@angel102ify I only bring up have you ever been to ireland Cus no1 fully understands what it was like here unless u been here n lived it n your more than welcome to have n opionion but no offence ur opionion doesnt matter to me Cus your opionion comes from the internet lol
@Unemployedprovo You are right, i havent lived in Irelnd or NI, BUT i have grown up in germany with father in the royal artillery having to check under our car for bombs and he also served in NI, i have lived in scotland in the middle of constant bigotry between celtic and rangers "fans" and orange walks and everything that comes with it, and i have lived in london and manchester, both regular targets for the IRA as you know, so yes i do have a valid opinion, just a you do.
@angel102ify ur full of shit talkijn about loads of other countries when the battlefeilds where our streets, one person died in that bomb, smaller bombs killed a dozen at a time in N.I , how can u relate if you never saw the battlefeild?
@angel102ify Yeah that's very true the majority do but that's because the majority aren't Irish YET the majority are foreign who roots lay with eng although the native Irish catholic community is growing n fast n with in the next 5 ta 10 it will b n Irish
@angel102ify well I lived in England for two years n every Englishman I ever asked always denied being British that they are English..,aren't you trying to say that people in NIR aren't Irish well I'm from NI n I'm as Irish as any1 from the south if not even more so it's in the heart not on paper..., anyway wat would a half English half Scottsman no about Ireland anyway have you ever been in Ireland
@Unemployedprovo Where your heart lies is down to you, not anyone else just the same as mine, The majority of people in NI want to remain part of the UK, and thats a fact that you cant deny, In answer to your question no i have never been to northern ireland or the republic, My father has tho. However just because i have never been doesnt mean i cant have an opinion about it,the same as you are allowed does it? Being able to express ideas is the fundamental right in a democracy
@angel102ify no they dont its a slim majority cause there are more prods than taigs plus some people would rather smile with their oppressor, i want to be independant from uk and the free state make ni a tax haven and legalise weed. it wud be like the isle of man but bigger and with an amsterdam touch, plus we wud all be high as fuck and at peace. apart from the fundamental christians they can all fight it out till the last man while we create a united northern ireland!
@Unemployedprovo I have no problem that you disagree ith me at all, You raise valid points about a rational arguement, unlike that idiot mrtaximan2234 The history of Irelnd and Britain is a long one, and i am the first to admit that in much of its history Britain has shit on a lot of people, not just there but i dont hold the son to the sins of the father so to speak, Since if i did i would have a pretty big beef with almost every country in the world, wouldnt i?
@angel102ify but they can't be scottish scotland part of great Britain making them british or according to you anyway the english don't even class them selves British why should we proud to be Irish Pitty you you can't say the Same about being Scottish
@Unemployedprovo You seem to think i have some vendetta against the irish, i dont, what i do have a problem with is people blowing up men, women and children in the name of a "free" Ireland or any other cause, Whether its catholic, protestant, sunni,shia, jewish or any other faith that is abused, twisted and warped in the name of terrorism. Ghandi and Martin luther King are people i revere, not people who plant nailbombs in pubs, or shoot at soldiers on a night off with a pizza.
@angel102ify listen to urself you mong, when one of your soilders does it to a fuckin afghan kid or rapes a woman hes a hero. or a sniper shoots 50 people from 800yds away and he too is a fuckin hero, and welcomed back into society with open arms never mind the fact hes a glorified cerial killer. wars dirty women and kids get killed , in the army its called collateral damage, bloody sunday ring a bell? up the ra brits like you should read more
@Unemployedprovo i Have never told a scotsman he isnt scottish, since both my parents are scottish and i have lived there for 5 years myself. And as i said earlier to someone else, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom not the republic of Ireland, so yes they are british and i dont think that will change in my lifetime.
@AnimalWelfare1000 No they arent Irish, they are British. And i dont see it changing in my lifetime, There is more chance of the Scilly isles or the Falklands declaring independance. Britain has the same right to be in NI as America does in Hawai. It IS part of Britain and thats a simple fact.
@angel102ify what planet are u on?ireland north and south will be reunited soon,it is and never part of uk.it is island of ireland.take your loyol subjects from ulster and put them with the asians and africans and other half breds from ur colonys.we did not colonise anywhere so leave us alone.ireland for irish .and malvinnas for argentina. ira rule
@MrTaximan1234 "put them with the asians and africans and other half breds from ur colonys"
People like you are the reason this world is so fucked up mate, Atleast have the intelligence and the balls to make a resonable debate rather than this racist bollocks you spout from that mouth of yours, And as for the FALKLANDS, then yeah sure i look forward to the day argentina try and invade it again, It has been british for almost 180 years, and there is no reason for that to change.
@angel102ify u un educated english cunt.why should a island 4k away fom england be brittish?like ireland ye came raped plundered and colonised and now its payback time with ur halfbreds running riot all over ur citys.was it not for the bravery of ira for 30 years ye would still have ur sectarian state.we are winning and ira is still a undefeated army.only regret is ira did not blow more of ye huns up.get out of my country and malvinnas
@AnimalWelfare1000 Your not telling me anything i didnt know already, you seem to think i support what the English parliament did back then, i certianly dont, but i do not blame the modern government for what happened 50,100,200,500 years ago.Otherwise i would still blame the current german government for WW2, it just doesnt apply.
I have read irish history, from Cromwell, to the potato blight to bloody sunday and most things in between as a matter of fact im not an expert but im not ignorant either, And that doesnt mean i believe shooting a policeman who was doing his job in answering a call for help is in anyway justified, in ANY way.
I dont even know his name, whoever he was he was just unlucky like all other victims, we didnt create this problem, its the nine years war & the ulster plantations if you wanna understand about northern ireland
@ProvosAttYourDoor His name was Stephen Carroll, from Banbridge, Co Down. and he didnt create the problem either, didnt stop 2 terrorist murderers from spilling innocent blood of someone trying to help his community tho did it?
