Zend Framework 1.8 tutorial 1 MVC basics

[shoxzerl]

Where i can find a clear short tutorial where i can see how to use a model in zf other then this db-things i dont need them i just need to write a simple model to join two variables.

[drewdellostritto]

Good work. I wanted to congratulate you on this wonderful video: very clear. I also want to recognize how difficult it must be to create a tutorial video in a second language - you did so very well!

[bolshevik2]

And after 10K lines of code of a badly documented bloated and poorly designed Zend Framework you have... Just a basic bootstrap application that requires you a learning curve almost as big as learning PHP itself. Trust me you are better off hardcoding from scratch instead of using these low quality frameworks. Even if Zend itself made it, frankly ZF was poor judgement, stick to Zend Studio.

[integral30]

@bolshevik2 lets see what ZF2 will bring

[drewdellostritto]

@integral30 Perhaps: however, these frameworks do simplify the workload for learning programers and encourages the learning process, which in the end results in more innovation. Anyone who wants to go on to be a serious will move on to more advanced and refined applications, like ruby. I think that these frameworks aren't that difficult to learn and are gateways to higher systems

[thermalf]

@bolshevik2 I understand frustration with Zend FrameWork as the documentation is disorganized but will be improved. You don't need to understand all the internal workings of ZF and the ZF library. You do need to understand Model/View/Controller (MVC) architecture and ZF's use of it so study and understand that first before working with ZF. Or, use a Content Management System (CMS) such as WordPress and Joomla that do all the dirty work for you and require little or no PHP scripting.

[elvisniperx]

what programs are you using?

[code3design]

Very nice. Got me up to speed with Zend. It seems it is hard to find good information on how to use and build web application with zend. Do you have a web site where you host all your tutorials or any new tutorials on the horizon? Thanks!

[integral30]

@code3design link to my site in my profile

New one about forms is in production.

[2guys1diet]

This is quite simply the best explanation of MVC I have come across. Good work!

[bayramozinal]

not bad. thanks for video

[Kureyons]

To me, this makes so much more sense than their documentation

[fmozzz]

great work! thx mate!

[visitek]

if you are beginer, dont make videos.. ;) extending no abstract classes is not the best.. Why you use fatchAll? you want all data?Do you know, it makes object with all information? Try make xml import , with checking exist, by 50 000 items (products in eshop).. Good luck with your experience

[integral30]

@visitek Composition over inheritance.. forcing the program to output only expected and needed set of results to avoid unnecessary massive objects that are not only resource wasteful but unwanted data can get in the way.. Well familiar with all of those and more ;) This is the sacrifice of making tutorials - if I side track into these "little" things viewer may lose focus - these are not app design tuts. Once viewer is familiar with ZF generally hopefully he applies good practices on his own.

[integral30]

@visitek Did not get enough space in the comment to say, Thank you for an honest review :) Perhaps, I could have shown the basics with less bad practices.

[jheisondc]

interesante, muchas gracias

[jheisondc]

interesante, muchas gracias

[TheRajputhra]

where can i get source code for these tutorials. please help me anyone

[everfrost77]

Хеллоу : )

Как знакомый проносиэйшн : )

Выложи на русском, брат : ) Сила не в Зенде, сила в ньютонах : )

[integral30]

@everfrost77

lol Уже много спрашивали. Наверное недо бы постараться.

[lpmaxi]

HAHA, You have a terrible accent

[SlevinKil]

Tried to watch this tutorial 3-4 times, but that accent just kills me.

[alfil374]

Les puede ser útil...

[mohannadhussain]

thank you for the great series of videos!

[Vovkasamurai]

а на русском нету? :)

[dndpliz]

@Vovkasamurai было бы неплохо найти

[dndpliz]

@Vovkasamurai было бы неплохо найти

[kamilo185]

Muchas gracias por compartir estos videos.

[gpthebest]

Да, знакомый акцент :)

[teatap]

Zend or Ruby on Rail which one is best for Future?

[integral30]

Never used RoR so can only speculate. There are some things that Zend really need to pull of in v2 to make it any useful for bigger projects. Specifically modules.

Also, Judging by the rate at which ZF adopts to new technology compared to others(best example is rewriting ZF2 to fit new namespaces in PHP5.3), if they continue doing the same in all areas, I would confidently say - ZF for the future

[jsmneo10]

very informative. thanks!

[jsmneo10]

nice frameYORK!

[rumco]

In my opinion, considering a table class to be a model causes more harm than good. Model is an abstract term, ZF proposes a use of model as a class that interacts with its mapper - actual data source.

[integral30]

Agree, mapper is the only way to go for more complex structures. But is a simple data gateway pattern that bad for simple structures?

[rumco]

@integral30 It's OK for very simple stuff but perhaps you can mention that there is such approach in your video (mapper - separating of abstract logic from data source) and why it's better to use it rather than extend table class, without actually implementing it. Thanks for the videos, interesting thoughts :)

[shamkirnet]

Спасибо. Интересно. Но было бы шикарно если бы ты записал туториалы и на русском =)

[allacolesnic]

Great video, nice explanation. Thank you!

[TheUnknownMa]

are you spanish ?

[integral30]

Russian

[franckmercado]

I knew it ... I have a friend that speaks like you and he's Russian. BTW great tutorial bro, it's really clear way to explain MVC. I have a question: How does AJAX interacts with MVC? Does it break the MVC pattern or not?

[jatin495]

very useful for me... thanks a lot!!

[mukissa01]

perfect very good *-*

[integral30]

before i moved on to aptana? Thats kate from KDE.

[01Vanquish]

Out of curiosity, what editor is that ?

[mjehanzeb]

Excellent tutorial, keep it up the nice work going.

[logikbomb]

good stuff. Thanks

[AVANROTCIV]

Thanks for the video

[petisnnake]

terrorist

[bowersbros]

He has a slight russian accept, Terrorist because he is russian?

I conclude, you are either

1) fascist

2) Entirely Stupid

3) Rasist

4) a Yank

[MrMildtouch23]

fuck

[ideiassimples]

Very, very, very good

[wishdale]

Fantastik work with your movies, I love them all. They are clear and very informative.

All my questions was answered in your movies about Zend.