JAPANESE NEW HISTORY BOOK LYING DECEIT ON THE GLORIOUS HISTORY OF KOREA (2 of 3)

[kimois1]

People! Do not even argu with these guys.

Some japanese are still living in 19th centrys.

closed up their eyes and ears just like a North Koreans!!!

and you know what i north korea like it.

[CloeBuckingham]

@kimois1 But aren't you making an ad hominem argument yourself?

[buqker]

he is not in his element - he is living in his pretentious imperialist past - the japanese were so hateful and nazi-like on who lived or not - and they did change history books, i know all countries do this - but the extent that Japan did this is amazing - they're still backtracking and sometimes admitting to their mistakes - they were trying to be world power

[buqker]

ugly bad twisted history - we don't need people like him; he shouldn't be writing books - he's still living int he past when japan was "imperialistic"

[CloeBuckingham]

@buqker "He" is Korean, not Japanese, although he is speaking Japanese.

His dialect sounds like Kansai (Osaka area), not Kanto (Tokyo area). Unsophisticated.

[CloeBuckingham]

Before I lived in Korea, I didn't know much about the place. When I lived in Korea, I saw good and bad points. Good points are the food, language, and culture. Bad points are the aggressiveness, drunkenness, and reckless driving. I don't have a problem with Korean men. They seem more faithful than Japanese men, but also more hot tempered.

[CloeBuckingham]

As for my husband, he is more anti-Korea than I am, because he grew up in that torture chamber that is Korea, where he was beaten by his father and teachers and fell from the second floor of school building.

Even at Seoul National University, professors buy their position for 30M won, such a corrupt country it is. It is people like Hwang Woo-suk who slander Korea, not me. How can anyone trust a Korean academic paper after that?

I want to cut through the propaganda to give a BALANCED picture.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham It seems like you are painting a bad picture of Koreans and you are making the Japanese people look squeaky clean. There is no corruption in Japan? Look at the Nuclear power plants and how the Japanese government is telling the people false information to protect the asses of big shot CEOs. Come on! Japanese people can be very ethnocentric and a lot of them express arrogance toward other Asians. I guess being of mixed race, they couldn't show it to me. I am rather handsome :)

[CloeBuckingham]

@raghed911 For example, the prostitutes who are called comfort women testified that they worked for a private company. Then their lawyers said, if you say that, we cannot get money, so they changed their opinion, and said they worked for the Japanese army.

Korea likes to claim that there were 300K or more comfort women, but they can only find fewer than 100. So only 1 in 3K admits to being a comfort woman? No, rather, they smell money. Prostitution has been legal in Korea until only recently.

[nerdotron]

@CloeBuckingham every professor ar Seoul National University buy their positions? really? sources please.

[CloeBuckingham]

Traditionally, many Koreans have a grudge against Japan, because both countries are culturally dependent on China, but Korea became poor while Japan became rich. So Koreans see themselves as poor elder brothers going to their rich younger brother for cash. That's why the use prostitutes to blackmail Japanese engineers into revealing company secrets. That's why professors buy their positions at university. Korea = corruption. Japan tried to end it, but it takes time.

[nerdotron]

@CloeBuckingham wow you really love korea!

[nerdotron]

japanese fascists call it "fantasy stories". If you don't believe it please watch "japanese devils" from the japanese director minoru matsui. Japanese Imperial soldiers describe cannibalism, tortures and rapes in the invaded countries...

by the way, korea has no plan to renegotiate normalization agreement with japan. so please don't use that argumentation to ridiculise warcrimes.

[CloeBuckingham]

@nerdotron What you say is true, but Korea is not one of those invaded countries. Koreans served in the Imperial Army up to the rank of general and committed those atrocities and were buried at Yasukuni Shrine. But now Koreans try to distance themselves from the fact that they fought WITH Japan, not AGAINST Japan during World War II.

There is no point of signing a normalisation treaty with Korea because they keep making up new things to extract more money. It's all about money.

[nerdotron]

@CloeBuckingham

i know that many koreans served in the japanese army. many french served in the german army too. conscripted or voluntarily.

it is even in korean movies.

there are japanese bad people and korean bad people. every country has good and bad people!

by the way please send me some sources where there are korean generals in the imperial army in WWII, i am interested. no jokes.

"they keep making up new things to extract more money."

they... us?

[CloeBuckingham]

@nerdotron This is not about "good guys, bad guys." Today, Koreans who served with Japan are labeled "bad," but General Park, one of the greatest Koreans, served with Japan. The idea that supporting Japan is bad is just a social construction.