@angel102ify, stephen carroll aye, he was unlucky, CIRA felt they had to hit somebody as well after the RIRA done the 2 soldiers, that was the stone cold reason for it mate, not a good thing at all, I wish things werent like that, theres only one eventual solution for it all
@ProvosAttYourDoor you have your problems with the british government, i accept that, but that is never an excuse to murder innocent people in the name of "freedom" what the IRA and its offshoots do is nothing more than cold blooded murder. whether its in Omagh or london or manchester, its all the same.
@angel102ify, I dont have a problem with anybody, Ive got my life sorted fine, I understand why it all happens though, there wouldnt even be an IRA in the first place if........ ye know
@ProvosAttYourDoor well seeing as the vast majority of people living in NI want to remain part of the United Kingdom then yeah, there is only one solution, and thats for the IRA(in whatever form it is in to this day) to stop murdering people.
@angel102ify, theres no such place as NI, its an artificial state, let the whole of Ireland decide, let the whole of Ulster decide even... nah they already made sure that couldnt happen, they knew fine well what would happen by dividing the country, even these ones today, you think they care about stephen carroll?, or any of them soldiers....... operations like this is what hurt them the most
@angel102ify, I dont see a problem with it, they messed about too much after the '94 ceasefire, this got their attention again without actually killing anybody, maybe a little thank you might even be in order?
@angel102ify, this is how you fight a guerrilla war, if they wanted to kill people like the al qaeda monkeys, this is a perfect example of how they couldve done it, its a war against the government not the people, if you have to call them terrorists fine, theyre gentleman terrorists at least though
@angel102ify, I think its a lot more honourable than droppin bombs on people from 13'000 ft aye, you dont understand anything you, rupert murdoch decides what simple people like you think, dum dum
@ProvosAttYourDoor Im the dum dum? haha ok mate, thats your opinion and your entitled to it. By the way, the only thing Rupert Murdoch has decided for me for the last 22 of my 30 years on this planet is which newspapers i wont be reading and which TV channels i wont be paying for.
@angel102ify, read about Irish history if you want reasons for why things like this happen, you wont get anything from sky or bbc about it, theyre too ashamed and so they should be
@ProvosAttYourDoor And do gentlemen murder a policeman who was answering a call for help from a woman on a housing estate in Co. Armagh? no i didnt think so, Grow up little boy.
@cillianmacailin what a silly thing to say. That would only increase the risk of a loyalist nutter bombing the repulic in retaliation. People are waiting for the IRA and if the time comes they'll go to war, and when your young son or brother is lying in a pool of blood with his head blown off you might think the IRA and the bombing of innocent civs isn't such a good idea. Spoken like a true republican though, one that has prob never been to NI in his life.
@jamessential go fuck yourself lad ive been on your youtube account all day long you sit behind your computer and give all the abuse of the day like a hard man. . . . and ive lived in antrim all my life
Just what was the point in all of this bombing Canary Wharf, the Manchester Arndale etc. nonsense? I recently had to write an essay about all of this and I found it really hard to draw a conclusion as to who was to blame.
@aceamen The main point in bombing London and Manchester etc. was because one bomb in England was worth a 1000 bombs in Belfast.To scare the British government etc. it was much more effective to target the mainland UK.The IRA saw it as a way of achieving their goals quicker (Britain out of Ireland) but it had mixed results.In some ways it enforced the british government not to give into them but on the other hand it brought them closer to the negotiating table.
@1984ioc I am emphatic in my opposition to Republican terrorism.
Having said that, those two bombings in 1996 were easily the most effective operations the Provisional IRA ever undertook. Two major bombings in mainland cities and within two years the British had not just come back to the negotiating table, but also had signed the Good Friday Accord.
Having said that, the outcomes of GFA were practically the same as Sunningdale; Republicans could have just accepted that in 1973.
@disamjisa How far back would you associate Republican actions as terrorism do you mind me asking?Would be interested to hear what an outsider thinks.
Do you have British roots by any chance or do you only listen to/read/watch British media and broadcasting or was your education coming from a british perspective?
@1984ioc I come from a strongly British perspective in many ways, being an Australian born British-Australian dual citizen with a long family history of military and civil service to the British Empire (with all the knighthoods and honours that go with it),.
However, my commitment to the principle of self-determination far outweights sentimental attachment to Britain and the former empire,.
The United Ireland and Young Ireland rebellions were entirely justified and honourable course.
@1984ioc (reply 2) The Anglo-Irish war of 1919-1921 to be a legitimate war of independence where the people had a clearly distinct cultural and religious orientation, and were expected to be ruled from Westminster by English and Scot aristocrats, and protestant landholders in Ireland who were manytime absentee landlords living a lavish lifestyle in London off the backbreaking labour of their Catholic tenants. There is no doubt in my mind that Ireland had an unqualified right to independence
@1984ioc (reply 3) That war was very ugly on both sides, but from the Irish side entirely justified considering tactical imperitives as they were fighting the pre-eminent world superpower. However, the Easter Rising, which concievably could have led to an Allied collapse onthe western front, was an enormous blunder and a stain on the honour of the (Old) Ira. Even worse were the attacks on Britain before and during WW2 when we were fighting the most evil and dangerous regime in world history.
@1984ioc (reply 4) In terms of PIRA's campaign, I utterly acknowledge that the Catholic's of Northern Ireland, politically and economically disenfranchised, needed an armed, political force to defend them physically against Unionist serial killers, and that the refusal of the British to recognise Sinn Fein made the use of force morally justifiable. However, in my mind that does not justify attacking civilians (like the Remembrance Day attack) or meting out summary executions.
