The Amazing Julio

[SeaCadetPR09]

this robot reminds me of The Sims.

[TheEruditepolymath]

i, for one, welcome the coming robot overlords

[siciliano29]

This is a bit misleading.. that's a human's voice singing, not a robot's. Our robotic speech synthesis hasn't come that far along yet.... unfortunately most robots STILL sound horribly, well, robotic. =\

[YourFuture2012]

fake no spirit I don't feel anything

You misleaded people

Destructive behaviour will doom you

you'l see

[w0r1dpeace]

...

[fleshtheworld]

I love the dark background and creepy directing they did with this. The artist appear to have purposely made Julio look very unhuman and creepy. I hope his illuminated brother Jesus will be less creepy... They should have added a part where cries and the background noise starts to fade away and hes all alone crying in the silent dark and the camera slowly pulls away to show his incomplete robot body with no skin.

My nightmares cannot compare.

[isokessu]

those guys should take that robot in middle of some big city, give some glasses to himor something :D and see that do peoples even know that it's robot

[SuperKiara]

ahah..it's amazing though:)

[stanum88]

*LOLs*

[Branigan4ever]

This robot isn't as advanced or life-like as the Japanese models online. His gestures are too exaggerated and he just looks odd.

[w0r1dpeace]

agree

[Firedda]

However, his conversational abilities go far beyond caned replied for preprogrammed questions. The Japanese robots may look better, but if you watch them for too long, they start to look foolish, saying the same thing over and over. :)

(By the way, Jules is capable of subtle facial expressions as well. The frubber used in his face is also actually better than that of the Japanese robots, requiring less power to form an expression.)

I agree, though, that he does look odd in this video. :\

[isokessu]

Awesome robot!!

[frozenblue542]

ARGH BIG WORDS! *holds head* STOP IT! STOP IIIIITTTT!!! AAHHGGGG!!!!!!!!!(btw this scares the shit outta me :(

[w0r1dpeace]

lolwtf

[SuperiorMind]

AmaZing!

[patternsinchaos]

is that David Byrne's voice?

[w0r1dpeace]

aye

[drschnaggels]

Im a little startled that this creation just surpassed CGI reality immitations. I would have thought it would be the other way around. Apparently we need reality first to reflect it virtually. Are we even capable of creating fractal shapes we havent sensed yet in reality ? IS that the meaning of machinery to take over what we cant achieve, now physically soon spiritaly?

[w0r1dpeace]

Like I said in some comments below, Swen. He's using antiquated actuation technology which is why the motion is so herky-jerky.

[drschnaggels]

I said surpassed. I dont think its herky jerky at all. Final Fantasy is worse.

[w0r1dpeace]

Sorry I misread you .. I'm busily trying to give the Quinninites their hope back.

Good question about the sensation as requisite for the expression ... I wonder what things I have yet to be influenced by really. I mean .. there are certain things I would wish to avoid altogether ... such as nuclear holocaust.

The future is bright and full of hope and at the same time ominous and full of uncertainty.

Creating a machine to model the universe ... universes within universes.

[megamandapop]

before reading the description i thought it was CG... I was like "eh..." but realizing it's a robot now, it's pretty neat. his eyelids look weird to me though.

robots are simply puppets with programs. yes, movies and literature tell us they'll be the death of us, but we'll probably destroy the earth ourselves before that happens.

[w0r1dpeace]

Here's hoping we destroy nothing ...

[Midnightplat]

And soon Wor1dpeace will realize what he is, and his programming's imperative. Do it! Fury commands you!

[w0r1dpeace]

heh

[Fourdawgs]

It's kinda scary.

[w0r1dpeace]

Yes it is ... especially when you don't look directly at it.

[pennilesscripple]

and we need this...because?

[CheeezMaster]

we can?

[pennilesscripple]

perhaps we (actually, 'they,' as i would not have anything to do with such a project) might *make* it because they can...but why do we *need* it?

[w0r1dpeace]

Good question.

[pennilesscripple]

okay another question

why did you post this?

why does this interest you?

what is your take on it?

[w0r1dpeace]

I posted this because I have an interest in robotics and this particular droid was made by David Hanson of Hanson Robotics who made the Philip K. Dick android whose head went missing mysteriously approximately 1-2 years ago on a flight from Vegas to California.

I think this technology is interesting ... Hanson does great work and has all but replicated (at least visually) the texture and elasticity of human flesh ... but the actuation he is using to animate the droids has been eclipsed.

[pennilesscripple]

what is interesting about it?

are you aware of the many-fold harm it does/will do?

don't even want to think about how toxic manufacturing that 'flesh' is

many idiots will want one, which multiplies the harm exponentially

they just reported that flat screen tvs have a greenhouse gas that is 17000 times more potent than carbon

industrial technology is killing us, physically, mentally, socially, and spiritually

do we not already have enough alienation and isolation without 'robot friends'?