Koreans will say anything to get money from Japan.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham Korea is an economic power house now. You are saying that we are niggers and we want free money from Japan? What do you look like? R U hot? Usually pretty girls have options and they can pick and choose who they date from swarms of admiring men. You sound like a bitter ugly duckling that met a Korean man and broke your heart. Why do you hate Korean?

[CloeBuckingham]

@raghed911 I am just lending balance and less well-known facts to the debate.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham Sweet heart I really can't comment on that since I have never heard such facts. I am 100% American and I am proud to be Korean. My grandfather fought in WW2 and it is well known that the Japanese army was brutal and ruthless. It's kind of like a thug with a chip on his shoulder, you have to smack him like the bitch he is and then he has second thoughts in messing with you again. We had the nukes and we ended the war. I have no hate for Japanese, I hate Muslims.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham It looks like you spend a lot of time broadcasting vitriolic and debasing rhetoric about Koreans and I would like to know what caused this sort disdainful disposition in your heart. I have my channel to show the world the evils of Islam and my goal is to expose the motivation of Islamo-fascism. I want to protect my country from an evil ideology. Everybody has their motivations, whats yous. It has been my experience that Japanese people can be very ethnocentric. Is that you?

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham Never the less, you look pretty cute in your avatar but that may not be an accurate depiction of you if it is you at all. Sweet heart it seems that you have a lot of pain in your heart and I hope that you can come to grips with it if i am accurate with my assumption. I would love to give you a big hug if that is true. My prayers go out to the Tsunami victims. I am willing to bet that there were Korean casualties as well. God bless Korea and may god help the tsunami victims.

[CloeBuckingham]

@raghed911 Thank you for your concern. My Korean husband and I are not currently in Korea or Japan.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham So you have a Korean husband and you say these slanderous things about his people? Shame on you naughty girl! You said that you lived in Korea; did his family treat u badly? Do you have kids or plan on having kids because if u do, you are insulting your own blood as well. I told u why I have my channel, please share with me why your heart is bitter toward Korean. If you think about it, Japanese people like to copy Anglo-Americans and even get their eyes fixed. True?

[CloeBuckingham]

@raghed911 What have I said that is slander? What do you mean, "Insulting my blood?" What does blood have to do with culture and history? Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese are related by blood, and the Japanese Emperor has Korean ancestors. Is this even relevant? I am not accustom to thinking in terms of race. I am merely concerned about historical accuracy. I do not think one is patriotic by creating a fictional account of one's history. Quite the opposite.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham Come on baby doll. You have a channel dedicated to slandering or debasing the Korean people and you hide behind a persona of an intellectual narcissist claiming historical events that I have never heard of. You claim that you are merely giving a different perspective but yet I have never heard of these so called facts that you present. What is your motivation?

[CloeBuckingham]

@raghed911 Could you be more specific about the historical events you have not heard of?

Koreans are very good about promoting their view on history. Japanese are not.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham There you go again making general statements about Korea. You still haven't answered my question in regards to your apparent disdain toward Koreans. You also say that Korea is full of corruption but you fail to mention Japanese corruption. What do you think about the Jap government downplaying the radiation levels at the power plants? Let me guess, you must have another rebbutal or another justification for your people. Your statements lack verisimilitude.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham I think you were conditioned to hate Koreans because a lot of Japanese people I meet express the same sentiment. You never explained why you aim your apparent disgust toward what you call your blood. Did a Korean kill your sister? Did a Korean smack you around? Whats up? You justified Pearl Harbor and deny Nan King! WTF! You claim that you are merely being objective but I think people view your rhetoric as being slandering and demeaning. Get over it sweety.

[CloeBuckingham]

@raghed911 Give me a break. I lived in Seoul, and my husband is Korean.

[raghed911]

@CloeBuckingham "Koreans will say anything to get money from Japan". Now that is not an objective statement and that type of rhetoric manifests your ethnocentric attitude. It's hard to perceive you as being objective when I hear these statements.

[CloeBuckingham]

@raghed911 In 1965 when Korea and Japan signed the normalisation treaty, that was supposed to be the final word on the matter. However, Koreans keep introducing new matters. So no matter how much compensation they receive, they will never shut up. So what was the point of paying them in the first place?

[makemap]

WHO THE FK WRITE THESE MODERN HISTORY BOOKS ANYWAYS? SOMEONE IS SCREWING WITH THE WORLD.

[CloeBuckingham]

@makemap The history books are written by the government in Korea.

[afewminutesforyou]

I am Korean and I know that what the Japanese did was right. Although they undeniably did wrong things, IT WAS A HARSH BUT NECESSARY MEDICINE. I am ashamed that my fellow countrymen call me a Japanese only for being rational.