@1984ioc (reply 5) In terms of my perspective, clearly I do have a British background, but I took my undergraduate degree at the University of Sydney, where support and sympathy for the IRA is extremely high. Being a history grad, I do try to research the claims of both sides; I don't think there are many disputes of fact in terms of PIRA actions, just differences of interpretations. PIRA does not deny murdering or maiming 70 innocents in the Remembrance Day bombing. I feel that ws a heinous act
@1984ioc (reply 6) To summarise my views, I sympathise with the Republican cause in many ways, but disagree with some aspects of their use of force, and feel that it was often counterproductive and morally unjustifiable.
@CountryAndFolkMusic ahahahhahahahhahahahhahaha, hilarious. the best thing the IRA have done was to blow up manchester which caused a regeneration and it's nice now. the best thing britain has done? brought peace to the world, cured problems, helped civilization grow into what it is today, stopped several hundered wars, stopped the whole world from becoming hitler's world, stalin's world etc, etc. britain has done the best things for the world, and the IRA has blown up some places. very heroic.
@ghostedfrequency You really like the image of the all powerful British? Britain has caused a hell of a lot more problems than the IRA ever will. They butchered hundreds of native tribes, displaced them, abused them and raped the country of its resources. I often wonder who are the real terrorists? Without the British, there would be a need for the IRA, nor the Taliban.
@ghostedfrequency No you didn't. You were stopped in your tracks by bigger dogs,namely USA and Russia.And btw you didn't stop Germany in ww2.Russia did that.
@Rowan616 shut the fuck up the british cause hundreds and i mean hundreds to die in our land 95% catholics. Is ireland free ? No it is not so we shall keep fighting !!
what has ireland invented, they are the lowest race of people you are like africa worthy of being in the chamber to be used as farm fertilizer, only keep some pretty irish lass for sex
The thing is, Ireland isn't actually worth bombing. The actual British people have actually achieved things, such as Canary Wharf. But what has Ireland achived? They have mad a beer, so what? Britain all the way!
@CarBonkers "The actual British people have actually achieved things, such as Canary Wharf."
How is that an achievement. Its a couple of tall buildings which benefit private business mostly banks, mostly the people who fucked this country up. If that is all you can think of as an achievement then its no wonder you cant think of anything good to say about Ireland. I'm glad people like you are the minority.
@CarBonkers hahaha u make me laugh ireland hasnt acheived anything haha.we where one of the first to explore the antartic ..we designed the whitehouse .we gave the most money per person to charity then any other country in the world .we've given the world u2 , bob geldof people who change the world for the best .we won the eurovision a record 7 times .we beat england in football all the time oh next we play use and use are getting beaten dont wreck the stadium again please sore losers
@CarBonkers You disgust me, how could you actually say something like that. Britain took advantage of a smaller country and you expect that some wont be angry about that? Just a little facts for you, the British burned down peoples houses in Ireland during the famine, when people where at their weakest and threw them out of their homes. I am glad Britain only owns Northern Ireland but hopefully NI will become part of the South again some day. YOU DISGUST ME.
If you're an Irish person, you have no excuse to not know the history of the famine. The famine was devastating and apocalyptic as it is, without needing your silly accusations that the British government was burning people's houses at the time.
Why don't you do a bit of research into the subject? Find out that several laws were passed in Westminster, and it was regarded as a calamity of the worst order. Then you might be able to truly appreciate how awful the famine was
@disamjisa I understand where your coming from but they actually did burn down peoples houses because they could afford to pay the rent when the brits came and stole their land.
@W81049 Who burned down houses? What are you talking about Brits coming to steal their land?
Ireland had been part of the United Kingdom for about a half century by the time of the famine. Please expain "when the Brits came and stole their land".
@disamjisa Cork Massacre is a prime example. British barracks attacked - british army attacks by burning down most of cork city. Ireland had technically been part of a UnitedKingdom many centuries before the famine. In my opinion, blame lies solely on an incompetent, faceless and arrogant British landlord class and authorites. blood on hands and all that lark
@donvit2 I can't see anything about the "massacre" you're referring to.
And saying "faceless and arrogant British landlord class" shows how little you know about Irish demography and the actual history of the famine.
The words all that lark shows you probably know what you're saying is bullshit, and you just like to hate the British, it's a safe mental place for you to be, rather than actually critically examining the history of the famine
@disamjisa the fucking brits dont belong in ireland never did simple most of the population never wanted them in ireland. Hundreds of years the british establishment plundered and raped this country but when the ira fights back were knowing has terrorists what a fucking joke
@IRAneverbeaten but the brits aren't in Ireland, they're in NI which is in Britain. The only people who refuse to see that are the Irish underclass, the dreggs and purile scum bags that support hatred and killing. That would be the IRa then!
@jamessential ha ha are you fucking retarded the brits are in ireland you stupid cunt they came here like a disease few hundred years ago and the ira and sinn fein are curing the country you smelly rotten tan
@CarBonkers No British companies achieved things. Im English and you cant attribute things to an entire nation, positive or negative. British military and governmet leaders created concentration camps 40 years before the Germans, you want credit for that as well. So some Irish people want (quite justifiably I think youll agree) a country free from British rule, dont mean their all shitbags.
@giftedimproviser1987 same with the english 14 men in derry, the ballymurphy massacre which a priest was killed now wtf would a priest be doing to be dangerous to the brits, the newlodge 6 theres just a few. use english think the british done nothing to this country they murderd men women and children but whenevr the ira let off a bomb which killed nobody e.g. manchester it was publicised as terrorists now why would terrorists give a warning bomb
@Tzimnewman3 Isn't it obvious?They dies due to their own stupidity, not because of the IRA.I am fully willing to sacrifice 2 brain dead idiots in the quest for a united Ireland-and so should you.
