into story but would make for a nice challenge map type.

[boks111]

If you guys still have not comprehended it yet, his audio is a voice over, meaning he edited the video then added his voice, so when he was typing, that was fast forwarded. He does not have 23456789 fingers to type that fast, unless he plays Starcraft.

[Godshelp09]

@boks111 It's not fast forwarded. Look at how the mouse moves in the same scene, and also watch the character. It's normal speed, this guy has some serious typing skills.

I wish I could type that fast.

[DarmanFett]

@Godshelp09 Or its a macro but I agree with you coders do have typing skills

[Composer1992]

@boks111 I thought so too, until I watched the rabbit moving up and down at the same speed the whole time when he was typing. Doesn't look fast forwarded.

[Franchan10]

more crack

[Gubru]

Is that how fast you really type?

[MrMelonMonkey]

It would be nice to have a control settings menu because my and possibly others keyboards,too, have defect keys

[cubeface21]

Fuckin awesome.

[powergannon]

Wow. This is an awesome update. Really cool.

[Thial1000]

0:26 FALCON KICK!!!!