[Waenom]

Had Japan not been so notoriously greedy and militaristic, Korea would have remained unified and an ally/vassal of China until now. Both United China and Korea would have formed into allied Republics (together the ROC and ROK). It's very unfortunate and sad that this didn't happen.

[CloeBuckingham]

So you would like Korea to be an ally/vassal of China? You would want Koreans to experience invasion and cultural revolution like Tibetans, Uighers, etc.?

[Waenom]

If Korea was already an ally/vassal of China, how can they suffer invasion? If you're not so purposely ignorant, you would already know that Koreans have experienced many harsh invasions (the worst were the Japanese invasions) in the past.

And a benevolent revolution (that would have focused completely on westernization, economic development, and modernization) would have been also beneficial with cooperation between China and Korea. By the way, The cultural revolution happened under the PRC.

[CloeBuckingham]

Tibet, Korea, and China were tributary states of the Qing (Manchurian) Dynasty. If the PRC were successful in invading South Korea and annexing it, as it was with Manchuria and Tibet, South Korea would have suffered the same fate: no freedom at all.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham Taewongun made the situation like that... If he didn't resist westerners like that Korea wouldn't have been annexed at least because it would have been equally or almost as strong as Japan empire, but it has already happened...it's history what can I do

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 Pure fantasy. When Japan saved Korea, it was perhaps the poorest, most backward place on earth. And Japan suffered great economic hardship to build up Korea from nothing. Helping Korea was clearly a mistake for Japan from the stand point of economics, although it may have made sense geopolitically, considering that Russia would have taken Korea.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham Japan did not save Korea :( Japan was as bad as Russia. Japan took over Korea for its own interests!

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 There were fewer than 100 schools on the peninsula when Japan and Korea became one. Then more than 5,000 schools were constructed. Literacy rose from less than 1% to 44%.

There was also virtually no economy. Then modern roads, bridges, power plants, hospitals, dockyards, etc., were built nearly from scratch.

The population had been in decline for 100 years but grew rapidly owing to the new prosperity.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham you are partly right. On visible side Japan was helping Korea, but on the dark side, Japan was always a inhumane country which violently tortured ordinary citizens. Japan also opened fire on unarmed citizens during a peaceful demonstration. The Japanese officers were the ones ordinary Korean citizens feared the most because they had a sword on their sides, ready to kill anyone at his will.

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 I think that it is important to remember that there were many inhuman practices in Korea that Japan ended. For example, there was the practice of slavery. There was also the practice of selling a man's wife into slavery, if the man was convicted of a serious crime. There were also many brutal punishments, which included torturing people to death.

Japan ended this dark chapter of Korean history.

[ahj4513]

@ahj4513 it's funny how you are trying to hide what Japan ACTUALLY did to Korean people during the colonial period. Japan had three stages of its policy on Korea. First, it was military policy. Japan used its military rule to suppress any revolts. Japan arrested 105 influential people of Korea whether they were innocent or not.

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 I have a simple question. If there were a revolt in South Korea, or North Korea, today, would it be suppressed? Of course, it would. Every effective government in the world will suppress revolts in order to maintain law and order.

You only find this surprising, because you were taught that the rebels were in fact nationalist heroes. But that is just one perspective.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham 28。日帝の植民地教育、文化政策 1）植民地教育政策と民族教育運動 日帝は、デフォルトでは、天皇との植民地支配に順応する忠実な皇­国臣民を育成するための教育政策を施行した。私たちが日帝強占期­を3段階に分割するように日帝の教育政策にも大きく分けて3回の­改正を介して行われた。

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 I believe that any country hopes for loyal citizens. But the term "colonial subject" does not describe Koreans, because Korea and Japan were one country.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham  まず、1910年代の無断統治期の教育は、第1次朝鮮ギョユクリ­ョン（1911）に基づいて差別とオミンファ教育に重点を置いた­。

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 It is easy today to speak of "discrimination." But the Japan of 1911 should not be judged by today's standards. It should be compared to Qing in China and the warlord period that followed, Joseon in Korea, British India, and so on. If you compare Japan to other countries in 1911, it appears relatively progressive.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham 日帝は、私立学校の縮小、普通学校の修業年限縮小し、中等教育の­機会を制限し、大学教育を禁止することで、朝鮮人に対する教育機­会の差別を置いたおり、学校では非常に基本的な算数程度の最低限­の教育だけで行われ、大部分は、ビジネスマン、技術教育が中心で­あった。

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 What you write is absolutely not true. General Park was a beneficiary of the comprehensive educational system that Japan put in place. Many of the fathers of modern Korea received their education from the system that Japan designed.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham このような教育の実態は植民地工業化に必要な労働力の養成に重点­を置いた日帝の教育政策をうまく代弁してくれたと言えるだろう。

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 Korea was never a colony of Japan. The two countries were unified. Colonialism involves the exploitation of the resources of the colony, but Japan invested heavily in building up Korea. If Japan improved education for industrialization, that is a good thing, because Korea had no real economy before Japan's involvement.