@kerryman506 "I am fully willing to sacrifice 2 brain dead idiots in the quest for a united Ireland-and so should you."
United Ireland? United with who?? Last time I check Ireland has been United with the rest of Europe for a while now. A British man is now a equal citizen to an Irish man thanks to Europe being United. Ireland is already United now and its united with a over 27 countries.
@ToxikWaltz "United with the north of irelaND you twat"
All EU states are united now which was the point I was trying to make here twat. I actually support a United Ireland (South and North only) but its rather pointless trying for that while Ireland (South) is now united with 27 other countries including the UK.
@kerryman506 Bombing a civilian target? If you want to call yourself an army, fight soldiers. Want to call yourself a child molesting faggot join the IRA.
this is the one that broke camels back aand brought britts to table.god bless our volunteers.
MrTaximan1234 1 day ago
@MrTaximan1234 Now Ireland is a broken 3rd world country, I guess they call that poetic justice.
travellingboy1 22 hours ago
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karezza6 1 week ago
Billions of GBP lost to the british economy and exchequer that set them back 20 years, LOL.
UnknownOconnor 1 month ago
@angel102ify I only bring up have you ever been to ireland Cus no1 fully understands what it was like here unless u been here n lived it n your more than welcome to have n opionion but no offence ur opionion doesnt matter to me Cus your opionion comes from the internet lol
Unemployedprovo 1 month ago
@Unemployedprovo You are right, i havent lived in Irelnd or NI, BUT i have grown up in germany with father in the royal artillery having to check under our car for bombs and he also served in NI, i have lived in scotland in the middle of constant bigotry between celtic and rangers "fans" and orange walks and everything that comes with it, and i have lived in london and manchester, both regular targets for the IRA as you know, so yes i do have a valid opinion, just a you do.
angel102ify 1 month ago
@angel102ify ur full of shit talkijn about loads of other countries when the battlefeilds where our streets, one person died in that bomb, smaller bombs killed a dozen at a time in N.I , how can u relate if you never saw the battlefeild?
Troglob1te 2 weeks ago
@angel102ify Yeah that's very true the majority do but that's because the majority aren't Irish YET the majority are foreign who roots lay with eng although the native Irish catholic community is growing n fast n with in the next 5 ta 10 it will b n Irish
Unemployedprovo 1 month ago
@angel102ify well I lived in England for two years n every Englishman I ever asked always denied being British that they are English..,aren't you trying to say that people in NIR aren't Irish well I'm from NI n I'm as Irish as any1 from the south if not even more so it's in the heart not on paper..., anyway wat would a half English half Scottsman no about Ireland anyway have you ever been in Ireland
Unemployedprovo 1 month ago
@Unemployedprovo Where your heart lies is down to you, not anyone else just the same as mine, The majority of people in NI want to remain part of the UK, and thats a fact that you cant deny, In answer to your question no i have never been to northern ireland or the republic, My father has tho. However just because i have never been doesnt mean i cant have an opinion about it,the same as you are allowed does it? Being able to express ideas is the fundamental right in a democracy
angel102ify 1 month ago
@angel102ify no they dont its a slim majority cause there are more prods than taigs plus some people would rather smile with their oppressor, i want to be independant from uk and the free state make ni a tax haven and legalise weed. it wud be like the isle of man but bigger and with an amsterdam touch, plus we wud all be high as fuck and at peace. apart from the fundamental christians they can all fight it out till the last man while we create a united northern ireland!
Troglob1te 2 weeks ago
@Unemployedprovo I have no problem that you disagree ith me at all, You raise valid points about a rational arguement, unlike that idiot mrtaximan2234 The history of Irelnd and Britain is a long one, and i am the first to admit that in much of its history Britain has shit on a lot of people, not just there but i dont hold the son to the sins of the father so to speak, Since if i did i would have a pretty big beef with almost every country in the world, wouldnt i?
angel102ify 1 month ago
@angel102ify but they can't be scottish scotland part of great Britain making them british or according to you anyway the english don't even class them selves British why should we proud to be Irish Pitty you you can't say the Same about being Scottish
Unemployedprovo 1 month ago
@Unemployedprovo who says the english dont classfy themelves as British?
i do, and im proud for it, as i said earlier both my parents are scottish, and i was born in england so im more "british" than most, wouldnt you say?
Also, when have i ever said the irish shouldnt be proud? Every Irish person i have met has been a credit to there country,
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angel102ify 1 month ago
@Unemployedprovo You seem to think i have some vendetta against the irish, i dont, what i do have a problem with is people blowing up men, women and children in the name of a "free" Ireland or any other cause, Whether its catholic, protestant, sunni,shia, jewish or any other faith that is abused, twisted and warped in the name of terrorism. Ghandi and Martin luther King are people i revere, not people who plant nailbombs in pubs, or shoot at soldiers on a night off with a pizza.
angel102ify 1 month ago
@angel102ify listen to urself you mong, when one of your soilders does it to a fuckin afghan kid or rapes a woman hes a hero. or a sniper shoots 50 people from 800yds away and he too is a fuckin hero, and welcomed back into society with open arms never mind the fact hes a glorified cerial killer. wars dirty women and kids get killed , in the army its called collateral damage, bloody sunday ring a bell? up the ra brits like you should read more
Troglob1te 2 weeks ago
@Troglob1te fair play to you comrad, you tell em ;)
kargwain187 1 week ago
@Troglob1te Well said.
I'm a British lad but I'll never stop banging the drum for a Free Ireland, and a Free Palestine!