[w0r1dpeace]

Good counterpoints. Every one of them. I resonate with your concerns.

Justify your use of the computer you're on though.

One thing is for certain: we need a hard change in the way we do business day to day.

Revolutionary change upward, higher, to more ecologically-conscious ways of doing things.

What can be done now, at this moment, in order to help?

Draw attention to the concerns you've stated, I think.

[pennilesscripple]

i'm trapped in civilization, trapped into using a computer--i'd much prefer real communication, real community, to online communication and online community, but those things--our birthright--have been stolen from us. i would give it all up today to save the tigers, bears, bees, bats, fish, and birds.

[w0r1dpeace]

This is a difficult balance.

I see you spiraling into a negative nihilistic "everything is fucked" black hole of hopelessness.

I sense your depression and respect the despair ... let me tell you something ... business as usual is done.

We need a hard turn now towards total reassessment and transformation.

[pennilesscripple]

i don't know where you get depression, despair, nihilism, and hopelessness from what i said

the end of civilization and its technologies of destruction will happen sooner or later--the sooner it happens, the better for all concerned

[w0r1dpeace]

You're definitely losing it over this android, PC.

Technologies of destruction ... what about the technologies of CONSTRUCTION?

Get over yourself. Humans are not the be all end all. Make room.

[pennilesscripple]

i see the computer as a weapon i'd rather not use to defend the earth against civilization, just as the native americans used the white man's guns

what can be done right now, in order to help?

don't encourage technotopian delusions, for one

tell the truth for another

every technology has very real, measurable, social, psychological, and environmental consequences

we need to do *no* business day to day

[w0r1dpeace]

You don't want to defend Earth?

Technotopian delusions? Qualify that. The delicate balance is this: we don't know whether universe is deterministic or if we have free will.

Humans have great ego.

It fluctuates. Watch the Carlin skit about plastic.

Tell the truth ... pretty basic here but are you implying that I am not? Are you depressed and using this as a means to vent?

Build robots from recycled and reclaimed materials.

Nothing is fucked here, but there IS an imperative.

[pennilesscripple]

see ozjthomas's video 'technotopia' for starters, or better yet read john zerzan or jerry mander on technolgy

technotopian delusions begin with the belief that industrial technology, which has almost destroyed us, will somehow deliver us. they're fed by science fiction and the media, big time. 'just one more dose of technology & everything will be fine....'

[pennilesscripple]

recycling harms the environment. we don't *need* robots. you never answered my first question. why do we *need* them? do we need another fucking toy? we need clean water, clean air, healthy food, healthy community.

how do you reconcile rasta with your fetish for technology? ipods are not ital.

[zzz33333]

fuck Carlin's plastic skit.

fuck plastic. fuck these robots.

PC is not depressed. she just wants freedom, just like me.

[w0r1dpeace]

You guys are off your respective rockers.

I'm with the universe.

Good luck.

[w0r1dpeace]

Recycling harms the environment.

Have you lost it?

You're on a fucking toy. Throw your fucking computer away. Don't drive a car ... go into the woods and make your way.

Hypocrite.

How do I reconcile rasta with technology? Easy sister ... the androids don't wanna hurt nobody.

LEAVE IT.

[pennilesscripple]

i made it clear earlier that all technologies have measurable social, environmental, and cultural consequences--you seemed to agree before you lost it and decided i was crazy

yes recycling harms the environment. melting plastic produces toxins just like producing plastic does. not to mention people don't recycle in the real world (but they do in technotopia)

just because you can't see the linkages, doesn't mean they aren't there. robots do & will do a lot of harm. i'm sorry you can't see that.

[w0r1dpeace]

Have you ever done manual or menial labor? Do you understand how many bodies lives can be improved and preserved by using robots to do that kind of work?

We are part of a larger network. I can understand your sentiment but I must tell you that we have to move forward.

In which direction? It's our choice ... but I choose the better way.

You stand on air, sister. It's pretty impressive :)

[pennilesscripple]

i am firmly on the earth and i know very well what it is to do menial labor.

you, however, are lost in the clouds if you think that technology, the very leviathan which has brought us to the brink of exterminating all life on this earth i sit upon, will deliver us

[w0r1dpeace]

The very leviathan that has brought us vaccinations, satellite technology to let us know we're fucking up, and the fucking computer you're typing on and the motherfucking ROOF YOU'RE LIVING UNDER ...

I'm starting to get angry. Why are you so one-sided with this?

[pennilesscripple]

what is making you angry? if i'm crazy, why be angry? if i'm wrong, why be angry?

this whole culture is one sided, with its worship of the machine that is destroying us. i don't care about the computer. i don't care about the roof, or the shoes, or the toilets, or the vaccines. none of that matters. what matters is life.

i want my people to get their lives back. i want the animals and birds and fish and frogs to get their lives back. you're so entranced you don't even see what we've lost.

[w0r1dpeace]

I love how you so furiously reaffirm the fact that we have free will.