[jamie121323]

@CloeBuckingham Korea was never a colony of japan and you don't know what they did to them? You should go back to ELEMENTRY SCHOOL and Learn KOREAN HISTORY again or YOURS!

What a shame!

[nerdotron]

@jamie121323 Completely agree. By analogy you can say that Native American Indians have to thank England for modernisation.

[nerdotron]

@jamie121323 japan took the charcoal and rice from korean mines and fields making the starving population work as forced workers (slaves)just like they did in all the invaded countries, not to mention selling lands to japanese at ridiculous prices.

That's called a colony of exploitation :-)

And yeah, Japan should thank America for invading them and make them live the glories of capitalism. Ofcourse ignore hiroshima and nagasaki because that is little sacrifice to live the American Dream. LMAO.

[jamie121323]

@nerdotron You don't know the meaning of why i said that because most of people here saying that "Korean should thank Japan for invading them". So i tell them Japanese should thank us american for invading them too. What a shame!

[nerdotron]

@jamie121323 ofcourse i just support that way of thinking.

[CloeBuckingham]

@jamie121323 Japan never invaded Korea. Korea was in rebellion, and the Korean king requested help from China and Japan. When the Japanese witnessed the extent to which the Korean king was exploiting the people, they decided to help them. That is why life expectancy and population increased during the time Japan was helping Korea, although it was declining before.

Many Japanese are happy the Americans liberated them from Emperor Showa and the militarists. Now Japan is a free country again.

[jamie121323]

@nerdotron I can't believe these japanese are making false comment against Korean. My wife is Korean and it upset me a lot.

[CloeBuckingham]

@jamie121323 No one has the intention of upsetting you. Japanese are not making false claims. The man speaking Japanese in the video is actually Korean.You may not realise it, but your history education in Korea is basically propaganda manufactured by the government.

[CloeBuckingham]

@nerdotron This is all nonsense. The population was in decline, and then it greatly increased during the period that Japan and Korea were together. How can that happen when people are starving?

As for slavery, it existed in Korea until Japan eliminated it.

[jamie121323]

@CloeBuckingham come on, grow a pair and do not make any kind of false claim against Korean. Everybody in the world know about this. Why don't you guys Thank us american for invading you guys?

[nerdotron]

@CloeBuckingham

"As for slavery, it existed in Korea until Japan eliminated it."

sounds really funny to me

Open your eyes

Imperial Japan = Supremacists = Nazi

[CloeBuckingham]

@nerdotron Japan eliminated slavery in Korea. Before Japan, if you committed a crime, you might be executed by torture and your wife given to the judge as a slave. This was common practice.

[nerdotron]

@CloeBuckingham sources please.

[nerdotron]

@CloeBuckingham with japan the procedure was different.

if you are non japanese you might be conscripted as a forced labourer=slave.

and if you were a woman you might be conscripted to serve in the military brothels to work as a confort woman=sex slave.

those who tried to resist were punished by the japanese by cutting noses, ears, women breasts and men penis. Boys were forced to rape their mothers and fathers forced to rape their daughters in front of their families.

This was common practice.

[CloeBuckingham]

@nerdotron These are fantasy stories that were made up to extract more money from Japan today.

[CloeBuckingham]

@nerdotron It is amazing that Japan caused so much starvation in Korea and yet the population increased 70% during the period of Japanese-Korean unity, while it was decreasing during the 1800s.

[nerdotron]

@CloeBuckingham sources please.

[CloeBuckingham]

@nerdotron I provide the sources in my comments to "The Glorious History..." video.

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham and Japanese historians have so many liars among them... Japan was the most aggressive ,the most violent , and the most merciless in Asia!!

Unit731, tortures on Korean, Comfort Women, Killing of a nation's queen with mere thugs!!!!!, Koreans as 2nd class citizens, all sorts of discriminations against koreans, and many more bad things Japan did to Korea :( Japan is denying the truth!!!!

[JapanDefender]

@ahj4513 So I guess the CPC who killed more Chinese in 3 years than the Japanese did in 13 years is less evil and aggressive, right?

People like you will contribute nothing to society because you don't understand what Korea means to Japan. It's a fucking dagger pointed towards us - and if the Russians took control, I'd be speaking Russian instead.