Fuck the Union Jack, they want their country back!
patrickshoes 1 week ago
@angel102ify are you just plain stupid would tell a Scotsman hes not Scottish of course you wouldn't you idiot
Unemployedprovo 1 month ago
@Unemployedprovo i Have never told a scotsman he isnt scottish, since both my parents are scottish and i have lived there for 5 years myself. And as i said earlier to someone else, Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom not the republic of Ireland, so yes they are british and i dont think that will change in my lifetime.
angel102ify 1 month ago
@AnimalWelfare1000 Thats your view and you are entitled to it, doesnt mean i agree with you tho.
angel102ify 2 months ago
@AnimalWelfare1000 No they arent Irish, they are British. And i dont see it changing in my lifetime, There is more chance of the Scilly isles or the Falklands declaring independance. Britain has the same right to be in NI as America does in Hawai. It IS part of Britain and thats a simple fact.
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify what planet are u on?ireland north and south will be reunited soon,it is and never part of uk.it is island of ireland.take your loyol subjects from ulster and put them with the asians and africans and other half breds from ur colonys.we did not colonise anywhere so leave us alone.ireland for irish .and malvinnas for argentina. ira rule
MrTaximan1234 1 month ago
@MrTaximan1234 "put them with the asians and africans and other half breds from ur colonys"
People like you are the reason this world is so fucked up mate, Atleast have the intelligence and the balls to make a resonable debate rather than this racist bollocks you spout from that mouth of yours, And as for the FALKLANDS, then yeah sure i look forward to the day argentina try and invade it again, It has been british for almost 180 years, and there is no reason for that to change.
angel102ify 1 month ago
@angel102ify u un educated english cunt.why should a island 4k away fom england be brittish?like ireland ye came raped plundered and colonised and now its payback time with ur halfbreds running riot all over ur citys.was it not for the bravery of ira for 30 years ye would still have ur sectarian state.we are winning and ira is still a undefeated army.only regret is ira did not blow more of ye huns up.get out of my country and malvinnas
MrTaximan1234 1 month ago
@MrTaximan1234 i havent raped, plundered or colonised anyone,And your latest rant only proves how racist and bigoted you are.
angel102ify 1 month ago
@AnimalWelfare1000 Your not telling me anything i didnt know already, you seem to think i support what the English parliament did back then, i certianly dont, but i do not blame the modern government for what happened 50,100,200,500 years ago.Otherwise i would still blame the current german government for WW2, it just doesnt apply.
angel102ify 2 months ago
NI is heavily colonised with british settlers still living in the 1600s, theyre the ones you need to have words with, for all the good it does
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
I have read irish history, from Cromwell, to the potato blight to bloody sunday and most things in between as a matter of fact im not an expert but im not ignorant either, And that doesnt mean i believe shooting a policeman who was doing his job in answering a call for help is in anyway justified, in ANY way.
angel102ify 2 months ago
I dont even know his name, whoever he was he was just unlucky like all other victims, we didnt create this problem, its the nine years war & the ulster plantations if you wanna understand about northern ireland
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
@ProvosAttYourDoor His name was Stephen Carroll, from Banbridge, Co Down. and he didnt create the problem either, didnt stop 2 terrorist murderers from spilling innocent blood of someone trying to help his community tho did it?
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, stephen carroll aye, he was unlucky, CIRA felt they had to hit somebody as well after the RIRA done the 2 soldiers, that was the stone cold reason for it mate, not a good thing at all, I wish things werent like that, theres only one eventual solution for it all
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
@ProvosAttYourDoor you have your problems with the british government, i accept that, but that is never an excuse to murder innocent people in the name of "freedom" what the IRA and its offshoots do is nothing more than cold blooded murder. whether its in Omagh or london or manchester, its all the same.
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, I dont have a problem with anybody, Ive got my life sorted fine, I understand why it all happens though, there wouldnt even be an IRA in the first place if........ ye know
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
@ProvosAttYourDoor well seeing as the vast majority of people living in NI want to remain part of the United Kingdom then yeah, there is only one solution, and thats for the IRA(in whatever form it is in to this day) to stop murdering people.
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, theres no such place as NI, its an artificial state, let the whole of Ireland decide, let the whole of Ulster decide even... nah they already made sure that couldnt happen, they knew fine well what would happen by dividing the country, even these ones today, you think they care about stephen carroll?, or any of them soldiers....... operations like this is what hurt them the most
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
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angel102ify 2 months ago
Ahh good times
Cormac123456789 2 months ago
@Cormac123456789 Evil and dark times, only liked by bigots and racists
jamessential 2 months ago
Wtf I don't understand why everyone speaks bad about the IRA and no one mentions the Brits. They were way worse
TheByrne44 2 months ago
@TheByrne44 yes, the british tried to blow up a lot of skyscrapers.
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, the warning was given the building was empty, this wasnt about murder
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
@ProvosAttYourDoor and that makes it ok?
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, I dont see a problem with it, they messed about too much after the '94 ceasefire, this got their attention again without actually killing anybody, maybe a little thank you might even be in order?
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
@ProvosAttYourDoor dont hold your breath.
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, this is how you fight a guerrilla war, if they wanted to kill people like the al qaeda monkeys, this is a perfect example of how they couldve done it, its a war against the government not the people, if you have to call them terrorists fine, theyre gentleman terrorists at least though
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
@ProvosAttYourDoor Yes, gentlemen terrorist who like to plant bombs underneath an off duty policemens car, are you fucking serious?