What's making me angry is your hypocrisy. Get off the computer. Leave civilization.

There are uncivilized parts of this planet still.

Where does the alienation come from? That's the f'n question. What makes you think the planet doesn't have everything under control?

Don't go so far with that free-will stuff ... maintain your humility in the face of entities larger and more complex than you.

[pennilesscripple]

industrial technology accelerates the harm that perpetual economic 'growth' does to the planet. industrial technology has very real negative environmental, social, and psychological impacts. always. it has to. it is based on violence.

[w0r1dpeace]

Okay I think we're beginning to round in on exactly who it is we have beef with.

I want this planet to continue on, healthily, forever.

The approach has to be two-fold though ... one from the top down (massive multinational corporations adopting sensible production policies ...) -- and people being wise to what they spend money on.

Are you a vegetarian?

[pennilesscripple]

corporations will do what they always do, which is amass wealth for the few by feeding off the souls (human and non-human) of the many

people will always be wise and foolish--you cannot make everyone wise as a steady state

if you truly want this planet to continue on healthily forever, then you will do your best in your lifetime to end civilization

[w0r1dpeace]

Your anticivilizationism is very infuriating considering the fact that you strawman and scapegoat CIVILIZATION.

CIVILIZATION IS LIFE. It is the highest and most complex organization and expression of LIFE on the planet.

Ants have civilizations ... everything that lives and breathes and drinks water has CIVILIZATION.

Any time you see more than 1 house ... that's a civilization.

The Earth is one gigantic interwoven coexistent CIVILIZATION. It's not a human-only phenomena.

My civ = universe.

[drschnaggels]

i dont question CIVILIZATION, allthough i think we should question this CIVILIZATION. I think CIVILIZATION can adapt many forms, it should be possible for a CIVILIZATION to exist in harmony with its uncivilized enviorment without the civilized beeing unfree or caged within it, or is that a paradox ?

[pennilesscripple]

the kind of work that robots do does not need to be done. robots are used and are being used to do two things: destroy life and accelerate production. they, like all industrial technology, serve war and commerce. they take humans deeper into fragmentation, isolation, and alienation, and further away from genuine life. as dan todd says, 'there are no wonders of technology--only consolations prized by the pathetic.'

[w0r1dpeace]

Tell that to the immigrant who cleans your toilets and sews your shoes.

Having robots do this shit will leave more people more time to actually focus on assisting the world substantively.

What's the malfunction?

Are you against all machines?

[pennilesscripple]

that immigrant, if 'liberated' from sewing shoes by machines, will be enslaved in some other way, not freed

if technology gives us more time

then why are people working 60 hour weeks?

where is the delivery of this long-held false promise?

if you are so fascinated by industrial technology, then you might do well to read some critiques of it, by people like john zerzan and jerry mander, instead of swallowing the lies of the dominant culture

open your eyes

the world doesn't need 'assisting'

[w0r1dpeace]

Then why are you proselytizing? The world doesn't need assisting then please refrain from saying that it is in bad shape.

You're solipsistic to the point where you think what you do, or any of us does actually makes a difference and then you turn 180° and say that none of it matters. That "the world doesn't need assisting."

You have good points. Business as usual is unacceptable. We need new and better ways.

[pennilesscripple]

humans do not need mechanical assistance to live any more than deer do. certain humans do, however, need to enslave people and machines to serve profit and production, not life.

robots = babylon

worship the gods of technology if that suits you

but don't call yourself rasta

[w0r1dpeace]

You're crazy. Call me 6173356457

[drschnaggels]

What about old and disabled people ? You do know Hawkins needs a computer to even talk right ?

[w0r1dpeace]

That makes total sense to me.

[w0r1dpeace]

Good show. I sought clarification on where she drew the line and was going to put forth dialysis and the countless human beings who rely on EKG machines, MRI, X-ray to diagnose disease and so on ...

Not to mention respirators!

But she does have a good point. No respirators = no vader ;)

[w0r1dpeace]

You, my friend, are a Luddite.

Have you ever heard of the smallpox vaccine?

WTFU.

[w0r1dpeace]

Don't look directly at the android.

[dubaiedge]

cannot *imagine* running into that in a dark alley

[w0r1dpeace]

heh

[IChoseTheRedPill]

amazing

[w0r1dpeace]

HansonRobotics ... the mystery of the missing PKD android head continues ...

[GuiltySpark347]

cool

[w0r1dpeace]

Don't look directly at the android ;)

[bigevasive]

Incredible!

[w0r1dpeace]

Yeah, pretty crazy stuff. MIT is working on these actuators now that produce motion nearly indistinguishable from human muscular motion.

[AppleStar7582]

creepy lil' bugger.

[w0r1dpeace]

imagine him washing your dishes.

[DKW2088]

kick his ass.

[w0r1dpeace]

hmmmm

[zzz33333]

fuck that

[w0r1dpeace]

the androids are coming.