But you're right, Koreans ARE 2nd class citizens and will remain so as long as they keep opening old wounds.

[ahj4513]

@JapanDefender the fact is that Japan keeps trying to hide their wrongful deeds!

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 What wrongful deed? Japan has been at peace for 65 years. All those responsible for war have died or been executed.

[CloeBuckingham]

@JapanDefender In the Great Leap Foward, Mao Zedong killed 30 million of his own Chinese people, but who complains?! Chinese still worship him.

[CloeBuckingham]

@ahj4513 If Koreans were second class citizens then why were Koreans members of the Diet, even representing Tokyo?!

[ahj4513]

@CloeBuckingham they couldn't vote. Why would Japan not let its citizens vote? It's because Japan treated Koreans as 2nd class citizens...

[wonderfulchina2009]

I have another question for you. Do you deny the Rape of Nanking?

[CloeBuckingham]

No, not at all. Japanese militarism was terrible.

But I believe it was exaggerated, and much of the photographic evidence is demonstrably forged, with different photos combined, and shadows caused by the sun going in different directions.

China recently had to remove such fake photographs from a museum.

Many of the punishments that the Japanese were accused of using had never been used in Japan, or not since the Meiji period, but they were still common in China, so it is a kind of slander.

[Waenom]

"Japanese militarism was terrible."

Another hypocritical statement by Cloe, the anti-Korea lunatic.

[beacherry]

for your information CloeBuckingham, at least Chinese didn't rape, or killed Korean.

If you are trying IN ANY ATTEMPT to defend for the WWII for Japanese' wrong doing, be careful if you have nightmere of all those innocent women and chlidren who were raped and killed.

[CloeBuckingham]

I would not defend any wartime atrocities. I think that WWII was a bad idea.

[CloeBuckingham]

You do not life Japanese people. Your favorites show "Japs are monkeys."

[CloeBuckingham]

How can you say you love Japan? Your channel had "Japs are monkeys" videos. Now you removed them. Are you pretending?

[CloeBuckingham]

Also, when Japan merged with Korea, Japan built up Korea. China never built up Korea. China only exploited Korea, taking tribute.

[wonderfulchina2009]

China never built up Korea because China never annexed Korea. China has been one of Korea's main trading partners for centuries.

[CloeBuckingham]

The basic relation between China and Korea was master and slave. The Korean king went to the gate to bow to the Chinese ambassador. King was the highest position in the Joseon dynasty, so the symbolism is quite clear. Korea paid money to China as tribute. This shows that Korea was under China. However, China never invested in the infrastructure of Korea like Japan did.

[wonderfulchina2009]

I think your "master and slave" analogy is a bit extreme, but in any case, the Koreans preferred this relation with China over the Japanese occupation (for reference, ask any Korean person). This clearly shows a difference in the way China and Japan managed Korea. The opinion of the majority of Koreans today is solid proof of my argument.

[CloeBuckingham]

The opinion is managed by propaganda education. It's meaningless.

Inner Mongolia should be freed from Chinese domination.

China, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, etc., were all just controlled by the Manchu Qing Dynasty. So they all should have got independence in 1911. China should not claim them.

China says that Mongolian, Tibetan, Uigher are among 55 ethnicities of China. So are Korean and Russian. So does China have a right to invade them too?

[wonderfulchina2009]

As you can obviously see, Mongolia is not a part of China. China does not have any plans to invade it either.

Tibet has been officially a part of China for centuries, so there is no question there.

Xinjiang's case is the same as Tibet's.

Now, if you look at a map of Korea or Russia from a century ago, two centuries ago, or a thousand years ago, their country's land is specifically marked. China obviously does NOT have a right to invade them, because that's not traditional Chinese territory.

[CloeBuckingham]

Tibet has been officially part of the Qing Dynasty, which is a Manchurian Dynasty. Tibet and China were freed from the Qing Dynasty at the same time.

When the Qing Dynasty conquered China, Chinese could not speak Mandarin, and had to communicate in Chinese characters. Mandarin means "language used in govnerment." It was not the language of the Chinese people.

If you read Chinese ancient poetry, it sounds better read in Fujianese (Hokken, Haka).

[Waenom]

Please forgive Cloe's lack of humanity and intelligence. He/She is ill and needs a checkup as soon as possible.

[Waenom]

Well, DUH.

We all know that. China never had the chance to westernize or modernize Korea because of the pestilence of Japan. Japan wanted to take over Korea, that was the purpose of the First Sino-Japanese War. The Japanese Empire had the big chance to do it, and they succeeded.