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, I think its a lot more honourable than droppin bombs on people from 13'000 ft aye, you dont understand anything you, rupert murdoch decides what simple people like you think, dum dum
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
@ProvosAttYourDoor Im the dum dum? haha ok mate, thats your opinion and your entitled to it. By the way, the only thing Rupert Murdoch has decided for me for the last 22 of my 30 years on this planet is which newspapers i wont be reading and which TV channels i wont be paying for.
angel102ify 2 months ago
@angel102ify, read about Irish history if you want reasons for why things like this happen, you wont get anything from sky or bbc about it, theyre too ashamed and so they should be
ProvosAttYourDoor 2 months ago
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@ProvosAttYourDoor And do gentlemen murder a policeman who was answering a call for help from a woman on a housing estate in Co. Armagh? no i didnt think so, Grow up little boy.
angel102ify 2 months ago
fucking savage unreal up the ra
IRAneverbeaten 2 months ago
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danbit5 3 months ago
DEATH TO SCOTLAND
DEATH TO ENGLAND
DEATH TO ALL MANKY PROD SCUM
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crusaderus 4 months ago
terrorists always try 2 attack the rich countries
waveysoap 4 months ago
@waveysoap because the rich countries have usually plundered for years beforehand
woodenpudden 4 months ago
go home hun amy...no one wants u..maybe home is the place to be..you lost but you wont go still...go home in boxes then.FTQ
3sjh3 4 months ago
Some damage done lol up the RA. Brits out.
Kkeenan461 5 months ago
the english are scum, its a shame the IRA dont bomb england more often
cillianmacailin 5 months ago
@cillianmacailin you should be lined up against a wall and shot
patjoethebaker 5 months ago
@cillianmacailin here here..good comment...it will soon enough though.
3sjh3 4 months ago
@cillianmacailin what a silly thing to say. That would only increase the risk of a loyalist nutter bombing the repulic in retaliation. People are waiting for the IRA and if the time comes they'll go to war, and when your young son or brother is lying in a pool of blood with his head blown off you might think the IRA and the bombing of innocent civs isn't such a good idea. Spoken like a true republican though, one that has prob never been to NI in his life.
jamessential 2 months ago
@jamessential go fuck yourself lad ive been on your youtube account all day long you sit behind your computer and give all the abuse of the day like a hard man. . . . and ive lived in antrim all my life
cillianmacailin 2 months ago
@cillianmacailin all day long? you must lead an interesting life!
jamessential 2 months ago
Just what was the point in all of this bombing Canary Wharf, the Manchester Arndale etc. nonsense? I recently had to write an essay about all of this and I found it really hard to draw a conclusion as to who was to blame.
aceamen 5 months ago
@aceamen if you need any help or any questions let me know.Pretty sure i can help u.
1984ioc 5 months ago
@aceamen The main point in bombing London and Manchester etc. was because one bomb in England was worth a 1000 bombs in Belfast.To scare the British government etc. it was much more effective to target the mainland UK.The IRA saw it as a way of achieving their goals quicker (Britain out of Ireland) but it had mixed results.In some ways it enforced the british government not to give into them but on the other hand it brought them closer to the negotiating table.
As for who is to blame.Both sides
1984ioc 5 months ago
@1984ioc I am emphatic in my opposition to Republican terrorism.
Having said that, those two bombings in 1996 were easily the most effective operations the Provisional IRA ever undertook. Two major bombings in mainland cities and within two years the British had not just come back to the negotiating table, but also had signed the Good Friday Accord.
Having said that, the outcomes of GFA were practically the same as Sunningdale; Republicans could have just accepted that in 1973.
disamjisa 3 months ago
@disamjisa How far back would you associate Republican actions as terrorism do you mind me asking?Would be interested to hear what an outsider thinks.
Do you have British roots by any chance or do you only listen to/read/watch British media and broadcasting or was your education coming from a british perspective?
1984ioc 3 months ago
@1984ioc I come from a strongly British perspective in many ways, being an Australian born British-Australian dual citizen with a long family history of military and civil service to the British Empire (with all the knighthoods and honours that go with it),.
However, my commitment to the principle of self-determination far outweights sentimental attachment to Britain and the former empire,.
The United Ireland and Young Ireland rebellions were entirely justified and honourable course.
disamjisa 3 months ago
@1984ioc (reply 2) The Anglo-Irish war of 1919-1921 to be a legitimate war of independence where the people had a clearly distinct cultural and religious orientation, and were expected to be ruled from Westminster by English and Scot aristocrats, and protestant landholders in Ireland who were manytime absentee landlords living a lavish lifestyle in London off the backbreaking labour of their Catholic tenants. There is no doubt in my mind that Ireland had an unqualified right to independence
disamjisa 3 months ago
@1984ioc (reply 3) That war was very ugly on both sides, but from the Irish side entirely justified considering tactical imperitives as they were fighting the pre-eminent world superpower. However, the Easter Rising, which concievably could have led to an Allied collapse onthe western front, was an enormous blunder and a stain on the honour of the (Old) Ira. Even worse were the attacks on Britain before and during WW2 when we were fighting the most evil and dangerous regime in world history.
disamjisa 3 months ago
@1984ioc (reply 4) In terms of PIRA's campaign, I utterly acknowledge that the Catholic's of Northern Ireland, politically and economically disenfranchised, needed an armed, political force to defend them physically against Unionist serial killers, and that the refusal of the British to recognise Sinn Fein made the use of force morally justifiable. However, in my mind that does not justify attacking civilians (like the Remembrance Day attack) or meting out summary executions.
disamjisa 3 months ago
@1984ioc (reply 5) In terms of my perspective, clearly I do have a British background, but I took my undergraduate degree at the University of Sydney, where support and sympathy for the IRA is extremely high. Being a history grad, I do try to research the claims of both sides; I don't think there are many disputes of fact in terms of PIRA actions, just differences of interpretations. PIRA does not deny murdering or maiming 70 innocents in the Remembrance Day bombing. I feel that ws a heinous act
disamjisa 3 months ago
@1984ioc (reply 6) To summarise my views, I sympathise with the Republican cause in many ways, but disagree with some aspects of their use of force, and feel that it was often counterproductive and morally unjustifiable.
disamjisa 3 months ago
@1984ioc What about your views? I can see from your profile you're Irish, and your other comments on this thread seem quite sensible.
disamjisa 3 months ago
They brought it on themselves. The British have done far worse than the I.R.A have ever done.