[CloeBuckingham]

It would seem Japan would be the country that could most effectively modernise Asia. Unfortunately, China resisted cooperation.

[Waenom]

Well, didn't you know that the Chinese Nationalist Party under Chiang was cooperating with the ROK Provisional govt, in Shanghai, later chongqing, in order to restore Korea's sovereignty and independence, during 1910-1945 Japanese annexation of Korea? China was not that bad to Korea as you think.

[Waenom]

Of course, the Qing(Manchu Dynasty) resisted cooperation and support for Korea. After the Chinese revolution which led to establishment of the ROC, China had fundamental hopes to become a free, democratic, and modernized nation. Supposedly, Korea would have successfully followed the instance of its master China at that crucial time of reform, thus changing Korea into a democratic ally of China. I would rather see a unified and free Korea an ally of China, than remaining a part of Imperial Japan.

[CloeBuckingham]

China is slowly expanding. There are factories now in Laos where all the workers are Chinese living in Chinese cities. Chinese can do this by bribing the Laotian politicians.

China is taking Spratly Islands from Vietnam and the Philippines. Vietnam was part of China 1000 years ago, and some Chinese want it back.

China took Tibet, East Turkmenistan, and Inner Mongolia.

How long is North Korea safe?

[4K4K1K0]

North Korea is already de-facto part of China since the China is not only its by far greatest ally since the end of the USSR but also its protector state.

[CloeBuckingham]

You complain that Japanese are ignorant of their history. Koreans do not need to know ANY history. They just write their own history like writing a novel.

In Japan history is written by historians and published by private publishers with government approval.

In North and South Korea all history textbooks have been written and published by the government. They are government propaganda. It is not that they hide history. The books are lies.

[2008venom]

>Classes B and C

>These were the Japanese military who ordered atrocities, allowed them to happen, or actually committed them.

Google "HOW THE UNITED STATES PROTECTED JAPANESE WAR CRIMINALS AND FACILITATED JAPAN'S DENIAL OF WAR GUILT AND WAR CRIMES"

There is no wards of "Crimes against Humanity" which could be seen at Nuremberg. Compare it with"Nuremberg Trials" on wikipedia.

[CloeBuckingham]

You talk about manners, then you call me a liar, and you ask me to mail you links, when you have friends lock on.

Japan was not lucky. Japan decided to modernise. Korea decided not to modernise. Your yangban were useless exploiters of their people, totally lazy and slothful.

But somehow you never blame the yangban for holding Korea back. And you never blame Mao for helping Kim Il Sung.

[CloeBuckingham]

When 300,000 Chinese troops assisted North Korea, that is not creating a problem? China divided your country. You are so ignorant!

[CloeBuckingham]

Whatever Japan took from Korea is tiny compared to the railroads, roads, ports, harbours, power plants, schools, and hospitals built by Japan.

[CloeBuckingham]

I cannot post links to video. And I cannot send you mail because you have "friends lock."

[CloeBuckingham]

I noticed that you hid your racist favourites.

And your background is one of the 143 fake photos of Nanjing.

All the photos were shown to be fakes. Japanese wearing Chinese peasant clothing, shadows going in different directions. Fake.

[CloeBuckingham]

Some day you will discover that everything you know is a lie.

[CloeBuckingham]

You don't know what "ad hominem" means. It is attacking the person rather than the argument.

The real issue is not what Japan did. Japanese people today are not responsible. The militarists seized power through assassination, not through votes. And everyone responsible for the decisions made during and before WWII is now dead.

The real issue is why do people care so much about Japan's "crimes" 65 years ago, which we cannot change, and not China and North Korea's crimes now, which we can change

[2008venom]

Why Koreans did not fight against western invasion ? Why they didn't try to modernize their country by themselves ?

[2008venom]

There was no Japanese war criminals accused for Crimes against Humanity.

Don't believe wikipedia 100%, as it is an example of propaganda.

[2008venom]

Comfort women: Just prostitutes for money.

Subject to draft: It was national duties to be soldiers and workers.

Change to japanese names: It was free.

Resistance were crushed: There was no big riot, mutiny, or rebellion in Korea after 1919.

Korean language and food were forbidden: Japan never prohibited them.

Historical buildings: Korean destroyed more.

[2008venom]

We are not ignoring history. We are trying to correct fake propagandas by Chinese and Koreans.

It makes Chinese and Korean embarassed...that's why they hate us.

[2008venom]

Japan was also using isolationism.

But US Navy visited in 1853 and forced Japan to open the door, with threatening by warships.

Then Japanese started to learning modern technologies. Why China and Korea didn't ?