CountryAndFolkMusic 7 months ago
@CountryAndFolkMusic ahahahhahahahhahahahhahaha, hilarious. the best thing the IRA have done was to blow up manchester which caused a regeneration and it's nice now. the best thing britain has done? brought peace to the world, cured problems, helped civilization grow into what it is today, stopped several hundered wars, stopped the whole world from becoming hitler's world, stalin's world etc, etc. britain has done the best things for the world, and the IRA has blown up some places. very heroic.
ghostedfrequency 6 months ago
@ghostedfrequency You really like the image of the all powerful British? Britain has caused a hell of a lot more problems than the IRA ever will. They butchered hundreds of native tribes, displaced them, abused them and raped the country of its resources. I often wonder who are the real terrorists? Without the British, there would be a need for the IRA, nor the Taliban.
CountryAndFolkMusic 6 months ago
@ghostedfrequency No you didn't. You were stopped in your tracks by bigger dogs,namely USA and Russia.And btw you didn't stop Germany in ww2.Russia did that.
bansheewhiskey 5 months ago
@ghostedfrequency Germany would have annihilated you.But whatever.Usa think they saved you(Russia really did).
bansheewhiskey 5 months ago
@Rowan616 shut the fuck up the british cause hundreds and i mean hundreds to die in our land 95% catholics. Is ireland free ? No it is not so we shall keep fighting !!
TajEditing 7 months ago
UP THE PROVOS
TranceInMyPants21 7 months ago
the codeword for he bomb was kerrygold,same as the butter,genius!!
guccililpiggy1 7 months ago
what has ireland invented, they are the lowest race of people you are like africa worthy of being in the chamber to be used as farm fertilizer, only keep some pretty irish lass for sex
Jimmyretired 8 months ago
@Jimmyretired go and research your invention statement, then rename yourself jimmyretard you fuck wit
cabraharp01 7 months ago
@Jimmyretired 'Ireland' has invented plenty of things.Have you invented anything?
TheFutureadvocate 6 months ago
oooohhh ahh up the RA say oooh ahhh up the RA!
BostonUnitedforever 8 months ago
i hate british.most despicable ppl on earth
eulex10 8 months ago
The Reichmann brothers must have shitted !
ohno2112 11 months ago
FUCKING ELL DOES TREVOR EVER AGE ?
griffy1988 11 months ago
IT WAS A GREAT OP
TheGuitar3245 11 months ago
UP THE BRITS , DOWN THE RA
NetbookHero 11 months ago
@skoi87 Easy to say from the comfort of behind the keyboard. If you need to make idle threats have the balls to put your name and address to it.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
Tiocfaidh ar la
seanymo 1 year ago
@MattRobbo360 lol "we could explode ireland if we wanted". you sound utterly stupid. utterly, utterly stupid.
jesusisme 1 year ago
wat a hit it was .
eoinmcgowan 1 year ago
The thing is, Ireland isn't actually worth bombing. The actual British people have actually achieved things, such as Canary Wharf. But what has Ireland achived? They have mad a beer, so what? Britain all the way!
CarBonkers 1 year ago
@CarBonkers "The actual British people have actually achieved things, such as Canary Wharf."
How is that an achievement. Its a couple of tall buildings which benefit private business mostly banks, mostly the people who fucked this country up. If that is all you can think of as an achievement then its no wonder you cant think of anything good to say about Ireland. I'm glad people like you are the minority.
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
@Tzimnewman3 Ireland is broke lol
phantomsuccour 10 months ago
@Tzimnewman3 Here here... they will never understand..don't waste your breath!!
GarethKeenan101 3 months ago
@CarBonkers That's what made IRA own you with words like that.
bansheewhiskey 1 year ago
@CarBonkers irlands really nice..the uk is much more shitty
1ukjunglednbraver 1 year ago
@CarBonkers your just being stupid for the sake of it
kharte29 1 year ago
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rajnicat 11 months ago
@CarBonkers .... What? even if that made sense they were too busy beating the Irish to let them build anything.
modernwar2ghostrp 9 months ago
@CarBonkers britain sucks
TheGenosis 9 months ago
@CarBonkers hahaha u make me laugh ireland hasnt acheived anything haha.we where one of the first to explore the antartic ..we designed the whitehouse .we gave the most money per person to charity then any other country in the world .we've given the world u2 , bob geldof people who change the world for the best .we won the eurovision a record 7 times .we beat england in football all the time oh next we play use and use are getting beaten dont wreck the stadium again please sore losers
gazsss 6 months ago
@CarBonkers Canary Wharf is actually owned by Irish investors...
TheFutureadvocate 6 months ago
@CarBonkers The IRA still rule.ssssssssshhhhhh.Your cheeseface won't solve shit.
bansheewhiskey 5 months ago
@CarBonkers You disgust me, how could you actually say something like that. Britain took advantage of a smaller country and you expect that some wont be angry about that? Just a little facts for you, the British burned down peoples houses in Ireland during the famine, when people where at their weakest and threw them out of their homes. I am glad Britain only owns Northern Ireland but hopefully NI will become part of the South again some day. YOU DISGUST ME.
W81049 4 months ago
@W81049
If you're an Irish person, you have no excuse to not know the history of the famine. The famine was devastating and apocalyptic as it is, without needing your silly accusations that the British government was burning people's houses at the time.