[CloeBuckingham]

200,000 Japanese died from diseases brought by the Americans. The Americans were always looking for profit in Japan, but the consequences were not always good for the Japanese.

[2008venom]

>They had the guns to stop Russia

Then why Korea didn't have guns of their own in those days ? Why South Korea has a big military now ?

It is because, they have admitted that poor armament of Korea in 19th century was wrong policy isn't it ?

[2008venom]

Japanese have learned modern tecnologies from western powers eagerly. China and Korea were just sleeping in 19th century. That is the difference, not just by luck.

[CloeBuckingham]

The Korean language and food were never forbidden. 99% of people were illiterate. Japan brought teachers. Lessons were in Korean and Japanese. The previous government suppressed Hangul. Japanese teachers taught Hangul. Only during the height of the war was Korean not taught owing to a labour shortage for obvious reasons.

Koreans destroyed historical buildings, like where the Korean King bowed to the Chinese Ambassador.

[CloeBuckingham]

South Koreans were not forced to change their names, and many famous South Koreans did not change their names. 20% of South Koreans did not change their names. Che Yonhi never changed her name. She was a superstar dancer.

Comfort women? They admitted to being prostitutes working for private agents. They changed their stories when the lawyers told them they could get money from Japan by changing their stories.

Draft? That's normal in war.

Resistance crushed? It happens everywhere!

[CloeBuckingham]

If you think teaching Korean children Hangul, which had been forbidden under the yangban, is colonialisation, I think you're wrong.

[CloeBuckingham]

Japan granted property rights to the majority of Koreans. Land ownership increased during the Japanese period. Before it, the 1% who were yangban oppressed the 99% who were farmers.

[CloeBuckingham]

You like to quote wikipedia, but anyone can write it. I could change it right now.

[CloeBuckingham]

I am not advocating Japan during WWII. I oppose the militarists who rose to power by assassination.

What I am advocating is a more balanced view of Japan's role in Korea. Japan has invested massively in Korea from 1910 to the present. The Korean people have benefitted from that.

[2008venom]

>Japan only want their interest in korea

Sure, I am not insisting that Japan was an angel. But it is not evil as Koreans insist.

idol warship ? Tell it to North Korean people.

[CloeBuckingham]

You can find all kinds of information on the Internet. Unfortunately, most of it is motivate by the passion of the writer, not by any connection to truth.

[CloeBuckingham]

The majority of Koreans were starving in the 1800s. That was a fact. Life expectancy was only 35. The situation in Korea dramatically improved. That is why the birthrate increased from negative to positive. Life expectancy was short, yes, but it increased to 47.

You seem to make all your comparisons from modern-day Korea. Your comparisons should start with Korea in 1910.

Can you explain why Japan brought back Hangul? Why Japan built 5,000 schools, when there were only 100 before 1910?

[2008venom]

At the begginingt , allied intended to judge A)Crimes against Peace, B)Ordinary war crimes, and C)Crimes against Humanity at Tokyo Trials.

But through the trial, prosecutors realized that Japan did not commit holocaust like as Nazis.

(to be continued)

[2008venom]

Finally Japanese war criminals were sentenced for A)Crimes against Peace, B)Ordering ordinary war crimes, and C)Carrying out ordingary war crimes.

wikipedia description is hiding that fact.

There was NO Japanese war criminal accused for Crimes against Humanity, because Japanese never planned extermination of a nation like as Nazis.

[CloeBuckingham]

You are calling me a liars. Why do you need to resort to insults? If I said something in particular that was not true, you should state what it is and give evidence to the contrary.

It seems that your response is based mainly on emotion, not fact. But who influenced your feelings?

There are accusations that Japanese history textbooks do not give the whole truth in detail. But North and South Korean history textbooks are a kind of fiction, written by their governments.

[2008venom]

60 <- India

13 <- Australia

13 <- Japan

10 <- Turkey

Total GBP 96 million

You can see almost half of total payment of UK was earned from India

[2008venom]

In 1910, UK could earn more than 60 million pounds of money from India.

It is the "colonization".

Japan could not earn such money from Korea, and rather spent big money there.

Such charity cannot be called as "colonization".

[2008venom]

massive starvation?

Do you mean Korean rice crops have been sent to Japan ? A rice merchant, Lee Byung Chul earned big money by sending Korean rice to Japan.

He established the base of Samsung group by that money. Do you insist Samsung is a traitor company ?

[2008venom]

Nazi war criminals accused for A)Crimes against Peace (invasion), B)Ordinary war crimes, and C)Crimes against Humanity (Holocaust).

Japanese war criminals accused for A)Crimes against Peace, B)Ordering ordinary war crimes, and C)Carrying out ordingary war crimes.

There was NO Japanese war criminal accused for Crimes against Humanity, because Japanese never planned extermination of a nation like as Nazis.

Nazi and Imperial Japan were totally different.

[CloeBuckingham]

What is your source? I gave independent sources.

If Japan caused so much starvation, it is odd that literacy and life expectancy increased. It is odd that Koreans served in the Diet, even as representatives from Tokyo.

Perhaps you are focused only during the last years of WWII.

[CloeBuckingham]

Give evidence and links! At least I don't use "friends lock."

[CloeBuckingham]

How can I send you links, when you have friends lock enabled, smarty? LOL!

You can download this book for free:

Corea: The Hermit Nation by William Elliot Griffis

Western explorers describe the poverty and slavery of Korea before Japan brought liberation.

[CloeBuckingham]

It's a kind of nonsense. The life expectancy of starving people does not increase. Koreans were given huge farms in Manchukuo (Manchuria). Don't drink the Koo-lAid.

[timpatjoe]

the Japanese based there colonial take over of Korea on the british model for Ireland ,the sent diplomats to London to study the british colonisation of Ireland

[CloeBuckingham]

Japanese studied many, many countries, especially the USA and Prussia, and Japanese law is based on Pendecten law. To study and to adopt are two different things.

Japan's policy toward Korea was one of assimilation, not colonialisation. Koreans served in the Diet, even as Diet representatives for Tokyo, and as Generals.

Japan educated Koreans in Hangul, which had previously been denied them by the yangban, except for the height of WWII, when there was a labour shortage for obvious reasons.

[CloeBuckingham]

English colonialism of Ireland caused starvation.

Japanese co-prosperity with Korea caused a massive increase in life expectancy, population, literacy, and prosperity.

There is no comparison, except that both England and Japan were tough.

[Waenom]

Imperial Japan was notoriously responsible for mostly provoking communism to conquer China and North Korea, Vietnam, the creation of USSR, and so on... Remember Imjin War, Russo-Japanese War, Sino-Japn war, World War II, etc...What is the problem with you Japanese? Doesn't your nation acknowledge all of its war crimes in the past? Are you guys that insecure?

[CloeBuckingham]

Are you saying when Japan defeated Russia, they did it to spread communism? That is like saying the USA defeated Japan to cause Manchuria to become communist.

Let's remember in 1905 European countries had colonies, but their policies were racist, and they never consider assimilation. Japan's policy to Taiwan and Korea is one of assimilation. Koreans served as generals and as ministers in the Diet.

Did you see an Ethiopian in the Italian Parliament? A Tibetan in the China's Central Committee?

[Waenom]

This video is really outdated. If Japanese like you continue to trust this professor, then you are all insane.

[qltbsn]

Japan's distortion of history, and Asia are trying to legalize the colonial war.

It is a very bad image of Japan is the habit of packing.

[CloeBuckingham]

The speaker is a Korean man who is a professor at Kaya University in South Korea. He is not Japanese.

[qltbsn]

sorry. I was mistaken.

[qltbsn]

Prostitution is illegal in Korea since ancient times.Are you Japanese?

Japan's war crimes, Do not try to make it lawful.Japan is a war criminal country.

[CloeBuckingham]

The South Korean government encouraged prostitution. They provided English lessons to prostitutes and gave them tips. This is not about the law. The law was not taken seriously.

[CloeBuckingham]

The issue of Unit 731 concerns China, not Korea.

The so-called "Royal Blood" were the ones killing intellectuals in Korea and killing authors of books written in Hangul. They were oppressing the 99% of Koreans who were not yangban and who were illiterate.

The New History Book is only used in 0.039% of Japanese schools. It's a red herring. The point is that anyone in Japan is free to write a history book, but history books in Korea are government issued propaganda.

[yupkijijon]

Japan may have brought westernization to Korea, but that fact CANNOT be the excuse to take over Korea's government with force, rape millions, hold inhumane scientific experiments (such as freezing groups of people alive to see how long it takes takes for them to lose consciousness), burn our books, massacre all the korean royal bloods, force them to fight in the war for Japan, corrupt history by changing the school history curriculum, abduct millions of women for Japanese soldier's satisfaction.

[CloeBuckingham]

The claim of "raping millions" is absurd and unjustified. The number of claims by former "comfort women" never reached even 100, and those claims were made after lawyers advised the women on how to change their stories. The rape of millions is not something so easy to hide as you make it sound.

Also, the South Korea government pimped Korean women to American GIs, providing advice and English lessons. Prostitution was legal in South Korea until recently.