Why don't you do a bit of research into the subject? Find out that several laws were passed in Westminster, and it was regarded as a calamity of the worst order. Then you might be able to truly appreciate how awful the famine was
disamjisa 3 months ago
@disamjisa I understand where your coming from but they actually did burn down peoples houses because they could afford to pay the rent when the brits came and stole their land.
W81049 3 months ago
@W81049 Who burned down houses? What are you talking about Brits coming to steal their land?
Ireland had been part of the United Kingdom for about a half century by the time of the famine. Please expain "when the Brits came and stole their land".
disamjisa 3 months ago
@disamjisa Cork Massacre is a prime example. British barracks attacked - british army attacks by burning down most of cork city. Ireland had technically been part of a UnitedKingdom many centuries before the famine. In my opinion, blame lies solely on an incompetent, faceless and arrogant British landlord class and authorites. blood on hands and all that lark
donvit2 3 months ago
@donvit2 I can't see anything about the "massacre" you're referring to.
And saying "faceless and arrogant British landlord class" shows how little you know about Irish demography and the actual history of the famine.
The words all that lark shows you probably know what you're saying is bullshit, and you just like to hate the British, it's a safe mental place for you to be, rather than actually critically examining the history of the famine
disamjisa 3 months ago
@disamjisa the fucking brits dont belong in ireland never did simple most of the population never wanted them in ireland. Hundreds of years the british establishment plundered and raped this country but when the ira fights back were knowing has terrorists what a fucking joke
IRAneverbeaten 2 months ago
@IRAneverbeaten but the brits aren't in Ireland, they're in NI which is in Britain. The only people who refuse to see that are the Irish underclass, the dreggs and purile scum bags that support hatred and killing. That would be the IRa then!
jamessential 2 months ago
@jamessential ha ha are you fucking retarded the brits are in ireland you stupid cunt they came here like a disease few hundred years ago and the ira and sinn fein are curing the country you smelly rotten tan
IRAneverbeaten 2 months ago
@CarBonkers No British companies achieved things. Im English and you cant attribute things to an entire nation, positive or negative. British military and governmet leaders created concentration camps 40 years before the Germans, you want credit for that as well. So some Irish people want (quite justifiably I think youll agree) a country free from British rule, dont mean their all shitbags.
grimblebrumble17889 4 months ago
@CarBonkers The irish built manhattan, beat that you twat.
CelticSponge 4 months ago
@CarBonkers ''they have mad a beer'' you can't even spell, you fucking retard.
67peterkerr 2 months ago
@CarBonkers british army child killers
67peterkerr 2 months ago
@MattRobbo360 jesus another stupid fucking brit UP THE RA
voc89 1 year ago
this is a disgrace. The fact that people still support the IRA is disgusting.
We need to get back to the days where Irish had to ask to enter pubs
rjohnso01 1 year ago
@rjohnso01 Ah yes, sterotyping Irish people as terrorists, well done, this is was nearly 15 years ago, get the fuck over yourself.
daleh99 1 year ago
I remember news stories like this being common. We should all be grateful that this is no longer the case.
SuperTrekNerd 1 year ago
GOOD ENUF FOR YAS
TRDfino 1 year ago
NO SURRENDER
councilchav 1 year ago
UP THE IRA!!!
themightyjoseph 1 year ago
tiocfaidh ar la ,,,
1916supermc 1 year ago
2 men deserved to die...They were given a warning and didnt heed it.Entirely their fault, not the IRA's.UP THE 'RA.
kerryman506 1 year ago
@kerryman506 They deserved to die because?
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
Its what the IRA does best, kill innocent people.
giftedimproviser1987 1 year ago
@giftedimproviser1987 same with the english 14 men in derry, the ballymurphy massacre which a priest was killed now wtf would a priest be doing to be dangerous to the brits, the newlodge 6 theres just a few. use english think the british done nothing to this country they murderd men women and children but whenevr the ira let off a bomb which killed nobody e.g. manchester it was publicised as terrorists now why would terrorists give a warning bomb
cfcnlr 1 year ago
@Tzimnewman3 Isn't it obvious?They dies due to their own stupidity, not because of the IRA.I am fully willing to sacrifice 2 brain dead idiots in the quest for a united Ireland-and so should you.
kerryman506 1 year ago
@kerryman506 "I am fully willing to sacrifice 2 brain dead idiots in the quest for a united Ireland-and so should you."
United Ireland? United with who?? Last time I check Ireland has been United with the rest of Europe for a while now. A British man is now a equal citizen to an Irish man thanks to Europe being United. Ireland is already United now and its united with a over 27 countries.
Tzimnewman3 1 year ago
@Tzimnewman3 United with the north of irelaND you twat
ToxikWaltz 7 months ago
@ToxikWaltz "United with the north of irelaND you twat"
All EU states are united now which was the point I was trying to make here twat. I actually support a United Ireland (South and North only) but its rather pointless trying for that while Ireland (South) is now united with 27 other countries including the UK.
Tzimnewman3 7 months ago
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@kerryman506
"I am fully willing to sacrifice 2 brain dead idiots in the quest for a united Ireland-and so should you"
And would you plant another Omagh bomb 29 or so victims for a united Ireland?
ImagesByDavid 9 months ago
@kerryman506 UP THE RA MY FELLOW MUNSTER MAN!
ProvoIRA2010 1 year ago
@kerryman506 Most immature comment i've ever read
costateguise 1 year ago
@kerryman506 Just another one of the Irish trolls banding about youtube.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
@kerryman506 Bombing a civilian target? If you want to call yourself an army, fight soldiers. Want to call yourself a child molesting faggot join the IRA.
neverfearchrisishere 9 months ago
i reckon this is 12th feburary 1996
powdermannnnreturns 1 year ago
i can't hear anything soz mate
NickLovesBritain 1 year ago
@NickLovesBritain
turn it up!
themrduragss 1 year ago